I recently unrooted my Moto X 1053 DevEd (GSM) in order to accept the Lollipop 5.1 OTA. I got the update and it's working great.
Now I want to re-root my phone, but first I want to be sure that I have a copy of stock recovery.img for Lollipop 5.1.
How can I back up recovery.img from my phone without my phone being rooted?
Thanks!
is temp booting custom recovery still possible... I haven't messed around with stuff in a while, but I think if you can temp boot twrp recovery (fastboot boot twrp) you might be able to use it to back up the stock recovery... you should google for more info on that, make sure it doesn't flash instead of boot.
otherwise you can't backup stock recovery without root. it's kind of a catch 22: you want to back up stock recovery before you root, but you can't do that on the device without root.
normally you can get the recovery from the stock firmware zip file. but I don't think Motorola is handing them out for 5.1 yet - if they are then it will be in that file. if not I suppose the next best thing is to rummage through the OTA file. I haven't unzipped it myself but it has to be in there right? some info that might help: the recovery size is 10mb. I can see it with the DiskInfo app, along with its block partition name mmcblk0p34, although it probably won't be named that in the zip file idk... anyway you can find the OTA here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Eu943ka0GfQVVsdS13eHhZaU0/view?pli=1
That is a really, really helpful post, dtg7. I had hoped Moto would have posted the firmware, but I guess I'm too impatient. As I didn't have a separate copy of the OTA, I'm doing as you suggested and grabbing the OTA from the site you linked to. I'll try to extract the recovery.img file from there. I'll post my results.
Yes, this is a classic catch 22, as you say.
dtg7 said:
I haven't messed around with stuff in a while,...
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This is precisely my problem. I get semi-proficient with phone stuff every now and then when I'm changing things around, but then I forget almost everything I need to know to do the most basic geek maneuvers. When I had an HTC Sensation, which was a favorite for ROM-makers and modders, I was swapping out the ROM nearly every day between meals. With the Moto X I haven't done this much, maybe because I've gotten older, but mainly because there don't seem to be as many custom ROMs for the Moto X (nor is as much need for them, with Xposed and with a decent stock ROM.
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anyway you can find the OTA here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Eu943ka0GfQVVsdS13eHhZaU0/view?pli=1
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Isn't that a link to KitKat 4.4.4 (i.e., 213.44.1)?
I've got Lollipop 5.1 on my phone, and "About Phone" lists it as 222.21.15.
It's actually system.img from 222.21.15 that I'm trying to get ahold of.
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Isn't that a link to KitKat 4.4.4 (i.e., 213.44.1)?
I've got Lollipop 5.1 on my phone, and "About Phone" lists it as 222.21.15.
It's actually system.img from 222.21.15 that I'm trying to get ahold of.
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Or is this still the case (quoted from elsewhere on this site)?
file name ... references the build your phone must be on to accept the update, not the version of the update itself. That is how Moto has done it for some time now.
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Or is this still the case (quoted from elsewhere on this site)?
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yes that is still the case, moto otas refer to the android version you're updating From
that file is what I used to update from 4.4.4 to lollipop
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yes that is still the case, moto otas refer to the android version you're updating From
that file is what I used to update from 4.4.4 to lollipop
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Thanks for clarifying this.
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Thanks for clarifying this.
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I'm in the same boat, only I need the recovery to kick off encryption. My process was, test the TWRP lollipop build, backup data with TWRP, flash 4.4.4 stock, OTA upgrade to Lollipop, install TWRP, restore data, can't encrypt now without stock recovery.
AaronCompNetSys said:
I'm in the same boat, only I need the recovery to kick off encryption. My process was, test the TWRP lollipop build, backup data with TWRP, flash 4.4.4 stock, OTA upgrade to Lollipop, install TWRP, restore data, can't encrypt now without stock recovery.
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I can't find recovery.img in the uncompressed file dtg7 kindly linked above:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Eu943ka0GfQVVsdS13eHhZaU0/view?pli=1
Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
I *did* find the 4.4.4 recovery.img in the uncompressed file I requested and received from Moto. It seems like Moto sometimes uses the same recovery.img from release to release, but I'd be skittish about using this with stock 5.1 until someone can give it the all-clear. As of right now (27 june 15, 9:00 GMT), Moto hasn't posted stock 5.1.
AaronCompNetSys said:
I'm in the same boat, only I need the recovery to kick off encryption. My process was, test the TWRP lollipop build, backup data with TWRP, flash 4.4.4 stock, OTA upgrade to Lollipop, install TWRP, restore data, can't encrypt now without stock recovery.
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As of right now (27 june 15, 9:00 GMT), Moto hasn't posted stock 5.1.
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Looks like the stock XT1053 5.1 firmware is available now. See the links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-collection-firmwares-fxz-sbf-t3146628
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Looks like the stock XT1053 5.1 firmware is available now. See the links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-collection-firmwares-fxz-sbf-t3146628
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Thanks! I'm not sure if I want to try flashing just the recovery or not, I've been having lots lof radio active time so I migh full wipe/flash to try to clear that up.
Here is just the recovery from the "tmo_retail_xt1053_5.1_lpa23.12-15.222.21.15.ghost_row.retail.en.us.tgz" file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!WU5WjaqL!109FXTQovfywRxJM67YBH5KHrErNZYILPVyzk4HGK-c
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I recently unrooted my Moto X 1053 DevEd (GSM) in order to accept the Lollipop 5.1 OTA. I got the update and it's working great.
Now I want to re-root my phone, but first I want to be sure that I have a copy of stock recovery.img for Lollipop 5.1.
How can I back up recovery.img from my phone without my phone being rooted?
Thanks!
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Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
dray_jr said:
if you take the 4.4.2 update you will loose root and wont be able to get it back till who knows when.
but you need to flash your phone back to 100% stock just like you did when root your device but instead of using the 4.2.2 CU firmware use the 4.4
here is all the firmware for the Moto X
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
your device is a Att model so you should be able to flash the ATT 4.4 firmware but im not 100% sure but maybe you will find your carrier listed there.
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yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
msespindola said:
yeah,i know,aware of loosing root,but,mine is retail,and i've found the brazilian retail one(Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_row.Brasil.en.BR)!
How do i revert back to stock?never done that before!
Thx for the help so far buddy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
there are two ways in this guide i like the manual way. but your choice make sure you read everything because if you do this wrong you can brick.
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Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
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Okay buddy,will take a look when i get home from work!
One questiona buddy managed to get the fastboot img for me,if i just flash the stock recovery img and then try to update will it work?
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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this is why i dont read on my phone i miss crap anyway if you flash 4.4.2 yes you can flash the 4.4 TWRP and then SuperSU with a unlocked bootloader.. sorry for my miss read thanks for the catch
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Schaweet said:
If he has an unlocked bootloader, why would he not be able to get root back?
I thought when the bootloader was unlocked you had free reign over the device. Shouldn't he be able to upgrade to 4.4.2 and use SU and TWRP to get root back? I don't get why he wouldn't be able to do that.
Flash 4.4.2
Flash TWRP via mfastboot
Install SU zip via TWRP
Boot
Install SU app
What am I missing?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Thx guys, I'll do this later, thx for the awesome responses
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
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idk i dont like to doing things half way there have been way to many bricks lately.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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Can someone else please chime in on this? I have a Dev Edition VZW Moto X, and when the 4.4.2 update is finally available, I want to know what to do. My phone is unlocked & rooted with TWRP installed. Can I just flash the factory recovery and then take the OTA? Or do I have to revert to 100% stock? If I only flash stock recovery and take the OTA, data won't be wiped, will it? That is the big reason I would like to avoid going back to 100% stock if I can.
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My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
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My hope is that someone on here will repackage the OTA for us to sideload. That would be the best case scenario.
If not, I think you just need a stock recovery, but I could be wrong. I've seen someone say you need to flash stock system as well. I have the same questions as you if we don't get a side loadable zip.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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What I've read is you need to go back to stock recovery and also make sure any /system files are unchanged. For example I renamed my old exchange apk's (in /system/app) when I put in the new ones from the nexus 5 on 4.4.2, so I would need to name those files back.
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It's not the end of the world if I have to wipe data and restore everything from TiBu, but it's still a PITA I would like to avoid if possible. More importantly, I don't want to run into any issues when installed the update. So if there is any question as to whether stock recovery alone is sufficient for the update to install properly, I will probably go back to full stock to be safe. I guess I have some time to let smarter people figure it out, since there is no update for VZW yet.
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I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
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I'm sure some nice developer will help us along.
What have you done to take you off of stock?
I just have custom recovery and xposed. Xposed shouldn't cause any issues.
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I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
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I guess nothing, other than TWRP, Xposed, and obviously root. I have seen several people say that you have to unroot before installed an OTA, but I don't know if that applies to the Dev X or just the standard version. A lot of people seem to indicate that you have to go back to stock, so I just want to clarify what is really required.
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Good questions. I'm not sure. We certainly root differently than a non Dev edition. They might have some files modified that we don't have to modify. Also, I wonder is going to stock recovery will unroot us.
I guess we wait and stay patient.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
The only hope you have is if someone decides to take that factory image and runnit through kitchen to make it a flashable zip. You will also need the updated modem from either 4.4 or 4.4.2 to prevent system settings from fc ing
This goes for any moto, retail and or developer edition
You may also attempt to flash the sbf firmware and remove the delete userdata from the XML but no guarantee that you will not have issues
Hope that helps
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
To take an ota you must be stock. Meaning everything. As long as you haven't flashed an updated bootloader you can just flash system.IMG and recovery.IMG from the sbf your phone is currently on you can take an ota. A successful ota does NOT require a data wipe.
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finalarcadia said:
Surely there must be a way to flash updates through TWRP?
I want to grab one of these
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
and flash it through TWRP. Anyone know if this is possible?
Wouldn't mind 4.4.2 right now on my dev ed, to see if my bluetooth problem gets fixed.
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You cannot flash any of those through twrp! If you want to flash 4.4.2 you need to fastboot the system.IMG and boot.IMG and you will need to wipe your data. If you choose this route you will not be able to take the ota when its available you'd have to wait for the sbf file to be released and update through house of moto, rsd, or fastboot.
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Unfortunately you can not take the ota if
1- you have custom recovery
2- root
3- changed any system file
It will bootloop
Clearing data is always required after any ota
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some questions.. and comments...
I agree with #1. You must have STOCK recovery for an OTA to install properly. And #3, because the OTA generally has a file list with check sums to compare against what is on your device to make sure all required files are there and the correct version/size/etc before it will start to install.
#2 I have a question on as I've not had an issue with this unless the root process makes changes to system files (thus causing a problem for #3). I've lost root taking an OTA, but that is it.
Then again, I have a Dev X with unlocked bootloader, and I don't know enough about RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto, etc was of rooting the X, except that initially they replaced the recovery partition with an image that when selected/booted allowed write to system, etc. This would cause issue with #1 (no longer have stock recovery on the recovery partition), but not sure what, if any system files get touched or altered from stock.
Finally, you mention clearing data being required... This would wipe you back to factory defaults and remove your apps/data. I don't believe its "required" but rather just suggested as it can make the device run smoother after the update is done.
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msespindola said:
Guys,i have Retail 1058 Moto X with unlocked Bootloader,TWRP(latest and rooted) and i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Some guys already received the 4.4.2 brazilian update via OTA,and extracted the zip file,but,since im on custom recovery,the OTA doesnt reboot the phone into stock and go straight to TWRP,therefore,doesnt conclude the update,and keep restarting!
Since i need the phone,i did a factory reset via TWRP just to get things going!
But,i want to upgrade to 4.4.2!
Is there a way to do that?remove TWRP ou something else?
I've seen some people saying that i need to flash the 4.4 img which it is inside the zip but,i dont have that zip anymore!
Thx in advance!
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Depends on how you rooted.
If you've downloaded the SBF file for the ROM on your device (if you don't have it, see if its available from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 ), you can unzip it, and fastboot flash the stock recovery from it onto your device, take the OTA, and then later fastboot flash TWRP back on and install SuperSU again to root.
This assumes you did NOT touch any system files the update will check for prior to running/installing. If you did touch system files, edit build prop, removed/renamed any APK's... then fastboot flash recovery and system before taking the OTA
After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?
There's a bunch of ota threads my friend. Read up. Some are stickies...like the complete Moto x guide thread.
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SwiftLeeO said:
After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?
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If you downloaded the update it's in the cache folder.
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If you downloaded the update it's in the cache folder.
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Well, it just says install. I don't want to install it because I'm rooted with custom recovery and it might brick my phone. I checked the cache folder and there are 3 folders: backup, lost+found, and recovery
SwiftLeeO said:
After installing TWRP and SuperSU (not sure if they are relevant, but I'd figure I'd include all the steps), I notice that my phone has a firmware update. Now, first of all, I thought dev phones don't get updates? Also, if this is a legitimate update, how can I pull the ota to post?
Also, I'm already on 4.4, so could this be 4.4.2?
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Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted but you already know that.
What root explorer/browser are you using?
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Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted.
What root explorer/browser are you using?
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Root Browser by JRummy. I normally use ES, but i stopped after it wouldnt let me edit permissions.
Its just a glitch. In your cache it'd have its own folder named after the current os. Wipe cache and dalvic and you should be free of the glitch.
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Root Browser by JRummy. I normally use ES, but i stopped after it wouldnt let me edit permissions.
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that is what I am using and I see the exact same subfolders you are seeing in the cache. I take it you don't see the OTA file in any of the subfolders?
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that is what I am using and I see the exact same subfolders you are seeing in the cache. I take it you don't see the OTA file in any of the subfolders?
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No ota file. Might be a glitch as shane suggested.
False alarm. Went into Software Update to check and I'm up-to-date .-.
Cozume said:
Developer Editions get OTAs the same as any other Moto X. But that is odd as there have been no reports of the soak test even being started for the Verizon Moto X. Sounds like the OTA got pushed to you by mistake.
Anyhow, what is clear is that you can't take an OTA when you are rooted but you already know that.
What root explorer/browser are you using?
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If you are rooted and want to take the OTA, you can flash the stock recovery and the system.img file with mfastboot.exe, and the OTA should install. i.e. if you are on 4.2.2, rooted with a custom recovery, then you should download the factory 4.2.2 image FOR YOUR DEVICE. Then extract it and use mfastboot to flash recovery.img and system. img. When you reboot, the phone will download the 4.4 OTA and it should install no problem. After it installs, just use mfastboot to flash TWRP and let TWRP root your device and you should be good as new with 4.4.
The stock recovery and an unaltered system folder are the key ingredients to a successful upgrade.
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You can absolutely take an OTA while rooted. The only thing that would prevent you from taking an OTA is if you have altered any system files (such as deleting system apps), or if you have messed and around and flashed a bootloader that doesn't match.
If you flash the factory recovery, you can take the OTA no problem even if rooted. You will of course lose root, but that's easily solved with an unlocked bootloader.
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Ok, this is the kind of stuff that makes it so hard on noobs. On the thread about the OTA it says you have to get rid of root:
[NOOBS][WARNING][OTA]how to accept an ota
I know if the Moto X were a Nexus you could take the OTA while rooted but would lose root. But with the Moto X, it seems like you can't do that.
Cozume said:
Ok, this is the kind of stuff that makes it so hard on noobs. On the thread about the OTA it says you have to get rid of root:
[NOOBS][WARNING][OTA]how to accept an ota
I know if the Moto X were a Nexus you could take the OTA while rooted but would lose root. But with the Moto X, it seems like you can't do that.
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Ok, so I just downgraded to 4.2.2, rooted, and tried to take the OTA and it failed. So, I stand corrected. You are right, you can not take the OTA if you are rooted. Well, you CAN take it, but it will fail to install. It sees the su app as an alteration to the system folder (which it is).
Easiest fix is to to use mfastboot to flash the stock recovery and flash the system.img file so it is back to stock. Reboot then let the OTA install and you should be good to go.
Sorry for the misinformation, and I will correct my earlier post so as not to confuse the "noobs." LOL.
Thank you, Cozume
OK ,its simple. 1 moto is no nexus device
2 where does the su binary flash to?xbin folder, is that not part of the system? The only reason why some folks on T-Mobile have root afterwards is, the 4.4.2 is a partial update for them as they received 4.4 , it only replaces some files,If you have a carrier such as Rogers that's going from 4.2.2 directly to 4.4.2 then all the system folders are replaced and you need to remove root along with the binary file, there are other carriers as well that are going from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 directly
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flashallthetime said:
OK ,its simple. 1 moto is no nexus device
2 where does the su binary flash to?xbin folder, is that not part of the system? The only reason why some folks on T-Mobile have root afterwards is, the 4.4.2 is a partial update for them as they received 4.4 , it only replaces some files,If you have a carrier such as Rogers that's going from 4.2.2 directly to 4.4.2 then all the system folders are replaced and you need to remove root along with the binary file, there are other carriers as well that are going from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 directly
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Yup, sorry for the misinformation. I was mistaken and corrected it. Likely while you were typing up your response.
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.
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The xt1055 doesn't have 4.4.4 yet. You can install stock 4.4.2 - just find the thread in general titled 'return to 100% stock'. Everything you need is there.
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Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!
Josue96 said:
Do you think the 4.4.4 update is going to be released soon?
also, if i return to 100% stock, will i be able to install the new update normally ? i mean without downloading it to the pc, etc
Thank you very much!!
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It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.
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It will probably be released soon but I have no way of knowing.
Yes, if you flash to stock 4.4.2, you can take the ota normally with no PC. That is assuming you don't flash custom recovery or modify /system. If you do, you cannot take the ota normally. You must flash stock recovery back first and undo any significant changes to /system. That means no Xposed, etc.
If you want further details, search XDA for how to take an ota update.
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i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol
Josue96 said:
i think i did... i unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone, moved some files to the phone too, i dont really know lol
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I said that's assuming you 'don't' (not didn't) do those things -- you will receive the OTA as normal AFTER following the instructions in the return to stock thread to return to 100% stock.
Once you "return to stock" you will be 100% stock - any past changes won't matter.
IF **AFTER** you follow the return to stock guide to return to full stock 4.4.2, you flash TWRP and/or modify files in /system, you can't take the OTA until you un-do all of those changes.
Understand? Nothing you did or have done previously matters. All that matters is what you do AFTER you return to stock...
Josue96 said:
Recently i rooted my moto x trying to update the software, i installed cyanogenmod 11 but i just keep getting crash reports, i really want to install the '' normal '' ? 4.4.4 i am sorry for my lack of knowledge about this topic, but can someone give me a official link to download? my moto x is XT1055
Thanks
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If you want Stock images Found here for your dive
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Choose your device and download insatll using RSD lite it will go 100% stock then if any updates 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 download automatically shows in your mobile .
I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root? Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
jonortiz said:
I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root?
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You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
jonortiz said:
Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
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Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
jonortiz said:
could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
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Its in one of the stickies either here or on general how to return to stock to take an OTA.
Basically, you get the 4.4.2 sbf for Verizon Moto X. Then you unzip it and use mfastboot to flash recovery.img. But the site with the sbf's has been down alot lately. You may be able to use regular fastboot to flash recovery. I think you only need mfastboot to flash the system.img.
Be sure and make a nandroid before you flash the stock recovery!
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
chrisp6825 said:
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
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Do this it's super simple
Sent from my XT1060
rocketsaucev2 said:
Do this it's super simple
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While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
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While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
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The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
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The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
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I see that now that you mentioned it. The new layout is truncating the thread titles on me. I really don't like the new layout for reasons like that, but I suppose someone must like it or they wouldn't have changed it.
I keep seeing a link to sbf.droid-developers.rog for stock Moto X firmware files. It appears that site is no longer maintained. Is there any other resource for stock firmwares out there?
I'm currently on rooted 4.4.2 (Moto X 2013) and was hoping to use Sunshine to unlock my bootloader, return to stock, take the new Republic 5.1 OTA that's due out soon, and root from there with an unlocked bootloader.
I believe if you upgrade any further then you currently are (EG: Android 4.4.4 or higher), you will not be able to root and unlock your Republic Wireless phone...
Hey
Apparently am not able to send outside links so look for the stock firmware in yandex. Hope you understand
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I believe if you upgrade any further then you currently are (EG: Android 4.4.4 or higher), you will not be able to root and unlock your Republic Wireless phone...
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I was able to use Sunshine to unlock my bootloader at 4.4.2. Then I was able to upgrade to 4.4.4 and ultimately to 5.1 and get root due to the unlocked bootloader.
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Apparently am not able to send outside links so look for the stock firmware in yandex. Hope you understand
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I managed to find 4.4.2 here: filefactory.com/file/6rarzwf3okj3/ghost_repw-user-4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.24-1.12-12-release-keys-cid6.xml.zip
News: the Republic Wireless 5.1 SBF is out on File Factory. Here's the link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/27kl2ef9ngk7/XT1049_GHOST_REPW_5.1_LPA23.12-39-R-15_cid6_CFC.xml.zip
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News: the Republic Wireless 5.1 SBF is out on File Factory.
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Fantastic! Thanks for the link. I ran a bit of a risk rooting on 5.1 without a backup stock rom. Glad to know I don't have to worry about it now.
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Fantastic! Thanks for the link. I ran a bit of a risk rooting on 5.1 without a backup stock rom. Glad to know I don't have to worry about it now.
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if it makes you feel better, I have an unlocked bootloader and I used the file above yesterday (using the instructions on here to restore to stock, editing the xml file, etc). worked fine! I was nervous too, after taking the 5.1 RW update, rooting, and messing something up myself with an older xposed version (I was NOT paying attention. LOL). All better! Nice to have that file handy now!
I was just able to take the EMR update first through system update OTA. Now it won't give me the 5.1 OTA. I currently have stock recovery, no root, with no system mods. I tried manually installing the 5.1 OTA but it doesn't work. It says it was aborted because the package expected a different build fingerprint. But I'm on 212.154.2.ghost_row.RepublicWireless.en.US Any suggestions for getting the OTA to work, or do I have to get root and TWRP back and flash the 5.1 SBF? If so, is the 894.64 MB zip from file factory for sure the one I need for Republic Wireless? I just don't want to brick my phone. Thanks!
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I was doing some research and I think I forgot 1 step to make sure I'm 100% back to stock. I made no system mods and I did flash stock recovery, but I forgot about the boot image I was using so I wasn't seeing the bootloader unlocked message. Would that make the manual OTA fail/abort and/or also make system update not recognize 5.1 is needed? I'm guessing it does. So I'll try getting TWRP back and flashing the correct stock boot image for 4.4.4, then remove root/TWRP again and see if it will take the OTA, either from system update or manual OTA. Hopefully this works, or at least reminds others to take this step if necessary. Thanks for any feedback!
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I was just able to take the EMR update first through system update OTA. Now it won't give me the 5.1 OTA. I currently have stock recovery, no root, with no system mods. I tried manually installing the 5.1 OTA but it doesn't work. It says it was aborted because the package expected a different build fingerprint. But I'm on 212.154.2.ghost_row.RepublicWireless.en.US Any suggestions for getting the OTA to work, or do I have to get root and TWRP back and flash the 5.1 SBF? If so, is the 894.64 MB zip from file factory for sure the one I need for Republic Wireless? I just don't want to brick my phone. Thanks!
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I was doing some research and I think I forgot 1 step to make sure I'm 100% back to stock. I made no system mods and I did flash stock recovery, but I forgot about the boot image I was using so I wasn't seeing the bootloader unlocked message. Would that make the manual OTA fail/abort and/or also make system update not recognize 5.1 is needed? I'm guessing it does. So I'll try getting TWRP back and flashing the correct stock boot image for 4.4.4, then remove root/TWRP again and see if it will take the OTA, either from system update or manual OTA. Hopefully this works, or at least reminds others to take this step if necessary. Thanks for any feedback!
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Are you installing the full 5.1 recovery or are you trying to flash just the OTA? The OTA file itself is just a diff not the full recovery. The file linked above should be the full system.
I'm trying to get the OTA to work first. If I can't, then I'll use the full SBF. I've already returned to stock recovery. I just wanted to check to make sure someone has used the full SBF that is posted and that there are no issues with it. Thanks!