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Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
Groid said:
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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It does affect the unlocked bootloader people, that is why some people are waiting for the sbf. If you update via the OTA, it will install the new bootloader, regardless of lock status. Once on this new 4.4.2 bootloader, it is impossible to flash any stock images before 4.4.2 (you cannot go back to 4.4 or 4.4.2).
But why would you want to go back if you have an unlocked bootloader already? I don't really see any reason to flash an image that is earlier than the latest... if I were Moto, I would let people flash the earliest system image of that version of android (4.4 kitkat in our case). This would rectify the root situation (because 4.2.2 isn't kitkat), and it would keep the people happy as well.
varxx said:
Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
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You absolutely can manually flash the system image while having the 4.4 bootloader, you can also flash any 4.4.2 stock based ROM such as the 1052 European ROM that showed up today.
I was actually running the gummy ROM 4.4.2 while still on the 4.4 bootloader without any issue
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
I just unlocked my bootloader via the "chinese" unlock code...How to I get back to 100% stock after having been rooted via SlapMyMoto?
As I understand, the slapmymoto method replaces the recovery. Can I just flash the stock recovery back over it? Should I SFB back to 4.2.2 post camera then OTA back to 4.4?
JJHunterx said:
I just unlocked my bootloader via the "chinese" unlock code...How to I get back to 100% stock after having been rooted via SlapMyMoto?
As I understand, the slapmymoto method replaces the recovery. Can I just flash the stock recovery back over it? Should I SFB back to 4.2.2 post camera then OTA back to 4.4?
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Full restore to stock would be to SBF back to appropriate version.
To just flash a recovery, simply download one, move it to ADB folder then run
Code:
fastboot flash recovery nameofyourfile.zip
asuhoops8628 said:
Full restore to stock would be to SBF back to appropriate version.
To just flash a recovery, simply download one, move it to ADB folder then run
Code:
fastboot flash recovery nameofyourfile.zip
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If I SBF back to 4.2.2 will that flash the stock recovery and allow me to OTA to 4.4 no problem?
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If I SBF back to 4.2.2 will that flash the stock recovery and allow me to OTA to 4.4 no problem?
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Yes, if you use RSDLite to flash a SBF you are flashing the full stock rom, recovery, boot, etc.
If you want to be on stock 4.4, why not just use RSDLite to flash the 4.4. SBF?
KidJoe said:
Yes, if you use RSDLite to flash a SBF you are flashing the full stock rom, recovery, boot, etc.
If you want to be on stock 4.4, why not just use RSDLite to flash the 4.4. SBF?
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For some reason, I didn't think 4.4 had a SBF...Found it. Thanks.
I am rooted 4.4 and got an unlock code.
Seems like the most straightforward method to get to fully rooted (with r/w) on 4.4.2 would be to SBF 4.4 to return to full stock. Take the OTA to 4.4.2, then unlock.
Is there a way to root without a custom recovery? I was under the impression that it was much more simple with an unlocked bootloader. The guides I've seen for installing TWRP are certainly much more simple than the SlapMyMoto process, but I thought it was as simple as just installing SuperSU or putting the APK in /system or something. I guess I was mistaken on that part.
Thanks!
fury683 said:
I am rooted 4.4 and got an unlock code.
Seems like the most straightforward method to get to fully rooted (with r/w) on 4.4.2 would be to SBF 4.4 to return to full stock. Take the OTA to 4.4.2, then unlock.
Is there a way to root without a custom recovery? I was under the impression that it was much more simple with an unlocked bootloader. The guides I've seen for installing TWRP are certainly much more simple than the SlapMyMoto process, but I thought it was as simple as just installing SuperSU or putting the APK in /system or something. I guess I was mistaken on that part.
Thanks!
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You can unlock your BL regardless of what version of android you are on. I just wanted to get back to stock so slapmymoto was no longer active (which is kinda a workaround for root imho, but it works and does its job.)
To root with an unlocked bootloader, all you have to do is download the TWRP img file and the supersu.zip file. Push the supersu.zip to your SD card. Use fastboot to flash TWRP img file. Boot into the recovery you just flashed and install the supersu.zip file. Bam you're rooted.
fury683 said:
I am rooted 4.4 and got an unlock code.
Seems like the most straightforward method to get to fully rooted (with r/w) on 4.4.2 would be to SBF 4.4 to return to full stock. Take the OTA to 4.4.2, then unlock.
Is there a way to root without a custom recovery? I was under the impression that it was much more simple with an unlocked bootloader. The guides I've seen for installing TWRP are certainly much more simple than the SlapMyMoto process, but I thought it was as simple as just installing SuperSU or putting the APK in /system or something. I guess I was mistaken on that part.
Thanks!
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Well, you can unlock your bootloader at any time once you have the unlock code. The Android version on your phone doesn't matter.
Flashing TWRP, booting to it and installing SuperSU is how you root with an unlocked bootloader. (for full details see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 which makes it seem like a longer process than it is.) That process is as easy as it gets, and works no matter what ROM you are on.
If you want to be on 4.4.2, and going to use RSDLite to flash an SBF anyway, the most straight forward way would be to flash the 4.4.2 SBF, then Root by flashing TWRP, booting to it, and installing SuperSU.
KidJoe said:
Well, you can unlock your bootloader at any time once you have the unlock code. The Android version on your phone doesn't matter.
Flashing TWRP, booting to it and installing SuperSU is how you root with an unlocked bootloader. (for full details see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 which makes it seem like a longer process than it is.) That process is as easy as it gets, and works no matter what ROM you are on.
If you want to be on 4.4.2, and going to use RSDLite to flash an SBF anyway, the most straight forward way would be to flash the 4.4.2 SBF, then Root by flashing TWRP, booting to it, and installing SuperSU.
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Thanks. Can I SBF with 4.4.2 even thought I'm still on 4.4? Or do I need to do 4.4 SBF, OTA to 4.4.2 then unlock and do TWRP/root?
Thanks again.
fury683 said:
Thanks. Can I SBF with 4.4.2 even thought I'm still on 4.4? Or do I need to do 4.4 SBF, OTA to 4.4.2 then unlock and do TWRP/root?
Thanks again.
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No matter what rom is on your phone right now, if you have the bootloader unlock code, you can unlock. You don't have to be on a special version to unlock your phone's bootloader once you have the code.
The OTA's are incremental updates. They require pre-requisites be in place or they fail. You must be on a specific previous ROM, and "step up." They check for specific files/version/check sums to be on your phone before they install. If your phone doesn't match the version the OTA is looking for, or a particular file on your phone doesn't match what the OTA is looking for, the OTA will fail. To put it another way... to take the 4.4.2 OTA, your phone needs to be on 4.4. To take the 4.4 OTA, your phone needs to be on the 4.2.2 w/camera fix version. To take the 4.2.2 w/camera fix OTA, your phone needs to be on the initial shipping ROM version.
SBF's are complete roms containing every file/partition/modem for that version. You can flash the 4.4.2 SBF directly over any other ROM version. It wont stop you.
Just remember when flashing an SBF, there is a line in the XML that RSDLite uses that controls whether it wipes your data or not when flashing. (The thread about returning to stock using RSDlite explains it.) BUT since the process of unlocking your bootloader will factory reset your phone which wipes the data anyway...RSDLite erasing your data isn't a problem if you do it right before or right after you unlock your bootloader.
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No matter what rom is on your phone right now, if you have the bootloader unlock code, you can unlock. You don't have to be on a special version to unlock your phone's bootloader once you have the code.
The OTA's are incremental updates. They require pre-requisites be in place or they fail. You must be on a specific previous ROM, and "step up." They check for specific files/version/check sums to be on your phone before they install. If your phone doesn't match the version the OTA is looking for, or a particular file on your phone doesn't match what the OTA is looking for, the OTA will fail. To put it another way... to take the 4.4.2 OTA, your phone needs to be on 4.4. To take the 4.4 OTA, your phone needs to be on the 4.2.2 w/camera fix version. To take the 4.2.2 w/camera fix OTA, your phone needs to be on the initial shipping ROM version.
SBF's are complete roms containing every file/partition/modem for that version. You can flash the 4.4.2 SBF directly over any other ROM version. It wont stop you.
Just remember when flashing an SBF, there is a line in the XML that RSDLite uses that controls whether it wipes your data or not when flashing. (The thread about returning to stock using RSDlite explains it.) BUT since the process of unlocking your bootloader will factory reset your phone which wipes the data anyway...RSDLite erasing your data isn't a problem if you do it right before or right after you unlock your bootloader.
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After unlocking though, flashing the system.img from an SBF file and a custom recovery brings you basically back to "stock" (excluding the custom recovery) so you don't have to use RSDLite, correct?
EvanVanVan said:
After unlocking though, flashing the system.img from an SBF file and a custom recovery brings you basically back to "stock" (excluding the custom recovery) so you don't have to use RSDLite, correct?
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For the most part, you can use mfastboot to flash just system.img and recovery.img, this will get those two parts back to stock, which is often enough to allow you to take an OTA update, however, if you've touched any other part, your phone wont be 100% stock. And then, how long does it take for the OTA to install and reboot? Now, in fury683's case, the phone is on 4.4 and he wants to go to 4.4.2. But if the phone was on say either of the 4.2.2 versions and he wanted to go to 4.4.2, then you'd also have multiple OTA's to install.
Using the full SBF and RSDlite will flash all parts, gets you to 100% stock, and immediately on the version you want. I don't know everything that SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo touch, so I can't say for sure if flashing system and recovery are enough to totally remove them, or just remove enough to allow you to take an OTA.
System.img takes the longest to flash via either mFastboot or RSDLite, the rest are really quick, so the time spent using RSDLite to flash everything isn't that much more than manually flashing just system.img and recovery.img via mfastboot.
So considering that the mfastboot oem unlock does a factory reset anyway (so data is going to be lost), and flashing with RSDlite flashes all parts as 1 batched operation (i.e. you don't have to individually execute mfastboot lines...) using RSDLite can get you to the final destination, and ensure 100% stock, more easily.
I did mine last night from 4.4. I unlocked, got a clean 4.4 , took ota, flash twrp, install su. If you do in the right order shouldn't take more than 30 mins to be up and running again. If you use Titanium backup be sure to pull your files to computer before doing the bootloader unlock.
KidJoe said:
No matter what rom is on your phone right now, if you have the bootloader unlock code, you can unlock. You don't have to be on a special version to unlock your phone's bootloader once you have the code.
The OTA's are incremental updates. They require pre-requisites be in place or they fail. You must be on a specific previous ROM, and "step up." They check for specific files/version/check sums to be on your phone before they install. If your phone doesn't match the version the OTA is looking for, or a particular file on your phone doesn't match what the OTA is looking for, the OTA will fail. To put it another way... to take the 4.4.2 OTA, your phone needs to be on 4.4. To take the 4.4 OTA, your phone needs to be on the 4.2.2 w/camera fix version. To take the 4.2.2 w/camera fix OTA, your phone needs to be on the initial shipping ROM version.
SBF's are complete roms containing every file/partition/modem for that version. You can flash the 4.4.2 SBF directly over any other ROM version. It wont stop you.
Just remember when flashing an SBF, there is a line in the XML that RSDLite uses that controls whether it wipes your data or not when flashing. (The thread about returning to stock using RSDlite explains it.) BUT since the process of unlocking your bootloader will factory reset your phone which wipes the data anyway...RSDLite erasing your data isn't a problem if you do it right before or right after you unlock your bootloader.
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Thanks for your help. The process was much less painful than I expected. Aside from downloading the SBF file, whole process to SBF, unlock, flash TWRP and root took about 20 minutes.
Working great now!
Thanks again
I'm slightly confused on how I would downgrade to the official GB retail 4.4.4 ROM, is it as simple as flashing it on the recovery? or will I have to do it via ADB fastboot? If so, how would I go about doing that?
My bootloader is 30.B7, which I have read to be the correct one for 4.4.4, I'm just confused on the method to use.
I want to go back to 4.4.4 so I can prepare for the official update which, with the recent soak tests, seems pretty imminent.
Thanks in advance!
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XNxZ2OcfKtdDROTk5kb21ObU0/edit?usp=docslist_api
Download this file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
Then follw the steps mentioned in the above post.
pinhead97 said:
I'm slightly confused on how I would downgrade to the official GB retail 4.4.4 ROM, is it as simple as flashing it on the recovery? or will I have to do it via ADB fastboot? If so, how would I go about doing that?
My bootloader is 30.B7, which I have read to be the correct one for 4.4.4, I'm just confused on the method to use.
I want to go back to 4.4.4 so I can prepare for the official update which, with the recent soak tests, seems pretty imminent.
Thanks in advance!
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Good job checking your bootloader, I think your not as confused as your think
CM12 doesn't upgrade your phone like an official update does, it only messes with the system and as such going back to 4.4.4 does not require downgrading GPT.bin or MOTOBOOT.img
If you have a backup of your stock system, or a 4.4.4 rom you can just flash it from recovery. If you didn't make a backup, you will have to find one that works with your phone or you can just reflash the sbf with fastboot ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515 )
scryan said:
Good job checking your bootloader, I think your not as confused as your think
CM12 doesn't upgrade your phone like an official update does, it only messes with the system and as such going back to 4.4.4 does not require downgrading GPT.bin or MOTOBOOT.img
If you have a backup of your stock system, or a 4.4.4 rom you can just flash it from recovery. If you didn't make a backup, you will have to find one that works with your phone or you can just reflash the sbf with fastboot ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515 )
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Cheers man, this has helped a lot
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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there is a high risk of bricking your device while downgrading http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
It's highly risky to downgrade but if you persist just make sure your bootloader and partition table is not the one that got upgtaded with the latest 5.1 rom. If it is the latest then don't do it.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
ong14 said:
You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
md07 said:
My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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Do you use fastening to flash fw? And you flash all part inside fw? Include motorboat and got... ? After flash, do you make unlock network again ?
I used mfastboot to flash all CGs to my phone. But you may try to skip some CGs like KidJoe said.
Every time when you return to stock or do a hard reset, you have to do the SIM-unlock process again.
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
KidJoe said:
Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
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Yea i think i will wait for the full sbf 5.1 for verizon, i dont want to take the chance.
Thank you all for your help when the 5.1 update will come to the verizon you think?
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
Question:
To upgrade to 5.1 do I just need to revert back to stock boot loader and do an OTA update?
Will the OTA re-lock my boot loader?
After the upgrade to 5.1 do I just reload TWRP recovery and flash SU for root access again?
No the new updates do not relock the bootloader. I suggest you first try out the Lollipop by flashing it through latest version of TWRP. If you think you can live with it than just flash complete stock through rsdlite or manually by fastboot. Reason I say that is because once you take the OTA it will update both bootloader version and the partition tables which means you won't be able to revert back to a lower Android version without the risk of bricking your device.
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bushako said:
No the new updates do not relock the bootloader. I suggest you first try out the Lollipop by flashing it through latest version of TWRP. If you think you can live with it than just flash complete stock through rsdlite or manually by fastboot. Reason I say that is because once you take the OTA it will update both bootloader version and the partition tables which means you won't be able to revert back to a lower Android version without the risk of bricking your device.
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I don't want to go back to complete stock, I want to keep bootloader unlocked and root. Is there a stock rooted rom out there I can flash w/ TWRP without having to do OTA or flashing the recovery back to stock?
Yes there is its in the development section. You'll read the thread something like xt1053 stock flash-able. It contains only the kernel and system files so you should be good.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
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-RanZ- said:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
Question:
To upgrade to 5.1 do I just need to revert back to stock boot loader and do an OTA update?
Will the OTA re-lock my boot loader?
After the upgrade to 5.1 do I just reload TWRP recovery and flash SU for root access again?
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First off, there is no Verizon 5.1 yet. So any 5.1 you try will be for a different model, and if you flash a full rom, it will have different radios (which don't work for CDMA that Verizon still uses for voice/3g data. If you keep your stock VZW radio files, keep in mind they will be on a different version than the rest of the rom which could cause some inconsistencies and issues. IF you do flash a FULL SBF, you will be stuck with no SAFE way to revert to 4.4.4 due to GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img (for more on this, see the link in my signature), and you'll have to wait for the Verizon 5.1 SBF to get back to Verizon's rom.
Next, to install an OTA update, when it becomes available, you need STOCK RECOVERY on your phone. The OTA also does a pre-flash check/validation of your phone before it flashes, so if anything it looks for is not what it expects, the OTA will fail. Because of that you need to be 100% stock, or very near to it.
Finally, NO, an OTA will not relock your bootloader, nor will flashing an SBF.
For more on taking an OTA, see the link in my signature on OTA Updates..
That being said, if you TRY a 5.1 rom that is out there for another model you best bet is to find one that is a TWRP back up of 5.1 installed on someone's phone, since it only updates system.img and boot.img. It may not work 100% (because part of your phone will still have the 4.4.4 files), but it will give you a taste and you could later revert back to the stock 4.4.4 which you currently have on your phone. IF you flash a FULL SBF, you might be stuck with no way to revert to 4.4.4 due to GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img (for more on this, see the link in my signature)
Hi Bushako, I've Moto X Verizon XT1060 and it's struck in 4.2.2 android. When I try to update using setting, about phone and system update it show there is no update available but the android version on it is 4.2.2
5.1 is available for Verizon Moto X 1st gen now isn't it? I am googling for a detailed process on how to update from 4.2.2 to 5.1 and keeping root but not having any luck finding anything. Is it easy to update from 4.2.2 stock rooted to 5.1? The specs of my phone are the same as the original post:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
-RanZ- said:
5.1 is available for Verizon Moto X 1st gen now isn't it? I am googling for a detailed process on how to update from 4.2.2 to 5.1 and keeping root but not having any luck finding anything. Is it easy to update from 4.2.2 stock rooted to 5.1? The specs of my phone are the same as the original post:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
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Aug 1, when I last posted in this thread, Verizon 5.1 wasn't available. It is now.
As for updating and keeping root, there are a few ways to do it. Since you say your Bootloader is unlocked, the best way is flash 5.1 SBF, and use the process of flashing TWRP and SuperSU to root and have Write protection Disabled (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217 ). If you're bootloader isn't unlocked yet, and if you are on 4.4.2 or lower and have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4 or 5.1, use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader FIRST
If you're bootloader isn't unlocked, there is only one way to root 5.1, but it doesn't disable write protection, and its risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
KidJoe said:
Aug 1, when I last posted in this thread, Verizon 5.1 wasn't available. It is now.
As for updating and keeping root, there are a few ways to do it. Since you say your Bootloader is unlocked, the best way is flash 5.1 SBF, and use the process of flashing TWRP and SuperSU to root and have Write protection Disabled (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217 ). If you're bootloader isn't unlocked yet, and if you are on 4.4.2 or lower and have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4 or 5.1, use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader FIRST
If you're bootloader isn't unlocked, there is only one way to root 5.1, but it doesn't disable write protection, and its risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
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Bootloader is unlocked, I get the warning every time I restart the phone.
Where can I find the SBF files? Every post I find from a search the links do not work.
Are the SBF files stock or from someone else's phone?
Do I flash the files with my currently installed TWRP?
When I flash the SBF does it remove TWRP so I have to re flash it?
Are there any radio upgrades/do they get done w/ the SBF?
Sorry if these are basic questions, I have not done much phone rooting since my old HTC Incredible.
-RanZ- said:
Bootloader is unlocked, I get the warning every time I restart the phone.
Where can I find the SBF files? Every post I find from a search the links do not work.
Are the SBF files stock or from someone else's phone?
Do I flash the files with my currently installed TWRP?
When I flash the SBF does it remove TWRP so I have to re flash it?
Are there any radio upgrades/do they get done w/ the SBF?
Sorry if these are basic questions, I have not done much phone rooting since my old HTC Incredible.
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There is a link in my signature to a thread containing the known places that were hosting the SBF/FXZ files. That is the only place I can suggest you look.
SBF/FXZ files I'm taking about are stock, and digitally signed by Motorola. They can be flashed on phones with locked or unlocked bootloaders. NOTE: make sure you get the SBF for your device model and carrier!!
You flash these via Mfastboot or RSDLite. When using these tools you are flashing back to stock. After you get the SBF file, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 and read the REQUIREMENTS section, and pick either Option 3, 4 or 5 to actually flash (only use one option. which ever you find the easiest. Do NOT use Option 1 or 2 as they would not apply to your situation). I usually recommend option 5.
Yes, the process of flashing the entire SBF will overwrite TWRP with stock recovery. You'll need to flash it later as part of the rooting process.
Yes there are radio updates in the newer SBF files.
So basically, you flash to stock 5.1 by using the SBF files (following the requirements and ONE of the options in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 again,I usually recommend option 5), then root by following http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217
One other tip... Make a back up of your phone BEFORE YOU FLASH. copy all data from the /sdcard area to your PC, make a list of all your apps, etc. And seriously consider erasing your UserData while flashing (wipes the phone clear), or doing a factory reset before you flash.
I only say this because 5.1 seems more stable (and less buggy) if a factory reset is done before/during the upgrade process.
EDIT: The 5.1 SBF file you want for a Verizon XT1060 is GHOST_VERIZON_5.1_LPA23.12-39.7_cid2_CFC.xml.zip and is available from -> http://motofirmware.center/files/category/11-moto-x-1st-generation/
KidJoe said:
There is a link in my signature to a thread containing the known places that were hosting the SBF/FXZ files. That is the only place I can suggest you look.
SBF/FXZ files I'm taking about are stock, and digitally signed by Motorola. They can be flashed on phones with locked or unlocked bootloaders. NOTE: make sure you get the SBF for your device model and carrier!!
You flash these via Mfastboot or RSDLite. When using these tools you are flashing back to stock. After you get the SBF file, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 and read the REQUIREMENTS section, and pick either Option 3, 4 or 5 to actually flash (only use one option. which ever you find the easiest. Do NOT use Option 1 or 2 as they would not apply to your situation). I usually recommend option 5.
Yes, the process of flashing the entire SBF will overwrite TWRP with stock recovery. You'll need to flash it later as part of the rooting process.
Yes there are radio updates in the newer SBF files.
So basically, you flash to stock 5.1 by using the SBF files (following the requirements and ONE of the options in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 again,I usually recommend option 5), then root by following http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217
One other tip... Make a back up of your phone BEFORE YOU FLASH. copy all data from the /sdcard area to your PC, make a list of all your apps, etc. And seriously consider erasing your UserData while flashing (wipes the phone clear), or doing a factory reset before you flash.
I only say this because 5.1 seems more stable (and less buggy) if a factory reset is done before/during the upgrade process.
EDIT: The 5.1 SBF file you want for a Verizon XT1060 is GHOST_VERIZON_5.1_LPA23.12-39.7_cid2_CFC.xml.zip and is available from -> http://motofirmware.center/files/category/11-moto-x-1st-generation/
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I will give this a try if I can locate the correct SBF files, your information has helped greatly, Thanks!
nevermind, google fixed me.