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Found this at the transformer forum..
*Phi* said:
Just thought i'll share,
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&feature=more_from_developer
its a multi-format player called MX videoplayer(in case the market link doesnt work).
so far seems good, comparable to mobo player
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Couldn't agree more.
regards
Thanks! Best player so far!
Wish there was a no-ads option, but it's good.
ZanshinG1 said:
Wish there was a no-ads option, but it's good.
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I'm going to send a note to the Dev telling him he should make a Paid, No-Ads option. A while back someone posted a ~95MB .mkv of Planet Earth in 1080P, and while MX player doesn't play it in any usable FPS, no other Xoom player I've seen will even attempt to touch it.
I'd pay $5 for this one. I'm just surprised how limited the Tegra2 HW codecs are; so many of the videos I have play in SW mode (but then again, maybe NVidia hasn't released all the specs necessary to take advantage of them?)
I really don't get why anyone wants 1080p playback (unless it's for HDMI of course) since it's a 16:10 1280x800 screen, which is 720p (plus the extra 80 rows of pixels for the menu bar).
kcrudup said:
I'm going to send a note to the Dev telling him he should make a Paid, No-Ads option. A while back someone posted a ~95MB .mkv of Planet Earth in 1080P, and while MX player doesn't play it in any usable FPS, no other Xoom player I've seen will even attempt to touch it.
I'd pay $5 for this one. I'm just surprised how limited the Tegra2 HW codecs are; so many of the videos I have play in SW mode (but then again, maybe NVidia hasn't released all the specs necessary to take advantage of them?)
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really nice player indeed.
...but would even kill for a player with playback rate control and pitch correction through... (any dev listening? =] )
brandogg said:
I really don't get why anyone wants 1080p playback (unless it's for HDMI of course) since it's a 16:10 1280x800 screen, which is 720p (plus the extra 80 rows of pixels for the menu bar).
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because no one wants to reencode before watching.
I tested with 720p mkv movies and not work. Screen remains black, but is not running. Any tip? Mobo Player run 720p, but slow or dropping frames.
I have only tested MxVideoPlayer on divx/avi files and it is very similar to Moboplayer. I'd pay for a paid app also without adds if they would add/fix a few things below..
- Auto Rotate option.
- video playback should have option of resume or start over. I found a few bugs playing/resuming on videos that were incomplete. MxVideoPlayer would then show Video Playing Error when clicking on play because video was stuck on that *end spot*. The fix was to reset counters in preference to fix.
- add next/previous video button to toolbar and auto play next video in preferences.
Fix the above and remove adds and then I'll pay for that app.
brandogg said:
I really don't get why anyone wants 1080p playback (unless it's for HDMI of course) since it's a 16:10 1280x800 screen, which is 720p (plus the extra 80 rows of pixels for the menu bar).
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Who wants 1080(p)?
1080p will be on the Xoom 2..the screen on that thing goes way beyond 1080p.
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Well I guess I get it if you have a 1080p movie that you want to watch on your PC, PS3, etc, and don't want to download (or *ahem* re-encode) a 720p version. That makes sense then.
I'm intrigued by, and appreciative of, the suggestion. I did download and try it, but I don't see anything to tear me away from Act 1 (which I've been quite happy with). Probably, I don't understand which format to use - but, I tried re-encoding a movie at 1080 and MX Video wouldn't play it any better than Act 1. Which is to say, I got a "format not supported" message and no joy...
Any ideas why this app (MX videoplayer) needs our GPS location?
this app is cool.
Thanks for sharing.
REgards
you guys see a diff between s/w code and h/w codec. Seems the same
It is not working for me, are there requirements for specific mkv codecs?? my mkv files never worked proporly 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2 with mobo, rockplayer or this one (just tried with 3.2)
Nothing will play in HW, it all plays SW. Even when I uninstall and reinstall both the app and codec.
Thanks happened to me with Mobo Player as well.
Stock, non-rooted, US WiFi only on 3.2.
Any ideas?
Timbledore said:
Nothing will play in HW, it all plays SW. Even when I uninstall and reinstall both the app and codec.
Thanks happened to me with Mobo Player as well.
Stock, non-rooted, US WiFi only on 3.2.
Any ideas?
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What kind of files are you trying to play? HW mode means that the app will make use of the Tegra2 hardware acceleration.
That means it will be subjected to the limitations of the Tegra 2 chip. The Tegra 2 chip can only decode certain 720p h264 formats with certain profiles and up to a certain bitrate. Let's not even go into 1080p.
Not only that, the Tegra 2 can only decode certain audio streams as well, so if your videos are in AC3 audio, you have to reencode the audio to something like AAC.
You can use a program like Mediainfo to check what formats your video files are in.
Edit: I think some folks are still not familiar with video formats and what the extensions mean. Mkv is just a container format for video files, similar to Avi. What's important is what codecs are used to encode the video and audio streams.
For example Avi files usually have divx/xvid encoded video streams and mp3 audio streams, mkv files have h264/mpeg4 AVC video streams and AC3/AAC audio streams.
So 3rd party apps are just able to open up these video containers and attempt to decode the video and audio streams for your viewing.
But they will use the CPU to process them using the app's built in codecs where possible if the chipset doesn't support it.
You can refer to the official specs of the Tegra 2 to determine what kind of video/audio compression formats it can decode.
So technically, the Xoom can playback avi files encoded with divx but because using software to decode requires some licencing fee in certain scenarios so that's why Honeycomb has no basic support because being "open source", Google did not pay for the licenses to playback some of the supported video formats. I may be wrong about this but it makes sense.
If you see other tablets like the Transformer or the Acer Iconia, you will realize they can playback more formats because the manufacturers probably paid for extra licenses and added playback capability into the OS. At least that's what I figured out.
musashiken said:
What kind of files are you trying to play? HW mode means that the app will make use of the Tegra2 hardware acceleration.
That means it will be subjected to the limitations of the Tegra 2 chip. The Tegra 2 chip can only decode certain 720p h264 formats with certain profiles and up to a certain bitrate. Let's not even go into 1080p.
Not only that, the Tegra 2 can only decode certain audio streams as well, so if your videos are in AC3 audio, you have to reencode the audio to something like AAC.
You can use a program like Mediainfo to check what formats your video files are in.
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Thanks, these are mostly xVid with AC3.
Mainly TV shows that I have missed. I rarely have time at home to catch up and more time on the move.
Hello everyone,
I'm new here, I don't know nothing about what you are all talking about here ^^ BUT a friend told me that the new update allow the O2X to play MKV files > Is that true ? He told me trough an email.
I happy with the version I have right now and if it supports mkv with the new update, I will definitely install it.
Thanks for reading me.
I think we could always do it with certain programmes because the mobile can process it. But according to wikipedia, 4.0 reproduces mkv natively so yes, it should.
ads88 said:
I think we could always do it with certain programmes because the mobile can process it. But according to wikipedia, 4.0 reproduces mkv natively so yes, it should.
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can you provide me the link please :victory:
dawizard11 said:
Hello everyone,
I'm new here, I don't know nothing about what you are all talking about here ^^ BUT a friend told me that the new update allow the O2X to play MKV files > Is that true ? He told me trough an email.
I happy with the version I have right now and if it supports mkv with the new update, I will definitely install it.
Thanks for reading me.
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Hi friend,
Yes the latest V30a ICS update allows MKV format to play on native video player app.Also flv video format is also supported by the native video player.Checked on my O2x.Just that 1080pi full HD videos are not supported yet.So have fun watching vids or movies without the inconvenience of converting
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Hi friend,
Yes the latest V30a ICS update allows MKV format to play on native video player app.Also flv video format is also supported by the native video player.Checked on my O2x.Just that 1080pi full HD videos are not supported yet.So have fun watching vids or movies without the inconvenience of converting
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Thanks I will definitely update ! Mkv + hdmi on the O2X make it a good device.
:good: for the flv, my friend didn't know that
The O2X has been able to play MKV's since Gingerbread...but only to a low profile level. MKV's downloaded (tv shows etc) are all 720p HIGH Profile and the phone could not support that as the Tegra chip couldnt handle the HIGH profile.
Are you saying that our phones can now play 720p HIGH profile MKV's...because, if it can, I may actually update!
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The O2X has been able to play MKV's since Gingerbread...but only to a low profile level. MKV's downloaded (tv shows etc) are all 720p HIGH Profile and the phone could not support that as the Tegra chip couldnt handle the HIGH profile.
Are you saying that our phones can now play 720p HIGH profile MKV's...because, if it can, I may actually update!
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i try using mxplayer, with 720p High profile @L4.1 still the video lags and not smooth using s/w decoder. i think with handheld, it can't play mkv with high profile. only use low profile and it's playback smoothly
Thanks to Ncyde47 on another thread here...a much better explanation....
You can run 720p or 1080p fluid.. spawndk from the eepad transformer forum:
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
So basically, you have to reencode videos just like on ipad..
ruggs1234 said:
The O2X has been able to play MKV's since Gingerbread...but only to a low profile level. MKV's downloaded (tv shows etc) are all 720p HIGH Profile and the phone could not support that as the Tegra chip couldnt handle the HIGH profile.
Are you saying that our phones can now play 720p HIGH profile MKV's...because, if it can, I may actually update!
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Friend,
As you said that O2x was able to play MKV video format since GB but in a low profile level.But after the O2x was updated to latest V30a ICS upgrade the native video player app is supporting more formats and can play 720p high profile MKV video formats.I tried to play 720p BRRIP x264 dual audio.mkv movie and it played smoothly, without any audio delay as experienced in GB.Only problem that i faced with native video player was that i was unable to select the preferred audio language in dual audio mkv file as there is no option to select audio language.Other wise native video player is superb:good:.
Thread moved. Please post all question threads here in Q&A in future where they belong.
Thanks
AvRS
that is great to know. love mkv.
L3.1 can be called High profile yet and O2x can handle it with 720p. sometimes i find some video that physicaly gets over phone posibilities. its played with HW decoder and its not very smooth.
if you want to made 1080p videos, use handbrake and set the settings with tegra decoding possibility manual. But i dont know if something changed with ICS, but i was not able mount SD card with other FS than fat32 and there is not posible to have file with more size than 4GB and its not enough for 1080p movie in low profile
arvindlakra21 said:
Friend,
As you said that O2x was able to play MKV video format since GB but in a low profile level.But after the O2x was updated to latest V30a ICS upgrade the native video player app is supporting more formats and can play 720p high profile MKV video formats.I tried to play 720p BRRIP x264 dual audio.mkv movie and it played smoothly, without any audio delay as experienced in GB.Only problem that i faced with native video player was that i was unable to select the preferred audio language in dual audio mkv file as there is no option to select audio language.Other wise native video player is superb:good:.
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You attached thumbnail indicates that what you were sucessfully watching was indeed an MKV file (a 720p rip) but it does not indicate the profile of the file.
Most downloaded high definition MKV video files, especially tv shows, are MKV files (at 720p) encoded to HIGH profile level 4.0 or above. In Gingerbread these files would not play unless they were converted to mp4 at a lower profile than HIGH (I used BASELINE). This is a limitation of the Tegra 2 chipset in the phone.
Your Cloverfield file is an MKV, but I strongly suspect that the profile of the file is lower than HIGH (the file size is too small for a high definition, HIGH profile encoded movie with that runtime)
Sadly, im still not convinced the phone will play an MKV high definition file encoded at HIGH Profile 4.0 or above. And I dont intend to risk upgrading to ICS (with all the problems that could bring) to find out.
However, I would love to be proved wrong....
Any idea if this SoC can handle it i.e krait with h/w(+)? I don't care about other issues like color banding or blocks I just wanna know if can decode hi10 videoes with hardware or not.
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Any idea if this SoC can handle it i.e krait with h/w(+)? I don't care about other issues like color banding or blocks I just wanna know if can decode hi10 videoes with hardware or not.
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h/w decoding.. not sure.
MX Player on my T will play 10bit video files in s/w fine.
Just as any device made in 2011 or later with a dualcore cpu @ 1ghz or better it'll play 10bit "fine" in s/w mode. However, that is neither my question nor my point. If it's that hard to just try out a file in h/w+ then I might as well try else wear.
Point me to a file and I'll gladly run a test for you. Np.
I watch quite a bit of anime, and a lot of releases nowadays are 10-bit only and in 1280 x 720 resolution. I use MX Player now, but I've used Moboplayer previously with the same results.
My findings were as follows:
- All 10-bit video goes through the software decoder. MX and Mobo player both will refuse to use hardware mode, complaining that the video is not supported.
- The software decoder can handle 10-bit 720p video reasonably well, so long as there is not a lot of fast motion. When that kind of scene occurs, audio and video will start to desync, and it usually needs a pause and/or manual fast forward/rewind to get the audio and video back in sync.
- If you use soft subtitles (such as in an MKV file), the above desync will be far more likely to happen and far more pronounced. It also makes it very clear that the problem is with the video software decoder, as the soft subs and the audio will always remain more or less in sync.
In comparison:
- 8-bit videos of up to 1080p play via the hardware decoder and hence are silky smooth.
- Soft subtitles are not a problem for such videos.
All these findings are *not* group/encoder specific. 10-bit 720p videos from *any* fansubbing group will always go through s/w, and will always lag at fast action points.
Notes:
- I have not tried watching a lower res 10-bit video on the phone, primarily because nobody in the fansubbing scene releases a 10-bit video at less than 720p. There is a possibility that the software decoder will be able to play lower res 10-bit video with no problems.
- There is the possibility that the encoding settings that most fansubbers use are ridiculously and unnecessarily high in bitrate, or have some other settings that basically cause the software decoder on our phones to choke on the videos. I cannot confirm this nor do I have connections to current fansubbers who could share their settings.
- There is the possibility that it's Sony's implementation of the software decoder that is at fault. Turning the Bravia engine on and off doesn't seem to have an effect, but other parts of the software decoder that are beyond user control may simply be inefficient.
Lastly, according to my reading, so far the only chipsets that *can* run soft-subbed 720p 10-bit videos more or less flawlessly are the 4-cores. The 4-core Tegra 3 certainly can, with tweaking. I think the Exynos and 4-core Qualcomms can too, but I can't confirm it. I'm not sure if any of these have hardware decoder support for 10-bit.
Try Dice player or VLC from the market. I'm not absolutely sure but I believe those use their own decoding framework and you might get better results.
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Just as any device made in 2011 or later with a dualcore cpu @ 1ghz or better it'll play 10bit "fine" in s/w mode. However, that is neither my question nor my point. If it's that hard to just try out a file in h/w+ then I might as well try else wear.
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Well with that kind of attitude I shall not help you in the future.
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I've already had friends test up multiple SoC's, and it seems only Tegra 3 has the instructions set for Hi10, thanks though. Again, any device with a 1Ghz dual-core SoC will handle 8bit videos flawlessly up to 1080p with h/w. And once again I keep getting answers that they CAN play 10bit files with s/w which again was never part of the question. Most players for android are based on ffmpeg which kinda defeats the purpose of trying others apart from the renderer itself.
And for those wondering, the limitation comes from your SoC not the player in the long run.
Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
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Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
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Try playing MP4 1080p files..they just play fine
and may be its because for both video and audio (5.1) you need S/W decoding and this may be the reason for your lag too
Even with S/W decoding too it should work but causes a lot of battery drain
I reset the settings and using S/W decoding everywhere. I restarted my phone and now it's working fine. I guess a good ole reboot did the trick.
I'm also using RGB 16-bit. I tried RGB 32-bit mode and haven't noticed any slowdowns or noticeable differences.
The original video file was actually in MP4 format but i wanted to mux the subtitle into it to end up with only one MKV file (instead of an MP4 file and its corresponding .sub subtitle file), so i used MKVtoolnix to merge the .sub file into it. Maybe it's the .sub file giving MX Player some extra work. Usually, .srt subtitle files are much lighter in terms of file size and for decoding as well.
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Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
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the solution to your problem is simple,... you should try to play with s/w decoder in your mxplayer and it will go fine, it also offers much more loudness adjustments compare to h/w decoder,. you will see the option in front of you! xD
Personally i use hw+ decoder for every supported format. It plays 1080p videos very smooth here. For all the other formats you should try sw with yuv instead of 16bit or 32bit rgb.
mcrenz said:
the solution to your problem is simple,... you should try to play with s/w decoder in your mxplayer and it will go fine, it also offers much more loudness adjustments compare to h/w decoder,. you will see the option in front of you! xD
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very nice, you don't read but give advice..., dude he said already use S/W
@topic i recommand use h/w instead and test with other video files also.
hw vs sw decoder?
I thought hardware is the only way to go and software is for last resort. My AC3s are playing back in stereo and now I'm trying to figure out why...
Thanks in advance...
Hey guys,
Recently, I took over my dad's touchpad, and installed CM11 on it (milaq, 1/9/14). I have a lot of 720p anime encoded in h264 10-bit video. When I tried to play it,
* BS Player doesn't output subtitles as they were typeset, also lags a bit.
* MX outputs subtitles alright, but cannot play it without massive lag. It doesn't allow me to select the H/W decoder.
* Dice just crashes.
* VLC gets diarrhea and doesn't even play beyond the first scene.
Has anybody had any luck with playing any 10-bit, 720p video on their touchpad? If so, could you tell me what you did?
(For reference, the file I used was Commie's Hanamonogatari.)
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Hey guys,
Recently, I took over my dad's touchpad, and installed CM11 on it (milaq, 1/9/14). I have a lot of 720p anime encoded in h264 10-bit video. When I tried to play it,
* BS Player doesn't output subtitles as they were typeset, also lags a bit.
* MX outputs subtitles alright, but cannot play it without massive lag. It doesn't allow me to select the H/W decoder.
* Dice just crashes.
* VLC gets diarrhea and doesn't even play beyond the first scene.
Has anybody had any luck with playing any 10-bit, 720p video on their touchpad? If so, could you tell me what you did?
(For reference, the file I used was Commie's Hanamonogatari.)
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I have not used commiesub for year. Try with MX Player to download the plugin for codec manualy (store version don't work) and link it from the option. If my video lag, normaly, hw+ work. It only happened 1 times from some french sub than hw+ did not work with 10bit 1080p, otherwise it should work fine. Normaly, the best and stable sub for VLC's Deadfish and Horriblesubs, otherwise, MX Player's the only one working with 10bit video. If it still lag, you might need to overclock the cpu and put 16bit video in the performance setting of the TP.