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[Q] Windows Phone 8.1 (Nokia Lumia Icon)

Hey everyone, I'm new to these forums but was recommended by a friend. He said that if anyone knew how to do what I need to do, this would be the place so I appreciate any help given.
I am looking to wipe out my Nokia Lumia Icon which has the Windows Phone 8.1 Dev kit on it and put on Android. I tried Windows Phone out but there is still a few kinks that need to be worked out before I fully commit. I would normally just go get an Android Phone but finances don't currently permit and the hardware on this phone is nice.
Thanks

johndaviddunn said:
Hey everyone, I'm new to these forums but was recommended by a friend. He said that if anyone knew how to do what I need to do, this would be the place so I appreciate any help given.
I am looking to wipe out my Nokia Lumia Icon which has the Windows Phone 8.1 Dev kit on it and put on Android. I tried Windows Phone out but there is still a few kinks that need to be worked out before I fully commit. I would normally just go get an Android Phone but finances don't currently permit and the hardware on this phone is nice.
Thanks
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Hi,
If I understand correctly, you want to install Android on this phone? If this is so, then you can not.
By cons, I do not quite understand "Windows Phone 8.1 Dev kit" You mean the Preview for Developers?

anaheiim said:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you want to install Android on this phone? If this is so, then you can not.
By cons, I do not quite understand "Windows Phone 8.1 Dev kit" You mean the Preview for Developers?
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Yes, I was looking to wipe off Windows Phone 8.1 and install android. Any reason behind why you can't do it? Just software/hardware compatibility or what?
I did mean the preview for developers.
Thanks!

... you're awfully new to this smartphone thing, aren't you? With *very* few counterexamples, what you're asking for is almost never possible. Without going into the technical details:
1) Most smartphones have locked bootloaders. WP8 devices won't load any OS without a MS signature; good luck getting one of those for your Android image.
2) There's no "installer" for Android (or for WP) the way there is for Windows 7 or Ubuntu or something. You have to customize an Android image with device-specific firmware, then flash the whole thing. There currently doesn't exist any Android-compatible firmware for the Icon.
3) Most important of all: SEARCH BEFORE POSTING! It is literally the number one rule on this forum. Lots of noobs have asked this question; it's annoying answering them over and over again.

If you want to install Android on Lumia Icon, why don't you just buy an Android phone ?

[Q&A] [Q] Lumia 635 hacking / rom flash

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kaplah said:
Hello,
I ordered the Lumia 635 as a dev phone during the black friday Microsoft Store deal. I've only recently considered getting it on a network (I was going to use it on wifi only). My issue is I'm on Tmobile, and the phone is for AT&T.
Can the phone be unlocked easily? Can I do a rom flash to the Tmobile firmware?
I'm a long time Android dev so I'm versed in most rom operations (Tmobile G1, Mytouch 4G, Viewsonic Gtablet, and now a Note 3). What can be done here?
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You can flash to the tmobile firmware but that will not unlock your phone.. You will need to either pay for an unlock code or call tmobile support and have them unlock the phone for free. Once again flashing the phone to a tmobile firmware will not unlock the phone. It will still need an att sim card for data unless using wifi only. To flash the phone anyway please visit this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515453

Got it reversed
Hi Baked!
I think you got the direction reversed. I have an AT&T phone I want to use on Tmobile. I did just get the unlock code. It took a bit of searching but I found a service that did it for $25. I'm not going to repost the service as I'm not sure how xda feels about that. For those of you who are looking for this look for a service outside of the US who lists prices in pounds.
Where do I get the rom and tools to install them? I'm having difficulty finding them. Unlike android where this is all well documented there does not seem to be a great resource for this.

kaplah said:
Hi Baked!
I think you got the direction reversed. I have an AT&T phone I want to use on Tmobile. I did just get the unlock code. It took a bit of searching but I found a service that did it for $25. I'm not going to repost the service as I'm not sure how xda feels about that. For those of you who are looking for this look for a service outside of the US who lists prices in pounds.
Where do I get the rom and tools to install them? I'm having difficulty finding them. Unlike android where this is all well documented there does not seem to be a great resource for this.
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I have been using android for a while and windows phone can be kind of confusing in terms of roms and such. The link i posted before contains links to programs that will allow you to download a t mobile rom for your phone. Sorry for not responding in a timely matter. If you want to begin flashing you must first follow these steps on in that link. After you click that link scroll down until you see PREREQUISITES
Download and install Nokia Care Suite PST 5.0.0 (5.4.119.1432). http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fds_fire/1408/1815/7389472134/NokiaCareSuiteForStore-5.4.119.1432.exe
Download and install Data Package Manager 4.2 (2013.7.5). https://mega.co.nz/#!SYd0jRCB!VEd7MSfjBeHNp7seG_yxQj7HLxX2afFHUXpk4Giuims
Download UserGroupsConfiguration.cfg. https://mega.co.nz/#!CZMUiYJY!vFQ45-5of6DY90Ckb0swtn8YNzAgPb5jQddKThYtsQQ
Of course, remember to backup all your personal data, settings, etc ... whether via the Windows Explorer, via the Microsoft account, or via OneDrive, etc ...
Charge the battery of your Nokia Windows Phone at least 50% of its capacity, for to avoid any problem!
Remove the SIM card during the all process!
For those which have a Nokia Windows Phone 8 with a microSD card, it is best to remove this microSD card during the all process!
Next you will have to follow these steps. they will show you where to put the .cfg file you downloaded earlier.
AUTHENTICATION FILE FOR NOKIA CARE SERVERS
For PC with Windows x86 (32 bits)
Copy the file UserGroupsConfiguration.cfg (therefore the decompressed file), in the three following directories / paths:
"C:\Programmes\Nokia\Nokia Care Suite\Data Package Manager\bin" (essential for using Data Package Manager category).
"C:\Programmes\Nokia\Nokia Care Suite\Multi Software Updater 5.0" (not useful for the tutorial, but essential to use the Multi Software Updater 5.0 category).
"C:\Programmes\Nokia\Nokia Care Suite\Product Support Tool For Store 5.0" (not useful for the tutorial, but essential to use the Product Support Tool For Store 5.0 category).
Get all that done and message me and ill help you as best as i can to get this done fast.

Can I flash any other roms on this model?

[Q] Choosing a WP8.1 phone

Hello people,
I would like to ask for some suggestions before buying my first Windows Phone. (preferably a Lumia)
I would like to buy a WP8.1 phone that can be rooted. I am a little bit confused by all these terminology (flashing, rooting, unlocking, jailbreak, etc...) so let me explain what I mean by rooting:
I need full filesystem access, and the ability to run commands on the phone, install additional software.
The phone is strictly for debugging a certain application, It doesn't matter how the phone looks and such, the only thing matters it need to have Windows 8.1 and I have to be able to root it.
Can you please tell me which Windows 8.1 devices can be rooted currently?
Can you please recommend me such device(s) that is 100% rootable?

No Windows Phone can be 100% rooted.

You can use Developer tools to debugging
galaris said:
Hello people,
I would like to ask for some suggestions before buying my first Windows Phone. (preferably a Lumia)
I would like to buy a WP8.1 phone that can be rooted. I am a little bit confused by all these terminology (flashing, rooting, unlocking, jailbreak, etc...) so let me explain what I mean by rooting:
I need full filesystem access, and the ability to run commands on the phone, install additional software.
The phone is strictly for debugging a certain application, It doesn't matter how the phone looks and such, the only thing matters it need to have Windows 8.1 and I have to be able to root it.
Can you please tell me which Windows 8.1 devices can be rooted currently?
Can you please recommend me such device(s) that is 100% rootable?
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Root is a concept derived from Linux. So little Windows Phone users talk about this. For your purpose, the Widows Developer tools should do the trick.

As per my suggestion.
There is Huawei WP8.0 Device. That you can even unlocked Bootloader or can flash custom ROM. (You can update it to the 8.1 or v10)
Other Samsung/Lumia Device (Having SD-Card Support) can be Interop/Capability unlocked to test high-privileges application. (Pure App Developer Mode)
Any WP 8.0 Supports WP 8.1/WP10*

galaris said:
Hello people,
I would like to ask for some suggestions before buying my first Windows Phone. (preferably a Lumia)
I would like to buy a WP8.1 phone that can be rooted. I am a little bit confused by all these terminology (flashing, rooting, unlocking, jailbreak, etc...) so let me explain what I mean by rooting:
I need full filesystem access, and the ability to run commands on the phone, install additional software.
The phone is strictly for debugging a certain application, It doesn't matter how the phone looks and such, the only thing matters it need to have Windows 8.1 and I have to be able to root it.
Can you please tell me which Windows 8.1 devices can be rooted currently?
Can you please recommend me such device(s) that is 100% rootable?
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I suggest you a lumia 830, best balance performance and possiblity to hack slot sd card, it's a new series lumia x30 and you can interop ulock it with rom rebuilder or vcreg mods!!

At present, there are no publicly available hacks that I know of for "100% root" on a WP8.x device. Capability unlock - which only requires registry editing - is the closest you can get right now, I think. Interop/capability unlocks typically also mean full file system access - either on-device, via USB, or both - though you may still run into restrictions (for example, you can't edit or delete a file that the OS has a non-shared HANDLE open on).
Samsung phones probably have the most interop/capability-unlock software released for them, but the other options that @djamol suggested above would work too.

theres the developer unlock which gives you more but not 100% root.
as far as is know there is no complete unlock yet for all WP after WP7.

Thank you all, greatly appreciate your input!
I went with Samsung ATIV S !

Android on Alcatel Idol 4S Windows edition

Hi everyone!
I was wondering if it's possible to flash android on the Alcatel Idol 4s Windows edition. The reason why i am asking is because i noticed that the TCL 950 (android smartphone) shares exactly the same SOC and specs with the Alcatel Idol 4s and it is actually made by the exact same company (TCL). It is basically the exact same phone, with a different brand on it and a different OS.
So i was wondering, would it be possible to flash the TCL 950 firmware on the Idol 4S windows in order to install Android on it? If yes, did any of you guys had the chance to find the firmware for the TCL 950? Cause i searched for it but didn't have any luck...
Thank you so much in advance!
I saw also that @compu829 commented a while back on the argument

steinwayer said:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if it's possible to flash android on the Alcatel Idol 4s Windows edition. The reason why i am asking is because i noticed that the TCL 950 (android smartphone) shares exactly the same SOC and specs with the Alcatel Idol 4s and it is actually made by the exact same company (TCL). It is basically the exact same phone, with a different brand on it and a different OS.
So i was wondering, would it be possible to flash the TCL 950 firmware on the Idol 4S windows in order to install Android on it? If yes, did any of you guys had the chance to find the firmware for the TCL 950? Cause i searched for it but didn't have any luck...
Thank you so much in advance!
I saw also that @compu829 commented a while back on the argument
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I still haven't found the firmware myself. As long as it was signed with the same certificate and windows phone, it should be possible.

compu829 said:
I still haven't found the firmware myself. As long as it was signed with the same certificate and windows phone, it should be possible.
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After doing some heavy research i managed to find it!! Here it is, the TCL 950 firmware
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1geDBRnt
It is the official firmware directly from TCL i managed to talk with their assistance in China
@compu829 how can i flash this firmware now on my idol 4s??
Thank you so much in advance

@steinwayer I will need to download and extract it. I'll take a look later today.

Thanks @compu829
Did you find anything interesting ?

I'm interested in the possibilities here too. Thanks for your research and sharing it!

steinwayer said:
Thanks @compu829
Did you find anything interesting ?
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I can't download it. Can you? If so can you put it somewhere like mega.co.nz?
I was able to download the package and re-upload it to mega with some help from my friends. Here is the link: https://mega.nz/#!ITJhjYIS!R_iUZhGZMcslAK_u1wdsJ-7q-0D5ma_KrHl4pu2CPqo
I took a quick look, and it is pretty much all mbn files that the factory would flash during assembly, so you will (most likely) need a copy of QPST. We may also be able to use WDRT to flash it. In either case, flashing will fail miserably if the certificates don't match.

So how would you suggest to do this @compu829?

steinwayer said:
So how would you suggest to do this @compu829?
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... In either case, flashing will fail miserably if the certificates don't match.
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^^^ You probably won't be able to easily. At this point, no one here knows, but as @compu829 stated, if the certificates don't match (which they most likely don't), then you're not going to be flashing it at this point.

Would it not be possible to "force" the flashing of that image? Afer all the devices are exactly the same from an hardware perspective..

steinwayer said:
Would it not be possible to "force" the flashing of that image? Afer all the devices are exactly the same from an hardware perspective..
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Same hardware != same implementation. There's mechanisms that will only allow certain things to be flashed, while all protections are still enabled on the device. Since it's a newer phone, I imagine qualcomm's security mechanisms are stepped up as opposed to how they are on older SoC implementations.
If anything, it will NOT be an easy feat to accomplish, so I will say no to a way of "forcing" it to flash at the moment.

It makes perfect sense
What i was thinking tho is that probably the two devices have even a different bootloader. Meaning that it would be a total wipe of the entire disk including swap partition and try to flash that rom.
I was thinking: imagine a bricked device, sometimes is possible to wipe out completely the memory on it and just flash the right rom. Sadly i do not habe much experience in mobile devices.. been developing only for desktops for years.
But if you guys manage to accomplish that it would be great.
The alcatel idol 4s is a great phone for both specs and design and is currently EXTREMELY cheap to. Buy on ebay (you can even find it at 100 bucks) mainly because of its OS
Being able to turn it into an Android phone would be an amazing feat

snickler said:
Same hardware != same implementation. There's mechanisms that will only allow certain things to be flashed, while all protections are still enabled on the device. Since it's a newer phone, I imagine qualcomm's security mechanisms are stepped up as opposed to how they are on older SoC implementations.
If anything, it will NOT be an easy feat to accomplish, so I will say no to a way of "forcing" it to flash at the moment.
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Also, a very important factor is that the phones are made by the same shenzhen manufacturer most likely in the same plant. The only thingthey really change is the logo on the back, which comes later on, and the OS.from aanufacturing perspective it would not make much sense to lock with certificates the devices,slowing quite a bit he manufacturing process.it would have sense if the two devices were to be released in the same country, but in this case, tcl 950 is just available in asia, where idol 4s isnot. How can we verify this certificate thing @compu829 ? We have an Idol 4s

hello @snickler do you think that doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwkx5CFRFKo
would give me a chance of success?
Also, in case of failure for differente certificates, do you think the process would not even start or would it start and brick my device?
Thanks

Update: I am trying to let QFIL to see my device.
First i put my device in flash mode by shutting it down and then immediately pressing and holding the volume up key. It goes in flash mode. I launch QFIL , connect the phone over the USB port, but the tool does not see my device.. i tried installing several qualcomm usb drivers, but till now no luck.
You guys have any suggestions??
@snickler @compu829 ?
Thanks in advance

It won't work. This is for phones stuck in QDLoader 9008 mode (DEAD MODE) and DLOAD mode. The Sahara protocol only accepts signed programmers that are stored in the UEFI. You also need the exact flashers for the particular phone for it to work as it's specific to the phone's bootloader (which is definitely signed)

snickler said:
It won't work. This is for phones stuck in QDLoader 9008 mode (DEAD MODE) and DLOAD mode. The Sahara protocol only accepts signed programmers that are stored in the UEFI. You also need the exact flashers for the particular phone for it to work as it's specific to the phone's bootloader (which is definitely signed)
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Which method would you suggest me to try??

steinwayer said:
Update: I am trying to let QFIL to see my device.
First i put my device in flash mode by shutting it down and then immediately pressing and holding the volume up key. It goes in flash mode. I launch QFIL , connect the phone over the USB port, but the tool does not see my device.. i tried installing several qualcomm usb drivers, but till now no luck.
You guys have any suggestions??
@snickler @compu829 ?
Thanks in advance
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I don't know what QFIL is, but vol up and power will put the windows phone in a flash mode that is compatible with WDRT. This mode is completely different than the Qualcomm mode. You most likely need to intentionally brick your device to enable Qualcomm recovery mode.

steinwayer said:
Which method would you suggest me to try??
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No method. It's probably not best to randomly try things without understanding the underlying mechanisms and the implications of what could happen in the end.
Honestly, IMO, if you want Android then buy an Android phone. I understand that it would be cool to be able to swap out, but the likelihood of this happening right now is close to zero.

snickler said:
No method. It's probably not best to randomly try things without understanding the underlying mechanisms and the implications of what could happen in the end.
Honestly, IMO, if you want Android then buy an Android phone. I understand that it would be cool to be able to swap out, but the likelihood of this happening right now is close to zero.
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If only i could put my hands on the software they use at tcl to flash their devices...
This is oje of the reasons why smartphones are still way behind computers. Not much freedom of choice and yet theorically it would be more than possible to allow a certain level of freedom on it

Newbie from iPhone moved to android, got some questions please help me..

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Hi, while I am not from the US and don't know about carriers and their specific OS updates I'll try my best to answer your questions
1. All Firmwares for US devices can be found at https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10-plus/firmware/SM-G975U/, I couldn't find your version on the list, it is possible Sam Mobile doesn't keep a track of AT&T.
2. To the best of my knowledge, you need a PC to use Odin (software to flash firmware), a work PC should allow USB access and let you install drivers so that you can update your device.
3. Yes you can Jump versions, and mostly you can jump back too.
4. Yes it will wipe your phone.