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I'm looking for a kernel and custom rom that give me a perfect balance between battery life and performance on my Nexus 6. Thanks for the help.
Bliss pop and elementalx
I use BrokenOS(personal preference, mainly for UI) and Sensei kernel for battery. Its extremely customizable and upstreams the best features and optimizations from other kernels like elementalx and Franco and the likes. He releases it a few days after (or day of) and its extremely customizable. I've used it since release 5. He's currently on release 34
BlissPop and Franco Kernel :good:
I notice significant battery improvement with ElementalX kernel over stock kernel.
first off, kernels do not give you better battery. its a huge misconception. a kernel can help you better your battery, but will not improve your battery. you can get the same improvements by messing with your cpu yourself. battery life is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what kinds of apps you install, and ver much the quality if your phone/data signal. thats it. there is no magic pill(kernel) that you can take to improve your battery life. if you want better battery life, keep away from terribly written apps, and apps that drain your phones resources.
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first off, kernels do not give you better battery. its a huge misconception. a kernel can help you better your battery, but will not improve your battery. you can get the same improvements by messing with your cpu yourself. battery life is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what kinds of apps you install, and ver much the quality if your phone/data signal. thats it. there is no magic pill(kernel) that you can take to improve your battery life. if you want better battery life, keep away from terribly written apps, and apps that drain your phones resources.
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Even then some kernels have customizations and optimizations to help lengthen the battery life. For example different CPU govorners and reduce unneeded clock speed overhead and under clocking can help too with the help of a custom kernel. So yes, poorly written apps and sensors that hog power tend to be the majority of power loss, I still think that the kernels introduce a bit of help too
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Slim + ElemantalX
samdroid24 said:
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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Each phone is different but that really has nothing to do with battery life, except that maybe some CPU's can undervolt more. I'm not sure anyone has given this "bullcrap" answer you eluded to.
samdroid24 said:
That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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I've tried most of the roms and kernels and have always gone back to BlissPop and either Lean or Francos. BlissPop for the features and Lean/Franco for the battery life. I would consider myself a moderate to heavy user and get between 4 - 5 hours of sot, but more important to me, I start my day at 5am and shutdown around 10:30 - 11:00 pm and I generally have 35% - 40% or so left. Of course your milage may vary, I also greenify what I can, but I refuse to lose any features i use, why have a fantastic phone and cripple it. I generally don't change any of the kernels, except maybe set it to conservative, I've had issues in the past undervolting, but thats just me. For the slight battery savings I don't find it does that much. Again, my opinion.
Just take a nandroid of where you are and try some combinations. Give it a few days to settle in. Repeat until your happy with the combination.
zephiK said:
Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
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Will most definitely flash Chroma... Looks like one of the best designed ROMs.. Will flash it either tonight or tomorrow morning... And your name seems familiar from the numerous pages I've went through on Franco's Kernel lol. Thx :laugh:
how many hour is stay on the stock ROM ?
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
using the rom that i use, and kernel, and the way i set up my cpu, i see between 5.5 and 7 hours sot. which rom and kernel? try them all out, find your best rom/kernel.
dan04103 said:
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
zephiK said:
Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I am on Terminus currently with Franco Kernel undervolted all frequencies @-50 which is 100% stable in my case. -75 crashes on games and/or benchmarks. My Snapdragon has a PVS 5 binning.
samdroid24 said:
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
jiv101 said:
Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
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Nope, I personally don't find the feature useful.
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Right now I'm on validus ROM with Franco kernel. I only changed the max clock in Franco kernel down to 2.2ghz. Right now I'm at almost 36 hours on time and 4 hours and 40 minutes sot
zephiK said:
I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Yup, flashed the 1/24 build last night
Hey all. Which ROM, kernel, and governor do you recommend I use on my N6? There are so many options that I figured I'd ask. Currently running Benzo ROM and the kernel it came with. Thanks!
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel.* What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life".* This is actually wrong.* Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel.* What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life".* This is actually wrong.* Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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this. and its very well said at that.
Thanks for the reply root.... However, nowhere did I ask what the "best" ROM is, I totally disagree that the stability will be equivalent because there are AOSP ROMs out there that are all in alpha for 5.1, as well as stock ROMs that may have certain rather experimental things, with nightlies being released. I guess the goal of my query was to find out what people have set some of their variables to (ROM, settings, kernel, kernel settings) to get better battery life with minimal performance drop.
YevOmega said:
nowhere did I ask what the "best" ROM is
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Its my generic answer. Copy and paste. But you asked for recommendations and that gets the same answer because other than semantics, there's no difference in the question.
YevOmega said:
I totally disagree that the stability will be equivalent because there are AOSP ROMs out there that are all in alpha for 5.1, as well as stock ROMs that may have certain rather experimental things, with nightlies being released
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That's you're prerogative but I'm not really talking about feature sets. That aspect of the answer is more generic, usually for people coming from HTC or Samsung where "camera sux" because the binaries were never released.
YevOmega said:
I guess the goal of my query was to find out what people have set some of their variables to (ROM, settings, kernel, kernel settings) to get better battery life with minimal performance drop.
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Performance uses power, which uses battery. There is no way to get more battery life back than the amount of performance you're willing to sacrifice. Its a direct correlation.
I can tell you my settings, but they're not magic. Everything I gain in battery life, I lose in performance.
Edit. I think a good thing to do would be to pick a kernel based on features, then speak to users of that kernel to see how they set it up
@YevOmega, please check post #5 of the stickied Q&A thread for details on this question.
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YevOmega said:
Hey all. Which ROM, kernel, and governor do you recommend I use on my N6? There are so many options that I figured I'd ask. Currently running Benzo ROM and the kernel it came with. Thanks!
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The answer depends on how many ROM/kernel/governor combinations there, because that is how many answers you are likely to get. Stock based are usually the most stable, and everything is likely to work the way its's supposed to while CM/AOSP ROMs will have more cusomization and tweaks but are often troubled by instability or things that are broken. Me, I'm on Stock rooted 5.1 for now, until I flash something else. What is it that's important to you when it comes to the ROM?
I want it to be crisp most importantly, but it's nice to have things like PIE. Minimal bloatware, because yes there are still some system apps that I don't want but can't uninstall without jumping through hoops.
rootSU said:
Its my generic answer. Copy and paste. But you asked for recommendations and that gets the same answer because other than semantics, there's no difference in the question.
That's you're prerogative but I'm not really talking about feature sets. That aspect of the answer is more generic, usually for people coming from HTC or Samsung where "camera sux" because the binaries were never released.
Performance uses power, which uses battery. There is no way to get more battery life back than the amount of performance you're willing to sacrifice. Its a direct correlation.
I can tell you my settings, but they're not magic. Everything I gain in battery life, I lose in performance.
Edit. I think a good thing to do would be to pick a kernel based on features, then speak to users of that kernel to see how they set it up
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Again, please read my statement. I understand that I can't just get better battery life out of thin air. I said minimal performance loss, not none. There is a variety of optimizations and my hope is that there are combinations that will improve my battery life without compromising performance too much.
YevOmega said:
Again, please read my statement. I understand that I can't just get better battery life out of thin air. I said minimal performance loss, not none. There is a variety of optimizations and my hope is that there are combinations that will improve my battery life without compromising performance too much.
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You've misinterpreted what I've said. There is no minimal. Its loss or its not. Its an direct correlation. If you want to save x battery you must sacrifice y performance. There's no magic, smaller z performance that still gets you x battery.
I didn't say you wanted to get battery out of thin air (perhaps you need to read my statement). I'm saying you want to get battery out of medium air, but I'm telling you that it only comes out of thick air.
Let me try something else.
To increase battery by 6, you must decrease performance by 6. There is no magic setting that will allow you to get 6 battery out of 3 performance. If you only want to sacrifice 3 performance, you'll only get 3 battery.
Break it down. What uses battery most?
-Screen
-Radio
-CPU
So forgetting screen and radio which are out of the scope of this thread, let's look at CPU.
CPU voltage is controlled by the kernel. The kernel has a table that has a predetermined amount of voltage for every clock cycle step. As you can see here.
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So how you save power on CPU is to either prevent certain CPU frequency being used, limit the time it is being used for or try to not need that frequency. This will save 6 battery, but will lose 6 performance because in each case that battery is being saved, the CPU frequency is not being used. Its a relative battery to performance ratio.
So I can list all the kernel settings that will save you battery, but they all have an equal performance hit - which is what I'm trying to explain.
Alright thanks. Go for it. I have vindicator kernel, as a reminder, so if you don't mind listing some settings, that would be nice ?. Thanks!
YevOmega said:
Alright thanks. Go for it. I have vindicator kernel, as a reminder, so if you don't mind listing some settings, that would be nice ?. Thanks!
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I use elementalx, but here's some things I like to do.
1 set up threshold higher (99) CPU ramps up at 99% load
2 hot plugging set to 2 cores offline when not in use
3 turn off all touch boosts
rootSU said:
I use elementalx, but here's some things I like to do.
1 set up threshold higher (99) CPU ramps up at 99% load
2 hot plugging set to 2 cores offline when not in use
3 turn off all touch boosts
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How much SOT do you get, and what carrier are you on?
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How much SOT do you get, and what carrier are you on?
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It depends. At home, I can get 6 or maybe 7. On a work day, perhaps 4 or rarely 5.
I live in the UK so not sure the Carrier matters.
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How much SOT do you get, and what carrier are you on?
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rootSU said:
It depends. At home, I can get 6 or maybe 7. On a work day, perhaps 4 or rarely 5.
I live in the UK so not sure the Carrier matters.
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Carrier only matters if you are comparing signal strength in regards to the same bands. Kernels can also allow you to undervolt if you forgot, there are other things we can do such as drop voltage on certain parts of the device, though this can cause instability.
Optimizations on ROM and kernel side can reduce the overhead on the CPU and we can also increase throughput on several aspects of the device such as memory and BUS. Other things that "may" increase battery life could be removing code for rotational storage and using flash based alternatives/optimizing it for non-rotational storage.
Thanks. And yeah, I know why carrier matters
Hey XDA,
my Z3 broke and my insurance gave me 500€ to get a new phone so i got the Nexus 6 32GB Blue for 490 € at my workplace.
Before my Z3 i had many different Phones like the S5, LG G3, NEXUS 5, HTC ONE m7 and more
Well what mostly use me device for is communication, A LOT (LOT LOT³) OF Fn READING (Manga and Reddit Sync) and hearing my music on the way to school/work/whatever .
I am a experienced user with roms and flashing but with this new device i just want to flash something daily driver friendly but feature heavy rom and a good battery conserving kernel
So far ive looked around for some roms available here and already choosen the
CHROMA Rom because it seems to be popular here (Not sure why ?!) (What is "Layers" ?)
and the Vindicator Kernel because it looks very promising (Not sure if its the case tho) and it has a lot of features (for a kernel..)
So what do you guys use and show me some screens of your themes becuase i like the possibilty to use the cm theme engine
Thanks
RainbowSix
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
dex2grigg said:
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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What bugs may i encounter ?
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
danarama said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
rainbowsixpro1 said:
Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
danarama said:
No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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Well i am thinking to go battery but not 100%. but more like 80%
Problem is i dont know what the apps need to work fluid (or not?)
With recommendation i meant something like this
"AWESOME DUDE, I HAVE A NEXUS 6 WITH ROM X AND KERNEL X AND USE IT FOR DD AND LOTS READING
ITS WORKING LIKE A CHARM NEVER hv HAPPIER BEFORE BECAUSE THIS DOES THAT AND THAT DOES THIS"
sounds stupid, i know but maybe someone else using the N6 is in the same scenario as i am.
Got some good news 3 hrs from now i will hold a fresh Nexus 6 in my handy and now someone is offering me a GS6 32GBlack for exchange xD
GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT earlier but happy about this new awesome toy to play with
( this post is not only for me, it's for all the people who are looking for a good custom kernel but are indecided on it).
I know there are a lot of custom kernel for Op3T... I want to know which are the best kernel for battery and stability. So please can everyone that are using a custom kernel leave a feedback on what custom kernel are using and what is the time on screen with it? (Maybe also the rom in use)
Thanks everyone
Blu_spark all the way and his TWRP.
Ivanprince99 said:
I want to know which are the best kernel for battery and stability
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There is no such thing. Battery life and stability vary drastically from one user to another depending on settings, apps, how you use your phone, local cell reception, etc.. Lots of variables determine battery and stability, and kernel is just one small part of that. You're expecting folks to just give you a "silver bullet" response, one kernel that will solve all your problems. It simply doesn't work that way.
Stock kernel of Freedom OS and made own profiles with Kernel Adiutor. Tried many custom kernels, but this looks best combination for ME.
For battery profile just drop about 50% CPUs and GPU max clocks.