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Hi,
So i have a Moto G 2 XT-1068 with Android 5.0.2 and system version 22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.ex.03 reteu.
I rooted it and installed Xposed.
Since some days, my phone notify me that there is a new (official) update avalaible :
22.56.3.en.03
My first reflex was to post in the Xposed forum :
I have a Motorola Moto G 2nd edition (2014 XT-1068) with Android 5.0.2 and these xposed versions installed :
XposedInstaller_3.0_alpha4.apk
xposed-v75-sdk21-arm-1
This morning, my phone notify me that there is a newsoftware update available :
22.56.3.en.03
Can i update ?
Will Xposed still running or do i have anything to do before or after update ?
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Yes i'm rooted (i didn't know i could install exposed without root ?!) and i ask the question to rooted users : what is the recommended behavior to have when we are rooted and there is an official update like this one ? Should i ignore it ? Should i wait ? Should i update (with one of your solutions) ?
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and this is the reply i had :
You'll have to ask how an OTA works for that in your device forum.
For Google Android (untouched by OEM) in Kitkat, OTA used to check each important file individually and if one was modified, OTA would fail. This did not check all existing files or added files such as root, so as long as you uninstalled Xposed properly (restoring the original app_process files etc) then an OTA would be fine.
Since Lollipop, OTA checks the /system partition as a single item so any modification in any file, or any additional file will make the OTA fail. In which case, the only way to update would be to flash a stock ROM.
You will need to find out in your device forum which of these applies to your device.
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So this is it, i make a post in this Moto G 2014 forum
Doing the OTA will most likely delete the XposedBridge.jar so you will have to flash it again.
Else the Xposed app will still be available but the Framework won't be installed.
If it doesn't update because the /system partition has been modified, you'll have to flash the whole rom to update.
Ok, so i can try without risk ?
And what about my root ?
nonobio said:
Ok, so i can try without risk ?
And what about my root ?
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Root will be gone too. You'll have to root it again by flashing SuperSu Zip though a custom recovery. (TWRP)
Restore the nandroid backup of the stock system you made in TWRP before you rooted.
You also need the stock recovery for the OTA to install.
You made a backup of your system before you rooted, right?
Hi
TheKill69 said:
Root will be gone too. You'll have to root it again by flashing SuperSu Zip though a custom recovery. (TWRP)
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Ok.
Seriously said:
Restore the nandroid backup of the stock system you made in TWRP before you rooted.
You also need the stock recovery for the OTA to install.
You made a backup of your system before you rooted, right?
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I'm note sure i made a backup before i rooted cause i'm note sure i knew i could install recovery without root but i checked my backup plan and my oldest backup is post root
So, what do you recommand when there is OTA like this ? Should i ignore them ?
It seems to be a hard process (flash stock recovery and root again and not sure if it will be possible anyway, is it ?) for maybe a little update ?
Maybe i should wait for the next big OTA like Android 6, then be sure that a new rooting process exist before update, and also be sure that Xposed will be supported ?
So if i ignore this 22.56.3.en.03, will i be notifyed for others newer OTA (like Android 6 for instance) ?
Thanks
nonobio said:
Hi
Ok.
I'm note sure i made a backup before i rooted cause i'm note sure i knew i could install recovery without root but i checked my backup plan and my oldest backup is post root
So, what do you recommand when there is OTA like this ? Should i ignore them ?
It seems to be a hard process (flash stock recovery and root again and not sure if it will be possible anyway, is it ?) for maybe a little update ?
Maybe i should wait for the next big OTA like Android 6, then be sure that a new rooting process exist before update, and also be sure that Xposed will be supported ?
So if i ignore this 22.56.3.en.03, will i be notifyed for others newer OTA (like Android 6 for instance) ?
Thanks
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You might have to flash the whole stock firmware back to get the stock recovery. Big waste of time.
Then rooting back means using CF Auto Root Commands again..
You have to update to it though if you want Android 6.0.
Since it won't be soon, you rather go for CM13 once it gets really stable.
Also by the way, Xposed is already supported on MM.
Thanks for these precisions.
So if i can resume : a custom rom is easier for enjoy Android updates than just Xposed.
Hi,
Can you confirm :
For someone searching advanced features like customize status bar, quick settings, shutdown menu, hardware buttons, etc : customs roms and "stock rom + exposed" are two solutions. BUT, for someone searching these same advanced features but also keep his device up to date : custom rom is really a better solution. Isn't?
I was happy when i discovered xposed as it seemed to be a easier process that flashing a custom rom, but i didn't know that i couldn't update easily..
So, what is the advantage to use xposed instead of custom rom?
Hi,
I am always thinking if i will update my stock rooted xposed rom, or if i will install a custom rom prerooted like Cyanogen mod (o have easier future updates).
i have some questions :
1- Is it possible to install xposed and modules on a custom rom like cyanogen mod ? I think yes but can you confirm ?
I know that CM come with inbuilt tweaks but i discover some great xposed module i would continue to use, even if i install CM.
2-If i keep my stock rooted xposed rom, and don't make this "little" Android 5 OTA update, will be i notified for "Android 6" ?
(i don't want to lose my time to reflash my rom, reroot mydevice, etc.., just for a little update, but i could do that for a more important update like Android 6...
3- We are agree that if i flash a custom rom like CM, it will resolve my "ota update" problem, cause there won't be "Motorola OTA" anymore, but there will be CM updates easy to make, isn't ? If yes, what could be the advantage to use stock rom rooted + xposed vs custom rom + xposed ?
Thanks
Hi guys,
I tried a couple of years ago disabling encryption on my Nexus 6 and the performance was great, but as updates were released it turned out to be a pain to keep up always having to manually update the phone. My nexus 6 now is crawling and I'm thinking about trying to disable encryption. I could not find any sort of reports if it can be done on 7.1.1
Has anyone tried? Is there any guide? Thanks!
Mephisto_POA said:
Hi guys,
I tried a couple of years ago disabling encryption on my Nexus 6 and the performance was great, but as updates were released it turned out to be a pain to keep up always having to manually update the phone. My nexus 6 now is crawling and I'm thinking about trying to disable encryption. I could not find any sort of reports if it can be done on 7.1.1
Has anyone tried? Is there any guide? Thanks!
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It's no different. If your bootloader is not unlocked, unlocking it will wipe the user data partition. If the bootloader is already unlocked, you'll need to wipe the user data partition.
*IN EITHER CASE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA. DO A BACKUP FIRST
Then flash a ROM with an included kernel that doesn't force encrypt. Or, just flash a kernel that doesn't force encrypt.
Now that I've answered your question, IMHO, it's not worth the effort. If your phone is crawling, do a factory reset. On a stock ROM, go to Settings > Backup & Reset and make sure you have your Google backup settings enabled. Use the Factory Data Reset button to actually reset. READ through the information and confirm. This will cause your phone to reboot with a wiped system partition.
If your on a custom ROM I'm going to assume you know how to wipe through recovery.
ktmom said:
...., IMHO, it's not worth the effort. If your phone is crawling, do a factory reset.....
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My 7.1.1 uses the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
I think you're right about the hassle. Only decrypting is not enough. But debloating and removing unused stuff and decrypting the data partition did raise performance on my N6.
Yeah, I know it is a bit of a hassle, but considering there will be no more updates after 7.1.1 it should be a once only process right? Is possible to disable encryption on 7.1.1. without rooting?
I'm happy to unlock the bootloader and wipe the phone, not a problem.
Mephisto_POA said:
Yeah, I know it is a bit of a hassle, but considering there will be no more updates....
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Don;t forget the monthly security updates.
I am using the lite stock room of Danvdh. It's a pre-rooted stock room.
But I think updates can be dirty flashed because the system, radio and bootloader will not change anymore.
So root and install TWRP to flash the updates
the problem with rooting is that many apps will not work, I'm cool staying without root and vanilla android, I just want to get rid of the encryption
Mephisto_POA said:
the problem with rooting is that many apps will not work, I'm cool staying without root and vanilla android, I just want to get rid of the encryption
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In that case the post of @ktmom is applicable.
I am on 7.1.1 and have used the fed patcher mentioned on this site and it has worked nicely on custom and stock ROMs. But u have to be rooted.
NLBeev said:
In that case the post of @ktmom is applicable.
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I'm a bit illiterate in this aspect, apologies. but I could not find a vanilla android for nexus 6 with just encryption disabled and no root. I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
The NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT seems both to have only modified versions. I'm a bit confused
Mephisto_POA said:
I'm a bit illiterate in this aspect, apologies. but I could not find a vanilla android for nexus 6 with just encryption disabled and no root. I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
The NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT seems both to have only modified versions. I'm a bit confused
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Plain vanilla unencrypted would be google factory image plus a non forced enforcing kernel. B14CKB1RD, Franco there are others.
Custom ROM that is close to vanilla but comes with a non forced encrypting kernel would be Pure Nexus.
Mephisto_POA said:
I would really appreciate if you could give me some directions?
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I have only one direction for you and that's the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
The kernel is the modified part. (no forced encryption).
After flashing this rom, you can unroot by uninstalling supersu.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
NLBeev said:
I have only one direction for you and that's the lite stock rom of Danvdh.
The kernel is the modified part. (no forced encryption).
After flashing this rom, you can unroot by uninstalling supersu.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
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Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
saltyzip said:
Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
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That was an answer to a different question.
The ROM you installed I believe has a non-force encrypting kernel. But just installing a non-force encrypting kernel isn't enough. You need to wipe user data and install a kernel that doesn't force encrypt.
Please read back a page to two for the whole recent conversation that has more details, like the fact that you'll lose all of your data in this process.
saltyzip said:
Hi, I also want to remove encryption from my Nexus 6 Stock as it is a stuttering mess.
I have rooted and installed the stock rom of Danvdh, but to my disappointment on boot up the phone is still showing as encrypted.
Have I done something wrong?
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Got it working, just followed this:
Just because forced encryption is disabled doesn't mean it decrypts you. You have to do that yourself by formatting data either through TWRP (TWRP > Wipe > Format Data button) or through fastboot (fastboot format userdata), which will wipe out your app data and your internal storage partition so make the appropriate backups.
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Got it working, just followed this:
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You going to take credit, you should at least use your own words ?
I've gone with your guys suggestion with stock lite, working like a charm, very snappy. The phone feels indeed light, and multitasking is way smoother now, thanks!!!
just on a side note, after you install the rom you need to wipe the data partition to get rid of the encryption
Installed twrp on bn Nexus 6 os 5.1 OTA for 7.1.1 encrypted it
No clue how to fix this I'm a noob unlocked bootloader unencrypted Android 5 then it OTA updated to 7.1.1 and now can't get to twrp to wipe encryption how can I get this going again phones working just can't use cable to computer have the SD card reader micro SD any help would be appreciated
kudabee61 said:
...just can't use cable to computer...
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Get your phone's USB port fixed, then you can fix the ROM issue.
Ok so I've seen a lot of confusion on how to correctly flash OxygenOS on your brand new OnePlus 5, and also how to correctly and easily root your phone.. This guide aims to clear up any confusion regarding this. Ready? Let's move on.
Q: What's the difference between International and Chinese versions of the OnePlus 5?
A: Hardware-wise there is absolutely no difference between the 2 versions. In terms of software, the international version runs OxygenOS (OOS) while the Chinese version runs HydrogenOS(H2OS). H2OS has no Google services pre-installed and is generally not recommended for use outside China. Both OxygenOS and HydrogenOS are official updates by OnePlus.
Q: I bought a Chinese phone. How do I install OxygenOS then?
A: 1. Download the latest OxygenOS from here. Download the full zip and NOT the OTA update.
2. Place it in the root of your internal memory. Basically don't put the file in any folder.
3. Go to Settings > System updates, press the gear icon and select Local upgrade.
4. Choose the file, the phone will boot into recovery and everything is done.
Q: OK I want to root my phone but I don't want to lose Android Pay, Netflix, Pokemon GO etc. Is it possible?
Simple answer: Yes. Long answer: Maybe not in the long run.
Why is that so? You see, back in the old days there were little downsides to rooting. Alas, Android Pay and Pokemon GO came along, and in an effort to tighten up security, Google implemented this thing called
SafetyNet. Basically it's a measure to test your system integrity, meaning that any modification to system will trigger SafetyNet and many apps will be "locked down". Android Pay and Pokemon GO will not work,
and Netflix won't show up on Google Play anymore. Some devices even check for unlocked bootloader, but apparently not the OnePlus 5, so you don't have to switch to a custom kernel to root.
To overcome this problem, the brilliant minds at XDA came up with system-less root. Chainfire was the first to implement it in SuperSU, but right now nobody uses SuperSU anymore. Magisk is the new kid in town,
and quite frankly much better IMO.
Q: Alright enough talk, how do I root the phone?
A: Patience my young Padawan. I will get to that in a moment. But here are some things you have to know.
1. Rooting involves unlocking your bootloader, and ALL YOUR DATA WILL BE WIPED. Keep a backup and move everything in your internal memory somewhere else.
2. Magisk may beat SafetyNet now, but there is no guarantee this will always be the case. So your SafetyNet enabled apps may not work all the time.
3. OTA updates from OnePlus will work differently when you are rooted. But hey that's what this guide is for. :good:
Easy rooting guide
1. Install ADB drivers.
2. Go into settings > about phone. Press the build no. a few times to activate developer options.
3. Turn on developer options, OEM unlocking and USB debugging.
4. Connect phone to PC and allow ADB access on phone. Wait for drivers to finish installing.
5. Download and install this simple tool on your PC.
6. Download one of the 2 TWRP recoveries below.
TWRP Official
xdvs23's TWRP
7. Open the All-in-One tool and make sure your device is recognised as OnePlus 5. Click on Unlock bootloader. Your bootloader is now unlocked and all your DATA WILL BE WIPED!
8. Select the "and boot it" arrow and click flash TWRP, click manual mode and choose the TWRP.img file you downloaded earlier.
9. After everything is done, your phone should now boot into TWRP successfully. Do not reboot yet.
10. On your PC, download the latest version of Magisk. Place the zip file onto your phone using USB and flash it with TWRP. Clear cache and reboot into system.
11. You should now see a new app called Magisk Manager. Check for updates!
12. However, do keep in mind not to mess around the system. If you need something, check to see if there any Magisk Modules available. There is also a small repo in the downloads section in Magisk Manager. Also Adaway works great with Magisk. Just make sure to turn on systemless host file in Magisk manager.
14. Congrats you are now rooted!:highfive:
Q: Alright now that I'm rooted, how do I get official updates?
A: 1. Download the latest OxygenOS from here. Download the full zip and NOT the OTA update. Place it on your phone. Make sure you also have your Magisk zip.
2. Boot into TWRP. Press the volume button when the bootloader unlocked screen comes up. Use volume buttons and power button to select recovery.
3. Flash the OxygenOS zip file. DO NOT reboot yet!
4. Tap the home button and flash Magisk. Clear cache.
5. Reboot into system and you are done!
Hope this guide is simple enough for you guys to understand. It might seem daunting at first, but practice makes perfect.
Also it is not a requirement to root, most people get by fine without ever rooting. But we are not like normal people, are we? Why else would we be on XDA then?
Further questions
Q1: Why Magisk and not SuperSU?
A: Besides the fact that Magisk is being constantly updated to bypass SafetyNet, it is also open-source. Wish I could say the same for SuperSU, the app is not what it used to be. Chainfire is no longer aware of the changes made in his app and I for one am not willing to take my chances with a shady developer. I had countless bad experiences with Chinese apps, many of them created by large companies. Check out this thread for more info.
Q2: Why exactly is HydrogenOS not recommended for use outside China?
A: Besides the aforementioned lack of Google apps, HydrogenOS is also tweaked differently from OxygenOS. It is significantly more aggressive in killing apps and not letting them run in the background, as you would expect with the number of rogue apps in China, made worse by the fact that there is no Play Store in China. OxygenOS on the other hand has a limit of 32 apps in memory, which I guess is a nice compromise between performance and battery life.
Reserved just in case. Probably will never need it though.
to be fair, there are still lots of people using SuperSU..
What should I do if I still want to use SuperSU?
2 noob questions @jasonwsc or anyone who knows
How about wiping dalvik and cache?
And how about encryption? Do I need to remove my fingerprint/security pattern before flashing OR rooting?
Thanks a lot for your help, the OP5 will be the first phone I can actually root. My old Xperia Z (2013) had a locked bootloader that was not unlockable haha.
ipredatorv said:
2 noob questions @jasonwsc or anyone who knows
How about wiping dalvik and cache?
And how about encryption? Do I need to remove my fingerprint/security pattern before flashing OR rooting?
Thanks a lot for your help, the OP5 will be the first phone I can actually root. My old Xperia Z (2013) had a locked bootloader that was not unlockable haha.
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Wiping Dalvik and cache is usually done after flashing a ROM in TWRP. Not that big of deal now that many apps use ART, but still good to do to prevent app crashes.
No need to remove fingerprint security before rooting.
iamelton said:
to be fair, there are still lots of people using SuperSU..
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Ningyou Higeki said:
What should I do if I still want to use SuperSU?
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Just flash SuperSU zip instead of Magisk.
I don't know why anyone still uses SuperSU though. For one, it's sold to a Chinese company and is no longer open source. Not to mention it doesn't pass SafetyNet at all.
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Wiping Dalvik and cache is usually done after flashing a ROM in TWRP. Not that big of deal now that many apps use ART, but still good to do to prevent app crashes.
No need to remove fingerprint security before rooting.
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Thanks for the clarification!
I only asked about wiping dalvik/cache because some other people here recommended that, as it may help to fix my battery drain issue.
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ipredatorv said:
Thanks for the clarification!
I only asked about wiping dalvik/cache because some other people here recommended that, as it may help to fix my battery drain issue.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
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It might help with your battery drain issue, but chances are some apps are running in the background draining your battery.
Google services not working
I have installed oxygen OS in my chinese version OP5 following above method. However, after installing oxygen OS my google play store isnt working. When I open google play store, it stucks on checking info.
Nishatian1 said:
I have installed oxygen OS in my chinese version OP5 following above method. However, after installing oxygen OS my google play store isnt working. When I open google play store, it stucks on checking info.
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Just a wild guess, but are you still in China? Check your VPN before trying to access the Google Playstore. Otherwise, remove the Playstore and download the most recent Playstore apk from a website like apkmirror. If they offer multiple versions, go for ARM 64.
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jasonwsc said:
Just flash SuperSU zip instead of Magisk.
I don't know why anyone still uses SuperSU though. For one, it's sold to a Chinese company and is no longer open source. Not to mention it doesn't pass SafetyNet at all.
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I'm a little tired of tuning my phone now. And I don't care about SafetyNet. BTW, how's Magisk's compatibility now?
jasonwsc said:
Just flash SuperSU zip instead of Magisk.
I don't know why anyone still uses SuperSU though. For one, it's sold to a Chinese company and is no longer open source. Not to mention it doesn't pass SafetyNet at all.
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I got my Chinese OP5 two days ago and went through the whole procedure of unlocking, rooting, and flashing OxygenOS. Now I see that somebody took the time to write a nice guide on how to do it. Thanks @jasonwsc! I really wish I had this available to me already. I am sure it's gonna be a great help to others though!
I wasn't aware that SuperSU had been sold to a Chinese company through and that it is no longer open source. Knowing what I know now I regret flashing SuperSU yesterday and would love to switch to Magisk.
My question would be: what's the "proper way" to switch from SuperSU to Magisk? Just unroot via SuperSU and flash Magisk, or is there a better, cleaner way?
Edit:
Nevermind, just searched it and there's a super nice guide here.
Ningyou Higeki said:
I'm a little tired of tuning my phone now. And I don't care about SafetyNet. BTW, how's Magisk's compatibility now?
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Magisk works fine, have no issues so far.
Hello,
I have the opportunity to receive an OP5T (128 GB)
from China. The ROM will be Hydrogen OS and not Oxygen OS.
I would like to be sure that the procedure used to install Oxygen OS will be the same as for the OP5?
Moazamali said:
Hello,
I have the opportunity to receive an OP5T (128 GB)
from China. The ROM will be Hydrogen OS and not Oxygen OS.
I would like to be sure that the procedure used to install Oxygen OS will be the same as for the OP5?
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Yes it's the same. Just flash the firmware file for OP5T instead of the OP5.
i have international model oneplus 5. My phone was bricked, so i unbricked the phone by flashing h2os. I have rooted my phone with supersu and unrooted it again by flashing stock recovery. i want to now flash my phone with oxygenos. i have tried but no success. Please guide me with correct method.
Thanks
nayemohd said:
i have international model oneplus 5. My phone was bricked, so i unbricked the phone by flashing h2os. I have rooted my phone with supersu and unrooted it again by flashing stock recovery. i want to now flash my phone with oxygenos. i have tried but no success. Please guide me with correct method.
Thanks
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See here https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/official-oxygenos-4-5-2-7-1-1-ota-t3627003 it might be useful to format internal storage.
strongst said:
See here https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/official-oxygenos-4-5-2-7-1-1-ota-t3627003 it might be useful to format internal storage.
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Good morning all,
I have the same problem. Installed a H2os on a international oneplus 5.
Didn't like it so much so I formatted the system and installed the open beta 26.
However if I want to use the latest recovery either to clear cache or davlik cache I get a bunch of errors.
Any idea why?
kimon60 said:
Good morning all,
I have the same problem. Installed a H2os on a international oneplus 5.
Didn't like it so much so I formatted the system and installed the open beta 26.
However if I want to use the latest recovery either to clear cache or davlik cache I get a bunch of errors.
Any idea why?
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Which h2os version and which recovery version did you use(file names please)? What do you mean with formatting the system? What did you wipe or format exactly?
Hi,
about 2 years ago I rooted my S2 Galaxy Tab (T719) and now I would like to upgrade from Android 6.0.1 to Android version to 7 or 8. I have googled for instructions on how to upgrade a rooted S2 Tab but did not find anything useful (most info is on OTA upgrades which no longer works on rooted devices). Could someone please post step-by-step instructions (please bear in mind that I only ever deal with this kind of thing once every 2-3 years so I do not have much experience). I have TWRP v 3.0.2 installed (do I need to update this as well?) and the tablet is not encrypted (so hopefully I won't have to wipe the system partition and re-install all the app?!?). Thanks.
I also noticed that there is now a huge variety of ROMs out there. How can one know which ones are trustworthy? The main reason I rooted the tablet was to be able to increase privacy (control app permissions with XPrivacy). So I do not want to install some custom ROM that maybe contains spyware or other compromising features. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. Given my motivation (privacy) for rooting, would it maybe be better to go back to Stock ROMs (i.e. non rooted) and simply control web access via netguard (by preventing net access for some apps, they may still spy on my contacts, location, or email but cannot phone home to transmit the information)? At least I would still get OTA updates because being excluded from the OTA channel also poses a security risk in itself I suppose. Ok so any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance!
There is no official Android 8 for our device. If you want 8 or 9 you have to install a custom ROM like LuK1337's LineageOS port. It is as safe as LineageOS is by itself on any device. Only problem you might have then is that calling is not possible anymore for now, but LTE works. If you want to use LOS, you HAVE to format data because it's not compatible at all. If you wanna stay on official Android you might keep it. Installing is done by flashing the official firmware with the correct country code over Odin. This will remove TWRP at first so you have to reflash it by Odin afterwards. For firmware download I always use: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647 and Odin is found by google. If you wanna got the way to LOS you have to do all the steps I mentioned before too anyways to have a recent Modem firmware and bootloader. In that case you just have to flash LOS and OpenGAPPS by TWRP and delete /data aka Factory reset.
Regardless what you do, after ODIN is done, you HAVE TO boot into TWRP immediately to keep it from being removed by official firmware. While you are in there anyways you can install magisk to keep it from encrypting /data
Many thanks emuandco. So I guess I will stick with the Android 7 as I do not want to reformat the tablet and reinstall all the apps. I have started to download the Android 7 stock ROM, but it is taking quite long so in the meantime just to confirm, the steps to follow are:
1- use odin to flash the stock ROM (no steps required prior to this? I simply overwrite the existing ROM? I suppose that I will loose root then and need to re-root the device using the standard procedure as explained here: http://www.samsungsfour.com/tutoria...nougat-7-0-using-cf-auto-root-all-models.html ?)
2- use odin to flash TWRP (I will need the newest version I guess and cannot use the same as for Android 6?)
3- boot into recovery mode to ensure that TWRP does not get overwritten
4- done
Is this correct? Do I then need to reinstall Xposed, SuperSU and Xprivacy or will they be preserved?
Thanks again!
P.S.: BTW, I also found these instructions: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/twrp-3-0-2-1-galaxy-tab-s22016-sm-t713-t3390627 which are slightly different from http://www.samsungsfour.com/tutoria...nougat-7-0-using-cf-auto-root-all-models.html and require a wipe of the data partition. Does this mean that for an update to Android 7 I definitely do need to wipe the data partition? If this is the case then this would be a major disadvantage of rooting in the first place and maybe I simply flash the stock ROM and do not root at all but go the "netguard" route as mentioned in my original message?
I never used the official Firmware that much. Fist thing I did was going on LuK1337's nerves to get a port of LOS for it up and running So no clue if Samsung manages to keep /data but I guess so. Yeah, looks fine what you list there. You COMPLETELY overwrite ANY modification in kernel or /system, so reflash your mods and root (Magisk). I always recommend to uase the MOST recent TWRP. (https://dl.twrp.me/gts28velte/ should be it in your case).
Ah and looking at your manuals... Check OEM unlock just to be rather safe than sorry if things go mad.
emuandco said:
I never used the official Firmware that much. Fist thing I did was going on LuK1337's nerves to get a port of LOS for it up and running So no clue if Samsung manages to keep /data but I guess so. Yeah, looks fine what you list there. You COMPLETELY overwrite ANY modification in kernel or /system, so reflash your mods and root (Magisk). I always recommend to uase the MOST recent TWRP. (https://dl.twrp.me/gts28velte/ should be it in your case).
Ah and looking at your manuals... Check OEM unlock just to be rather safe than sorry if things go mad.
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Hello all,
On my new Pixel 3 XL, I installed Magisk immediately after doing the initial setup. I then tried taking the January 2019 OTA update (the phone was running the original build from September 2018) and installing the update using the instructions here for devices with A/B partitions: https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html#ota-installation
This however did not work and the update still failed to install. I ended up doing the upgrade manually via the bootloader but I would like to ask about how to handle this process for future updates. I am running the latest stable version of Magisk.
Thank you
Is it possible that /system or /vendor have been altered in some way? That would cause the OTA to fail...
Didgeridoohan said:
Is it possible that /system or /vendor have been altered in some way? That would cause the OTA to fail...
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I still pass SafetyNet though. Wouldn't modifying either of those cause it to fail?
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I still pass SafetyNet though. Wouldn't modifying either of those cause it to fail?
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As a rule, you can do quite heavy modifications to both /system and/vendor and still pass SN. So, not necessarily...
Didgeridoohan said:
As a rule, you can do quite heavy modifications to both /system and/vendor and still pass SN. So, not necessarily...
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Well I do use the Internal Audio Plugin which may write stuff to /system and/or /vendor. I am not sure though. I do not remember if I had it installed at that point though. I do have it installed now though. If it turns out that the app is the reason it's not working, hopefully I will be able to uninstall it when trying the OTA again.
Hi all. I have searched for information and have seen a lot and varied. I come to confirm more than anything and to know if you have a clear idea.
I have my 3XL pixel rooted with Magisk.
First question: With the root of magisk the system does NOT detect the new monthly update updates. Is this normal? I understood that I would detect it but that it would NOT let me update it.
As a result of that question I found this other ...
https : // topjohnwu. github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html (sorry, there are spaces)
I'm not sure if this tutorial is valid for the Pixel 3XL. I have reproduced it and ... or something I have not done well or is not compatible with our device.
The objective of all this is to know if, with the rooted phone, OTAs can be detected and, in case the answer is no, to know if there is any method like the one that Magisk proposes without having to download the OTA, install by the recovery and re-root with twrp.
I have not used any magisk module, but I do have Es File Explorer installed with root viewer, titanium backup and Swift Insaller. I do not think this has modified / system or / vendor.
Thanks and best regards!
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Hi all. I have searched for information and have seen a lot and varied. I come to confirm more than anything and to know if you have a clear idea.
I have my 3XL pixel rooted with Magisk.
First question: With the root of magisk the system does NOT detect the new monthly update updates. Is this normal? I understood that I would detect it but that it would NOT let me update it.
As a result of that question I found this other ...
https : // topjohnwu. github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html (sorry, there are spaces)
I'm not sure if this tutorial is valid for the Pixel 3XL. I have reproduced it and ... or something I have not done well or is not compatible with our device.
The objective of all this is to know if, with the rooted phone, OTAs can be detected and, in case the answer is no, to know if there is any method like the one that Magisk proposes without having to download the OTA, install by the recovery and re-root with twrp.
I have not used any magisk module, but I do have Es File Explorer installed with root viewer, titanium backup and Swift Insaller. I do not think this has modified / system or / vendor.
Thanks and best regards!
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Hello,
The issue that you are describing is identical to what I observed during the February OTA update. It was not showing up on my phone. Supposedly if you wait long enough it will be detected, but I got impatient with waiting and just did it manually. It is worth noting however that when I got my Pixel 3 XL (I got it in January), I rooted it immediately before installing the January patches, and the behavior that you described as what should have happened is what I observed: the update was detected, but I could not install it. The odd thing about it was that even after uninstalling Magisk, I still could not get it to install and therefore ended up manually sideloading that update as well. It is worth noting that as part of that sideload, I chose to wipe the phone so that whatever modifications I must have made to /system or /vendor would be gone.
I am sorry that I could not provide any real help for this issue since I have been sideloading as a workaround. If you come up with a real solution to this, please let me know. Otherwise, you may want to just sideload manually.
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Hello,
The issue that you are describing is identical to what I observed during the February OTA update. It was not showing up on my phone. Supposedly if you wait long enough it will be detected, but I got impatient with waiting and just did it manually. It is worth noting however that when I got my Pixel 3 XL (I got it in January), I rooted it immediately before installing the January patches, and the behavior that you described as what should have happened is what I observed: the update was detected, but I could not install it. The odd thing about it was that even after uninstalling Magisk, I still could not get it to install and therefore ended up manually sideloading that update as well. It is worth noting that as part of that sideload, I chose to wipe the phone so that whatever modifications I must have made to /system or /vendor would be gone.
I am sorry that I could not provide any real help for this issue since I have been sideloading as a workaround. If you come up with a real solution to this, please let me know. Otherwise, you may want to just sideload manually.
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I see that there is no other option than to do it manually and reinstall magisk later every month ...
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I see that there is no other option than to do it manually and reinstall magisk later every month ...
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Well at this point I will not have a chance to test this belief out until March.
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Well at this point I will not have a chance to test this belief out until March.
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I rerooted the phone with Magisk and it's perfect.
Unfortunately, with the March update, my 3LX pixel will not notify me of this update and I will have to install it manually with adb.
Then I will have to manually re-root magisk. I can not find a way to make the magisk tutorial work so I do not have to do this manual process. I believe that Magisk modifies /vendor and /system and "to uninstall magisk with the boot_patched", to the new pixel 3 or to Android Pie does not matter to him because he knows what is happening.
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I rerooted the phone with Magisk and it's perfect.
Unfortunately, with the March update, my 3LX pixel will not notify me of this update and I will have to install it manually with adb.
Then I will have to manually re-root magisk. I can not find a way to make the magisk tutorial work so I do not have to do this manual process. I believe that Magisk modifies /vendor and /system and "to uninstall magisk with the boot_patched", to the new pixel 3 or to Android Pie does not matter to him because he knows what is happening.
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I am confused. How can you know what is going to happen with the March update when it has not been released yet?
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I am confused. How can you know what is going to happen with the March update when it has not been released yet?
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Nooooo Sorry, maybe I explained wrong.
I want to say that, like in January and February, when the March update is released, the Pixel 3XL, as it is rooted, will not recognize it. It will not give me the notice of a new update.
Better like that?
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Nooooo Sorry, maybe I explained wrong.
I want to say that, like in January and February, when the March update is released, the Pixel 3XL, as it is rooted, will not recognize it. It will not give me the notice of a new update.
Better like that?
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Oh I understand. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. ?
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Oh I understand. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
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I installed the March update via recovery. No problem. Then I have reinstalled Magisk with the TWRP image.
I still do not know how to make this tutorial for Pixel 3 work
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html#ota-installation
Has anyone succeeded? The objective is:
- That the rooted phone detects the OTA.
- To be able to uninstall the root with the Magisk Manager application.
- To be able to install the OTA like any normal user.
- Be able to reinstall the root via Magisk Manager.
All without the need of adb, sideload, recovery, TWRP or anything "technical".
Greetings!
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I installed the March update via recovery. No problem. Then I have reinstalled Magisk with the TWRP image.
I still do not know how to make this tutorial for Pixel 3 work
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html#ota-installation
Has anyone succeeded? The objective is:
- That the rooted phone detects the OTA.
- To be able to uninstall the root with the Magisk Manager application.
- To be able to install the OTA like any normal user.
- Be able to reinstall the root via Magisk Manager.
All without the need of adb, sideload, recovery, TWRP or anything "technical".
Greetings!
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I also had to install the update via recovery, as the option to use the built-in updater was not detecting that the update was available again. Perhaps it's time we ask @topjohnwu Magisk Queries/ @topjohnwu about this?
I've seen (and commented in) at least 4 previous threads reporting the same issue with OTA updates and none of them have been taken seriously or prompted any kind of further investigation. Oh well, 5th time lucky perhaps?
Anyway, I have exactly the same issue with my Pixel 2; I used to receive notifications for OTA updates back when I was running on Oreo with Magisk, but after updating to Pie in September 2018 I haven't received a single new OTA notification.
Pie was installed from the factory image, including a device wipe, so it was a completely fresh start. I've also tried reflashing system.img and vendor.img just in case those partitions somehow got modified at some point, but it made no difference. My device simply will not detect new OTA updates, so my only option is to sideload the update and reflash magisk every month.
As per a previous post of mine, I found other reports of the same issue on Reddit and the common factors seemed to be Pixel devices, Pie and Magisk.
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I've seen (and commented in) at least 4 previous threads reporting the same issue with OTA updates and none of them have been taken seriously or prompted any kind of further investigation. Oh well, 5th time lucky perhaps?
Anyway, I have exactly the same issue with my Pixel 2; I used to receive notifications for OTA updates back when I was running on Oreo with Magisk, but after updating to Pie in September 2018 I haven't received a single new OTA notification.
Pie was installed from the factory image, including a device wipe, so it was a completely fresh start. I've also tried reflashing system.img and vendor.img just in case those partitions somehow got modified at some point, but it made no difference. My device simply will not detect new OTA updates, so my only option is to sideload the update and reflash magisk every month.
As per a previous post of mine, I found other reports of the same issue on Reddit and the common factors seemed to be Pixel devices, Pie and Magisk.
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What's odd about my situation is that when I first got the phone and rooted the image that it came with (September 2018), I did get the OTA notification. I just could not get it to install even after following the Magisk uninstallation steps provided in the official Magisk tutorial. It's only a minor inconvenience and I can live with it, but the fact that it happens still bothers me.
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What's odd about my situation is that when I first got the phone and rooted the image that it came with (September 2018), I did get the OTA notification. I just could not get it to install even after following the Magisk uninstallation steps provided in the official Magisk tutorial. It's only a minor inconvenience and I can live with it, but the fact that it happens still bothers me.
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This happened to me too. I put the root and the first OTA did arrive but, because I had root, I could not install. I had to do it manually with adb.
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This happened to me too. I put the root and the first OTA did arrive but, because I had root, I could not install. I had to do it manually with adb.
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Did you try using the tutorial as well?
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Did you try using the tutorial as well?
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Yes, but with my rooted device the notification of NEW UPDATE does not appear. I know I can not INSTALL it, but is there also no update notice? This is what I need. An update notice.
With that warning I will be able to patch the boot image with magisk and then I will be able to download and install the OTA. Then re-rooted and ready.