Few questions about rooting this device - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

Mainly Knox Counter stuff.
1. would rooting trip my knox?
2. would installing such apps like Titanium backup/xposed trip my knox?
3.would installing a custom recovery such as CWM/TWRP trip my knox?
If I read it correctly somewhere. As long as I don't install any custom rom/kernel . My Knox Counter will be okay?

drckml said:
Mainly Knox Counter stuff.
1. would rooting trip my knox?
2. would installing such apps like Titanium backup/xposed trip my knox?
3.would installing a custom recovery such as CWM/TWRP trip my knox?
If I read it correctly somewhere. As long as I don't install any custom rom/kernel . My Knox Counter will be okay?
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Continue reading. It depends what version you have weather you can optain root. You cannot install cwm or twrp. Must use safestrap or flashfire. Use towel root to root the phone if your version is compatible

It's G900A.
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drckml said:
It's G900A.
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Well there only about 5 different stock firmwares that have been released for the G900a. Just cause its a G900a don't mean it can be rooted.

drckml said:
Mainly Knox Counter stuff.
1. would rooting trip my knox?
2. would installing such apps like Titanium backup/xposed trip my knox?
3.would installing a custom recovery such as CWM/TWRP trip my knox?
If I read it correctly somewhere. As long as I don't install any custom rom/kernel . My Knox Counter will be okay?
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1- It depends of how you root it. If your root does not involve modifying bootloader/recovery/kernel, no. For examples, there are methods where you use towelroot on an older android version, then update the phone with a modifies update file (with no modification to the kernel). That does not trip knox. But if you use something like CF-autoroot that touches your recovery, then yes, you will trip knox.
2- No.
3- Most definitely yes. Any recovery that is not signed by samsung for your phone will trip your knox.

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[Q] Can I safely flash any older 4.3 stock FW over XXUEML9?

Hello,
I'd like to ask if I can safely downgrade my current XXUEML9 ROM to some older releases of 4.3 s3 i9305 official Samsung ROMs.
Why do that? I've read some reports that first releases of 4.3 ROMs for i9305 could be rooted with kingo without tripping knox flag and the XXUEML9 release has been reported to be tripping the flag (some new samsung's security measures introduced meanwhile), so I think it could be worth trying but better safe than sorry - I know I can't downgrade to 4.1.2 or whatever under 4.3 but what about new 4.3 to "older" 4.3? Just wondering if there aren't safety patches in the bootloader itself that prevent users from downgrading to anything lower than current FW
Thanks for your help.
you can do it safely...i would recommend doing a factory reset after it...just to be sure it won't mess with kingoapp...i did it without problems(i tripped knox way before doing this)
spiderman07 said:
you can do it safely...i would recommend doing a factory reset after it...just to be sure it won't mess with kingoapp...i did it without problems(i tripped knox way before doing this)
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thanks for the info,
I plan to do it that way:
1. enter factory recovery -> factory wipe
2. odin -> flash oldest 4.3 i9305 stock image
3. if bootloops -> repeat step 1.
4. kingo root -> let's see if knox stays 0x0, ofc I'll let you know in the thread here
5. whatever ROM, but keeping stock kernel and stock recovery (otherwise all the steps above pointless)
Kingo trips knox
Raistlin1158 said:
Kingo trips knox
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I doubt it. Kingo either roots the phone or fail, and then gives you option of installing custom recovery which trips Knox flag.
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Which firmware is the oldest 4.3?
I used it and it did...
shayind4 said:
[/COLOR]Which firmware is the oldest 4.3?
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seems that XXUEMKC is the oldest 4.3 - it has the release date 28.11.2013
well, looks like a lottery with kingo root; but as far as I read in some forums some were successful with rooting that way and keeping the flag 0x0 with older FWs and everybody reporting using kingo on latest FWs says it had tripped KNOX
and, to be clear - as of now, there aren't any other ways to root i9305/4.3 than:
a) kingo (knox lottery)
b) CF-Root (trips knox)
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z) waiting for miracle and some new rooting methods?
adamuadamu said:
seems that XXUEMKC is the oldest 4.3 - it has the release date 28.11.2013
well, looks like a lottery with kingo root; but as far as I read in some forums some were successful with rooting that way and keeping the flag 0x0 with older FWs and everybody reporting using kingo on latest FWs says it had tripped KNOX
and, to be clear - as of now, there aren't any other ways to root i9305/4.3 than:
a) kingo (knox lottery)
b) CF-Root (trips knox)
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z) waiting for miracle and some new rooting methods?
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I think you are right. I have MKC firmware but not able to root with Kingo. It always failed and asked if i wanted to install custom recovery with root which will trip Knox flag, and i always clicked 'NO' button. My knox flag remains 0x0 but phone not rooted.
so, all the things I planned turn out to be pointless
the ***MKC PDA FW is the oldest one of 4.3 for i9305
you've got no root on MKC via kingo, and I got some information from a Polish forum, that kingo did the root on MKC but tripped the flag anyway (I can only assume it tries to get the root through some dirty tricks via cable and if it fails that way, it offers to flash custom recovery in order to flash apk and su binary to the system).
so, for the time being CF-Root seems the only reasonable option to root - you'll trip knox either way, but without sending all your sensitive data to china and back.

Towelroot?

If u use towelroot on my note 4 will it trip Knox? Has anyone tried?
Towelroot doesn't work. Go to the development section and follow steps for CFroot. It will trip knox though.

What root method should I use??

Hello everyone. I have a question in regards to rooting my S6. My s6 has version 5.0.2 and the OCG baseband. Should I upgrade to 5.1.1 before I root? I would like to root without tripping the Knox counter. Also, if I were to root without tripping knox, would I have to use this method every time I flash a new rom? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
just update to 5.1.1 and flash unibase kernel, why do you care about knox? it doesnt really matter if you trip it you still have insurance through your carrier, seriously knox is really only there for companies who provide phones to their employees and dont want them to mess with them.
OsSkates1996 said:
just update to 5.1.1 and flash unibase kernel, why do you care about knox? it doesnt really matter if you trip it you still have insurance through your carrier, seriously knox is really only there for companies who provide phones to their employees and dont want them to mess with them.
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I can understand that, but I would like to keep from tripping my knox counter. Anyways, I just rooted via PingPong successfully. How do I keep from triggering knox now that I am rooted? Can I flash TWRP or any other kind or recovery?? Thanks.
no, if you want to keep from tripping your knox counter you cant really do anyhting. flashing any kind of custom recovery or rom or kernel will trip it, all you can really do is just stay rooted and thats about it
OsSkates1996 said:
no, if you want to keep from tripping your knox counter you cant really do anyhting. flashing any kind of custom recovery or rom or kernel will trip it, all you can really do is just stay rooted and thats about it
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Got ya. Guess I'm tripping knox then. Thanks for your help.
Ping-pong requires no computer, right? And also , is it confirmed working with this tmobile S6? I am on the latest update and have been stalling on root due to having no PC.
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carnivalrejectq said:
Ping-pong requires no computer, right? And also , is it confirmed working with this tmobile S6? I am on the latest update and have been stalling on root due to having no PC.
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Ping pong does not require a pc. As of the other question I have no answer.
I am on of6. Oem unlocking is on and odin will not flash. I use the directions to the T but it stays on nand write start

Can TWRP be flashed without tripping KNOX? (Need TWRP only- not trying to root phone)

I'd like to flash TWRP onto my Note 5, but want to be absolutely sure it will NOT trip the KNOX counter. Is this a possibility at all, or does flashing any custom recovery lead to KNOX being tripped?
I am NOT looking to root the phone - I just need TWRP. (I am fully aware that at the moment, all rooting methods will trip the KNOX counter.)
Thanks!
Tom
hey_tommy said:
I'd like to flash TWRP onto my Note 5, but want to be absolutely sure it will NOT trip the KNOX counter.
Thanks!
Tom
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It will trip Knox.
Thanks for confirming - that's what I figured as well.
I'm guessing that flashing ANYTHING other than the unmodified stock image would result in Knox being tripped...
hey_tommy said:
Thanks for confirming - that's what I figured as well.
I'm guessing that flashing ANYTHING other than the unmodified stock image would result in Knox being tripped...
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Flashing other recoveries, kernels, and modified firmware packages will trip Knox.

How easy to trip knox

Hi guys I had thes8 plus and first thing I did was root and flash custom Rom when it come to selling it to get the note 8 I hated how many apps where still broken from tripping knox
My question is I don't want to trip knox again on my note 8 but how easy is it to trip knox?
Can any apps from app store trip it by mistake or using adb to say go to full immersive mode?
Or a couple off modded apps like YouTube modded?
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I had thes8 plus and first thing I did was root and flash custom Rom when it come to selling it to get the note 8 I hated how many apps where still broken from tripping knox
My question is I don't want to trip knox again on my note 8 but how easy is it to trip knox?
Can any apps from app store trip it by mistake or using adb to say go to full immersive mode?
Or a couple off modded apps like YouTube modded?
Thanks
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The only thing that will trip knox is flashing a custom recovery - which is required to root.
Don't root and you will be fine.
no apps can trip knox
adb wont either
Mr.Ash.Man said:
The only thing that will trip knox is flashing a custom recovery - which is required to root.
Don't root and you will be fine.
no apps can trip knox
adb wont either
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So basically stay away from Odin lol
Thanks
brockyneo said:
So basically stay away from Odin lol
Thanks
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You can use Odin without tripping Knox, you can flash other Samsung firmware and it won't be tripped just don't Odin a custom recovery.
brockyneo said:
So basically stay away from Odin lol
Thanks
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Kind of you could still flash stock firmware fine if you needed to recover from a soft brick of some sort.
But yeah apart from that just stay away from it
Mr.Ash.Man said:
The only thing that will trip knox is flashing a custom recovery - which is required to root.
Don't root and you will be fine.
no apps can trip knox
adb wont either
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I have combination file and flashed, I have OEM unlock checked, I want to intentionally trip knox. How to? I don't have recovery file.
jazzdglass said:
I have combination file and flashed, I have OEM unlock checked, I want to intentionally trip knox. How to? I don't have recovery file.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/recovery-galaxy-note-8-t3832962
stonedpsycho said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/recovery-galaxy-note-8-t3832962
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Sorry I didn't get anything from the link. Could you be straight forward?
jazzdglass said:
Sorry I didn't get anything from the link. Could you be straight forward?
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It has the recovery needed to root (trip Knox) and has instructions on how to flash it. Does not get any more straight forward than this.
stonedpsycho said:
It has the recovery needed to root (trip Knox) and has instructions on how to flash it. Does not get any more straight forward than this.
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Unfortunately I have Snapdragon
And I don't think there is any custom recovery that is flash able for Snapdragon?
jazzdglass said:
Unfortunately I have Snapdragon
And I don't think there is any custom recovery that is flash able for Snapdragon?
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It's kinda hard to impossible to trip knox on snapdragons since the bootloader is locked!.
Read this thread if you want nougat root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-t4060707

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