Help? New to Kindle, thanks :) - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys,
I recently picked up a (as far as I can tell) Kindle Fire HD 7 2014 (4th gen?). I know my way around various devices (HTC One M7, Nexus 5, Galaxy S6) and I'm decent with fastboot/adb and understanding how to install custom ROM/Kernel/Recovery on devices. However, after spending some time reading through this forum...I'm stumped. The only clear cut guides seem to be for the 2012 version, and some guides are ambiguous and don't state which version. Could anyone give me a few tips? I'm looking to install custom Recovery/ROM, maybe kernel. Thanks for reading this

I too have this issue. I can't tell what hardware I have, except that I just bought it for Amazon "prime day". Any info would be greatly appreciated.

MrBunnyWab said:
I too have this issue. I can't tell what hardware I have, except that I just bought it for Amazon "prime day". Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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My Kindle 7HD from "Prime Day" arrived today.
I've been fooling around with Android alternative ROMs for a few years - mostly Cyanogen but I've tried others too. At this point, I like the Kindle hardware, but the software has to go. This is not my first Kindle - I had one of the original Fires - but they've done a lot to try to lock it down.
Here's what I've learned so far...
Tha Amazon Developers Forum indicates that ADB will work with the Fire HD (4th generation):
https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...etting-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing
I have gotten the Developer Options to work. In the Device Options screen, tap the Serial Number field 7 times, just like tapping the Version number field in Cyanogen. Now I can enable ADB (Under Debugging but when I connect to my Mac, adb doesn't recognize the Fire. I have the Android File Transfer app on my Mac, and that connects just fine... and adb works properly with my other Android devices.
Any advice or links would be welcome. I've searched around XDA but it seems that all the stuff for older Fires no longer works.
Walt

Walts, is your fire recognized, but just unauthorized, or not recognized at all?

adb devices comes back empty.
Android File Transfer responds with a file listing of the Fire.
Fastboot devices comes back empty and locks up my Mac.
According to the Amazon developers forum, I should be clicking YES to Allow USB debugging but I haven't found that on any menu. All I've found is Enable ADB which I have set "on".
Walt

This might be a good starting point.
I've found this thread on a slightly different forum about installing TWRP on a Fire HD 2014
How to install TWRP boot recovery-2014

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[Q]Amazon destroyed my setup now KFHD7 bricked

I've looked through dozens of threads so please forgive me if I'm duplicating.
I had previously rooted my KFHD7. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps (like Silk) and I used LBE Security Master to forbid the stock Amazon apps (including system apps) from accessing the Internet (after I noticed Silk being 'un-frozen' and Amazon Video being reinstalled).
So this morning (don't know what possessed me) I allowed all the Amazon apps access the Internet just to see if there were any updates etc. - next thing I knew my Kindle was going all weird so I rebooted - only to find all the frozen apps defrosted and other stock apps reinstalled - and root removed - the SU binary was gone as was the actual SU app - as were Google Play and some other apps - I kid you not - I don't wear a tin foil hat - Amazon went in and effectively destroyed my Kindle by defrosting/reinstalling/upgrading their apps and un-rooting my device.
Anyhow, I decided to re-root.
I chose - 2 Install Permanent Root with Superuser from the Kindle Fire Utility
Last thing I saw on the screen it was installing FFF (FireFireFire), the screen went off and now nothing. I have the factory cable (I bought it here as a just in case), I have the standard cable - but nothing. Not a flicker. No adb commands come back with anything, no fastboot commands - nothing.
Is there any hope? :crying:
Err... last time I checked, we are supposed to be using Kindle Fire First Aide (KFFA) for the KFHD 7". FFF is for the original Kindle Fire?
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Perhaps when you enabled all internet access, the 7.3.0 update was pushed to your device? If you didn't have it already that is.
Protomartyr said:
Err... last time I checked, we are supposed to be using Kindle Fire First Aide (KFFA) for the KFHD 7". FFF is for the original Kindle Fire?
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Perhaps when you enabled all internet access, the 7.3.0 update was pushed to your device? If you didn't have it already that is.
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I didn't know about KFFA until after I had used KFU (which I already had on my hard drive along with dozens of other utilities).
(I don't visit XDA much (sorry) because I block a lot of adverts, scripts and tracking etc. via Firefox and so the forums don't look very good on my PC and I can't see the Captchas unless I use IE)
I also didn't know about 7.3.0 until I started searching XDA so I'm guessing that's what happened (I had Internet denied to the apps only a couple of months).
So there's no hope then?
ciphernoelie said:
I didn't know about KFFA until after I had used KFU (which I already had on my hard drive along with dozens of other utilities).
(I don't visit XDA much (sorry) because I block a lot of adverts, scripts and tracking etc. via Firefox and so the forums don't look very good on my PC and I can't see the Captchas unless I use IE)
I also didn't know about 7.3.0 until I started searching XDA so I'm guessing that's what happened (I had Internet denied to the apps only a couple of months).
So there's no hope then?
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There is hope. Find the kindle fire first aide thread under general, follow the directions carefully and post there if you have questions or problems.
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Krsmqn said:
There is hope. Find the kindle fire first aide thread under general, follow the directions carefully and post there if you have questions or problems.
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I did already (honestly I wouldn't waste your time without trying as much as I possibly could myself) but my KFHD7 is completely unresponsive.
I've tried the whole 20/30 second hold button thing, I've tried the regular cable, the factory cable, different USB ports (it doesn't register on my laptop in any way). I've rebooted (using the 20 second thing), hooked up the factory cable, then rebooted again (I don't even know if it actually is rebooting because there's nothing on the screen) and then hooked up the regular cable - nothing.
I'd send it back to Amazon but all my private emails and contacts are on it (I used Kaiten to download thousands of old emails). All my logins to various websites are on it, all my passwords were synchronized between Firefox for Android and my (Windows) desktop Firefox. I've nothing criminal to hide (criminal no, embarrassing yes - dating/hookup websites etc.) but I wouldn't want to have to change dozens of passwords.
Can I open it up and short something? Is there a way to manually factory reset by doing something physical internally? I love my Kindle - I even bring it to the shower to play music over speakers (with TuneIn). I'm a big Twitter user and had several Twitter apps and several news app - everything was set up just right :crying:
What annoys me (angers me) is that there was no warning from Amazon. They have my email address (and my phone number) and obviously they have access to my Kindle but they never warned me in advance - they treated MY Kindle like it was a piece of corporate equipment still belonging to them.
I swear - I'll never buy one again. Nexus 7 next time.
ciphernoelie said:
I've looked through dozens of threads so please forgive me if I'm duplicating.
I had previously rooted my KFHD7. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps (like Silk) and I used LBE Security Master to forbid the stock Amazon apps (including system apps) from accessing the Internet (after I noticed Silk being 'un-frozen' and Amazon Video being reinstalled).
So this morning (don't know what possessed me) I allowed all the Amazon apps access the Internet just to see if there were any updates etc. - next thing I knew my Kindle was going all weird so I rebooted - only to find all the frozen apps defrosted and other stock apps reinstalled - and root removed - the SU binary was gone as was the actual SU app - as were Google Play and some other apps - I kid you not - I don't wear a tin foil hat - Amazon went in and effectively destroyed my Kindle by defrosting/reinstalling/upgrading their apps and un-rooting my device.
Anyhow, I decided to re-root.
I chose - 2 Install Permanent Root with Superuser from the Kindle Fire Utility
Last thing I saw on the screen it was installing FFF (FireFireFire), the screen went off and now nothing. I have the factory cable (I bought it here as a just in case), I have the standard cable - but nothing. Not a flicker. No adb commands come back with anything, no fastboot commands - nothing.
Is there any hope? :crying:
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Well, What KFU does when you choose the "permanent root" option is root the device, And then, Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery, Both made for the original KF, Problem with the KFHD is that when the wrong bootloader is flashed, The bootloader partition is irreversibly damaged. So for now, This device can only be recovered using specific tools that amazon has, So you need to contact amazon, They will probably ask you to ship back your device and send you a replacement.
Also, I forgot to mention - I'm in Ireland - so I'd have to change my Amazon account to a friend's name and address in the UK etc.(get that friend in the UK to let me use their address). I'd have to send the Kindle to them (at my expense) they would have to do the swap with Amazon (if I did decide to send it back) and then they would have to send it to me (at my expense).
EDIT: You were replying (thank you) while I was typing AmrBanawan - it seems to be a lost cause then - short of sending it back - for now it's just a (costly) paperweight.
AmrBanawan said:
Well, What KFU does when you choose the "permanent root" option is root the device, And then, Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery, Both made for the original KF, Problem with the KFHD is that when the wrong bootloader is flashed, The bootloader partition is irreversibly damaged. So for now, This device can only be recovered using specific tools that amazon has, So you need to contact amazon, They will probably ask you to ship back your device and send you a replacement.
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"Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery" - therein lies the problem - I thought rooting involved an exploit, an SU binary and an SU app - end of - when I saw FFF come up on the screen I had no idea what was going on.
Lesson learned - an expensive lesson.
ciphernoelie said:
"Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery" - therein lies the problem - I thought rooting involved an exploit, an SU binary and an SU app - end of - when I saw FFF come up on the screen I had no idea what was going on.
Lesson learned - an expensive lesson.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192818
If you read the program notes, you'd see a warning against using this on any device except the original Kindle Fire. It also states that it flashes FFF TWRP & COTR. Now since you already had the program on your computer from before, I'm guessing you didn't go to the KFU thread to read up on this stuff. It happens (I've made the same mistake before).
Well my point is, I now make it a habit to read up on threads dealing with whatever program I am going to use. That way I can make sure if there is an updated version of the program, and also to make sure if the device gets an update, whether I can still use the program or not. (Like 7.3.0 having a new bootloader, and we need to downgrade to 7.2.3 to add Hashcode's bootloader).
I hope I don't come off the wrong way. I don't mean to flame or criticize. Just trying to help out for the future!
Ugg... The blue text is a pain to read.
Ciphernoelie, you may want to beg Hashcode to offer a solution (if there is even one) and also, you may have to just come to terms with the fact that you made an honest mistake and now have to hope for the best. I'm sure the folks at Amazon have better things to do with their time rather than snooping around your private stuff. Be optimistic.
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
I dont believe there is a solution to his problem short of manually taking apart his kindle and flashing the rom by hand, there are no tutorials on this and to my knowledge no services that will do it for you.
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Protomartyr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192818
If you read the program notes, you'd see a warning against using this on any device except the original Kindle Fire. It also states that it flashes FFF TWRP & COTR. Now since you already had the program on your computer from before, I'm guessing you didn't go to the KFU thread to read up on this stuff. It happens (I've made the same mistake before).
Well my point is, I now make it a habit to read up on threads dealing with whatever program I am going to use. That way I can make sure if there is an updated version of the program, and also to make sure if the device gets an update, whether I can still use the program or not. (Like 7.3.0 having a new bootloader, and we need to downgrade to 7.2.3 to add Hashcode's bootloader).
I hope I don't come off the wrong way. I don't mean to flame or criticize. Just trying to help out for the future!
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Krsmqn said:
Ugg... The blue text is a pain to read.
Ciphernoelie, you may want to beg Hashcode to offer a solution (if there is even one) and also, you may have to just come to terms with the fact that you made an honest mistake and now have to hope for the best. I'm sure the folks at Amazon have better things to do with their time rather than snooping around your private stuff. Be optimistic.
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
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mrkhigh said:
I dont believe there is a solution to his problem short of manually taking apart his kindle and flashing the rom by hand, there are no tutorials on this and to my knowledge no services that will do it for you.
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Thanks everyone for your replies - no offence taken to honest replies (Protomartyr).
I've costed sending my Kindle to a friend in the UK by courier or by registered mail plus the cost of him sending it back (plus giving him something for his troubles) and I figure for 20 euros more I could buy a Nexus second hand so that's what I'll do. I'll hang on to the Kindle and (this time) watch the threads here to see if someone comes up with a miracle solution to problems like this (I might prise it open and take a look inside ).
Thanks again :highfive:
What happens if you use factory cable ,does it connect to PC?
As in fastboot -i 0x1949 devices
xxxo said:
What happens if you use factory cable ,does it connect to PC?
As in fastboot -i 0x1949 devices
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Na, when the bootloader partition is damaged the device doesn't even power up no matter what you do!
Your one hope would be one person claimed there's had an sd card in it that was standard and removable, honestly I think they were fibbing but if you found that it would be repairable my experience of just images online and xda reports is this is not the case tho
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mrkhigh said:
Your one hope would be one person claimed there's had an sd card in it that was standard and removable, honestly I think they were fibbing but if you found that it would be repairable my experience of just images online and xda reports is this is not the case tho
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Thanks but...Nope, no detachable SD card. I did the ifixit teardown - http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Kindle+Fire+HD+Teardown/10457/1
Sadly it sounds like you have a very expensive paper weight
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[Q] Save the Demo?

A while ago, I got a KFHD 1st gen demo from ebay, and with a factory cable, lot of reading here and some help from vids on youtube, was able to flash a standard OS and continue as if it were a normal Fire.
Now, I have a second one, and although I still don't know anything, I'd like to try something a little more ... challenging? I'd like to have a multiboot bootloader that would allow me to select either the demo, the standard OS, or possibly some flavor of Android. (two, ideally three choices) Since I can't get into the Security menu, I can't enable ADB, so I my only options is fastboot, right? I've been told that my best choice would be to dream of other things, and just go with Android. Any feedback from the experts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all, both now, and from my past efforts.
Hmm I don't think it's currently possible, we don't have dual boot setups for the kindle because most people wanted to switch between amazon and android os, but from what I have heard that is impossible because they are too different, probably because they use different kernels. It could technically be possible to dual boot to demo os if we had a dual boot system, but retrieving a demo os would be a total pain. Since a demo os has no adb, there's no way to dd put the system partition, you would literally have to hook up the kindles motherboard to a sdcard reader and pull the data off the emmc, and we don't have the pin out for the contacts points on a 7" yet.
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We have working fastboot, you can flash some parts of the system. If you flash the system.img (search around the forums) you might be able to get it out of demo mode.
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[Q] Cannot find where to turn on ABP on the Kindle Fire HD.

I have the drivers installed on my computer, I got them from amazon. When I go to device manager it says kindle fire and under that connected by adb.
When I went to use sparky3's root program it tells me to turn on ADB on the device. I have a Kindle HD 7 inch 8 gig storage.
From everything I have read it says that it should be under security, it isn't. for later models it is under device. I have checked every where on my Kindle and there is no option to turn on ADB. So I have no idea how to proceed .
The device was a gift, and used both, however it has my name in the upper left corner, and is linked to my amazon prime account, parental controls are off, I can't think of anything that would restrict me from seeing that as an option.
Do I maybe have to upgrade my firmware, and can I? I'm running 6.3.3 but it says there are no new updates when I try to updater.
Any and all help would be appreciated.

Can I get GPS somehow?

sorry if this ends up being a duplicate thread, I don't see my original post
I have used Perfect Android to strip down my fire hd to android. It's working great, I can do everything on it that I could do on my phone; albeit slower lol. So my Kindle has been collecting dust for quite some time, and everyone is talking about Pokemone GO... my Asus Zenfone2 isn't supported for the game so I thought I'd try to boot up my kindle into some android version to see if it would run the game for fun.
It runs the game but the Kindle lacks GPS and all of the applications that I tried do not work in some fashion or another. I believe I tried 7 of them to no avail. I followed all the instructions such as hitting the tick mark for "allow mock locations". The closest app to working was the 1 suggested from this site Tether GPS, but when accessed it actually crashes on both devices.
So I'm just wondering if there is any good idea's on how to get a working GPS on the Kindle so that the game will work. Thanks in advance. =)

2015 7" with broken screen, need to recover Minecraft files

So my daughter broke the screen on her Fire. It only displays white.
It was running one of the 1st compatible versions of SlimRom and I think I had left usb debugging on.
Does anyone have a good idea on how to get her Minecraft files off the device?
She had been building on it for two years and it was pretty advanced.
Thanks!!!!
chuddler said:
So my daughter broke the screen on her Fire. It only displays white.
It was running one of the 1st compatible versions of SlimRom and I think I had left usb debugging on.
Does anyone have a good idea on how to get her Minecraft files off the device?
She had been building on it for two years and it was pretty advanced.
Thanks!!!!
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If USB debugging is enabled you should be able to tether the device to view the files. Gotchas include:
- if a lockscreen is enabled adb/MTP will be blocked (security measure)
- a prompt may display if the host is not recognized which you won't be able to read and respond to
You may be better off buying a well enjoyed 5th gen model from an auction site and attempting a screen replacement.
I'll dispense with the usual backup guidance ...

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