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I liked Cyan on my old Droid X but it looks like from a quick glance at the Guides and Tips page that I won't be able to even do a Clockwork Recovery let alone a new modded OS like Cyanogenmod.
Did I read that right? Assuming so, is there anything evil I can do to this phone?
You are on Verizon, so your bootloader can't be unlocked at the Moto site. You can try Sunshine for $25. That's your only hope.
And I'll ask your question be moved to the Q&A section. ?
Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
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Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
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I think you misunderstand. The $25 unlock is a third-party exploit developed by JCase and a number of other talented developers. If you are on VZW, that is the only way to unlock, but it is far from official. Plus, it rarely works on 4.4.4 for the Moto X. I think most people would be ok if VZW offered a reasonable priced paid unlock, but I doubt we ever see that.
What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060
Ah, I didn't realize it was a 3rd party thing.
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What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060
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I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
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I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
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A little history...
The Verizon XT1060 has always shipped with a locked bootloader. This prevents flashing ROMs or Parts (like custom recovery) from being flashed to the phone. Only Roms signed by Moto and intended for that model and carrier can be flashed.
A Developer Edition For Verizon Moto X was available from Moto's web site only. For that device, Moto would give out the bootloader unlock code. Once unlocked, you could flash 3rd party roms and parts. With the Dev Edition, you did not void your warranty while doing this.
Verizon stores and Moto's Moto Maker web site also sold the X for Verizon, but for these not Developer Editions, you could NOT get the BootLoader Unlock code.
Later, someone was able to gain access to a database of IMEI numbers and their BootLoader Unlock codes, even for Verizon Non-Dev Editions and started selling them via a China web site, and later Middle Man. While it went away for a little over a month, it later came back. It has recently shut down again.
JCASE and others had found a vulnerability they could exploit to unlock the bootloader, no unlock code needed. Its called Sunshine. But it only works on phones which haven't even been upgraded to 4.4.4.
So depending on what you read, it could be "dated" and written at a time where you could have purchased the bootloader unlock code from the China Website or Middleman.
I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
IMO this phone (Motorola 2nd Gen) is the best designed phone on the market. Ask anyone who has one, they love this phone to death however the only flaw (minus the camera because no one whose using their phone camera needs flawless camera specs because if that's the case then they should be using a DSLR in the first place) would be the battery life. If you're like me and know little tweaks using tasker or something similar and are not a power user you'll be fine with about 30% battery left after 8 hours. Even so, if you don't mind carrying a charger, the Motorola Turbo Charger paired with the moto X is the perfect combination. Perfect construction with a solution to the battery and your set.
In regards to the locked bootloader, see if someone will unlock it for you or surf the web for tutorials and see if you can follow along, just make sure the tutorial you use is for Verizon files and ONLY Verizon files.
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In regards to the locked bootloader, see if someone will unlock it for you or surf the web for tutorials and see if you can follow along, just make sure the tutorial you use is for Verizon files and ONLY Verizon files.
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I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
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There currently is absolutely no way to unlock the VZW version bootloader. It has been uncrackable. While I won't say it won't happen, it would be a mistake to purchase based on the assumption that it will be unlocked. Better be prepared for the worst case if you decide to purchase.
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I am on verizon and paid a chinese guy for a bootloader unlock code for the first gen Moto X. I love this phone, but i want the 2nd gen Moto X.
I see that there is still no bootloader unlock method for verizon on the new moto x. Is the phone worth the upgrade and losing the unlocked bootloader?
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As someone who did just that, trust me, it is worth it!
Can someone create a free tool to unlock bootloader of the Droid Turbo please.
If you really want a free unlock, Sunshine released the details exploit they used. You can put it together yourself. The $25 to Sunshine is to cover the cost of time and research, and any devices they've broken during research and testing.
Okay, since we're resurrecting this tired old question, that has been asked about a thousand times, again, let's keep things short and sweet with the real answer:
No.
Close this thread please
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Can someone create a free tool to unlock bootloader of the Droid Turbo please.
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Yes. It's called the XT1250. You should have bought that. Same device, same bands, same FCC ID. Runs on Verizon with a Verizon LTE SIM card, just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6. The XT1250 is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254, with bootloader unlocked FREE from Motorola website.
If you buy a Verizon phone you KNOW the bootloader is locked by orders of Verizon. And you bought it anyway, so don't really have a problem with the bootloader being locked down, do you?
So, if you buy a Verizon smartphone and devs spend time and money to bypass Verizon's stupidity, please don't complain about a small amount of compensation to support their efforts. Be thankful there is a solution!
If you have an issue with that, then don't buy Verizon phones. There's free unlock alternative on the EXACT same device, called the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250.
And yes, you can even flash Droid Turbo firmware over the XT1250 to "convert" it to Droid Turbo.
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Yes. It's called the XT1250. You should have bought that. Same device, same bands, same FCC ID. Runs on Verizon with a Verizon LTE SIM card, just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6. The XT1250 is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254, with bootloader unlocked FREE from Motorola website.
If you buy a Verizon phone you KNOW the bootloader is locked by orders of Verizon. And you bought it anyway, so don't really have a problem with the bootloader being locked down, do you?
So, if you buy a Verizon smartphone and devs spend time and money to bypass Verizon's stupidity, please don't complain about a small amount of compensation to support their efforts. Be thankful there is a solution!
If you have an issue with that, then don't buy Verizon phones. There's free unlock alternative on the EXACT same device, called the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250.
And yes, you can even flash Droid Turbo firmware over the XT1250 to "convert" it to Droid Turbo.
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Also, they're on Amazon now. You don't even have to deal with a sketchy eBay seller. They're fairly cheap too, as far as flagship phones go: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-XT12...ie=UTF8&qid=1459256900&sr=8-2&keywords=xt1250
They're not cheaper than Sunshine though...
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Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk.. I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility.. Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13
SylarScareCrow said:
Hello, i have a Motorola Droid turbo stock, with ultimate release android 5.1.. I
noto can unlock bootloader whit sunshine apk..
I try can forum officiale Motorola whit code bootloader and not found compatibility..
Please help me to unlock bootloader, i can flash cm13
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What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
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Just a PSA, after the new SU4TL-49 5.1 update SunShine will be unable to unlock the bootloader.
If you are already unlocked, you are fine (dont relock it!).
If you take the 5.1-SU4TL-49 or 6.0 beta update prior to unlocking, then you are so out of luck.
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People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
Of all the Quarks, only the Verizon one (Droid Turbo XT1254) cannot be unlocked from the Motorola website. Because Verizon demands Motorola keep the bootloader locked down.
All the other Quarks (U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, International Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx XT1225) can easily be unlocked with a code from Motorola.
So, when an exploit is found (Sunshine) to forcibly unlock the bootloader, of course any Verizon update AFTER that will be to prevent that exploit from working. Duh. Because Verizon is evil.
Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
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What is "ultimate release 5.1"?
Which factory image version? If you took the 5.1-SU4TL-49 update you are out of luck.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66869729
People stop taking the OTA update! It's only to prevent you from unlocking your bootloader! Verizon is evil, don't you understand?
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Yes have a su4tl-49 ((
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.
Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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Very sorry. Nothing you can do. Thank Verizon.
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Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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@jcase, whom I quoted above is the Sunshine guru. He says no. (Edit: See below. He says maybe. But the last one took a year to find.)
The Sunshine exploit worked on SU4TL-44 Stock. If you go past that, you are out of luck. The recent OTA update closes that loophole and you cannot revert firmware.
It took a year to even find the first exploit and it was unique to Snapdragon 805. The Verizon Droid Turbo is a late 2014 phone. Even if there was another exploit, it takes time and money to find them, bricking phones in the process. This is why the first exploit was packaged into $25 fee, to compensate the devs and fund their research.
This phone isn't even being made anymore, so investing any more time and money to find another exploit for people who take OTA updates without investigating is probably not going to happen, for a phone that will soon be 2 years old. There are many other newer phones that can get the attention.
People on Verizon who REALLY want a "Droid Turbo" with a bootloader that can easily be unlocked will buy the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Same device as the Droid Turbo, same bands, same hardware, same FCC ID. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
IF you don't have Verizon and don't need CDMA bands (or LTE band 13), then the XT1225 is even better. More HSPA bands, more LTE bands. LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. And bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola website.
They are all Quarks with the same hardware. The XT1254/XT1250 even share the same radio bands, same FCC ID. The XT1225 has different radio bands.
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Is impossibile a sunshine.apk update for this problemi in future?
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Answer is maybe. We wont be investing in another round of research for the Droid Turbo itself, if we have some research on another device that crosses over with the Turbo then maybe. A small maybe.
You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"
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You're all just front runners of a arrogant and pointless waste of time... Let's investigate this and fund this for $25 so the dev can get rich on something he stole from someone else and takes the money and credit. But he'll yea, let's keep cheating people out of money and point the finger at noobs and other individuals that don't spend pointless and limitless time on browsing lines of code, just to say I know how to flash this and exploit that. Listen,......who gives a **** buddy. Another thing, don't belittle someone that doesn't have the same knowledge and asks the "annoying" questions..... We people of the society have other things we are doing, besides having a phone in one ear and a keyboard typing in commands in abd fastboot crammed up our ass.... Thanks..."Fin"
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Actually the blame all rests on Verizon for demanding Motorola lock the bootloader. Other Quarks -- even one IDENTICAL to the Droid Turbo sold under another model name -- are not locked down. Verizon is the villain.
Credit goes to any devs who create a workaround. But it's not always possible. The exploit found took a year of research, bricked phones, etc to find. Nobody "stole" anything. The exploit was published publicly. You can write an installer yourself if you have the skill, and give it away for FREE. The fact that no one else has done so means there must not be that much demand.
But if you took the recent Verizon SU4TL-49 OTA update, you are out of luck. Simple as that. Verizon is to blame -- but so are the users who blindly take an update from an evil carrier who locks down bootloaders. The dev even created an XDA thread specifically warning people NOT to take the update! Don't know what else could be done except for owners to take some responsibility and exercise common sense?
If you are on a carrier locked down bootloader phone, and you are wanting to escape from that prison, you should know not to take any carrier OTA updates until you investigate WHY the update was published -- in this case to specifically shut down that exploit.
Of course anyone who buys this phone KNOWS it's locked down and shouldn't expect a bootloader unlock in the first place. Anyone who buys it, KNOWS it's crippled. They need to buy another Quark, like the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx -- which is the exact same device as the Droid Turbo XT1254 with Verizon bands and everything. Droid Turbo owners were just very lucky a dev created an exploit that could unlock the bootloader for one version of firmware.
Wonder why you created this new user name to post this one response? Already an XDA member and don't want to burn your regular user name? Or just a lurker who took the OTA update, huh? Blame Verizon and yourself, not the messengers. You bought the phone, knowing it was locked down. It's Verizon. That's what they do.
So, there was a brief window of escape, starting last November on firmware SU4TL-44 . The Sunshine devs gave you that window of freedom and somehow you are mad at them?
The locked down Droid Turbo anyone bought is STILL the locked down Droid Turbo they bought. It still functions just like it was bought. No one has harmed their phone. The only difference is if you take the SU4TL-49 OTA update it will remain locked down -- whereas before that OTA thanks to Sunshine you could unlock it, install custom recovery, root, custom ROMs. If that's important to you, then yeah, you do some research first here on XDA or even just using Google. (I never buy a phone I can't unlock the bootloader and root.)
But if you don't do research first, then obviously unlocking the bootloader is not that important to you? And the phone functions just like when you bought it.
Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Wait , what? Can you share little more info on this?? Which phone exactly you have?
EDIT: Tried this right away, of course it didn't work . They told me that it's not part of unlockable bootloader program, but to check often because they very often add new phones to the program.
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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how to set phone in developer setting? maybe not all the phone can get the unlock code.
EjđiSixo said:
Also , on the link they gave me, I don't see Moto Maxx either https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication from Motorola.
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Doesn't show up for Moto Maxx, but it works anyway. It did show up in previous version of website. And owners recently are still getting their XT1225/XT1250 unlocked, as evidenced by questions in my guide in the other forum. So, it still works for those phones.
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
Show us bootloader status picture.
That will prove everything you just said, that you actually have a Droid Turbo and the bootloader is indeed unlocked. Extra credit if you post the communication.
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.
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Well folks I hate to say it but all I did was call Motorola, told them I have a droid turbo and in the developer settings there is a key to unlock OEM bootloader but does nothing. They asked for my email and sent me the complete link as to unlock the bootloader. BAM! I'M UNLOCKED!!!
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Probably had moto maxx or noob assistent gave code without knowing they can although I don't think they can do that, system would probably block it.
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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.
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I'm very skeptical of someone with just two posts. Trolls do abound, you know. I prefer more proof than someone just typing a few taunting words into a forum. I would be curious if he was already on Marshmallow when this alleged bootloader unlock code was given.
About a year ago, someone posted how he had "flashed a Nexus 6 ROM" over his Droid Turbo and it "worked perfectly" and encouraged everyone else to do the same. 2014 Shamu and Quark were both released by Motorola at the same time, share a lot of the same specs -- and well known Motorola had a 5.2" Shamu variant in testing as late as mid-August 2014. But Google chose the 6" WHALE to be the only gen6 Nexus phone. Quark in many ways is the sibling to Shamu (perhaps the 5.2" was even re-purposed for Quark?), very similar to how the 2013 LG Nexus 5 and LG G2 were developed at the same time on parallel path by LG. BUT, you can't flash Nexus 6 (Shamu) ROMs over Quark, so matter how much you might envy Nexus development.
The only way you can do that is to disable some safety measures, and yes if you are silly enough you can brick your phone. Basically he had bricked his phone and was mad -- and misery loves company. The thread was quickly locked and everyone was told NOT to even try it.
My point is you can't believe everything someone types unless they offer some kind of proof.
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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies
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Your very correct and I do want to say that this is an excellent site with very true and capable designers! Trust me I'm absolutely no troll, I hate them, I was just simply putting my experience out there for others to try. I meant no disrespect or meant to step on anyone's toes. My apologies
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You're not stepping on anyone's toes. If true, then somehow you gamed the system in a way no one has been able to do. Congratulations on your good fortune!
Just asking for a couple of screenshots for proof, maybe the Motorola communication? Maybe someone else can do the same?
Were you on stock Lollipop or Marshmallow?
Hello, I am new to all things related to custom roms and such, but I'm trying to get into it.
I am going to buy a phone, and I am considering the moto x4, and there's one thing I would really like, which is to unlock it and run lineageOS on it, so I can start figuring out how to make my phone work for me. However, I have a fear.
Previously, I had a sony xperia, where the bootloader was locked by the vendor, and it wasn't possible to fix that, it seemed. I ended up returning the phone for that reason. I would really rather not have this happen again, so I was wondering if this can be the case with the moto x4 as well? More specifically, if certain releases of the phone are locked while others aren't, how can I figure this out BEFORE buying it?
So, in summary: How do I tell before buying the device whether it's going to be possible to unlock the bootloader and run custom stuff on it?
Thanks in advance.
blurghh said:
Hello, I am new to all things related to custom roms and such, but I'm trying to get into it.
I am going to buy a phone, and I am considering the moto x4, and there's one thing I would really like, which is to unlock it and run lineageOS on it, so I can start figuring out how to make my phone work for me. However, I have a fear.
Previously, I had a sony xperia, where the bootloader was locked by the vendor, and it wasn't possible to fix that, it seemed. I ended up returning the phone for that reason. I would really rather not have this happen again, so I was wondering if this can be the case with the moto x4 as well? More specifically, if certain releases of the phone are locked while others aren't, how can I figure this out BEFORE buying it?
So, in summary: How do I tell before buying the device whether it's going to be possible to unlock the bootloader and run custom stuff on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Moto X4 and Moto X4 A1 are unlocked phones and Motorola will provide the bootloader unlock code (this does void your warranty). The only exception to this unlock is the Amazon subsidized version to the best of my knowledge.
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Moto X4 and Moto X4 A1 are unlocked phones and Motorola will provide the bootloader unlock code (this does void your warranty). The only exception to this unlock is the Amazon subsidized version to the best of my knowledge.
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Ah, thanks a lot. How can I recognize the Amazon version, if I'm buying it second-hand?