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hi guys. ive been thru every post in darch latest and previous threads, and no real confirmation as to what my problem is. i promise you tho, if someone has suggested it in those threads, i have tried it. from rebooting at the end of a full charge to recalibrating my battery. nothing is helping, and while it wasnt an isse before, tomaro i am going to soaring eagle (casino) and desperatly need the fix[xxx]
in darch previous build, he posted a vattery fix that blew mymind. i didnt think it was physically possible to get that many hours out of such heavy usage, but whatever he did, it worked. i was hoping someone can really help me out on this one...do you think someone could take a look at what his fixxxxxxxxxxxxx consisted of, and encorporate it into this current build? i would appreciate it so much, if i hit the big numbers tomaro, i will gladly paypal you any number of money in return!
Like you've been told in the main thread, all of those battery fix/x/x/xes have been incorporated into the current build already. Because you are the only person experiencing these issues (As far as I can tell) then it comes down to something that you're doing.
Go to Settings -> Spare Parts -> Battery History and then change the top drop down menu to "Partial wake usage" and post if any of the bars are full.
Also, did you flash after a total wipe, or did you flash over 2.6.5?
Do you overclock or use Autokiller?
What apps and widgets do you use? (List them ALL)
I have plenty of apps and several widgets on my phone and I'm still pulling at least ~25 hours of heavy use. I sent ~300 texts, did some web surfing, and made three phone calls (well, five... but three of length) and I'm sitting easy at 57% after a good 16 hours.
like it took me 100 times to get an answer to, theres no way that battery fix is in this current build. i went through 2 whole days with those fixxes, and mt battery life does not compare. and if darch tried to encorporate it, he broke it whille fixing gps or mms. its not working for me, im not a noob, i know how to flash and follow proper troubleshooting procedures.
i dont mess with overclock, i leave it set at 710. i wont report my location to an app that doesnt require it to function, so no autokiller
the only apps im using are launcherpro and fancy widget
hostileenviroment said:
i dont mess with overclock, i leave it set at 710. i wont report my location to an app that doesnt require it to function, so no autokiller
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Do you use an overclock widget or do you just let the kernel do the frequency scaling? What shows up under Settings > Spare Parts > Battery history > Partial Wake Usage?
Autokiller no longer requires location..just saying.
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comintern said:
Do you use an overclock widget or do you just let the kernel do the frequency scaling? What shows up under Settings > Spare Parts > Battery history > Partial Wake Usage?
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i just let the kernal do its dirty work. are there some oc settings that might help preserve battery?
it says android, media, music, facebook, dialr and google in sp. i can only see some blue in android, and media, the rest are all grey..
just left for soaring eagle. any input wold be grrrreat
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Autokiller no longer requires location..just saying.
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oh really? thanks man, i didnt know. guess the devdloper flt the pressure lol
I wasn't calling you a noob... :/
What is your signal strength on darchdroid? THAT is a problem that a lot of people are having. Bad signal strength = bad battery life. (Also, I want dBm, not bars)
I still think blaming darch for this when you are [now] one of two people with this problem is a little... absurd. There are tons of people running this ROM.
I'm having pretty crappy battery life too. My phone seems to sleep fine and doesn't drain when not in use. Nothing bizarre in spare parts. It's when I'm using it that it the the battery seems to abnormally plunge.
I wiped before flashing.
Not using any OC apps.
No autokiller or similar apps.
I restored all my apps with titanium backup.
I dunno.
My signal strength fluctuates anywhere from -89 dBM to -94 dBm at the location I spend most of my day at.
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I wasn't calling you a noob... :/
What is your signal strength on darchdroid? THAT is a problem that a lot of people are having. Bad signal strength = bad battery life. (Also, I want dBm, not bars)
I still think blaming darch for this when you are [now] one of two people with this problem is a little... absurd. There are tons of people running this ROM.
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apologies. your first post seemed a little condesending.
i actually get better signal w dd. 74dbms. a little ironic huh lol
i updated my recovery, wiped everything twice, and reflashed. installed NOTHING and its till draining. im going in for a redownload.
i think their are plenty of ppl with the battery issue...ppl who dont care tho, or dont know, or just havent posted
thanls for your help devin, i appreciate it. so whats the next step?
My battery issue is documented, I barely get 8 or 9 hours
Unplugged at 10AM this morning, it's 2:10PM now and I'm at 46%. Heavy usage, on the internet for probably an hour and a half atleast. I thought this was normal battery usage because it's all I've ever gotten. Doesn't bother me because I carry around an extra battery for a total of 16 hours battery life, and I have a third battery if I intend to go for a while without a charger
EDIT: Signal is -88 and is usually always around that point.
i was using the latest radio from flipz (2.42.blahblah) and my signal was hovering around -95 dbm, just flashed the old stock radio and it's up to -75ish dbm
So what's better -95 or lower (example -75)
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So what's better -95 or lower (example -75)
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Higher (closer to 0) is better, so -75dBM is better than -95dBM. -70dBM or better should be full bars. -100dBM should be the worst signal that displays 1 bar (if it displayed right). One thing you might try is pulling the radio interface library from DamageControl and push it out to /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so. I think Darch uses an older version.
my phone is draining like water between my fingers. if i post a logcat, will that help?
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Like you've been told in the main thread, all of those battery fix/x/x/xes have been incorporated into the current build already.
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By this do you mean that the always on mobile setting is disabled by default. That setting alone has doubled my battery life on other phones. Also, for those with lower signal, consider disabling the "Use wireless networks" setting under location. With low signal it can cause more battery usage than GPS. Devs that think they are helping by trying to use wireless signals for location are actually hurting. A big one that comes to mind is Locale. I have written the dev once and about to write again. They turn on wireless all the time to try and use it for location and they don't turn it off after. Even when my current conditions in locale specifically say to turn wifi off.
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apologies. your first post seemed a little condesending.
i actually get better signal w dd. 74dbms. a little ironic huh lol
i updated my recovery, wiped everything twice, and reflashed. installed NOTHING and its till draining. im going in for a redownload.
i think their are plenty of ppl with the battery issue...ppl who dont care tho, or dont know, or just havent posted
thanls for your help devin, i appreciate it. so whats the next step?
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Do you have GPS always turned on? I only turn it on when I'm using it.
Have you removed apps that you don't use? I've created a .bat that automatically removes all the stuff I don't use (Livewallpapers.apk, for example), pushes my current ringtones to system storage (it's faster, more battery efficient) and then reboots the phone.
Do you have autobrightness on? I have my brightness stay at a low-ish setting (still visible mostly everywhere, though) because I noticed the light sensor was being a little wacky.
What baseband and PRL do you have?
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my phone is draining like water between my fingers. if i post a logcat, will that help?
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A logcat may be useful to people who know more about the jargon that those spit out. I've solved a couple of my own problems by looking through them, but I knew what I was looking for. I wouldn't know what to look for in this circumstance.
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By this do you mean that the always on mobile setting is disabled by default. That setting alone has doubled my battery life on other phones. Also, for those with lower signal, consider disabling the "Use wireless networks" setting under location. With low signal it can cause more battery usage than GPS. Devs that think they are helping by trying to use wireless signals for location are actually hurting. A big one that comes to mind is Locale. I have written the dev once and about to write again. They turn on wireless all the time to try and use it for location and they don't turn it off after. Even when my current conditions in locale specifically say to turn wifi off.
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Mobile Network Always On is just default on this ROM. I've yet to find a setting for it. However, I found an app (Well, gomorrah pointed it out to me) that allows the data network to be turned off. It's called SwitchPro and it costs $.99 and it's well worth it.
I leave the network location on, but that really depends on your location. I've never had a problem with it.
The batteryfix/x/x/xes that I mentioned fixed a wakelock issue that happened in 2.6.2(?). Ever since then, the fixes were incorporated into the ROM. That doesn't mean that new problems could have arisen, but that those problems are patched. It doesn't seem to be a wakelock issue like it was in the past.
What I recommend to everyone is to follow the standard bug-reporting procedures detailed in the first post for the ROM. If there really is a bug, darch should be able to nail it.
And one last thing; can everyone with battery problems do this for me and post their results:
Code:
adb shell
top -m 5 -n 1
(If you could run it a few times over, say, 15 minutes, using the phone as you normally would, this could cause something to show up)
I know what my cause is... I have very poor signal at work and it spends all day just trying to squeeze out enough signal to get emails and sms. Disabling always on mobile has doubled the battery life of my phone and every other person that has said they tried it and has no side-effects that I have found. I am new to Darchdroid. Does Darch have a bug management system or a process to manage bugs/feature requests?
Anyone notice a change in their battery life in the past few days? My girlfriend and I both are going through our batteries in just over half a day with no use. It's like the phone isn't sleeping. Looking at battery use Display is using all of the battery. I'm running CM7.0.3 and she's on stock. Looking at mine right now the phone has been on battery for 1 hour 34 minutes, and Display is taking 57% of the battery and I'm down to 84% battery.
Yes! I've had my N1 since January 2010. I stayed stock until recently when I installed CM 7.1 RC1 shortly after it was released. Battery life had always been great, both stock and under CM7, especially with SS4N1. Then, a few days ago it just fell off a cliff. I now get only about 7-8 hours, even with little to no usage. Before I'd barely lose anything if the phone wasn't being used (a percent every couple hours).
Now the Nexus One Battery Calibrator application shows a drain of ~200 mA or more constantly.
I've been tearing my hair out for the last few days, uninstalling apps right and left, trying in vain to figure out what's causing this. I even considered a full wipe and reinstall of CM 7, thinking that some system setting somewhere had gotten horked.
I've always had WiFi set to never sleep, since I'm usually either at work or home. I've also had preferred network type (*#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Info) set to "GSM auto (PRL)" for months.
I've not made any other changes I can think of that would've had such a drastic impact on power consumption. I didn't track all the app updates that happened around the time it started, so I suppose it could be one of those. But I've uninstalled just about everything and it's still happening.
I have the same issue! Just in the past week or so. I have about 50% battery then a hour or so later it's dead! I was going to get a new battery today but maybe it's a CM7 issue. I use the nightly as soon as they hit the mirror.
An update on this... There may be a big issue going on with T-Mobile or some recent update:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/t-mobile-g2-users-suddenly-suffering-from-huge-battery-loss/
Looks like other users on different phones have the same issue!
Thanks for that article, Lost Dog. Makes me feel a bit better. At least I know I'm not just going nuts.
My phone still has increased battery drain even if I put it in airplane mode though. It helps, but it's still much faster than before. This makes me really puzzled as to what the cause could be. How could the cell network still be causing increased drain if the phone's completely disconnected from it? Some sort of configuration information it received that persists even after the cell radio is turned off? EDIT: I may be wrong on this one, see below.
Last night I tried a complete wipe (using Temasek's full format "Format-signed.zip" first), and re-installed CM7.1 RC1 completely fresh. I installed only the minimal Google applications and a couple crucial tools (my password safe app). However, I'm still getting the same quick battery drain today.
I hope we (or T-Moblie) can figure out how to fix this. It really cripples my phone as a useful tool to have such short life!
EDIT: I'm going to try a workaround I've seen mentioned in comments on the TMoNews and Phandroid articles about this: limiting the cellular connection to 2G/EDGE only. It seems to have made a significant difference so far. I may have been incorrect then about airplane mode not having an impact. I'd only been checking current drain with the N1 Battery Calibrator app, and never left it in airplane mode for long. Anyway, I'll post back later this afternoon with results.
Ok, so switching to 2G-only for the cellular connection seems to have made a HUGE difference. The drain rate seems to be back at around what I'd expect. Everything else I left exactly the same (WiFi on, GPS enabled, same applications, etc.)
So, I'm starting to suspect something may be up with T-Mobile's 3G/3G+ service in some areas that's preventing phones from idling properly.
Anyone else want to give it a try?
Interesting, I'll switch over to 2G only and see how that affects my phone.
I've gone as far as wiping everything and that didn't help so if it really is a t-mobile issue then that would shed some light on the situation.
I see the same trend when switching to 2G only. Very steep power usage with 3G then a dramatic decrease in the discharge slope in 2G.
T-Mobile has an issue. The trick will be getting someone there to listen.
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Here is my screenshot. You can clearly see when I turned on 3G. Dramatic difference. Looking on the T-Mobile forum there are many people seeing the same issue but there's mostly finger pointing and speculation as to the cause.
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Anyone notice a change in their battery life in the past few days? My girlfriend and I both are going through our batteries in just over half a day with no use. It's like the phone isn't sleeping. Looking at battery use Display is using all of the battery. I'm running CM7.0.3 and she's on stock. Looking at mine right now the phone has been on battery for 1 hour 34 minutes, and Display is taking 57% of the battery and I'm down to 84% battery.
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I also got the same rapid battery drain since last Wednesday. At that time, I thought there may be a hardware/battery issue for my nexus one. To test this, I switched my rom from CM7 back to GB stock. After a few updates for the GB stock and used it for a day, same battery drain happened. So, I changed to use another backup battery yesterday. It did not help also. I thought it may be a real hardware issue.
Then, I found this thread and research a bit in the web. I found out it could be either caused by tmobile or google map updates. I first uninstall google map and reinstall the new version right from the market again. I also switch off 3G as well. No rapid battery drain for the entire day. The battery runs normally. When I came back home today, I turned on 3G, let it for a couple of hours, checked a couple of emails and received a 20min phone call. Everything seems to work fine. No noticeable rapid battery drain was observed. My conclusion so far is: this is caused by google map 5.8 update.
Try to uninstall it and reinstall the google map from the market to see if it helps.
Good luck.
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I also got the same rapid battery drain since last Wednesday. At that time, I thought there may be a hardware/battery issue for my nexus one. To test this, I switched my rom from CM7 back to GB stock. After a few updates for the GB stock and used it for a day, same battery drain happened. So, I changed to use another backup battery yesterday. It did not help also. I thought it may be a real hardware issue.
Then, I found this thread and research a bit in the web. I found out it could be either caused by tmobile or google map updates. I first uninstall google map and reinstall the new version right from the market again. I also switch off 3G as well. No rapid battery drain for the entire day. The battery runs normally. When I came back home today, I turned on 3G, let it for a couple of hours, checked a couple of emails and received a 20min phone call. Everything seems to work fine. No noticeable rapid battery drain was observed. My conclusion so far is: this is caused by google map 5.8 update.
Try to uninstall it and reinstall the google map from the market to see if it helps.
Good luck.
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Well, I'm willing to give it a try, but I'm skeptical. If it were the Maps 5.8 application that was preventing the phone from idling correctly, or transmitting tons of data, wouldn't we expect it to happen regardless of whether the phone was using the 2G or 3G radio connection? Sure, there might be a slight difference in the drain rate, but we'd still expect to see it in both cases. And yet the accelerated drain is alleviated completely by using only 2G. I have the Maps 5.8 application and can fix the problem by using 2G only. That indicates to me it's not an issue with the application.
I'll try uninstalling Maps tomorrow (I'm using CyanogenMod, so it's possible to remove it completely). Then I'll put the phone back on 3G and report back on what happens.
I've been experiencing similar battery issues the past week or so too. It looks like turning on 2G only seems to fix it, but what I don't get is why I'm still getting horrible battery life?
I have tasker auto turn off my 3G all together whenever my screen is turned off, and yet I leave my phone on my desk untouched all day and I end up at 40% when I get off work.
Wouldn't turning off 3G via Tasker be the same (or close to it) as turning on 2G only in the settings?
Hope t-mobile gets this worked out pretty soon!!
Glad I saw this thread. My wife and I both have N1s and have each been noticing unusually fast battery drain just in the last 3-4 days.
Last night I charged both phones to the same percentage, turned off 3G on hers and let them both sleep for a while. The phones are configured pretty similarly (stock, latest Maps installed, similar push settings etc). After about an hour and a half, my phone had lost 11% of its charge and hers had only lost 2%. That's enough of a delta for me to point to the 3G usage as the culprit. I guess I will be leaving my phone on 2G when I'm not using it if I am going to be away from a charger for a while.
It's NOT the Google Maps update.
Well, I did my experiment yesterday to rule out the Google Maps 5.8 update as the cause of this issue.
I'm running CyanogenMod so it's possible for me to uninstall Google Maps completely, not just the updates. I did so on Saturday night. Still set to 2G only, I removed my phone from the charger Sunday morning. A few hours later I enabled 3G. Later that afternoon I turned 3G off again.
I think the screenshot speaks for itself. Again, this is without Google Maps installed at all.
I asked around this weekend, and my friend's wife (also here in Portland, OR) is experiencing the same issue on her G1 on T-Mobile. Reading online I've heard about the problem affecting the MyTouch 3G, the G2, and many here with the Nexus One. The common elements seem to be: T-Mobile 3G service, particular models of phones, and some particular geographic areas.
Bottom line (IMHO): T-Mobile has a problem with the configuration of their 3G service in some areas, and it's preventing many phones from being able to idle/sleep properly, resulting in huge battery drain.
Here's mine, I posted this several days ago in the TMONEWS thread.
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Here's mine, I posted this several days ago in the TMONEWS thread.
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That's interesting. Even locking the phone to 2G/EDGE didn't have an impact? (not a Nexus One there it appears, what model?)
How did you go about disabling the 3G connection? I'm not sure if there are multiple ways to do it, but I used:
Settings -> Wireless Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Use only 2G networks
Really strange that even pulling the SIM didn't seem to make a difference. Or maybe that's not the same as turning off the cell radio entirely? Perhaps the issue is lower-level, like the radio constantly polling the tower or something even in the absence of being able to successfully register on the network for active use.
Does enabling airplane mode fix the drain issue for you?
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That's interesting. Even locking the phone to 2G/EDGE didn't have an impact? (not a Nexus One there it appears, what model?)
How did you go about disabling the 3G connection? I'm not sure if there are multiple ways to do it, but I used:
Settings -> Wireless Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Use only 2G networks
Really strange that even pulling the SIM didn't seem to make a difference. Or maybe that's not the same as turning off the cell radio entirely? Perhaps the issue is lower-level, like the radio constantly polling the tower or something even in the absence of being able to successfully register on the network for active use.
Does enabling airplane mode fix the drain issue for you?
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This is a G2.
2G has been much better than 3g, but still probably only 3/4 of my former battery life, optimistically. I checked "Use 2g networks only", same as everyone else. The graph above is a little misleading, since I really saw better battery life, that initial flat and quick drop actually averages out to "decent", rather than "horrific.
At the "Pulled SIM and SD card" mark I re-enabled 3g, so the drain afterwards is still 3g related.
Pulling the SIM doesn't disconnect it from the radio tower, you can still make emergency calls/etc. so it has to maintain a connection I suppose.
Twice I hard-reset the phone, pulled out SD and SIM, and still had huge huge battery drain. Powertutor said IDLE draw was 1437mw on average, no SIM, no WIFI, just sitting there on my desk.
In Airplane mode it'll last for days...
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I've been experiencing similar battery issues the past week or so too. It looks like turning on 2G only seems to fix it, but what I don't get is why I'm still getting horrible battery life?
I have tasker auto turn off my 3G all together whenever my screen is turned off, and yet I leave my phone on my desk untouched all day and I end up at 40% when I get off work.
Wouldn't turning off 3G via Tasker be the same (or close to it) as turning on 2G only in the settings?
Hope t-mobile gets this worked out pretty soon!!
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I'm not familiar with Tasker. However, maybe it's just disabling cellular data use, not actually disabling the 3G radio? From what we've seen it appears the problem is very low-level, perhaps something to do with basic communication/negotiation between the cell radio in the phone and the towers, as there's no indication of particular application activity or significant data transmission that the Android OS is aware of.
In the T-Mobile support thread there are reports that T-Mobile is now acknowledging there's an issue with changes to their HSPA+ network in some areas.
I've had 3G off all day and my battery life is back to normal. I'm at 87% after at least 6 hours on battery. Yesterday I was down to less than 50% by this time. Luckily, I am able to be on Wifi at work so I don't have to deal with EDGE speeds, which make the Baby Jesus cry.
deliamber, you probably noticed this already but I'm also in the Portland market. It's gotta be a network issue.
I'm having the same issue on my N1 (I'm around the Portland area myself)
I did everything as well, 2g is the only thing that saves me..
Can't wait for a fix!
Has anyone else had this problem? since upgrading to a 4.3 sense based rom (tried 3 different roms), my battery life has become horrible..i can barely get 2 hours of screen on time whereas i used to get 4+ on 4.2.2 roms.
i know alot of people have said that 4.3 improves battery, but it hasnt for me, its done the opposite.
also has anyone noticed strange heating up of the device? for example in asphalt 8 the device thats slightly hot and then cools down while playing. but in games like candy crush or zynga poker the device continuously gets hotter and hotter..
tips/fixes/stories anyone?
Mine has been really good. Like, 3-4 hours screen time good. When I'm on wifi (N only, G wifi drains a lot) my battery percent just flatlines on the graph until I pick up the phone again. Sounds like a rogue app since I don't have this issue. I run ARHD 20.1.
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Has anyone else had this problem? since upgrading to a 4.3 sense based rom (tried 3 different roms), my battery life has become horrible..i can barely get 2 hours of screen on time whereas i used to get 4+ on 4.2.2 roms.
i know alot of people have said that 4.3 improves battery, but it hasnt for me, its done the opposite.
also has anyone noticed strange heating up of the device? for example in asphalt 8 the device thats slightly hot and then cools down while playing. but in games like candy crush or zynga poker the device continuously gets hotter and hotter..
tips/fixes/stories anyone?
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did you upgrade your firmware to 4.3 ( 3.09.401.1 ) also ?
met few guys who had the same problem and upgrading FW helped.
good luck
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Mine has been really good. Like, 3-4 hours screen time good. When I'm on wifi (N only, G wifi drains a lot) my battery percent just flatlines on the graph until I pick up the phone again. Sounds like a rogue app since I don't have this issue. I run ARHD 20.1.
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I'm running arhd 20.1 aswell. And I would LOVE to see that happen again, my battery drains around 10% overnight, and I'm a really late sleeper, so that means in 5 hours it's lost 10% on standby..and it's weird cause WiFi shuts off after about two hours,so I know that's not causing the problem.
App usage shows android system as the app using the most battery. When I check in the morning it shows android system and kernel to be the top two users.
Could it be a radio problem? I've seen a decrease in signal since ive upgraded to the 4A.17 radio from firmware 2.24.
I'm thinking about flashing the minsense Rom or even a ge rom and see if that helps the problem.
It doesn't seem to be a rogue app cause I actually have less apps then I did on 4.2.2, and none that are new..
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I'm running arhd 20.1 aswell. And I would LOVE to see that happen again, my battery drains around 10% overnight, and I'm a really late sleeper, so that means in 5 hours it's lost 10% on standby..and it's weird cause WiFi shuts off after about two hours,so I know that's not causing the problem.
App usage shows android system as the app using the most battery. When I check in the morning it shows android system and kernel to be the top two users.
Could it be a radio problem? I've seen a decrease in signal since ive upgraded to the 4A.17 radio from firmware 2.24.
I'm thinking about flashing the minsense Rom or even a ge rom and see if that helps the problem.
It doesn't seem to be a rogue app cause I actually have less apps then I did on 4.2.2, and none that are new..
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I'm still running the current T-Mobile firmware, not 3.x. (I'm still S-ON with hboot 1.44) Thought that was worth noting.
Have you tried putting the phone on WCDMA/GSM auto instead? If your LTE signal is weak (or any kind of signal is weak in general) I see this phone's battery life usually take a nose dive. It has so far from my testing saved me a ton of battery to switch the phone manually into GSM only when I'm inside a building at work to get more bars, then switch back to LTE auto when I leave. Try leaving it on overnight on different radio settings, and with and without wifi. It could be a cell radio drain. And btw get GSAM battery monitor, the stock stats don't seem right to me. Android System being high in the HTC battery stats tells you nothing really from what I'm seeing so far.
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I'm still running the current T-Mobile firmware, not 3.x. (I'm still S-ON with hboot 1.44) Thought that was worth noting.
Have you tried putting the phone on WCDMA/GSM auto instead? If your LTE signal is weak (or any kind of signal is weak in general) I see this phone's battery life usually take a nose dive. It has so far from my testing saved me a ton of battery to switch the phone manually into GSM only when I'm inside a building at work to get more bars, then switch back to LTE auto when I leave. Try leaving it on overnight on different radio settings, and with and without wifi. It could be a cell radio drain. And btw get GSAM battery monitor, the stock stats don't seem right to me. Android System being high in the HTC battery stats tells you nothing really from what I'm seeing so far.
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the funny thing is i dont have data, since i get wifi wherever i am. i also think its a radio problem though, my gsm signal never seems to be full, and people constantly tell me on the phone that they cant hear me. so what im doing (right now) is flashing a ge rom, specifically sinless rom, then im going to flash the new ge radio, 4A.18, and see how that plays out, prolly going to flash a 4.3 kernel aswell so i can uc to 162mhz or whatever the value is.
i seriously believe its the radio+lack of kernel on 4.3 sense roms that are causing this problem for me. so once this is all done ill test it for the rest of the day and see how it goes. thanks so much for your help
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I'm running arhd 20.1 aswell. And I would LOVE to see that happen again, my battery drains around 10% overnight, and I'm a really late sleeper, so that means in 5 hours it's lost 10% on standby..and it's weird cause WiFi shuts off after about two hours,so I know that's not causing the problem.
App usage shows android system as the app using the most battery. When I check in the morning it shows android system and kernel to be the top two users.
Could it be a radio problem? I've seen a decrease in signal since ive upgraded to the 4A.17 radio from firmware 2.24.
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If you don't use any apps, of course system uses the most.
You need to check for wakelocks. If you have unexpected battery drain, it's likely that the phone is not sleeping properly, i.e., being kept awake. Betterbatterystats, gsam, wakelock detector etc.
What was the change in signal attenuation, or are you just saying the the display bars are different?
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I'm still running the current T-Mobile firmware, not 3.x. (I'm still S-ON with hboot 1.44) Thought that was worth noting.
Have you tried putting the phone on WCDMA/GSM auto instead? If your LTE signal is weak (or any kind of signal is weak in general) I see this phone's battery life usually take a nose dive. It has so far from my testing saved me a ton of battery to switch the phone manually into GSM only when I'm inside a building at work to get more bars, then switch back to LTE auto when I leave. Try leaving it on overnight on different radio settings, and with and without wifi. It could be a cell radio drain. And btw get GSAM battery monitor, the stock stats don't seem right to me. Android System being high in the HTC battery stats tells you nothing really from what I'm seeing so far.
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If you don't use any apps, of course system uses the most.
You need to check for wakelocks. If you have unexpected battery drain, it's likely that the phone is not sleeping properly, i.e., being kept awake. Betterbatterystats, gsam, wakelock detector etc.
What was the change in signal attenuation, or are you just saying the the display bars are different?
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i use apps, just nothing new compared to when i was on 4.2.2.
and no wakelocks according to gsam, i lost 20% overnight (7 hours)
i dont get what it is. i upgraded the radio to 4.19 now, but for the signal issues, it included lower bars, bad audio in calls, and random loss of wifi.
i removed basically every app, besides some essentials like facebook, whatsapp, and a few others.
i tried switching to an ge rom, but i just cant stay on it for too long, vanilla android is so plain compared to sense.
so the last thing i can think of, is a rom known for its battery life. not asking for a comparison, just your opinion in which rom gives the best battery on 4.3. any suggestions?
Bhavpreet said:
i use apps, just nothing new compared to when i was on 4.2.2.
and no wakelocks according to gsam, i lost 20% overnight (7 hours)
i dont get what it is. i upgraded the radio to 4.19 now, but for the signal issues, it included lower bars, bad audio in calls, and random loss of wifi.
i removed basically every app, besides some essentials like facebook, whatsapp, and a few others.
i tried switching to an ge rom, but i just cant stay on it for too long, vanilla android is so plain compared to sense.
so the last thing i can think of, is a rom known for its battery life. not asking for a comparison, just your opinion in which rom gives the best battery on 4.3. any suggestions?
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Charge your phone up all the way, put it in airplane mode, and unplug it for an hour then don't touch it. Then post your battery percentage. If it isn't still 100 or 99 then you have a more severe problem that actually relates to the battery itself.
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Charge your phone up all the way, put it in airplane mode, and unplug it for an hour then don't touch it. Then post your battery percentage. If it isn't still 100 or 99 then you have a more severe problem that actually relates to the battery itself.
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good idea, testing it now, will report back in an hour.
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Charge your phone up all the way, put it in airplane mode, and unplug it for an hour then don't touch it. Then post your battery percentage. If it isn't still 100 or 99 then you have a more severe problem that actually relates to the battery itself.
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been an hour and 5 minutes, still 100%.
so im guessing it has something to do with the radio?
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been an hour and 5 minutes, still 100%.
so im guessing it has something to do with the radio?
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Show us a graph of your signal strength from GSAM, and show us a screenshot with how many bars you have. At least you know now that the battery is definitely not shot. It is probably mobile data related...hmm did you ever try letting the phone sit with mobile data disabled as well? It should drain almost as minimally as airplane mode.
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Show us a graph of your signal strength from GSAM, and show us a screenshot with how many bars you have. At least you know now that the battery is definitely not shot. It is probably mobile data related...hmm did you ever try letting the phone sit with mobile data disabled as well? It should drain almost as minimally as airplane mode.
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funny thing is, i dont have data..long story.
i just use wifi as its always available basically everywhere i am.
and thanks for all your help so far, helped me eliminate one possible problem
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funny thing is, i dont have data..long story.
i just use wifi as its always available basically everywhere i am.
and thanks for all your help so far, helped me eliminate one possible problem
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So wait, your signal is really good but your phone drains like crazy, and while you're on WiFi? Okay, what wifi router are you using and is it G or N and is it dual band?
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So wait, your signal is really good but your phone drains like crazy, and while you're on WiFi? Okay, what wifi router are you using and is it G or N and is it dual band?
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its absurd i know..its already down to 93% with 9 minutes screen on..
and its a dual band router, im normally connected to the 2.4ghz band, and its with wireless ac, which the one supports. Which is weird cause i thought ac improved battery life..
edit: im an idiot, wireless ac only works on 5ghz bands, but that still doesnt explain the drain on wireless n..as my previous router was also wireless n
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its absurd i know..its already down to 93% with 9 minutes screen on..
and its a dual band router, im normally connected to the 2.4ghz band, and its with wireless ac, which the one supports. Which is weird cause i thought ac improved battery life..
edit: im an idiot, wireless ac only works on 5ghz bands, but that still doesnt explain the drain on wireless n..as my previous router was also wireless n
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Have you tried 5 ghz N by forcing the router or your phone to operate only at N speed? I use a TP-Link dual band N router and I remember seeing s drain of about 4 percent overnight for 8 hours of full idle with full sync.
I have tried with both 2.4ghz n and 5.2ghz ac, same problem persists
Awake is 3x screen on, I don't think that's normal, somethings keeping the phone awake much longer
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Have you tried 5 ghz N by forcing the router or your phone to operate only at N speed? I use a TP-Link dual band N router and I remember seeing s drain of about 4 percent overnight for 8 hours of full idle with full sync.
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so ive done a bunch of other tests, and i can confirm its wifi thats causing this massive drain, not wakelocks, not roms, or anything else.
when the phone is left with wifi on, but not being connected to any network, battery drain is minimal overnight.
its the same on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands, so it this a router problem? if so, do you know any tips that could fix it?
Do you have "Best wifi performance" checked? That seems to eat battery.
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Do you have "Best wifi performance" checked? That seems to eat battery.
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i have no option for best wifi performance, just "wifi optimization". i found the problem, it has something to do with my new router and its bad compatibility with android devices. the phone seems to be awake 2x the screen on time and the main culprit is "wlan_rx_wake" wakelock
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone is experiencing significantly worse battery life since the update. Today I kept my phone in battery saver mode all day, barely used it, stayed mostly in my apartment, and it's down to 15% after 12 hours. I'm pretty disappointed, as I had read that battery life was supposed to actually be marginally improved with 4.3.
Looking at my battery usage, the Android System percentage seems way up from what it used to be, though I might be making this up. Also, some of the apps I used a bit (Facebook, Instagram, whatever) aren't showing up in the usage stats.
I recall that my battery life wasn't so great for the first couple days after I initially got the phone, so I've been hoping that it just needs to re-adjust to my usage, but that hasn't happened yet. Otherwise, any ideas what I might try to fix this?
I've attached some screenshots of my usage. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
Its not just you, I also noticed worse battery life on 4.3.
Your not alone, use a program to monitor battery use ie gsam monitor.I noticed Google services is waking my phone like 220 times in 12 hours. My battery use is up and I'm getting like 9 hours less time because of it.
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Me too! I thought battery life was supposed to be better with this. My phone is getting super hot now and dying fast,
I had similar issues, especially where I work. That place is on a fringe location where it switches 4g and 3g depending on how deep in the store you are. Where I work, I would always have 3g and the phone would get super hot and I'd burn through 50, 60 or more percent battery in 5 hours or so. It was rediculous. This afternoon, I said screw it and did a factory reset (I'm bone stock btw). Tonight, I worked a 7 hour shift and had 4g most of the time (never happened before) and the phone stayed cool to the touch. I lost about 20% battery. Just something you guys might wanna try. I know its a pain in the butt to do, but, at least for me, it seems to have been worth it.
Im running on stock rom, and my battery is much better than before. Maybe it has something to do with the rom?
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Im running on stock rom, and my battery is much better than before. Maybe it has something to do with the rom?
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I'm stock as well. I can try a factory reset, but I'd like to try anything else possible first.
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I'm stock as well. I can try a factory reset, but I'd like to try anything else possible first.
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Do you have an app that would probably keep waking up the phone?
Has anyone tried flashing the older radio over the new firmware? I think the signal is weaker with the new radio. Maybe it's switching back and forth between 2g/3g/4g causing high system usage stats. Can anyone try and report back?
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Has anyone tried flashing the older radio over the new firmware? I think the signal is weaker with the new radio. Maybe it's switching back and forth between 2g/3g/4g causing high system usage stats. Can anyone try and report back?
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I was at home on WiFi for almost the whole day, so I doubt that's the problem, though it's not impossible. I just installed WakeLock Detector a few minutes ago although it's only been running for a sec, so far looks like the Sprint Visual Voicemail app is using CPU wakelock a LOT. Could this be the culprit?
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Has anyone tried flashing the older radio over the new firmware? I think the signal is weaker with the new radio. Maybe it's switching back and forth between 2g/3g/4g causing high system usage stats. Can anyone try and report back?
Sent from my rooted, s-off'd HTC One running Stock 4.3
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I'd buy that, though idk that it explains everything. I generally got good battery life, but I'm lucky enough to get fairly solid 4g at school and home. Work is the only place where it was iffy, and that is also where I had the worst battery life. The signal is not (in my experience) weaker. The bars just reflect data, not voice now, making it seem weaker. The only other weird thing is that the stability of my wifi connections is better than it was before the reset, and that I get 4g at all at work when previously I had to be at the end of the parking lot to get it.
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I was at home on WiFi for almost the whole day, so I doubt that's the problem, though it's not impossible. I just installed WakeLock Detector a few minutes ago although it's only been running for a sec, so far looks like the Sprint Visual Voicemail app is using CPU wakelock a LOT. Could this be the culprit?
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Maybe. Ive also heard that theres a bug in chrome that also wakes your phone. Keep the app running to find out anyways. Ive disabled my visual voicemail since I don't use it myself.
Ever since update my battery is draining crazy. I just woke up and looked at my phone that was plugged in all night. And it's only 44 % charged. WTF!!
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I was at home on WiFi for almost the whole day, so I doubt that's the problem, though it's not impossible. I just installed WakeLock Detector a few minutes ago although it's only been running for a sec, so far looks like the Sprint Visual Voicemail app is using CPU wakelock a LOT. Could this be the culprit?
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I take VVM off my phone, so its not that, at least in my case. I ran system panel yesterday and the top battery consumer is a process called binder_2. Its always that.
To me, turning off 4g made an absurd difference in battery life. There's a bug with 4g for sure. It never reconnects back to 4g for me once it switches to 3g and the drain is just horrible. I literally get 5 times better battery life out of the phone on CDMA only and truly, LTE is not 5 times better. I prefer consistency and better battery life over speed. So I just turned it off.
I read that up there claiming a factory reset eliminated the battery drain. I'll look into it. I just don't want to do a factory reset cause it's too much work.
Mine better! Signal bars lower both wifi & gsm, but... The true result better, I don't know why? Even no wifi signal bars, Internet still works,
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To me, turning off 4g made an absurd difference in battery life. There's a bug with 4g for sure. It never reconnects back to 4g for me once it switches to 3g and the drain is just horrible. I literally get 5 times better battery life out of the phone on CDMA only and truly, LTE is not 5 times better. I prefer consistency and better battery life over speed. So I just turned it off.
I read that up there claiming a factory reset eliminated the battery drain. I'll look into it. I just don't want to do a factory reset cause it's too much work.
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That's very similar to what I had going on. I also had some issues where the phone would tell me x amount of internal storagespace remaining after installing certain apps and the reset (seems to have) fixed that too. If you use an app like Helium backup (no root needed) the reset might be a lot less painful, and I'm almost sure it will help you.
Yeah, I don't think it was actually VVM. I tried to let the WakeLock Detector app run for a while, but it kept causing my phone to restart randomly and I'd lose all the data it had collected, so I just uninstalled it. Looking like a hard reset's in my future. Balls.
No issues with that
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Back on ecliptic 4.2.2, superb battery life is back. I'll get back on the 4.3 bandwagon again when we start getting custom kernels to fix what HTC broke.
Moto x AT&T Using Lollipop 5.1 here, full stock, non rooted, bootloader unlocked.
My cell standby varies between 40% and 70% in battery usage.
At home I do have a poor signal (1-3 bars), but at work (where I spend about 9h / day) I have full bars as I am near a tower.
I am on the Vodafone network, and using 3G (4G is not available with my SIM card and quite honestly, I don't really need it that much since I have WiFi most of the time).
I've used various aps to change from LTE to GSM PRL Auto, with no improvement to the battery life.
PS: I'd very much rather not to root/flash anything unless it's a last resort sollution
Could use some help!
My phone is the AT&T version, returning it to RMA is not an option as I bought it on ebay, and unlocked the bootloader. I am willing to root if that fixes it, i haven't rooted until now because of the OTA
PS: The reason screen on is not high in the list, is because I have a Pebble Smartwatch
It is a Android lollipop bug which Google is yet to look into. If you can then avoid using Mobile data. Even if you switch it off it still keeps using the radio and eating your battery. If you have to use it then suggest u restart once you've turned mobile data off. Preferably use WiFi. I am also facing the same bug and also reported it in the soak test community but Motorola still rolled out this update
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Google has known about this bug for months.. I don't even think it's marked as priority.
So if I am reading this correctly, you have been on the same charge for 2 days and you still have an estimated 10 hours left on that charge and you are concerned about standby using the bulk of your battery?
I would say you are doing ok.
I had similar issues, so I tried clearing the cache partition as suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/5-1-mobile-standby-battery-consumption-t3136725 - This removed the Cell standby from battery stats (now it takes like 3%). Unfortunately, this did not improve the battery life in any way. It seems that it's more of a measurement bug, not actual battery drain.