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Moto G a good birthday gift?

My father is turning 56 this year, and his HTC MyTouch 4G Slide is finally failing him this year. Great phone in its own right. Now I want to get him a new phone for his birthday and I ordered the Moto G because the reviews were great.
All he does is use Google Maps, call, email for work and text. Will this phone be a good one for him or should I just spend more and get him the Moto X? It's his birthday and I don't want to get him a phone that will fail two years down the road. I also don't want to get him a laggy, slow phone like his HTC has become.
Thanks!

In few words... you have made the best choice ever.

monkor said:
I don't want to get him a phone that will fail two years down the road.
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My take on this, spend a little more and get the Moto X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/memory-management-problem-solution-t2951992

depends on your budget actually...moto x 2nd gen is great device
unless you want a dual sim variant which is moto g 2nd gen xt 1068.
i am having moto g 2nd gen for 2 months now...and i must it is a great device...no lags ...smooth...worry free purchase.
(i always liked motorola phones ....these are great devices...my old photon 4g still rocks when it comes to image quality...hardware quality is at par than competition...)
if you want to give him htc then htc desire 820 is great device...specifications are top notch and as he is already familiar with htc that would be great gift for him...
other good devices in that price range are
zte z7mini
samsung note 2
samsung s5 mini
nexus 5
huawei honor 6

I decided to stick with the Moto G. If it sucks I'll just return it and get him a Moto X, but pure Android is such a treat to use I'm sure he'll like it

I had an iPhone 4s until a month ago. I sold ir and bought the xt1063 from.best buy unlocked. Great device. For the price of 180 you wont get anythig better. I really recomme d this cell phone.

[Q] Moto X (2013) or Moto X (2014) - You Decide!

Please only vote if you upgraded from Moto X 2013 to Moto X 2014...
Do you think it was the right decision or the wrong decision. . . overall.
It's all to help me decide what to do.
Thanks.

Do it. Didn't think the Moto X 2013 could be beat. Moto X 2014 my best phone yet.

The 2014 is an upgrade in every way. For a while I was unhappy that Motorola increased the screen size, but now I've grown accustomed to it and there's no denying that the extra real estate is nice. The metal trim makes it feel ultra premium, and I am a huge fan of the leather back. Take it from someone who is unbiased and researches and considers every single phone before purchasing, and buys on average 3-4 phones a year- the 2014 Moto X is hands down the single greatest smartphone ever made. Yes there are phones out there with higher res screens and faster processors, but the Moto X is more than the sum of its parts, and offers the best out of box user experience ever. All other phones feel like toys in comparison.

True story. Hardware side it is a very well build phone. Nice materials and if u can build your own on motomaker do it.

michyall said:
True story. Hardware side it is a very well build phone. Nice materials and if u can build your own on motomaker do it.
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Both the hardware and the software are very well executed. The original Moto X was the very first phone that I didn't feel the need to flash a custom ROM on, and that carried over to the 2014. The software is flawless, and unlike every other phone, Motorola took the "less is more" approach and absolutely nailed it. The few features that Motorola did add are all actually useful, some of which are game changers, Moto Display especially. The first Moto X was the perfect smartphone, and Motorola did the impossible and improved on it in every single way.

My 2013 was perfect with 4.4.4, fit my hand like a glove, and was near perfect with one handed use.
My 2014 is none of these things. I'm reasonably certain they'll fix the bugs (except the annoying escalating ringtones, which moto considers a "safety" feature), but it won't change the fact that it is much harder to handle.
The larger display is nice when I am at home or in the office (or anywhere I am not frequently taking in and out of my pocket while walking on tile floors or concrete sidewalks), but I actually think the 2013 display is cleaner looking (although the artifacts I am seeing may be due to lollipop).
The 2014 is clearly a sexier design, but it is one that is less usable in a couple of regards. Am I sorry I upgraded? No. But I kept my 2013 (replacing my old RAZR as my backup).
So, I don't consider the 2014 a must have upgrade, especially if you liked the size and feel of the 2013.

I should probably clarify that my opinions on the software experience are based solely on 4.4.4. I am not a fan of Lollipop at all, and have decided to keep all my Android devices on 4.4.4 indefinitely. I flashed Lollipop on my Nexus 5 and found it to be horribly flawed, and still think that KitKat is still the best version of Android.

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I should probably clarify that my opinions on the software experience are based solely on 4.4.4. I am not a fan of Lollipop at all, and have decided to keep all my Android devices on 4.4.4 indefinitely. I flashed Lollipop on my Nexus 5 and found it to be horribly flawed, and still think that KitKat is still the best version of Android.
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True till cm release a cm12 snapshot

michyall said:
True till cm release a cm12 snapshot
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Nah, I gave up on CM ages ago. They occasionally come up with some good ideas but their ROMs tend to be buggy as hell. For me, I stick to stock + Xposed framework.

Best phone to get next? (Small)

Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?

I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x

pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..

pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:

I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.

vikramkhalsa said:
Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.

I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.

domenci said:
Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...

I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)

I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.

Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
Thanks!

me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice

I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.

sherif2015 said:
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..

I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.

I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!

mario24601 said:
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..

vikramkhalsa said:
Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.

Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.

My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.

Buy The 2014 Or Wait For The 2015?

Should I Buy The Moto X 2014 Or Wait For The 2015 Version?

motoinspri said:
Should I Buy The Moto X 2014 Or Wait For The 2015 Version?
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What are the 2015 features?
How much money is in your budget for a phone?

motoinspri said:
Should I Buy The Moto X 2014 Or Wait For The 2015 Version?
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Do you have a good phone now and can wait for another 6 to 9 months? If you need a phone, the current X is still a very good option in the market. Compare to Nexus, Samsung 6, HTC M9, Sony Z3, and soon a Lucky-Goldstar G4. If you can wait, the next X I'm sure will be better in some way than the current. Personally, having a 2014, I will skip the next version. Actually I may pick up a 2013 if I find a cheap enough one, because the size was so nice on that one.

I have never been happier with a phone than I am with my Moto X 2014.

Still worth buying (used) Moto X?

I have a deal of used XT1060 for 116$. Is the 2013 Moto X still worth buying? Is it still considered a "top" mobile phone?

Nadavs10 said:
I have a deal of used XT1060 for 116$. Is the 2013 Moto X still worth buying? Is it still considered a "top" mobile phone?
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Moto X (2013) is no longer considered a "top" phone. Even when it was new it was never considered a "proper flagship". But while it lacked in specs and raw power, it was the usability of the device as a whole what made it a charming phone.
I think $116 is not a bad price for one, considering it is in good/excellent condition. If you are looking for a good phone, with all the basics covered, that sits comfortably in your hand, the Moto X is the way to go. If you want raw power and good AnTuTu scores you should look somewhere else.

getting a deal on a mint dev edition moto x verizon. Will this work on gsm networks outside the states? really getting it to run cm 12.1.

ClowReedd said:
Moto X (2013) is no longer considered a "top" phone. Even when it was new it was never considered a "proper flagship". But while it lacked in specs and raw power, it was the usability of the device as a whole what made it a charming phone.
I think $116 is not a bad price for one, considering it is in good/excellent condition. If you are looking for a good phone, with all the basics covered, that sits comfortably in your hand, the Moto X is the way to go. If you want raw power and good AnTuTu scores you should look somewhere else.
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I see. I'm certainly not looking for a smartphone for gaming, but I think I'll go with the 2014 version after what you've said.

If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.

If you can get it new, do it!
A 2 yo used phone could have battery issues, so I wouldn't recommend it... (The phone is however still good, with latest OS and everything you need. Except gaming raw power. But Motorola was never about raw power.)

Better Wait for few days
Moto X 2013, if you go by configuration and cheap pricing for old phone i would suggest you to go for it. But if you can add more money and wait for MOTO X Style (coming this sep) you'll get a far much better configuration which will stand out with the nxt gen OS also. Thinking ahead in 2 years.
So my suggestion go for Moto X Style.

Hmm. I love my Moto-X 1st gen (XT-1055) US Cellular. Now on Lollipop.
As for battery. It can get replaced in the future. Go to youtube and check out the videos.

ClowReedd said:
If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.
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Same. Just went for the Sony Xperia z3 Compact. Had it for a couple of days. Although I miss some things about the moto x, I like this so far. We don't really have any other options haha.

Atiquefiroz said:
Moto X 2013, if you go by configuration and cheap pricing for old phone i would suggest you to go for it. But if you can add more money and wait for MOTO X Style (coming this sep) you'll get a far much better configuration which will stand out with the nxt gen OS also. Thinking ahead in 2 years.
So my suggestion go for Moto X Style.
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I just don't have that extra money for the X Style, or generally, any premium 2015 smartphone.
ClowReedd said:
If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.
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Done! Moto X 2014 (Pure Edition) is now on its way. only 250$ for new sealed box. That's about twice as the 1st gen deal but it's one year younger and new from the factory.