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[Q] Paranoid Android or KingDroid NoteMania?

Hi People
I am new to the world of custom rom. I just rooted my phone and i am looking into proceeding with installing ICS through a custom rom.
After some research i have narrowed it dow to two choices.
Paranoid Android vs. KingDroid NoteMania
Paranoid Android is fascinating but after correspondence with a member from here he has told me that:
"in russian forums many peoples have *mmc* issues with "paranoid android" latest version, so choice is obvious for me: Kingdroid note mania is better, just because it's safer."
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Is that true?
About KingDroid now i have nothing to report or ask. It looks perfect, except for the fact that it doesn't have tablet mode which i really want to get the feel of.
Now some general questions.
I have heard that custom roms have minor but frustrating glitches in various things.
I was wondering what i should expect...?
Anything other noteworthy that i might need in order to make an informed decision?
Ps. Right now i have a problem with my Note. It breaks off deep sleep spontaneously as if awakening from a bad dream.
Will a custom Rom fix that? Will it bring me other nightmares?
What is your experience with these two roms?
Thank you in advance people.

Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Hi People
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I was wondering what i should expect...?
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I suggest you go throughout the respective post in the development section. For PA, it is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
Start at posts after June 27, then you skip problems of previous versions.
I went through almost everything and it appears there are hardly any issues. I personally do not have any, except that I have not yet figured out how to change the sort order for my movies in the Gallery app; it appears it always sorts by file date or so. Anyway, off topic and not really a bug I guess.
PA is quite unique in the sense that you can have phone mode and tablet mode apps simultaneously. I like that. On ICS, I was very disappointed about the email app. In PA, this is simply great.
To install PA, you go back to GB or any other safe kernel, hence there is no emmc issue as someone suggested to you. PA itself uses a safe kernel of CM9, so no issues here either.
About Kingdroid, no idea. I will stick with PA as it fits my needs.
I suggest that's exactly what you should do: try for yourself to see does it fit. It's like with shoes. Asking someone else whether they fit is pointless...
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Just try all the roms out here.
Only after you have tested a few roms can you tell which one suits your needs.
I've tried almost all of them here in xda: Rocket Rom, Kingdroid, Asylum, AOKP, ParanoidAndroid, Ganbarou, Cassie's, AllianceRom, LiquidSmooth, Criskelo, Chrack. Although CM9/AOSP/AOKP roms have a million possibilities of customization i found that tw based roms suit my needs better. After many flashes i'm currently on AllianceRom which i think it's the best for me, smooth, customizable, stable.

I have narrowed down to exactly these two ROMS. PA or KD. I wish someone did feature comparison

LaCroyx said:
Just try all the roms out here.
Only after you have tested a few roms can you tell which one suits your needs.
I've tried almost all of them here in xda: Rocket Rom, Kingdroid, Asylum, AOKP, ParanoidAndroid, Ganbarou, Cassie's, AllianceRom, LiquidSmooth, Criskelo, Chrack. Although CM9/AOSP/AOKP roms have a million possibilities of customization i found that tw based roms suit my needs better. After many flashes i'm currently on AllianceRom which i think it's the best for me, smooth, customizable, stable.
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Well before i used to use DarkyRom (for NOTE is alliance ). Gnex was with paranoid android.
But for me know for the first time one question crossed my mind. Do I really need to avoid TW for example and the benefits I have and love from use of S-PEN.
So I am now looking for a good Stock rooted ROM. not AOSP or AOKP anymore.
I am loosing too much with them. And I need NOTE mostly for business so my choice is obvious.

Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Hi People
I am new to the world of custom rom. I just rooted my phone and i am looking into proceeding with installing ICS through a custom rom.
After some research i have narrowed it dow to two choices.
Paranoid Android vs. KingDroid NoteMania
Paranoid Android is fascinating but after correspondence with a member from here he has told me that:
Is that true?
About KingDroid now i have nothing to report or ask. It looks perfect, except for the fact that it doesn't have tablet mode which i really want to get the feel of.
Now some general questions.
I have heard that custom roms have minor but frustrating glitches in various things.
I was wondering what i should expect...?
Anything other noteworthy that i might need in order to make an informed decision?
Ps. Right now i have a problem with my Note. It breaks off deep sleep spontaneously as if awakening from a bad dream.
Will a custom Rom fix that? Will it bring me other nightmares?
What is your experience with these two roms?
Thank you in advance people.
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Clear answers to clear questions.. It only depends on your own likes.. Try both and see..
PA its as safe as any other safe rom as it uses cm9 kernels (well known to be safe) Also Kindroid its safe because they use a safe kernels in aroma installer...
And Kindroid DOES have tablet mode just it does not support any kind of touchwiz ui they use apex launcher (aosp looks like launcher) for this mode
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[Q] GT-P1000... ICS or ... not ?

Hello everybody...
I have a Galaxy Tab P1000 working on 2.3.3 and CWM installed.
I want to go on ICS but, honnestly, I really don't know what to do
Cyanogen, AOKP, Overcome... :silly::silly:
So, what's the differences ? I'm reading, reading, reading... and it seems to be hard to understand what bring each mod instead of installing one (your tutorials are really easy to understand for a newbie like me).
I don't want a mod where something doesn't work. My tablet is working fine actually and I don't want to screw something so... what's the best ICS mod for a P1000 ?
Thanks for your advices (and sorry for my poor english )

Two major problems.
1) best rom thread isn't allowed in xda. Try them out and find out yourself.
2) there is a q&a subforum for questions (but not for best rom question)
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priyana said:
Two major problems.
1) best rom thread isn't allowed in xda. Try them out and find out yourself.
2) there is a q&a subforum for questions (but not for best rom question)
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I tend to disagree with your response priyana. He is not asking for the "best" rom, just the differences. My suggestion is to read the development thread for each and try them out for yourself.
The best way to work out the one for you is to dive in and try them out.
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Well, if your are asking for stable roms, then cm 9.1 and aokp milestone 6 are the options. dont ask for best roms.

I agree with stimpz0r that this isn't a best ROM thread, the OP is just asking the differences between the types of ROM. As long as it stays that way and doesn't become a best ROM thread then it's fine to stay. Have moved to Q&A where it belongs.
In answer to the question, as tiresome as reading and testing can be, don't give up with the reading as it's the most important part of being on XDA as so much information is available. The 1st few posts of the development threads tend to give you an overview of what's included but the main ROM types you get will be:
Custom stock - based off official ROM's with tweaks
AOSP (Android Open Source Project) - based off Google source code
CM - which is a modified AOSP experience with customisations, bug fixes etc
AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) - similar to CM as uses lots of aspects of CM but offers far more customisation options for the user

Ahem... 1st post, 1st fault
I wasn't asking for the "best rom over all the others", but more for a little help to know what kind of rom I have to look for, really sorry for the mistake.
Usually, I try to learn by myself reading on forums or on the net, but the hard part with Android (at least for me) is that a rom can work with a device but not with another who has the same Android version :silly::silly::silly:. It's not like a video game console, a PS3 is a PS3, a Wii is a Wii, no major change between the 1st and the last serie.
Thanks for your answers. I'll keep reading , but this time I'll look toward CM and Aokp first .

We all learn by reading and you'll see in my post I was siding with you
The best part of this forum is how much you learn off other members and the like-minded people you get to talk to. We were all new once so once you pick up things slowly but surely you'll also be able to share what you've learned back with so many new users always joining :good:

[Q] Google Stock Section?

I wonder why we don't got a G Rom Stock Forum so that the Original and AOSP Roms can be better split into 3 parts. So every user don't need search them Google Roms.
What do you think?

While I do agree to some extent, I don't think it is the way you think currently... It used to confuse me that I found several GE- and Sense kernels (which are not compatible with AOSP ROMs!) in the Original Android Development section.
The way I take it, the "Android Development" section is the general development section for anything based on Sense or GE. Custom ROM's and kernels and such.
Original Android Development is indeed for general AOSP development. However 'original' things like sense or GE kernels or ROMs with "unique" elements that makes them "original" and different from others in the regular development section seems to be allowed here.
That said, I do agree with you, there should be a better distinction to make it easier to find what you're looking for; I for one don't want to look through 5 Sense-based kernels before I find a decent AOSP-based one.
One regular "Android Development" section, one "AOSP development" section for everything AOSP and one "GE development" section for everything GE.
Note: While some may consider GE as AOSP, bear in mind GE seems to be Sense with all the Sense elements replaced with AOSP ones. This makes it somewhere in between Sense and pure AOSP for compability with different mods. Kernels need to be GE-based to work with GE it seems.

Timmyfoxeh said:
While I do agree to some extent, I don't think it is the way you think currently... It used to confuse me that I found several GE- and Sense kernels (which are not compatible with AOSP ROMs!) in the Original Android Development section.
The way I take it, the "Android Development" section is the general development section for anything based on Sense or GE. Custom ROM's and kernels and such.
Original Android Development is indeed for general AOSP development. However 'original' things like sense or GE kernels or ROMs with "unique" elements that makes them "original" and different from others in the regular development section seems to be allowed here.
That said, I do agree with you, there should be a better distinction to make it easier to find what you're looking for; I for one don't want to look through 5 Sense-based kernels before I find a decent AOSP-based one.
One regular "Android Development" section, one "AOSP development" section for everything AOSP and one "GE development" section for everything GE.
Note: While some may consider GE as AOSP, bear in mind GE seems to be Sense with all the Sense elements replaced with AOSP ones. This makes it somewhere in between Sense and pure AOSP for compability with different mods. Kernels need to be GE-based to work with GE it seems.
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That is exaclty what I think too. Hoep this will get reorganized soon <3

gmbhneo said:
That is exaclty what I think too. Hoep this will get reorganized soon <3
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It won't.
The division between "Development" and "Original Development" is site wide and so are the requirements for those sections. They are described in the top posts of the sections. So a kernel is by definition "Original development", no matter for what roms it might work. And a stock rom that is NOT compiled from source is by definition NEVER original development. There are some guidelines for thread titles and that should be enough to see what you get when you open the thread.

Why are there AOSP roms here

I thought this was the sub forum for stock/ stock-modded roms and 'original development' was for all other roms. What gives? Page one has at least 2 AOSP roms and an app mod for xposed. I'm only asking because it's been this way for weeks and it's not making much sense.

I was wondering the same

phantomzer0 said:
I thought this was the sub forum for stock/ stock-modded roms and 'original development' was for all other roms. What gives? Page one has at least 2 AOSP roms and an app mod for xposed. I'm only asking because it's been this way for weeks and it's not making much sense.
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Original Android development is supposed to be for roms built from source code and android development is for roms not built from original source.
It has nothing to do with AOSP or Sense really, but still there's a lot of roms that aren't in exactly the right category and some of that is because we are taking items with lots of grey components and forcing them to be black or white so to speak. But that's the idea behind the concept when it was formed.
And due to it being sense, which is closed source proprietary, kernel excluded, it means that it's a lot harder to make the argument that a sense rom should be in original development, whereas with AOSP roms they will be in both. There have been device sections though where sense roms have been in original development, usually it was one or two major roms with a lot of custom source or a bunch of custom java and tweaks added, and then in android development it was just roms with minor changes and tweaks that were borrowed.

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No disrespect but who cares as long as development is happening, some devices have no development at all, so just enjoy having variety my friend.

Why is there a question in the Dev section? Lol, you've got your answer. Now who is gonna answer my question. ?
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Because ROMs in this section are either sense based or OEM from HTC or Google meaning the bugs and other issues you get from AOSP roms shouldn't be found in roms you install from this sub forum. It can get confusing quickly if there are two different sub forums with essentially the same material. I wasn't asking out of malice, I was more trying to understand what was going on lately so I can browse appropriately. I got my answer. /thread. Thanks Charles!

Moderator update,
Thread moved to Q&A as we do not allow question threads in the development forums.
Now to answer your question, which is a good question. There are certain OSAP Roms in the AD forum for the following reasons.
Original development is just that. It is what makes the rom original. This applies to both sense and OSAP Roms. For an example of a sense rom that could be in original development is the venom rom. They have so much code in the rom that is original it makes it different from the rom it was built from.
In terms of OSAP Roms simply building it from source does not make it original. It needs extra code to make it original. Eg official CM Roms are original because of this, an unofficial build is not original so does not belong in OG so goes into AD.
So to sum up. Simply building a rom or kernel does not qualify for OD. It is the amount of original code that the developer has added to the base rom that determines which section the rom goes in.
Sorry for the long post hope it clears things up. Let me know if you need any more info.
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Stock rom or Custom Rom

Hello there,
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
Thanks!

can you read ?
this is Nexus 6 Android Development thread not Q&A ! go to Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread and ask anything you like !
and please read this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/thread-t3603186

@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
achchu93 said:
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
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There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
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ok i apologize from both of you 
 @achchu93
In my opinion :
7.1.2 : PN (Pure Nexus)
8: currently sixrom v2.1 good for me !
sourcebuilt oreo rom : more stable
GZR Validus : not use it now if your phone is encryption ! you lose all you data
this is my opinion It may not be right
sorry for my bad english

@pinkfloyd3 : I am really sorry. I am not well experienced in this thread stuffs. I was in a curious to upgrade my phone. Thats why i posted here. Sorry if it bothers you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
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Thanks alot for your reply. I tried Pure Nexus with Franco kernel. You know both of them impressed me in a great way. after flashing franco kernal my phone is working like a jet. Really happy with this custom rom and kernal.
But still i see lot of people supporting dark rom. It is customized version of Lineage OS right? What do you think about that?

LineageOS is "lipstick on a pig" (look it up). They used Cyanogenmod as a base instead of starting over, meaning they used a base full of untested code. Because of that, it doesn't touch my devices.
The LineageOS devs should have started from scratch. It would have taken longer to get up and running, but the code would be clean and tested.

Well, if you want to keep yourself updated with the latest security patches (and probably features as well) then for this ageing phone, a custom ROM is better than stock all day long.
I'm using Dirty Unicorns 11.7.2, since is most up to date and very stable. PN is a good choice as well.