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You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
Probably a dumb question but can we connect the NC to a fixed line (Cat 5) internet connection. Sometimes no wifi but a wire connection is available.
Of course would need some type of USB to Cat 5 connector.
Does such a thing exist?
I don't know if you'll find what you're looking for, but i'm not ruling out the option.
Meantime, if you can access a cat5 line, and you're looking at buying hardware anyway, why not get a wireless access point?
(I am curious to see if you can do what you are asking, and I don't want this thread to die on the 'get an access point' cop out)
CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?
I have a motorhome sitting beside my house and cannot get a wifi signal so I ran a cat5 cable out there to a cradelpoint wifi unit so I now have wifi through the coach.
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Assuming a driver is available in the kernel for the Ethernet chipset in question, you *might* be able to use something like the Wii USB-to-Ethernet adapter combined with a USB type converter. I've no idea at all what it will do to the normal network stack, but it's _theoretically_ possible.
Rodney
votinh said:
CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?
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Actually not really, XJack.
But seriously though, ethernet on a tablet. Heh.
Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet
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Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet
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I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..
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I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..
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Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.
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Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.
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Didn't even think about it that way.
I know they got Ubuntu running on the NC (Not sure how well). Surely there is a wired usb nic that supports Ubuntu. I'm thinking that might be the best way.
I just bought my NC, should be here in a few days. I might just have to play with this..
What about Dalingrin's Nook Tweeks app? Using 'USB Settings > USB Host Mode' can we possibly attach a USB NIC?
I have not played with the USB Host Mode just yet, but I know I got excited when I saw it
Just wanted to link to [webcam support] USB Host support that YOU can try (now in nightlies)...some interesting discussion going on over there too....
Not too sure if I understood correctly your current setup, hopefully I won't recommend you something you have already done/thought about.
For the moment, a quick an easy way would be to plug a wireless router at the end of the network cable and then setup the wireless network. You could then connect to that wireless router with your nook.
Basically, it would look like this (inline text doesn't make a good illustration, but it's better than nothing)...
Router 1 ------(network cable)---------Router 2)))))))(wifi wave)))))))Nook
Sure you will need to setup the router correctly, but it's still very easy to do.
Hi all,
I've got an old Nexus One lying around, and I was thinking, why not use it to make a WiFi Hard drive?
Originally, I was just going to use Android Assistant to clean up my startup and Samba FileSharing to share, and making a case that basically plugs into the wall with a 2.5" HD.
My question is this: From a software perspective, what is the quickest way to get the Nexus One to boot up and run what's required? Are there any trimmed down ROMs that may suit my needs better?
Thanks,
Ben
1. To do it you need the hard drive connected to the Nexus, which you can't do unless you have USB Host-capable kernel running on Nexus and USB2SATA adapter to your HD. To my knowledge, there is no USB host support in the kernels you might want to use, and the kernel that supports it doesn't allow charging.
2. Even if you find the way around the 1st problem, which is unlikely, you're going to get sub-1MB/s transfer speeds. I have a real NAS at home, and after tweaking my 802.11g WiFi adapters in laptops I'm succeeding to pull 3MB/s, and I don't plan on even starting to use it until I get the 802.11n miniPCIe card for the laptop that's going to use this NAS, and reach 7-8MB/s at least. So I believe you might find a much better use for your Nexus. Or just save it until you have kids, they'll have a nice toy (if you're a teenager, disregard this suggestion).
I've decided to put together a Nexus 7 car install after pricing up an OEM retrofit for my E90 & quickly getting north of £1200 with no guarantees that everything would work as I wanted.
I've used Android devices to provide navigation & audio since getting a HTC Desire many years ago, but I've been caught out a couple of times recently using navigation on long journeys with my HTC One-X completely flattening its battery despite being on charge the whole time!! The last time left me navigation-less in a strange city, in rush hour traffic, with no way to contact anyone.
I've been reading around Nexus 7 car installs today & everything that I would like to do seems to have been done before, but I'd like some ideas for the best way to pull it all togther.
The main use for the Nexus will be to provide navigation & audio. I gather that Timur's kernel - USB ROM contains features which are suited to using the Nexus in a car install - are there any other ROMs I should have a look at?
I would like the install to look as professional as possible but be removable & reversible, so I'm thinking of a mounting it in a SHG-NX2000, & I would prefer to use a single USB connection to the Nexus rather than a USB & 3.5mm so from my googling today I gather I can achieve this with an OTG USB cable & a USB DAC.
I've not used an OTG cable before, but the ones I've seen on ebay seem only to be a couple of inches long - can anyone provide a link to longer one or can I just use an extension cable & stick the OTG cable near the hub? The idea I've got in mind is to run the host OTG cable from the Nexus into a powered USB hub located in the glove box or behind the dash. I would supply the power to the hub from a DC-DC convertor to make sure everything gets the power it needs. Are hubs usually wired to supply power to the host device as well as the connected devices? Are OTG cables available which allow the power to be supplied to the host? If so, I could use one of the ports on the powered hub to supply power to the Nexus via the OTG cable.
I don't have a spare line level input to my stock BMW headunit, but I do have an aux in on a 3.5mm socket which I don't mind re-routing & hard wiring to the output of the DAC - can someone link to a USB DAC best suited to this task?
I would also like to install a reversing camera. There are cameras available which either replace a license plate light, or mount around the license plate - I would prefer to use one of these over a webcam. I had an idea of using an Easycap to connect the license plate cam to the USB hub - has anyone done this? The license plate cams pick up their power from the reversing lights - is there a way of using the fact of the camera powering up to switch the Nexus to auto display the feed from camera when the car is put in to reverse? Taking this idea a step further, has anyone configured a system where if the car is then subsequently taken out of reverse gear the Nexus switches to a forward facing camera either for a fixed amount of time or until reverse gear is re-selected to give you alternating rear/forward views when parking up?
Shopping list so far:
Nexus 7 (1st gen) £119
SHG-NZ2000 £22.39
DC-DC convertor £5.50
10-port powered hub £6.19
Micro USB OTG Host £1.99
E90 License plate light CCD camera £17.00
Easycap £3.37
USB DAC £11.49
Total so far ~£185
Anything I've missed? Better components? Cheaper prices?
Any help or ideas greatly appreciated
I would think the only way for a rear cam to work is to modify it and your tablet ...no usb input... You could try to use the housing of a rear cam and put a web cam it and seal it up good then use that .... That way you'll get a wide veiwing angle ....
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'no usb input'? I'm talking about connecting the CCD camera via the Easycap to the USB hub which is connected to the Nexus. It is because I don't think I'll be able to reseal the housing well enough that I don't want to use a webcam, plus the CCD cameras are powered when reverse is selected which I'm hoping should make driving an event easier.
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I would think the only way for a rear cam to work is to modify it and your tablet ...no usb input... You could try to use the housing of a rear cam and put a web cam it and seal it up good then use that .... That way you'll get a wide veiwing angle ....
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Found this on a BMW forum:
Finally sewed up my Nexus 7 install!
It's very similar to what I had in mind. I've ordered the bits so I'll update this thread as & when progress is made.
Reversing camera hooked up to Nexus 7 via UVC Video Grabber
Nexus 7 Backup Camera - UVC Video grabber
Where do you buy that ?
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i was thinking of use official dock mound to the dash to make it look professional and removable(dock + magnets).
not sure if the usb on the back of the dock supports otg or not, cos i wanna connect up reverse camera and dac aswell
I considered doing something similar, but when I looked into it, it would seem that the official dock only charges and passes audio
eason86 said:
i was thinking of use official dock mound to the dash to make it look professional and removable(dock + magnets).
not sure if the usb on the back of the dock supports otg or not, cos i wanna connect up reverse camera and dac aswell
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Any joy?
dreamonn said:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'no usb input'? I'm talking about connecting the CCD camera via the Easycap to the USB hub which is connected to the Nexus. It is because I don't think I'll be able to reseal the housing well enough that I don't want to use a webcam, plus the CCD cameras are powered when reverse is selected which I'm hoping should make driving an event easier.
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Hi there,
I was just wondering if you had any success with the camera? I've got a Nexus 7 install and want to wire in my existing Rca cam. I'm sorting out the reverse signal with a joycon exr steering wheel control but I want to know if the easycap thing you linked to earlier worked as a capture device on Android or whether I'd have to go for the UVC grabber in the other link which definitely works but is much more expensive!
Thanks!
Any update on these types of cameras?
I want to do the same thing, except the camera is in the front (not the back).
Any success with the EasyCap? It seems they have bad reviews on amazon, but maybe they work great for how we want to use it.
Also, have you tried using a 4 channel EasyCap? That way we could hook multiple cameras.
nexus 7 install
In the process of doing the same to mine.
2013 Nexus 7 rooted with automateit and tasker .
So far I've managed to get it to launch apps when power is supplied and shutdown when power is disconnected. But does anyone know of a way to get it to power on when power is supplied? I've tried reboot when power is supplied, but that only works if the tablet is already on.
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In the process of doing the same to mine.
2013 Nexus 7 rooted with automateit and tasker .
So far I've managed to get it to launch apps when power is supplied and shutdown when power is disconnected. But does anyone know of a way to get it to power on when power is supplied? I've tried reboot when power is supplied, but that only works if the tablet is already on.
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You have to edit the bootloader i did it to mine. just change a line wh ich will tell it to boot any time the power is on....
Here you go found it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833120
I'm installing an Alpine ILX-W650 for Android Auto in my car next week, and noticed it requires simultaneous Bluetooth and USB connection to the phone. I want an easy way to dock my S10 each time I get into my car, something that's quick, easy, secure, looks nice, won't wear down the type C port on my phone, and charge faster than the 1A provided by the Alpine unit.
If I have to custom fabricate a docking cradle that fits just right in my MK6 GTI, I will, but just want to find the best solution. I have a Baseus auto clamping vent mount with the IR detector and Qi fast charging, and could try affixing a magnetic charging+data capable cable to that so the cable is in place to lock onto my phone's port automatically using the magnetic attraction, but have no idea if that will work or not. I read in one forum that someone was able to wirelessly charge their phone while it's plugged in for Android Auto, anyone know if that will work for the S10? My magnetic cables are the Wsken X1 models, I have no idea if they'll work and how reliable a connection they will provide, anyone try something similar?
Another option I'm considering is using the Samsung Dex Pad as a docking station, and mounting the phone horizontally since I will be controlling everything from my voice and Alpine's touchscreen while driving, and won't need to really do anything with my phone. I asked Samsung if it will work, and they said they've never tested it, suggested that I just try it and find out. I don't want to buy the Dex Pad if it's not going to work, has anyone tested that so I don't have to? Probably will anyway, but it from a place with a good return policy, but am hoping someone out there has thought of this and can enlighten me on what to expect.
Thanks!
otizzy said:
I'm installing an Alpine ILX-W650 for Android Auto in my car next week, and noticed it requires simultaneous Bluetooth and USB connection to the phone. I want an easy way to dock my S10 each time I get into my car, something that's quick, easy, secure, looks nice, won't wear down the type C port on my phone, and charge faster than the 1A provided by the Alpine unit.
If I have to custom fabricate a docking cradle that fits just right in my MK6 GTI, I will, but just want to find the best solution. I have a Baseus auto clamping vent mount with the IR detector and Qi fast charging, and could try affixing a magnetic charging+data capable cable to that so the cable is in place to lock onto my phone's port automatically using the magnetic attraction, but have no idea if that will work or not. I read in one forum that someone was able to wirelessly charge their phone while it's plugged in for Android Auto, anyone know if that will work for the S10? My magnetic cables are the Wsken X1 models, I have no idea if they'll work and how reliable a connection they will provide, anyone try something similar?
Another option I'm considering is using the Samsung Dex Pad as a docking station, and mounting the phone horizontally since I will be controlling everything from my voice and Alpine's touchscreen while driving, and won't need to really do anything with my phone. I asked Samsung if it will work, and they said they've never tested it, suggested that I just try it and find out. I don't want to buy the Dex Pad if it's not going to work, has anyone tested that so I don't have to? Probably will anyway, but it from a place with a good return policy, but am hoping someone out there has thought of this and can enlighten me on what to expect.
Thanks!
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Hello, I have a 04 Audi A4 with a 13” screen and a Dex pad under my arm rest. Out of sight and protected. I love it! My monitor lets me connect and control my phone via touch screen. Torque app works well on a 13” screen. I also have a dell d10u that I use for tuning while my main unit is my s10. I have enabled developer mode on my Dex and the use "Dex Max" App, It helps out as well.
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Hello, I have a 04 Audi A4 with a 13” screen and a Dex pad under my arm rest. Out of sight and protected. I love it! My monitor lets me connect and control my phone via touch screen. Torque app works well on a 13” screen. I also have a dell d10u that I use for tuning while my main unit is my s10. I have enabled developer mode on my Dex and the use "Dex Max" App, It helps out as well.
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Id be interested in this too. Can you expand a little on your setup? I'm looking to do the same with adding a larger LCD while maintaining touch-functionality via android. I'm wanting to piece together a 10-13" LCD along with a capacitive usb overlay but haven't verified that the touch would work via android along with my CarPC.
As for docking, I've been using a cheap $8 Ebay USB hub with success in both DeX and AA in my setup.
Hope theses pic are visible. I will have to get my other phone to display my setup with Dex running.
Forgot one.
Not the cleanest installation, not the worst.
My high mileage e85 Audi A4. Sorta a "beater with a heater".
Here are some pictures, the few are with screen mirroring with the aid of seconscreen app, overlay app and a few others. The rest are in Dex mode which yelids a better picture however apps don't auto start in full screen, while driving it can be somewhat cumbersome.
Galaxy s10
Sorry, pictures seem to be upside down.
My in car screen layout.