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[Q] Will reset delete all my files?

Hi,
Just got my new Nexus 6 64GB. Rooted and I transferred my titanium backup files from my Galaxy Note 3. Everything went fine. 3 hour later all my apps are up and running and I'm peachy.
After that I was doing some reading a I stumbled upon the tutorial on how to disable encryption. I gave it a go and upon restart it asked me for my pin number. I enter the pin and then I get the message saying that the phone has to be reset. I hit reset and after the procedure finished phone rebooted and all my files where completely wiped clean. In all my previous phones I could do a reset and keep all my downloaded and backed up files. Is there a way to do this too with the nexus or every time I screw something up I will loose everything?

Stock recovery always resets /sdcard too. Custom recovery only /data and /cache, etc.
However, ALL your data is on an encrypted file system so the only way to decrypt is by reformatting the places that contain ALL the data

rootSU said:
Stock recovery always resets /sdcard too. Custom recovery only /data and /cache, etc.
However, ALL your data is on an encrypted file system so the only way to decrypt is by reformatting the places that contain ALL the data
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Does this apply even if I disabled the encryption?
I love the phone but this is an issue for me. Please give me your opinion on which is the best way to go. I was thinking to not install a custom recovery so I can be able to do the OTA updates even thought I never owned a phone that I didn't root and install custom recovery and ROM from day one (Only have used Samsung Note Phones all these years). Is there a ROM that is based on the Original with encryption disabled and has some good tweaks and will be updated as soon as there is an update? Thanks for your help.

slekkas said:
Does this apply even if I disabled the encryption?
I love the phone but this is an issue for me. Please give me your opinion on which is the best way to go. I was thinking to not install a custom recovery so I can be able to do the OTA updates even thought I never owned a phone that I didn't root and install custom recovery and ROM from day one (Only have used Samsung Note Phones all these years). Is there a ROM that is based on the Original with encryption disabled and has some good tweaks and will be updated as soon as there is an update? Thanks for your help.
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All phones that have "internal storage" their stock recovery wipes "sdcard" when you factory reset.

slekkas said:
Does this apply even if I disabled the encryption?
I love the phone but this is an issue for me. Please give me your opinion on which is the best way to go. I was thinking to not install a custom recovery so I can be able to do the OTA updates even thought I never owned a phone that I didn't root and install custom recovery and ROM from day one (Only have used Samsung Note Phones all these years). Is there a ROM that is based on the Original with encryption disabled and has some good tweaks and will be updated as soon as there is an update? Thanks for your help.
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The ROMs have nothing to do with encryption. When you want to turn encryption off, all your data will be reset, there is no way around it.
However, once you have disabled encryption, then you can stay on a stock rooted ROM, or go to any ROM you like, your internal files will not be touched (data will be deleted though). If you were to stay on the stock rooted ROM, and then accept an OTA update, your phone will automatically encrypt on first boot afterwards. Most ROMs update within a day (if not hours) after the OTA update, so best bet is to flash than to accept OTA if you want to stay unencrypted.
When you wipe your phone in recovery yo flash a different ROM, you do a custom wipe, where you uncheck "internal storage", so your files/pictures/etc don't get deleted.
The cool thing about the N6 is the restore option. If you were to completely wipe right now and go to a different ROM, on first boot, upon logging in you will be asked if you want to restore a backup (if you have enabled backup apps, data, WiFi passwords for your google account). If you select yes, all your apps will automatically be downloaded from the play store, you won't have to do it manually. However, I have seen data for the app is not restored, but you can log into most apps and most games save your progress on the cloud now.

[Q] encrypt after root

I have a 1st gen motoX that I rooted ages ago with slapmymoto/pwnmymoto. It's stock, never messed with the bootloader. Never changed the ROM, it's running stock android 4.4.
Got a new job and requires encryption. If I try to encrypt it, will I break my phone? Alternatively, will it even work to encrypt it?
I've searched and see some details for other phones, but couldn't find this in my situation. If it's been asked/answered, my apologies.
Thanks so much for the help!:good:

You should be fine. It only really encrypts /data, anyway.

[Q] Lollipop Encryption

So I have been reading around and it seems Lollipop will not encrypt with a rooted system image for the Droid Turbo. It simply gives a blank screen and you have to restart the Phone. I have also seen that if you downgrade to 4.4.4, encrypt, upgrade to 5.1 then you will have rooted Lollipop on the Droid Turbo with encryption. If your an encryption nut like I am, or someone who needs encryption for work, this should be what your looking for. The first step is to go back to unrooted 4.4.4 Kit Kat, I used the steps in this guide.
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/verizon-droid-turbo-xt1254-back-to-stock-downgrade-and-unroot-to-get-stock-recovery-and-stock-system-back-81328/?PageSpeed=noscript.
It worked like a charm. as soon as the flash was complete I went to recovery and factory reset. No way around this part, make sure you back up. I then booted into my phone, set up my gmail account and put my phone into flight mode to kill any signals and updates. I then encrypted it. After that I followed the instructions on Computerfreek274's post and image.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274turbolollipop-t3147455
Seemed to work perfectly, it picked everything up and recognized it as encrypted. Yay for end user security! Thanks to everyone who makes this possible!

So you can upgrade system files with an encrypted device? Just how much of the phone is encrypted?

Unless I miss my guess, it looks like the whole thing, except the bootloader, gets encrypted. But you can upgrade the image of an encrypted device.

Will I Be Able to Encrypt My Device if I Root It and Flash a Rom?

Having some real performance issues and I miss flashing ROMs so I wanted to give it another shot.
Problem is my employer requires device admin powers and full device/sdcard encryption in order for me to have my work exchange account (emails/calendar) on the device.
If I root the device and put on a custom ROM, will I have problems encrypting it, or will it just work like it did on stock?
Thanks!

I'd advise AGAINST using a custom ROM as you won't be able to access the native file system through a custom recovery (once encrypted). Rooting (alone) would be OK though.

Root w/ Encryption

I did a couple of searches and came up empty but I am wondering if any ROM developers are working with encryption and root?
When I had my Galaxy S5 (Tmobile) it was first encrypted. I recall then once I rooted it I was no longer able to encrypt the device. I think there may have been some workarounds but they were pretty cumbersome to say they even worked at all.
I'm wondering if any developers are working that angle and if so should my inquiry be presented to developer of said ROM?
I also realize that encrypted devices do tend to read a bit slower than those no encrypted but I think I can live with that.
Please advise.
Best,
Hiatt

cwhiatt said:
I did a couple of searches and came up empty but I am wondering if any ROM developers are working with encryption and root?
When I had my Galaxy S5 (Tmobile) it was first encrypted. I recall then once I rooted it I was no longer able to encrypt the device. I think there may have been some workarounds but they were pretty cumbersome to say they even worked at all.
I'm wondering if any developers are working that angle and if so should my inquiry be presented to developer of said ROM?
I also realize that encrypted devices do tend to read a bit slower than those no encrypted but I think I can live with that.
Please advise.
Best,
Hiatt
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Hello Hiatt,
Thanks for using XDA Assist. What specific device do you currently have? There are so many devices here and each might deal with your question differently. I moved your other thread to off topic since it was referring to iPhones, but this one seems to have a more specific device in mind.
Thanks,
coal686

I presently have a Tmobile Galaxy S6 which is rooted and running Sick as Hell (version X).
From what I have read and heard it seems as though root and encryption together don't always play well together.
Also, it was the other post of mine that mentioned iPhones (the one about factory resets and eDiscovery).

cwhiatt said:
I presently have a Tmobile Galaxy S6 which is rooted and running Sick as Hell (version X).
From what I have read and heard it seems as though root and encryption together don't always play well together.
Also, it was the other post of mine that mentioned iPhones (the one about factory resets and eDiscovery).
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Lol, that's what I said. The other post was more about the iPhone issue so I moved it to off-topic. Since you have a Galaxy S6, I'll move this thread there so people with that device can give you a more personalized answer.

I don't think that having root is an issue with encryption. I Had my S5 encrypted only problem was a ui crash when entering the boot password. That was specific to the rom I was using and simply had to enter password 1 or 2 characters at a time between errors.
But I do think there may be a problem with custom recovery and encryption.
My S5 was verizon, thus still locked bootloader and used safestrap to get to a custom recovery which wasn't always active.
I would talk to someone with a lot more knowledge then I about this further. But pretty sure just having root is not a problem the recovery is where you can have issues

cwhiatt said:
I did a couple of searches and came up empty but I am wondering if any ROM developers are working with encryption and root?
When I had my Galaxy S5 (Tmobile) it was first encrypted. I recall then once I rooted it I was no longer able to encrypt the device. I think there may have been some workarounds but they were pretty cumbersome to say they even worked at all.
I'm wondering if any developers are working that angle and if so should my inquiry be presented to developer of said ROM?
I also realize that encrypted devices do tend to read a bit slower than those no encrypted but I think I can live with that.
Please advise.
Best,
Hiatt
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Hi there,
Root + Encryption can work together as long as no custom recovery involved, so if you get your root by exploit instead of installing custom recovery almost 99% chance you can have your phone encrypted while preserving the root privilege.
My case explained here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/success-root-encryption-t3372958

I didn't have a problem with encryption and root. The only problem that I had was that my Galaxy S6 Edge needed to be encrypted before root. I could not encrypt my phone with the "stock" rooted kernel. Once I was encrypted, I could install TWRP and root via supersu systemless root.
Once I had root, I would use flashfire to back up and install because TWRP could not read the DATA partition since it was encrypted. For some reason, it seems once the phone has been decrypted, the data partition could be backed up with flashfire, and I would be able to restore a backup as well.
This is where I ran into issues. If you are flashing a custom rom that will require you to wipe data, your device will lose encryption. Because I can be somewhat of a crack flasher at times, and that I am too lazy to deal with having to re-encrypt and reinstall all my settings, I just opted to stick with an unencrypted phone.
Hopefully at some point, TWRP will be compatible with encryption so that lives will be easy for us crack flashers..until then, I will probably stick with an unencrypted device unless I just want to stick with a stock rom, or a custom rom that I can load up and not have to wipe data every time there is an update.