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[Q] UMTS/HSPA 900 + LTE Band 20 Flash ATT S5

I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
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mgullvik said:
I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
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AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.

MattMJB0188 said:
AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.
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AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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mgullvik said:
AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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They'll unlock it if its paid off entirely. But that doesn't mean you can't unlock it yourself.

Will the Z3C work on T-Mobile US?

Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.

coolmalayalee said:
Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/

Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
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Yes, the D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact should work withT-mobile.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40

Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos Tmobile Z3 Unboxing​

so pretty much like the Z1 (C6903 variant that did all USA 4G/LTE and 3G)!

drago10029 said:
I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos l​
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol

sillieidiot said:
how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards

drago10029 said:
You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
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That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.

se1000 said:
That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
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Well, if you have a better answer than by all means you can answer his question. I was just taking a stab at it based off of good assumptions.

I don't believe T-Mobile is getting the compact version, check this http://developer.sonymobile.com/tag/d5833/ and notice the tags at the bottom, no mention of a D5816 which should be the model of the compact TMO version, if there was one, based on D6616 being the standard size version.

It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
In order to work on T-Mobile's network, the device must support one of the following frequencies:
850 MHz (2G)
1900 MHz (2G or 3G / 4G depending on location)
1700/2100 MHz (3G / 4G or LTE depending on location)
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See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
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So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible

Nuckin said:
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.

Firov said:
I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:

Nuckin said:
Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.

Firov said:
I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
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Thank you for not only the answer but explanation, have a :good:

Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.

smoovy said:
Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.

Firov said:
No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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I have a Z3C coming for use on T-Mo in the states (going from GS3 as well). I almost didn't get it because of the lack of compatibility with LTE Band 12, but then I saw where the Band 12 coverage will actually be. Frankly, it doesn't cover my area, so I decided since it is compatible with all the other LTE Bands to go for it.
There is a great map at TMoNews that shows you just where the Band 12 coverage will be, but I can't post links yet.

I cant wait. My z3c will be here tomorrow... thanks for all the info.

Which Note 4 Exynos version works with USA T-Mobile LTE?

Folks,
I have looked for this answer everywhere and do not seem to find an answer for it: Which version of the Note 4 Exynos works with T-Mobile LTE?
From a post I read, seems that the SM-N910C sold in Qatar works, but I am not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
G

Interesting...unless the Qatar version supports 1700MHz band....I'm don't think you'll fully be able to utilize the TM network.
This makes me curious now...

This is what I found, from XDA:
SM-N910T(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910T1(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
Now, for models with Exynos:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910H(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia-Pacific]------{WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
I have read somewhere here in XDA that the SM-N910H will not work in T-Mobile. Then is only:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
And found this on the N910C:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certified-devices/4648.html?view=terminal
E-UTRA FDD Band 1: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 2: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 3: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 4: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 5: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 7: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 8: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 20: Category : 4
And this on the N910K:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-N910KZKEKTC-spec
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900) B17 (700)
And this on the N910L:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/lgt/SM-N910LZKELUC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600)
And this on the N910S:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N910SZKESKC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600),B17(700)
And this on the SM-N910U:
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So, what do you think?

And finally, for T-Mobile's SM-N910T,
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17

The authority on operating bands in the US is the FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
Also, when on call or in a low-signal area, hold the phone with your left hand. The diversity receiver (2nd antenna) is right beneath the power button.

ATnTdude said:
The authority on operating bands is the US FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
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Yup, thanks a lot ! I was getting to that conclusion... T-Mobile uses Band 4 (AWS 1700/2100 MHz), which you are right only the N910C and N910U have. And also true, as with other international phones like the Sony Z3 and others, the biggest regret will be Band 12. However, for what I have read, the regret there of not having Band 12 is WiFi calling and some better reception indoor like in buildings and such.
Cheers,
G.

LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/

ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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Thank you very much.
I looked at that map but did not quite understood the results. So, can you please educate me on what really I might miss should I go missing the Band 12 for someone living on those areas you have mentioned above?
I am tired of waiting on the T-Mobile Note 4 availability and the N910U seems to be available on eBay, plus it has the Exynos.
Cheers,

What's so special about the Exynos processor over the 805? The 805 in my Note4 is a beast.
Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-exynos-5433-vs-snapdragon-805-395820/
The Exynos is faster. Got it.
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ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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How do you add wi-fi calling via root? My understanding is that no one has managed to extract wi-fi related software pieces from T-Mobile ROMs and successfully port anywhere. That's why I'm always stuck with TW ROMs.

Just get the sm-n910t. Why do you want Exynos version? Many app wont take advantage of that cpu.

Yup, I did. Was trying to find alternatives since the Tmobile version seems so scarce and difficult to get...but, finally got one. Cheerrs. G.

N910C VoLTE and international dialer questions.
For anyone that has the N910C running on T-Mobile, is VoLTE actived for you? When you make a call, does it stay on LTE or does it drop to 4G (HSPA) and then go back to LTE after you hang up.
Also, does the dialer include the video chat icon on the bottom left and is there a way to remove it since (I'm guessing) it doesn't work.

I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.

turoki said:
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
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Does HSPA (aws) 3G/4G (H+) work on your 910c on tmobile?
Also are you able to make calls & use data at the same time?
Edit: nevermind just read above post. Please disregard

Can anyone confirm for sure if they're able to surf the web or do any data related activity while on a call with their sm-n910c? I have ZERO data connectivity while on a call and as soon as the call hangs up, I instantly have my data back. Any help or confirmation is appreciated.

[Q] Does Pure Edition support Fido/Rogers 3G/LTE bands?

I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.

busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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It will work perfect, 100%

Telus sells the XT1097, your looking at the XT1095 out the US just don't pick the AT&T model as it has a locked boot loader that seems cant be unlocked at all..... The Telus model, supposed to have the quickest updates... well thats a lie.... there is no update as of today... and no indication of when either...

I was able to buy a XT1095. I still haven't received it but now all I can think about is "What if I need to use the warranty for some reason?". Did anyone in Canada have to go through that?

busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
Telus Moto X Specs
4G LTE: (Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,17, 29)
4G (HSPA): 2100MHz (Band I) / 1900MHz (Band II) / 1700MHz (Band IV) / 850MHz (Band V) / 900MHz (Band VIII)
Seems like the Pure Edition is missing band 29, where its available on the Telus version. Not sure if it will affect the LTE connection"
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On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.

BMelz said:
I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.

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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
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thanks for the reply Steve, so the lack of band 29 shouldn't be an issue? LTE speeds should be achievable?
thanks again,

International Note 5?

Where can I buy a international note 5 for germany?
Thanks

seems its available in singapore, anyknows where it can be bought online

Yes, it is available in Singapore... I bought mine in a samsung-shop on saturday. Not sure about online ordering.
Maybe you can try here...
http://www.expansys.com.sg/mobile-phones/brand/samsung/

check ur PM

Does anyone know which Version Supports german language and celluar bands?

Hey, I have not looked at asian note 5 yet, I will do so soon.
For Europe, you need gsm and lte 3, 7, and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz) [no26-800MHz # no20-800MHz! ...]
To use US phones for Europe, this is what i have come up with.
http://imgur.com/1yPhyFQ
I based that on what I found for SM-N920 A/V/P (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint), German/UK LTE network requirements, and the Galaxy S6 (SM-G920 A/V/P/F, F=Europe/Int). I guess the Note 5 is pretty much a S6 with larger screen and pen, so network capabilities should not differ too much between the S6 and the Note 5, hopefully.
I will get a AT&T device soon, hopefully only bootloader unlocked and just KNOX (don't care too much about warranty for US phone since I import it...). AT&T should work for most of Europe, or respectively for LTE 3, 7, and 20....
I see what I can find for the Asian Note 5 ('s) and msg back
EDIT:
Haven't found much info on the SM-N920S / SM-N920K (Korea, Asia?), but based on the SM-G920S/K or Galaxy S6, versus the SM-G920F Europe, there are some minor differences, but I think these should work just fine in Europe as well... http://www.mobosdata.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-sm-g920f (k, s).
g/l

Ill also need to import one, since it wont come here to brazil...needs to be lte band 7...id like to buy it today if possible...

How you can use a Galaxy Note 5 from U.S in Europe? is the region block...

the at&t one, unlock via website, not straight forward potentially, but seems possible espc as non-customer - https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
but what bothers me is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641 - i guess will hold off the note 5 at&t for now, same with verizon, and sprint might not have full lte capabilities.
i might get the surface phone lol (if i can get full access to registry and group policies and have some way of turning all the phoning home off)...

Man, why you speack about Note with carriers?
On eBay there are a lot model FACTORY UNLOCKED, are they good? they have the region block if i buy them and i use in Italy?

I have the singapore one.
And it works just fine here in the netherlands.
At my home I don't have 4G.
Outside there is no problem.
I think the singapore one misses the 800 band.
4G is working only in the big cities here for now with this note 5.
Later this year the phone company release another bands.

800Mhz is to 1800 and 2600MHz LTE - loosely compared - as 5GHz Wifi is to 2.4GHz -- higher transfer speeds at the higher frequencies but shorter range and less signal through obstancles, generally speaking.
Would explain why inside you would not get a great LTE signal, if the 800MHz band is missing.... imho

You are right.
But the seller told me the 800 is there.
And now I know there is not a 800.
But here in the netherlands the provider also uses the 1800,but only in the big cities.
That's why the phone picks up 4G when I am outside.

yh, most european countries use all 800, 1800, and 2600, depending on region/area/whatnot...
just saying, without 800 capability, and when you happen to have 800 mast outside your area, you might not get signal, especially inside... ofc you can still have lte via 1800 and 2600, provided you are close enough and have a mast nearby, more likely in the cities (lots of data over short ranges)

Still I am happy with the note 5.

I am not saying anything about that
Apart from the obvious things everyone knows about vs the Note 4, it's a great looking piece of kit!
Also, Seller MIGHT have said 800 is there, as in 800MHz B26, but what you'd need in Europe is 800MHz-B20...

I saw it on ebay.
It's 800 B26.
My mistake.
I don't bother.

I read about Samsung region block and we can't put a different SIM respect the SIM of the contry model. Don't you have problem?

Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
It probably has more / less bands than you think. What's posted online doesn't actually reflect much about the actual phone. Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
In your dialer could you please type *#2263# and naivate to Band Selection. Post here what's in WCDMA and LTE.
On the S6 SM-G920I:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 1700, 850, 1900
LTE: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,40

on my N920I I have the following:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 850, 1900
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41
Let me know if you want something else too.
I bought this device to use on AT&T in the USA. So far it is working perfectly.