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Droid 4 tethering question

On T-Mobile, their phones' built in tethering switches you to a different APN to inform the carrier that you're tethering.
I've heard rumors that Verizon uses deep packet inspection to guess whether you're tethering or not. A Verizon salesperson told me that they can guess only based on the amount of data you use.
Which brings me to my question:
Does the Droid 4 switch you to a different APN when you tether? Does Verizon use DPI? Or do they make a scientific wild-ass guess based on the amount of data you use?
Thanks, guys.
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While I have no idea, I have done light tethering on my D4 and haven't had an issue. I've also used my OG Droid as my main source of internet for a week while my cable was down.
At the moment, tethering w/out a tether plan is a bit of a risk, although I've never heard of anyone on VZW getting in trouble for it. Anyone heard anything different?

podspi said:
I've never heard of anyone on VZW getting in trouble for it. Anyone heard anything different?
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Same. I haven't heard of anyone on VZW getting in trouble for tethering without a tethering plan.

Okay. Thanks for the input. Light tethering is all I want.
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When you tether does the Verizon screen pop up? On my D2G stock tethering was impossible without Verizon knowing. I'm looking at a D4 and no tethering is a dealbreaker. It's for occasional data (light usage) while on long trips.
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USB tethering works without any hassle. Wifi tethering does an entitlement check, but if you're rooted you can disable the check.
If you use the wifi tethering app, there's no check either.
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I got it working on Rogers, on the leak. Had to add my tethering APN though SQLite, please read more details here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27099169&postcount=2

I had to change my MTU to get USB tethering to work reliably. After that, I had no issues.

I haven't changed the MTU, and USB tethering seems to work fine. Verizon didn't even try to upsell me when I launched my laptop's web browser.
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NiveusLuna said:
I haven't changed the MTU, and USB tethering seems to work fine. Verizon didn't even try to upsell me when I launched my laptop's web browser.
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How do you actually do USB tethering? Do you select PC mode?

I rooted my D4 and installed the 'Wifi Tether" app and it works great. Used it to connect an iPad2 and a win7 laptop. Using this lets you have more than one device connect through it. Using USB would only have that one computer connected.

GermanGuy said:
How do you actually do USB tethering? Do you select PC mode?
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To use USB Tethering you obviously need a USB cable connected to your computer, then go to Tethering & Mobile Hotspot, and click on USB tethering.
Also note you also need to have WiFi disabled to use USB tethering. If WiFi is on the USB Tethering option will be disabled.

well not with a Droid 4 but with my Samsung stratosphere which is a 4G phone for verizon, i would use PDAnet and connect it by USB. i use about 15-25gigs a month and i have never had any problems. i don't torrent with my phone but i use it to download my PSN games that i buy from the store and also use it for online games like Swtor and WoW as my home internet is very very slow compared to my 4G speeds i get.
but also i do all my heavy tether use during late night (12AM-6AM) i never got throttled or anything before.
i used Fox Fi for my wireless tether app but lately i been having problems with it and it kicks me off 4G and i have to restart my phone but that is only for wireless tether

[Q] Tethering

Has anyone used any tethering apps successfully? I downloaded Wifi Tethering for Root and have not been able to connect. Foxfi will not work on my current phone. Is there any way to change settings in the phones system folder to take advantage of it's built in hotspot capabilities. Well without big red knowing about it.

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Clarke33 said:
Has anyone used any tethering apps successfully? I downloaded Wifi Tethering for Root and have not been able to connect. Foxfi will not work on my current phone. Is there any way to change settings in the phones system folder to take advantage of it's built in hotspot capabilities. Well without big red knowing about it.
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Clarke33,
Do you want to use the Kindle Fire 2 as a WiFi Hot Spot or Access Point? When you say Tether, do you want
to connect your phone to your computer through USB, this is called Tethering. When you use the phone as
a WiFi connection, this is called a Hot Spot or Access Point. What type of phone would you like to use as a Hot
Spot? There is a solid app called WiFi HotSpot / WiFi Tether. The for USB Tethering, there is WiFi HotSpot &
USB Tether Lite. Respond with a little more details.

prokennexusa said:
Clarke33,
Do you want to use the Kindle Fire 2 as a WiFi Hot Spot or Access Point? When you say Tether, do you want
to connect your phone to your computer through USB, this is called Tethering. When you use the phone as
a WiFi connection, this is called a Hot Spot or Access Point. What type of phone would you like to use as a Hot
Spot? There is a solid app called WiFi HotSpot / WiFi Tether. The for USB Tethering, there is WiFi HotSpot &
USB Tether Lite. Respond with a little more details.
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data package through Verizon and I want to be able to use my phone to supply the wifi if I am not close to a public wifi. I ran wifi analyzer and have a strong signal from my phone but it is an ad hoc signal which I understand the K f doesn't recognize.

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Clarke33 said:
I have a grandfathered unlimited data package through Verizon and I want to be able to use my phone to supply the wifi if I am not close to a public wifi. I ran wifi analyzer and have a strong signal from my phone but it is an ad hoc signal which I understand the K f doesn't recognize.
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Clarke33,
Now I understand! Yes, Ad Hoc is not supported by many devices. Change the settings from Ad Hoc
to Infrastructure in the WiFi Application. This will be in the Options or Settings of the WiFi Tethering
Application.

Ok, getting closer to something working. I downloaded Wifi Tether for Root and it has a bunch of device selections and different option but something is still not quite right. With generic ICS selected and startup method selected Netd (master) the KF recognizes the signal as infrastructure mode and will allow me to connect but when I try to access the web all I get is a white screen that never loads. Why?

I have answered my own question. I tried another app called Open Garden Wifi Tether and it works like a champ. I have it set on generic ICS and setup method as Netd (master). So far everything is working great. Before anyone thinks bad of tethering against the will of the big red V, I have a plan with 5 lines and 3 data packages (@$90/month) and I'll be danged if I am going to give them any more since I have unlimited data.

Kindle Fire HD and 2 Tethering
Clarke33 said:
I have answered my own question. I tried another app called Open Garden Wifi Tether and it works like a champ. I have it set on generic ICS and setup method as Netd (master). So far everything is working great. Before anyone thinks bad of tethering against the will of the big red V, I have a plan with 5 lines and 3 data packages (@$90/month) and I'll be danged if I am going to give them any more since I have unlimited data.
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Clarke33,
I have no problem with Tethering. I believe that we pay enough in Service Fees and as long as
you are not sharing the connection with 5 neighbors with the motivation to make money, there
is no problem with personal use. I am happy to hear that you were able to make it work. Good
job Clarke33!

No, the only thing I tether from my phone is my KF. I have actually been also playing with a hotspot toggle and using the phone's native hotspot. So far this has also worked and has not activated the screen from Verizon saying I need to pay an additional amount.

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Clarke33 said:
No, the only thing I tether from my phone is my KF. I have actually been also playing with a hotspot toggle and using the phone's native hotspot. So far this has also worked and has not activated the screen from Verizon saying I need to pay an additional amount.
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Clarke33,
I really believe it will not trigger the Verizon Firmware, you did it, enjoy the results.

any other good tethering apps? open garden isnt there any more and zt-180 doesnt work.

VZW Moto X tethering

Anyone able to tether with a VZW MX2? Foxfi?

Sure. Easy using built in tethering.

I assume this means you have paid tethering? I am on unlimited, can I add tethering without losing unlimited?

GatorsUF said:
I assume this means you have paid tethering? I am on unlimited, can I add tethering without losing unlimited?
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Yes, I'm on a family share plan. While you can set up a plan to pay for tethering, I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't have to. Do a littleore research on foxfi and some of the other tethering apps.

I don't necessarily want to pay, just want to be able to do it and keep unlimited. I don't have my phone yet (est Oct 27) so curious if anyone has been able to get tethering to work with foxfi or similar.

GatorsUF said:
I assume this means you have paid tethering? I am on unlimited, can I add tethering without losing unlimited?
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From what Verizon has told me.yes you can, and you will have unlimited tether.

I have unlimited data and no tether plan, just tried to setup the mobile hotspot with no dice says I have to pay 30/mo for tethering. Been using EasyTether which works - I hate having to install separate apps on both the phone and pc to do this, but it works which beats the alternative.

billygoat32 said:
I have unlimited data and no tether plan, just tried to setup the mobile hotspot with no dice says I have to pay 30/mo for tethering. Been using EasyTether which works - I hate having to install separate apps on both the phone and pc to do this, but it works which beats the alternative.
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Thanks for checking, did you try both FoxFi and built in? Are there any other hotspot apps that might work?
I am really hoping to tether my tablet from my phone, so the EasyTether won't really work for me. I also use my phone to tether my chromecast and tablet together...so bluetooth isn't the best option for that either.
I presume once root is achieved it will be possible, so I will have patience just hoped it would be an easy fix

If possible, I am curious about the same thing. Can someone install FoxFi and see if it will work with Moto X?

JayRyu said:
If possible, I am curious about the same thing. Can someone install FoxFi and see if it will work with Moto X?
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No go, says wifi tether has been blocked by your carrier. USB works though.

jawmail said:
No go, says wifi tether has been blocked by your carrier. USB works though.
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Damn, I was afraid of that. Wifi tethering is essential for me. Thanks for letting me know.

With respect to wifi tethering (via Foxfi or other), someone suggested the need to encrypt the phone, which then (somehow) permits wifi tethering to work. Before I spend the time doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has heard this as well and/or attempted it?

SABmore said:
With respect to wifi tethering (via Foxfi or other), someone suggested the need to encrypt the phone, which then (somehow) permits wifi tethering to work. Before I spend the time doing so, I wanted to see if anyone has heard this as well and/or attempted it?
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What they mean encrypt the phone is by putting a password lock on the phone. Even if you do it, it still gives you the error message seen above, "WiFi tethering blocked by carrier"

JayRyu said:
What they mean encrypt the phone is by putting a password lock on the phone. Even if you do it, it still gives you the error message seen above, "WiFi tethering blocked by carrier"
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Yes, encrypt the data/storage on the phone by going under Settings->Security->Encrypt phone.

SABmore said:
Yes, encrypt the data/storage on the phone by going under Settings->Security->Encrypt phone.
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Any luck with that?

i was thinking of getting this phone. but with out tether. im out.. i hope devs figure out how to root VW Moto x soon..

I am also a wifi tether user, but will have to get by with USB tether until someone roots it (hopefully). You guys the do USB tether, are you using the clockworkmod tether?

has anyone try PdaNet+/foxfi???

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PDAnet+

Heya folks!
I noticed while looking at the Sprint Q&A section someone want to tether without root. Well I use PDAnet+ for USB tether and it works very well! I have better cell service where I live than home internet so I use my G4 as my internet. I haven't had any major issues. I have downloaded GTA 5 and play that pretty regularly with little to no latency issues. The free version does have some restrictions but for general browsing I think it's perfect.
I can't post direct links due to being a newbie but the website is pdanet.co. Alternatively you can just good PDAnet+ and the first result will be the website as well. I use this app daily with no major problems so if you have any questions about the quality or want a screen shot of my speed let me know and I can try my best to answer any questions.
P.S. I am not responsible for any charges you may recieve, Sprint DOES have a tethering so they MAY contact you about this. I haven't been notified as of yet and I have around 150GB of tethered data thus far.

what about wireless

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what about wireless
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I haven't tested that nor have the ability to. Nothing other than my G4 is wireless. Feel free to give it a whirl and see!

Pdanet and foxfi are the same app, one is wired tether and the other Hotspot respectively

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I also use pdanet but I do usb to computer then it should give you option to Wi-Fi share from your laptop or computer.

donlonte said:
I also use pdanet but I do usb to computer then it should give you option to Wi-Fi share from your laptop or computer.
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So with PDA net, you can USB tether to your computer from your G4 then use your computer to share WIFI connections to other phones?
I keep getting an error, unable to set up wifi access point, err = 19

puch0021 said:
So with PDA net, you can USB tether to your computer from your G4 then use your computer to share WIFI connections to other phones?
I keep getting an error, unable to set up wifi access point, err = 19
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Are you going to the internet connection and sharing it?

Using PDAnet With Galaxy S7

I installed PDAnet on my Galaxy S7 using USB tethering and it worked Great
Then I tried Bluetooth and and paired PDAnet on my phone with PDAnet on my laptop
it worked even better, as if I was using WiFi
Try it out guys no root needed, no DSL codes
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I would like root hate the bloating.

jotech said:
I installed PDAnet on my Galaxy S7 using USB tethering and it worked Great
Then I tried Bluetooth and and paired PDAnet on my phone with PDAnet on my laptop
it worked even better, as if I was using WiFi
Try it out guys no root needed, no DSL codes
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I would like root hate the bloating.
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I haven't tried the bluetooth feature yet. I use the USB tether because of the internet share feature when using USB and the PDAnet software on my laptop. I still need WiFi for other devices such as my TV and Rand McNally Truck GPS. PDAnet was a big save for me when I could not root.
Do you have any connection drops using bluetooth? I lose bluetooth connection to my speaker system about once a day.

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I haven't tried the bluetooth feature yet. I use the USB tether because of the internet share feature when using USB and the PDAnet software on my laptop. I still need WiFi for other devices such as my TV and Rand McNally Truck GPS. PDAnet was a big save for me when I could not root.
Do you have any connection drops using bluetooth? I lose bluetooth connection to my speaker system about once a day.
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Yes.. I have notice connection drop using Bluetooth. Not sure why? If I need phone charge I use USB tether. Your right WiFi has other benefits like for multi devices. I'm a big fan of WiFi but Bluetooth or USB tether will do for now.
I rarely use WiFi on Rand McNally Truck GPS. I use my phone app to stay up to date with the weather.

jotech said:
Yes.. I have notice connection drop using Bluetooth. Not sure why? If I need phone charge I use USB tether. Your right WiFi has other benefits like for multi devices. I'm a big fan of WiFi but Bluetooth or USB tether will do for now.
I rarely use WiFi on Rand McNally Truck GPS. I use my phone app to stay up to date with the weather.
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Did you know that if you use USB Tether on PDAnet that you can use the WiFi Share (beta) on the PDAnet software on your computer. It seems to work very well. Only problem I have had is it shows up for bluetooth as an option also, but I can't seem to get it to work with bluetooth. I get an error 19.
edit: I just got WiFi sharing to work with BT. Had to reboot the computer.

Awesome!! I just tried it and it work. I connected my Rand McNally truck GPS thru WiFi Share (beta) using USB tether than I tried BT and WiFi Share on my laptop worked as well. Now we have USB Bluetooth and WIFI using only PDAnet.

jotech said:
I installed PDAnet on my Galaxy S7 using USB tethering and it worked Great
Then I tried Bluetooth and and paired PDAnet on my phone with PDAnet on my laptop
it worked even better, as if I was using WiFi
Try it out guys no root needed, no DSL codes
Downloaded at junefabrics.com
I would like root hate the bloating.
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Did you take the update that came out the 29th (I think)? What software version are you running?

I don"t think so... Software Version is G930PVPU1APB5, Android version 6.0.1, Android Security Patch Level Feb. 1 2016. I hope that helps you any.

jotech said:
I don"t think so... Software Version is G930PVPU1APB5, Android version 6.0.1, Android Security Patch Level Feb. 1 2016. I hope that helps you any.
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Ok. The most recent version is G930PVPU2APC5. This update locked down the apn settings. It would be interesting to hear if anyone on the current software version can still use pdanet for wifi hotspot.
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makane716 said:
Ok. The most recent version is G930PVPU2APC5. This update locked down the apn settings. It would be interesting to hear if anyone on the current software version can still use pdanet for wifi hotspot.
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I took the update and PDAnet still works. PDAnet does nothing with the APNs. Instead you have to install PDAnet on both the phone and PC. The wifi hotspot is on the PC side using PDAnet software to do the share.

TDStewart said:
I took the update and PDAnet still works. PDAnet does nothing with the APNs. Instead you have to install PDAnet on both the phone and PC. The wifi hotspot is on the PC side using PDAnet software to do the share.
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Yes. Usb tether works this way. And to tether through a pc and use the pc to create wifi. However, pdanet will also activate the native wifi hotspot capabilities of the phone itself. When I open pdanet+foxfi and hit "Activate wifi hotspot" it turns on the wifi hotspot of my phone. No pc involved.
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makane716 said:
Yes. Usb tether works this way. And to tether through a pc and use the pc to create wifi. However, pdanet will also activate the native wifi hotspot capabilities of the phone itself. When I open pdanet+foxfi and hit "Activate wifi hotspot" it turns on the wifi hotspot of my phone. No pc involved.
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You are correct the FoxFi part of PDAnet does have WiFi but it only works for us if we are paying for the hotspot and it then uses our allocated hotspot data. ie. I pay for 6gb a month and it will use that up. With that being the case I might as well just use it directly from the phone and not use FoxFi. If you are not paying for hotspot I do not believe it will work. If I'm wrong I'd like to know though.

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You are correct the FoxFi part of PDAnet does have WiFi but it only works for us if we are paying for the hotspot and it then uses our allocated hotspot data. ie. I pay for 6gb a month and it will use that up. With that being the case I might as well just use it directly from the phone and not use FoxFi. If you are not paying for hotspot I do not believe it will work. If I'm wrong I'd like to know though.
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You're right. It's been so long since I have used an non rooted phone. Been getting free hotspot for years. Right now I have altered my apn settings for the free hotspot.
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I tried to activate Wifi hotspot PDAnet on the phone but it gave me "Hotspot Error" You are not subscribed to the Hotspot Service. Fail to activate Hotspot. Me paying an extra monthly fee for Wifi is not going to happend. This is why we need root among other things. If your Hotspot Wifi is activated on your phone then there is no need for PDAnet

It seems to have the same problem regular hotspot does for me after update. Keeps asking me to purchase plan. Have to reboot and quickly turn on. Glad that works our I'd be sol. Anyone else have a reliable method? My APN settings are locked out also now.

jotech said:
I tried to activate Wifi hotspot PDAnet on the phone but it gave me "Hotspot Error" You are not subscribed to the Hotspot Service. Fail to activate Hotspot. Me paying an extra monthly fee for Wifi is not going to happend. This is why we need root among other things. If your Hotspot Wifi is activated on your phone then there is no need for PDAnet
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Even if paying for Wifi, PDAnet does still help (not with wifi but with USB or BT tether) by not using up are allotted data. I go through my allotted data rather quickly. I'm an over the road driver and use internet for many things to include weather on my truck gps, normal things such as email and system updates, and for entertainment (Games and movies).

TDStewart said:
Even if paying for Wifi, PDAnet does still help (not with wifi but with USB or BT tether) by not using up are allotted data. I go through my allotted data rather quickly. I'm an over the road driver and use internet for many things to include weather on my truck gps, normal things such as email and system updates, and for entertainment (Games and movies).
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I'm OTR myself and I know what you mean. I use my laptop for everything its my entertainment system. TV, movies, software, games I rely heavily on tethering my laptop with my phone. I even D/L movies and save them for later where there is no Internet like the Rockies. Thumbs up for PDAnet 2 thumbs up when root is here.

I'm thoroughly aggravated. I have Boost mobile plan with a hotspot. As I live on a houseboat, it's very important to me and 8gb isn't enough. A Boost rep gave me foxfi info. But I get error that my provider won't allow hotspot so I must tether or bt. Now I downloaded foxfi on ex who has Boost but not a hotspot. He can use the option of Foxfi hotspot,tether, or bt. I'm thinking of buying separate phone just for this.

Please verify with me is foxfi working with sprint gs7? I am thinking of upgrading and need to know what phone to get. please advise, anyone?

jotech said:
I'm OTR myself and I know what you mean. I use my laptop for everything its my entertainment system. TV, movies, software, games I rely heavily on tethering my laptop with my phone. I even D/L movies and save them for later where there is no Internet like the Rockies. Thumbs up for PDAnet 2 thumbs up when root is here.
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I am the same. Not so much movies, but all sorts of software. If I had to rely on my laptop for visual entertainment as well, I don't think it or me could handle it. I already fill up 5 virtual desktops, switch between windows and Linux and would punch my own mother in face for, like, 500% more screen space, or even just the ability to lower the dpi or increase the resolution past 1366x768... But currently, even with an alfa 36N and 9dBi antenna, the WiFi here is just plain ****. The burger King WiFi accross the street is better, but I can't can never get the login page to come up. so my phone is my sole Internet source.
I will say one thing, I really regret going with the nougat beta. I've been meaning to revert back so I can reroot because the Hotspot was unlimited and much more stable. That and the beta is super sluggish, at least for me. Some of the newer features were cool, but not nearly worth giving up root. But I let it get to the point where backing up and making the switch back will be an a 6 hour engagement, and I keep putting it off.

Amazing thanks