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Snapdragon Themral Throttling [Discussion]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
This articles above shows that you don't always get what you paid for when you buy the newest bleeding edge tech. It's about the the thermal throttling in the Snapdragon 800 series SoC's. The good ones the bad ones and it def hows a pattern of things being worse off during the beginning of a number in the in the "x" placement ----> 8x0.
Seems like big buyers are being experimented with a bit, tisk, tisk.
Now let's discuss

I would like to see this test redone with all SoCs undervolted as far as they will go.

I just want to add 2 things to this discussion:
1) Every mobile device will throttle at some point. This is the only way the SoC is able to manage its temperatures in a device that has zero active cooling. Either the user stops using the phone and it cools down or they continue using it and it will throttle.
2) It is the phone manufacturer's responsibility to design a phone and chassis that can support the thermal requirements of the SoC they have chosen for their device. If a phone over heats or the SoC is so throttled that it can never reach it's maximum clock speed (such as the Snapdragon 810 in the HTC M9) then the phone was designed poorly (based on the required specifications) and they should have chosen a lower power SoC.

I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.

Damn it Qua!comm instead of jamming reference cores in to chips get cracking optimizing drivers to get more performance out of existing products. The Adreno driver overhead is embrassing.

pgptheoriginal said:
I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.
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The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.

thermal throttle, whats that?? ive disabled thermal throttle on every nexus thats ever had it, since the n4 that's the n4, n5, and now n6. but the n6 is the best at not getting hot. as i cant get it over 82C ever.

The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
Sent from my Nexus 5

flamingspartan3 said:
The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.
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Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.

zerosum0 said:
The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I agree with the battery part... As for women I like a nice toned women.

peachpuff said:
Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.
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your post conflicts by itself lol.
Also the 805 is a krait 400(or 500 can´t remember) architeture based on the a50 (the 800/801 are a15, and the 400 is based on the a7 with some variants based on the a9). Basicly the 805 runs a proprietary cpu architeture made after the a50 one, with the armv8 instruction set.
However the 810 runs the a51/53 instruction set, with no modifications, straight from ARM.and that´s something qualcomm didnt do for a long time,and as we can see the 810 WAS rushed to the market(the whole 64bit race)
Now for the thread, talking about the 800 series (since its what we have),it seems to have a good performance-heat ratio,however we feel it on our nexus due to poor thermal design, in the case of the n4/n5 the shield used to spread the heat don´t even touch the SOC lmao.
Talking qualcomm in general, i cant understand why they still have fails, having more than 15years of experience (10+ being with their own custom cores) i would expect them to not have these issues, but they still do.Also not going back much to the past, see the snap S4 gen 1 series(i.e the krait 200 variants, USA´S S3, Nexus 4 and such), they also have hw bugs(for instance, only the first core can go to fully deep sleep), thats something i would expect for a new player, not one with 15 years of experience(to make things even worse, qualcomm has been on the ARM market pretty much since the ARM arch/instruction set came out)
Also to OP, the 615,610,410,210 are all good socs, so the YXY pattern isn´t something here
However i must remember you guys, the one to blame here after all IS qualcomm, we dont have fully documentations and technical details or for most of you(including me) fully understanding of how a cpu is made / works but the a51 / 53 cores itself are fine, one player to see its the exynos 7220 on the s6, it runs a MALI gpu(which is from ARM,) and runs a53/51 architeture with a few modifications(not to the arch itself, but to the chip, make more thermal efficient, support samsung own branded chips, modems ,etc) and it runs better than the 810.
Also what made the 810 look worse is the drivers, adreno drivers sucks (sorry for the word, but this is more of a rant), my 4 year old MALI 400MP gpu haves about the same performance as my 2013´s adreno 330 (s3 exynos 4420 + mali 400mp vs nexus 5 snap 800 + adreno 330)

@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330

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@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330
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It really isnt in raw power or optmized games(gta sa and the newest NFS)but on the rest(even gta vice city) my s3 can keep up, and in fact due to better thermal design it can outstand the n5 after some time of playing

Nothing wrong with toned. But this craze of super thin is crazy. As for batteries if some one had come out with a replacement back with a huge battery inthat sloped to the camera that clipped in to replace the other I'd of been in heaven. My Nexus is in a heavy Spiegen case and I'm always amazed how skinny it is when I take it out to clean. I prefer it in the case. Feels better built
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[Q] Heat and CPU throttling

I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)

arange said:
I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)
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I encountered something like this before even without playing games. Check if you have this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904

My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )

arange said:
My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )
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Actually by enabling that option will affect your battery. Haven't done that on my Note 4 but tried that on my previous phone which is LG G2. Definitely it will be faster on rendering but it adds consumption on the battery. And also if the CPU is still overheating, the speed will still throttle down and still affects the applications that relies on CPU. Did you do any customization? If yes, incompatible kernel can be an issue also.
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Try installing this application. This application helped me track the application that is hogging my phone which is the Knox on my case. Look for a process that has a high cpu usage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.elixir&hl=en

CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.

Q-Logic said:
CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.
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Under clock it slightly. That will stop it reaching the temperature that throttles the CPU/GPU all the way down, but still keep good enough performance

The CPU's don't throttle very aggressively and work the clock speeds down fairly evenly so you won;t be able to manage it better yourself by underclocking.
the GPU on the other hand stock uses some pretty crazy throttle steps which knocks the clock speed way down in one step which is probably what most people notice while gaming. You can try fiddling with the max states to try and work it better, but if it gets hot enough to throttle then it will just settle down to it's base state of performance.
I do wonder what people expect when they states these things are 'issues' or it's 'Samsung ****'. Welcome to the world where phones are designed for burst performance only. The Power consumption of pretty much any phone SoC from the past 4-5 years is high enough that clock speeds will be dropping (way) down once you put any extended load on the device. There are SoC design choices that can help with this (very wide cores running at low clockspeeds/voltages) and process node improvements usually come with an increase of steady state performance but there is simply no getting away from the fact that phones can't maintain performance because they are just too small.
getting more performance when you're limited to maybe 2.5watts long term TDP is a challenge. Only way to actually improve it is to undervolt your device, which can help quite a bit if you can drive the voltages down by a decent amount.

OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.

Q-Logic said:
OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.
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The Note 4 probably runs the coolest. I have a N910F, it only heats up with very heavy games like Real Racing, the CPU generally stays cool though.
Maybe activate CPU Power Saving and Force GPU rendering to try balance out the heat and power? Thats what I would do.

Zuk Z1 in India

I'm thinking to buy this phone but really confused ....can anyone write a small review of it and how is the development community

Typing this answer from my ZUK Z1 that I have been using since the last 3 months. Before using this phone, I used the MI3 for little over one year after which the motherboard got faulty and it would have costed a bomb to replace it, so thought of buying a new phone instead. I reviewed a lot of phones for one month before zeroing in on the Z1. He is a small review of the device.
Build*- The build quality of the phone is great. I am using the space grey model which has a matte finish at the back. The back has a subtle curve which helps to have a firm grip on the phone. However, I feel you'd still need a back cover as the phone is slim and could slip off from your hand easily.
Chipset*- Coming to the chipset, the Z1 uses a nearly 2.5 yrs old Snapdragon 801 which was a major factor for me choosing this device. I had used the 800 with my MI3 and the performance was phenomenal. Not even once in my year long heavy usage have I faced a single instance of lag or stutter and no matter what I threw at it, it simply knocked it out of the park. So I was looking for a phone that would have the 800 or a similar processor. The 801 is a flagship 32 bit chipset but can chew up any new low end 64 bit chipset like the 410 or 615 easily. The performance on the Z1 is overall smooth with occasional stutters. I still think the 800 was slightly better in terms of performance but there are many things to consider here, so I'd rank the 801 along the same lines as 800. In fact, the 801 excels in some areas which I will get to shortly. So performance wise, Z1 is top notch.
UI*- The Z1 runs on Cyanogen 12 based on Android 5.1 (lollipop). The OS is highly customizable and gives you a stock android experience. There is no bloatware on the OS. The COS 13 was supposed to be released for ZUK Z1 but it hasn't been released yet (not sure if it ever will be). However the CyanogenMod 13 based on Android 6 is available for the Z1.
Display*- The Z1 has a 5.5 inch full HD IPS LCD panel. Even though it's not as sharp and vivid as an AMOLED screen, but it is quite good. The colors are vibrant and the viewing angles are also good.
RAM and Storage*- The Z1 comes with 3 GB of RAM and 64 GB internal of which around 58 GB is available to the user. OTG is supported.
Camera*- 13 MP rear and 8 MP front shooters. It has Optical Image Stabilization and the images come out to be pretty good in outdoors and even under artificial lightning.
Heating*- Heating is a big concern for smartphone users these days. Surprisingly, the Z1 has minimal heating when compared to its peers, like the Moto G4 plus, which can heat upto 46C and above with extensive usage (20-30 mins). However, with the Z1, even with over an hour of gaming, I haven't noticed any significant heating issues. The MI3 used to heat more than the Z1 and this is where I think the 801 wins over the 800. Also with calls of over 20 mins, I haven't noticed any heating at all. However, be forewarned that many users have reported abnormal heating with their Z1 devices, so I guess that I just got lucky here.
Gaming*- Played Mortal Kombat X and Dead Trigger 2 and faced little to no lag at all. With MK X, I faced very little stutter at times, but most people won't even notice it. Overall, gaming is very smooth on the Z1. Even heavy games like Asphalt 8 and Nova 3 will run smooth.
Call Quality*- Very good. Haven't faced any issues with call quality, however the reception over 4G in my area is not so strong.
Battery*- 4100 mAh battery, which would easily last for 1.5 to even 2 days with moderate usage. Charging time takes around 2 hrs.
Some things that the Z1 lacks:
1. NFC
2. IR blaster.
3. Box doesn't come with earphones.
4. Front flash
Overall, I feel that the Z1 is a good device that you can buy within a budget of 15K rupees.
Sent from my ZUK Z1 using XDA-Developers mobile app

How does the development scenario feel like to you? There aren't a lot of ROMs currently. What's the possibility of this getting Nougat (via CM14)?
Also, what would you recommend? This or the SD 650 powered Redmi Note 3?

Difference Between Snapdragon and Exynos on the Galaxy Note 9

I used my wife's Note 9 (Snapdragon - ATT ) and ran ANTUTU Benchmarks for grins and giggles and the phone got a score of about 284,000 - very respectable.
When I received my N960F - a Note 9 from Clove in the UK, I ran the same Benchmark from ANTUTU and the best score I could get was 236,000 - a HUGE difference.
I really expected more parity between those phones and wonder why there is such a big difference? Is the Exynos Process that far behond Snapdragon's latest?
(I know these benchmarks don't mean much - but just the same, after spending nearly a grand on this phone, I would have expected better)
Any thoughts?

same chips but on the S9. should give you an idea

Geekser said:
I used my wife's Note 9 (Snapdragon - ATT ) and ran ANTUTU Benchmarks for grins and giggles and the phone got a score of about 284,000 - very respectable.
When I received my N960F - a Note 9 from Clove in the UK, I ran the same Benchmark from ANTUTU and the best score I could get was 236,000 - a HUGE difference.
I really expected more parity between those phones and wonder why there is such a big difference? Is the Exynos Process that far behond Snapdragon's latest?
(I know these benchmarks don't mean much - but just the same, after spending nearly a grand on this phone, I would have expected better)
Any thoughts?
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What are your thoughts on battery life between the 2?

lawtq said:
What are your thoughts on battery life between the 2?
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great question but I haven't used either long enough to really get a sense for it - On first blush, battery seems similar on both - I can easliy get thru an entire day without charging - though I find myself automatically placing my phone in my wireless charger from time to time because I have always had to - I think I can break myself of that habit though - will play around a bit more on both and see how they fair in a comparison of daily use....

soraxd said:
same chips but on the S9. should give you an idea
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lawtq said:
What are your thoughts on battery life between the 2?
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Geekser said:
great question but I haven't used either long enough to really get a sense for it - On first blush, battery seems similar on both - I can easliy get thru an entire day without charging - though I find myself automatically placing my phone in my wireless charger from time to time because I have always had to - I think I can break myself of that habit though - will play around a bit more on both and see how they fair in a comparison of daily use....
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Did Samsung work on the kernel sources to improve the Exynos 9810's efficiency and performance to be on par with Snapdragon 845 ?
The answer is "NO".

Looks like the the tides have turned recently in favor of the snapdragon chipset.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk

Virgo_Guy said:
Did Samsung work on the kernel sources to improve the Exynos 9810's efficiency and performance to be on par with Snapdragon 845 ?
The answer is "NO".
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I know and I don't understand why. I think Exynos could be as good or better than the Snapdragon - but for some reason - it lags behind...

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I know and I don't understand why. I think Exynos could be as good or better than the Snapdragon - but for some reason - it lags behind...
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Could the Exynos 9810 be better in the s9/s9+/Note 9? - Probably to an extent working on the kernel but would still be behind the SD.

Geekser said:
great question but I haven't used either long enough to really get a sense for it - On first blush, battery seems similar on both - I can easliy get thru an entire day without charging - though I find myself automatically placing my phone in my wireless charger from time to time because I have always had to - I think I can break myself of that habit though - will play around a bit more on both and see how they fair in a comparison of daily use....
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Thanks. Look forward to hearing from you

Snapdragon Note 9 : Will Allow you to Play FASTER Gamecube/Wii/PSP Emulation. But Will not allow you to install custom roms or root your device.
Exynos Note : Will not play gamecube/Wii Games Smoothly but will allow you to install custom rom.
Personally if I didn't want Wii/Gamecube emulation, I would have easily bought exynos.

Ok in synthetic benchmarks such as antutu the 845 gets a higher score because of the better graphics processor. When it comes to the cpu side of things the 9810 is at least as good and sometimes better.

Cool Person said:
Snapdragon Note 9 : Will Allow you to Play FASTER Gamecube/Wii/PSP Emulation.But Will not allow you to install custom roms or root your device.
Exynos Note : Will not play gamecube/Wii Games Smoothly but will allow you to install custom rom.
Personally if I didn't want Wii/Gamecube emulation, I would have easily bought exynos.
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dolphin emulation on both chipsets recently took a massive jump forward. exynos included.
you can root on international snapdragon variants of the Note 9. I believe China has unlocked snapdragon. I've heard chit chat mentioning Canada as well, fact check these yourself tho.

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Ok in synthetic benchmarks such as antutu the 845 gets a higher score because of the better graphics processor. When it comes to the cpu side of things the 9810 is at least as good and sometimes better.
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Aha, but then the real world performance of the sd is far better than the exynos + it's more efficient leading to a lot better battery life + the modem is better. Then you throw in a GPU that is literally another class in a phone that potentially will be used also for gaming and this year a lot of heavy games were released with vastly different experience on the two variants (last year samsung got a free pass on their lossy g71 mp20 as no heavy games released, not the case this year and it's shaping more to release frequently in the future).
g72 mp18 can't even come close to the PREVIOUS year sd 835 in real world gaming. sd 845 benefits heavily from the note 9 cooling as it had some thermal restrictions and sustain performance was close to the sd 835 one (still far better than g72 mp18 sustain for both snapdragons), while the mali GPU doesn't benefit that much from the new cooling, the GPU is just slow.
In Europe we actually pay more for that phone, 1000 euros are not equal to 1000 us dollars, all that while we get a SOC that is between midrange and highend instead of the highend one that is for the US market. Previous years the exynos was better (galaxy s7 for example), but the difference between the two variants were never that big as this year.
Edit: check the other real world benchmarks like pcmark, browser benchmarks and so on - the sd variant wipes the floor with the exynos. Still, benches are not all, sadly the real world difference is also there and noticeable.

Again if you look at the geek bench scores for cpu (android central, did a comparison) the cpu side of the exynos 9810 outperformed the 845. I would agree when factoring in the 845 graphics the overall score of the 845 is better. Again you would be VERY hard pressed to notice the difference in the real world. And there is zero lag on either of these variants I found.
I know people in the industry and alot of the perceived difference is due to the scheduler for the 9810 not being as optimised as for the 845. Rule on the street is that Sammy will redress this soon with an update.
Also the woolfson DAC on the exynos provides a better quality audio experience and fuller sound stage than that of the aqstic DAC on the 845.
Again the difference is slim. I've noticed zero lag even on fortnite.
Reast assured both chips ate brutes. After all both the 845 and 9810 are currently fabricated/manufactured by samsung.

mikey_sk said:
Again if you look at the geek bench scores for cpu (android central, did a comparison) the cpu side of the exynos 9810 outperformed the 845. I would agree when factoring in the 845 graphics the overall score of the 845 is better. Again you would be VERY hard pressed to notice the difference in the real world. And there is zero lag on either of these variants I found.
I know people in the industry and alot of the perceived difference is due to the scheduler for the 9810 not being as optimised as for the 845. Rule on the street is that Sammy will redress this soon with an update.
Also the woolfson DAC on the exynos provides a better quality audio experience and fuller sound stage than that of the aqstic DAC.
Again the difference is slim. I've noticed zero lag even on fortnite.
Reast assured both chips ate brutes. After all both the 845 and 9810 are currently fabricated/manufactured by samsung.
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It's a lot more complicated than a simple scheduler and if it was going to be fixed, it was going to be fixed for the note 9 launch as it's a good few months from the s9/s9+ release with the same SOC (that is a lot in the fast moving forward mobile industry). Most likely they won't do any improvements even in future major android releases. Geekbench score is peak performance on burst load tasks, it's not counting task migrations, frequency scaling, cores hotpluging and so on. There are good articles for the 9810 in anandtech, how it can be improved, why it can not be improved beyond given point, but they are kinda techy and not easy to read if you are not into it.
tl:dr The CPU cores are great, but has some flaws and everything around them is sh*t (sorry for my language, but yeah). The DAC is great tho, this is totally true.
For the GPU part there are a lot of materials about adreno 630 vs g72 mp18 with actual stats like max fps, min fps, FPS stability and so on. Fortnite will run ok, but on the sd845 it can run maxed out fluently (for the most part). Also when one spend 1000 euro, he should think about future proving and gaming is moving fast forward this year. If you game on your phone, it's kinda a bummer to settle for lower GFX settings on one of the most expensive phones this year, if you want smooth experience.
Not saying the exynos is super bad, it's not, but it's not on par with the sd845.

Again you would be hard pressed to notice the difference. Both variants are perfectly fine so everyone buy either with confidence.

It's not true, marvel strike force is unplayable on exynos version

9810 user here and i have to limit the exynos speed for it to get to a day. This sucks. I paid usd1000 but need to turn pn battery saver every morning

No rows written here reflect the reality. Just snapdragon users happy with their chipset. Another report on the S9 test that is outdated. The smallest SOT with exynos is 7h with only mobile data. Who does not know how to use an android or uses it as a playstation is his job. For a normal user it's great.

roticanai said:
9810 user here and i have to limit the exynos speed for it to get to a day. This sucks. I paid usd1000 but need to turn pn battery saver every morning
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I don't even have to do that with my Note 8. You can likely squeeze more out of it, but a lot depends on usage patterns of course.

General Benchmark scores and temperatures are all over the place with the place with the Exynos model

I normally don't give a damn about benchmarks but lately I've been watching comparison videos between the Exynos and the Snapdragon model and I saw that people got way higher scores and lower temperatures on their Exynos model while I'm getting way lower fps and scores.
I tried 3DMark Wild Life Test and my score was ~5100. Phone was idle at that moment and cold to the touch. Others get easily 5700-5800 points and on the Stress Test they peak at 5700 while I'm barely over 5000.
Is something wrong with my S21 Ultra Exynos?

you can by 10 same smartphone, you will neve have same result, like for graphic card or cpu .... that's normal but maybe is just software issue or bad device in your case, try toclear your data cache in recovry mode thant test again, if not good, reset your phone by factory settings and try again if still not good...change the device

iamnotkurtcobain said:
I normally don't give a damn about benchmarks but lately I've been watching comparison videos between the Exynos and the Snapdragon model and I saw that people got way higher scores and lower temperatures on their Exynos model while I'm getting way lower fps and scores.
I tried 3DMark Wild Life Test and my score was ~5100. Phone was idle at that moment and cold to the touch. Others get easily 5700-5800 points and on the Stress Test they peak at 5700 while I'm barely over 5000.
Is something wrong with my S21 Ultra Exynos?
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Should have gotten the HK variant with snapdragon tbh