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[HowTo] Remove preinstalled apps - no need to flash custom roms or gold card root!

I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!
Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)
Enough of that you get the idea Now for the fun bit!
First if you are not you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.
Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.
This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).
Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.
Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.
Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.
Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"
This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer
Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want, just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!
A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this
Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot

Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?

Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.
PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.

Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.
I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)
Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).
There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.
To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:
1. Install Titanium Backup
2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.
3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.
4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.
So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.
All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.

yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint

For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)

Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.

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Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.
If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective

adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk or just rm Facebook*
What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)

I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more
Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...

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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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thanks for this, great info. Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files

Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.
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BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.
I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work

You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.
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Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend

Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.
Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.

Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.
PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)

Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.
About Quickoffice, I know what it is It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here ). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.

Need help getting started with CM9

As the tittle says. I would like some help on getting started with CM9. I haven't done anything all to my touchpad since I got it months ago.
What are some of the bugs CM9 brings along with it? My touchpad is mainly a fun device so I don't mind things not working 100%.

I would like some help on getting started with CM9.
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OK, what exactly do you need help with?
What are some of the bugs CM9 brings along with it?
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All the bugs are listed in the ROM thread. Hardware acceleration still isn't perfect yet. Audio from the speakers and headphones is still a mess. Camera doesn't work. Wifi is still buggy with some devices.

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OK, what exactly do you need help with?
All the bugs are listed in the ROM thread. Hardware acceleration still isn't perfect yet. Audio from the speakers and headphones is still a mess. Camera doesn't work. Wifi is still buggy with some devices.
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Well that makes it sound shoddy, CM9 is perfectly usable, in fact its great, gaming, music and playing HD videos all work great for me, also I've never had any wifi problems.
I would read the CM9 install guide on rootzwiki very carefully and go for it.

Well that makes it sound shoddy, CM9 is perfectly usable, in fact its great, gaming, music and playing HD videos all work great for me, also I've never had any wifi problems.
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Yea I did make it sound kinda bad. For me, cm9 is running perfectly on my TP, minus the audio and camera. The video acceleration has only locked up on me once in a month of use, and I haven't had the wifi problem that some people have. The biggest bug for me is the audio, I would love to be able to listen to music with the screen off to save battery.

So audio works for movies? Thinking of giving it a try later on today.
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jep audio in movies is working fine
and also for me this rom is perfectably useabel, never had wifi problems and mostly everything else also works like a charm, so give it a try i doubt you regred it^^

this sounds silly coming from someone who has CM7 3.5 installed already... but what is Titanium backup?? I don't understand if it's something I have to download, or if it's built in to something? I understand that in order to install CM9 over CM7, that I should have no problems... but that I should back up first. I can do a back up with Clockwork Mod first, then I'm supposed to do a back up of my app's with Titanium ( I read this somewhere). Is this true?
Also, If I have the CM9 zip on my Touchpad already, do I still have to install it by connecting it to my Mac or PC using ACMEINstaller2? If I can update it without having to do that, and it's a better way, then I'm all for it.
I'm also not sure about the gapps files. I gather I'm supposed to update those after I'm done installing CM9 right? I noticed that at one time, someone said to grab the 20120215 one, but now I see there is a 20120301 that is released. Are the most recent releases complete updates to the previous gapps, or do they only include certain apps? In other words, to stay current, do I need to always check for new gapps releases and install them as they come out?
Thanks!
J

but what is Titanium backup??
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It's an app for rooted devices that lets you backup and restore apps, most commonly used for when you switch roms. Yes, you have to download it.
I understand that in order to install CM9 over CM7, that I should have no problems... but that I should back up first. I can do a back up with Clockwork Mod first, then I'm supposed to do a back up of my app's with Titanium ( I read this somewhere). Is this true?
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Titanium backup and Nandroid backups (backups made in CWM) are completely different. Titanium will backup your apps and their settings/save data. For example, if you have Angry Birds, Titanium will also backup the app's data, so your game saves/progess will still be there when you restore it. A nandroid backup is a complete system backup, i.e. an exact copy of your entire system (rom, apps, etc). When switching roms, you should always do BOTH. Do a nandroid just in case the rom doesnt flash properly or something, and backup apps with titanium to save your app data and to make it easier to restore all your apps at once when you get the new rom running.
Also, If I have the CM9 zip on my Touchpad already, do I still have to install it by connecting it to my Mac or PC using ACMEINstaller2? If I can update it without having to do that, and it's a better way, then I'm all for it.
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You can, however I would recommend just flashing in clockworkmod. Backup your apps with Titanium, boot into recovery, make a Nandroid backup, wipe cache/dalvik/data, then flash the rom zip file.
I'm also not sure about the gapps files. I gather I'm supposed to update those after I'm done installing CM9 right?
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Before flashing, put the gapps zip (make sure its the one for cm9 and not for cm7) in the same folder as the rom zip. After following the above instructions and flashing the rom, then you flash the gapps zip, and then reboot, and the rom should load with all the gapps in there
Are the most recent releases complete updates to the previous gapps, or do they only include certain apps?
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I believe the gapps only gives you maps, gmail, and the market. Any other apps like google search, google books, etc, can be downloaded from the market after you get the rom running.
In other words, to stay current, do I need to always check for new gapps releases and install them as they come out?
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No, once you get everything running, the google apps like gmail and maps will be updated through the Market (I guess it's called the Play Store now) like normal. The reason you have to flash the gapps file after flashing the rom, is apps like the market have to be installed as a system app, and that can only be done through flashing with clockwork. After that, everything will update as normal through the Play Store.

Thanks for the info. In doing more research I figured out that I already have an application like Titanium called Astro File Manager. I did a back up with that. I'm sure it's the same thing.
I made a directory called cminstall at mnt/sdcard/ and put the CM9 and Gapps zips in that folder. Should I do that? Or should I leave them in the mnt/sdcard directory? there are some rogue files in that directory, but mostly it contains all of my folders for both WebOS and Andriod.
Sounds like I'm all set then. Just to be clear, I flash the new Rom by browsing to it from within Clockwork Mod?
Thanks!!
Jason

Whatever guide you're following, to me the 2 most important points are always:
1: make a nandroid backup of what you have right now so you can go back to it if you mess something up.
2: Wipe before flashing a new ROM
Both of which should be available from within your recovery..
Also.. while not being mandatory.. checking the checksum of the files you're about to flash can't hurt either..
TitBackup or other app backup tool is useful to restore your apps.. once you boot into your fresh new ROM, but it's *not* a substitute to a nandroid backup in case something goes wrong...
Enjoy

I just realized that I did a "nandriod" backup yesterday and didn't realize that it was a "nandriod" backup! So, now that i know what it is... well... I just know! LOL.
Although, it just errored out and told me to look at the log file. I could have ran out of room. I just tried to read the log file, and I'm not sure what program to open it with? CM Recovery?
And that "wiping" is running the "cache/dalvik/data" thing right? And when it says "wipe", does that mean literally "ERASES EVERYTHING" except of course my WebOS stuff.
Wiping sure sounds scary to me... that's like "losing everything", then messing with having to reinstall it all. All my ebooks that I've converted, etc. Or is that not correct? Essentially, if I do this and my tablet reboots with CM9 on it, will I be looking at what I had before but with CM9 running, or will I have a blank slate i.e. no files, no games/apps, etc. And from there, do I bring my app's back in through a recovery, or do I have to redownload them again?
I'm sorry, but I'm so new to this. Once I get it down, I won't be so nervous about it.
J

Question... Should CM7 or 9 be mixed in with my WebOS files? That always drove me nuts that they were all mixed together. It's hard to keep track of what's what. Those stray files in the root of my directory are all WebOS files. THings I've saved, etc.
Is there not a way to have a folder that contains ONLY the Android OS? Or does it all have to be in mnt/sdcard like it is now for me? Probl not. It all has to go on the root.
EDIT: However, I did notice that there is an "internal" storage of 1gig, and SD Card storage with about 11gigs total. So a 16gig unit in reality is about 12.5gigs. I only have 1.5gigs of space left on my "SD Card".
I wonder why some of my Android apps are in the "internal" storage section and the rest are on the SD card? Shouldn't JUST WebOS stuff be on the internal partition? I'm asking because if I'm going to install CM9, if there is a better way for me to do this, then now would be the time to know!
Thanks!
Jason

boy, I was literally minutes away from pulling the trigger on CM9 when I decided that I had better double check what version of gapps I had. I have "gapps-ICS-20120215". I think that's the right one?
Anyway, over in the CM forum, there are people posting up a storm that they are having rampant reboot issues and are totally stumped as to what is causing it. There could be tons more NOT having the issue too though, so it's hard to say.
Sitlet:
If installing gapps is a once and done process, why do they keep releasing newer gapps files? I was under the impression that it was because only certain apps could run on CM7, and the gapp files being updated were somehow linked to that?
Maybe as apps are updated, they release new gapps for people just now Rooting, so they can have the latest versions of the google apps when they are finished with the ROM update?
Either way, I'm now seriously reconsidering the idea of updating until I get a firm "go for it" from someone. The LAST thing I need is a constant reboot problem.
One more thing... regarding CM7 2.5... in the ADW Launcher section it indicates that I can maybe update themes to something else. is this true? If so, what type of theme/launcher does CM7 3.5 use? There are several different types. I tried this once before and really screwed my OS up. I was very lucky to recover from it.

The gapps file I use on ICS CM9:
http://goo-inside.me/gapps
Latest is 2012-03-04 but yours wouldn't be bad, assuming its just an older version of the ICS gapps and not for GB/CM7
Wiping then flashing a ROM will overwrite /system /data /cache
Thus not including Pictures, books, etc that are stored on the SDcard..
I also assumed you were already on CM7? And have working CWM recovery?
Nandroid backup/restore is from your recovery indeed.
A successful nandroid backup would allow you to restore your current Android ROM to the exact condition that it was when you backed it up.
So even if your new install ends up having reboot issues in say a week, restoring the nandroid backup made today will get you back to exactly what you had today.
(I have nandroid bckups of CM9 and the original stock on my phone and could switch between the two by restoring the appropriate one.)
I have done this process several times on diff. phones but don't have a TouchPad atm, so maybe someone who has can pitch in for the WebOS files part.
EDIT: sitlet's post from March 13th pretty much sums it all up already

yes, I'm running CM7 3.5, and I have done a complete backup both system and apps. I'm literally ready to install CM9 right now, but I need to maybe update my gapps to the one you have. That's all.
Ok... so you clarified the answer to my question. things are so routine w/ you experienced guys, that subtle details get left out when generalizing to the noobs. Which is to say that when you do a complete backup, it backs up the system to LITERALLY what it is at the time of backup. CM7 3.5 with all the apps I'm running, pictures, documents, etc.
So if I then install CM9 and tweak it how I want it, run into problems, do a complete backup, then RESTORE CM7 3.5 from the file, it will return to that state.
Are you saying that no matter what ROM you install, or what backup your restore, that all of your "user files" are always untouched? So, whatever pictures I have taken or whatever while using CM9, after I do a full back up and install say CM7 or something else, those things will remain? So I don't ever have to worry about losing a precious picture or file??
It's all starting to click believe it or not. I'm just trying to get it all sorted out in my mind! THank you so much!
j

For "user files" it depends where they are. Anything in /sdcard should be safe unless there's something else going on for WebOS devices.
Also.. any file picture or not .. saved in /system or /data wouldn't be safe after flashing.. but would also be in a nandroid backup..
And restoring a nandroid of your system won't restore pictures on sdcard if you happen to delete them yourself.
EDIT: Not sure if I'm making any sense..
restoring a nandroid, Wiping, Flashing ROMs, etc won't touch stuff on /sdcard
But these files won't be included in a nandroid backup either..
When you nandroid backup.. the backup file is actually usually saved TO the sdcard..

I figured out that I already have an application like Titanium called Astro File Manager. I did a back up with that. I'm sure it's the same thing.
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It's not. Astro will only backup the apk file for the app, and only if the app isn't protected. Titanium will backup the app, it's data, market link, etc., and will do it for any app, including system apps.
And that "wiping" is running the "cache/dalvik/data" thing right? And when it says "wipe", does that mean literally "ERASES EVERYTHING" except of course my WebOS stuff.
Wiping sure sounds scary to me... that's like "losing everything", then messing with having to reinstall it all. All my ebooks that I've converted, etc. Or is that not correct?
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Wiping cache/data/dalvik will not touch anything on the "sd card". And if you are worried about losing things, that's why you do a nandroid backup and backup apps with Titanium first.
Essentially, if I do this and my tablet reboots with CM9 on it, will I be looking at what I had before but with CM9 running, or will I have a blank slate i.e. no files, no games/apps, etc. And from there, do I bring my app's back in through a recovery, or do I have to redownload them again?
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You will have a fresh install, i.e. no extra apps on it. That's the whole point of wiping the "data" in clockwork. You CAN flash a rom without wiping the data, and all of your apps will still be there, but that is NOT recommended, especially when flashing a completely new rom like cm9. Just backup apps with Titanium, make a nandroid, then wipe everything.
Question... Should CM7 or 9 be mixed in with my WebOS files? That always drove me nuts that they were all mixed together. It's hard to keep track of what's what. Those stray files in the root of my directory are all WebOS files. THings I've saved, etc.
Is there not a way to have a folder that contains ONLY the Android OS?
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This is how it is with the TP. Most android phones/tablets will have an internal memory AND an external SD card, thus being able to separate OS from other data. Since the TP only has one memory, and you are trying to run two OS's, this is the only way to do it.
EDIT: However, I did notice that there is an "internal" storage of 1gig, and SD Card storage with about 11gigs total. So a 16gig unit in reality is about 12.5gigs. I only have 1.5gigs of space left on my "SD Card".
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It's all the same memory, just partitioned differently. And the 16gb of space is actually about 14gb due to blocking in the first place, and the WebOS takes about 2 gb to begin with.
I wonder why some of my Android apps are in the "internal" storage section and the rest are on the SD card? Shouldn't JUST WebOS stuff be on the internal partition?
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Again, your TP ONLY has one 16gb block of memory, where most devices have more than one. It is partitioned to let the android OS think there is a separate internal and external memory, which is how it has to be for android to run. You can move apps to the sd card by going to settings-applications, however, with the TP, again, its the same memory, so you really aren't moving it.
Sitlet:
If installing gapps is a once and done process, why do they keep releasing newer gapps files? I was under the impression that it was because only certain apps could run on CM7, and the gapp files being updated were somehow linked to that?
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The apps like gmail, maps, etc, all get updated regularly though the Market. Thus, once one gets updated, someone will update the gapps zip with the newer version. The reason you HAVE to flash it the first time, is because some of the apps are system apps, and flashing is the ONLY way to get them to work properly. Once they are on your system and installed, you can update regularly through the market. It doesn't matter if you flash an outdated gapps zip, as long as it is one for ICS cm9, and not GB cm7. If the apps are outdated when you flash them, the market should let you update them after your tablet runs for a few minutes and realizes the apps are outdated.
The LAST thing I need is a constant reboot problem.
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As long as you stick with Alpha 2, and NOT the nightlies, you should be fine. I haven't had one reboot in over a month.
Which is to say that when you do a complete backup, it backs up the system to LITERALLY what it is at the time of backup. CM7 3.5 with all the apps I'm running, pictures, documents, etc.
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Again, as I explained earlier, there are two backups you should make. First, use Titanium to backup any apps you want to keep, and their app data. Obviously you can just re-download any app from the market after you flash cm9, but Titanium gives you a one-click way of doing it, thus saving you time. AND Titanium will backup app's data, so if you have a game that you want to save your progress, backing up with Titanium will save that progress.
User files (i.e. anything in the mnt/sdcard folder) will NOT be touched when wiping cache/data/dalvik in clockwork. They will ONLY be lost if you select the option to wipe sd card in clockwork. Again, if you are worried about anything, backup your files to a computer first, which obviously if anything is important to you, you should already have a backup of that data somewhere.
Are you saying that no matter what ROM you install, or what backup your restore, that all of your "user files" are always untouched?
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Yes, unless you specifically tell clockwork to wipe sd card. Any pictures, music, documents that you loaded onto the device via usb automatically go to the sd card partition, and will not be touched when flashing a rom. But again, ALWAYS have a backup of your data just in case something goes wrong.
So I don't ever have to worry about losing a precious picture or file??
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Again, I can't stress this enough: if you have data (pictures or whatever) that are important to you, make a backup somewhere off the device, just in case.

Man, thanks for your patience and sorry about the redundancy.
Everyone seems to talk about Titanium, but I'm hesitant to buy it because I'm getting ready to buy an iPad 3. I tried to use Astro File Manager, but could not figure out how to get it to work properly. I can use it on my phone in my sleep. So, right now I only have a program called literally File Manager v1.1.4 for moving and locating files, or I use Clockwork Recovery for nandroid backups, and Rom Manager app backups (I think.. unless it's backwards). I believe people choose Titanium over Rom Manager correct? or run both? But aren't they both essentially the same?
Anyway... I could literally drag and drop stuff off my tablet to my computer no problem. That's about as fool proof as it gets really. There isn't much on my tablet that I wouldn't care to lose. Maybe some journal notes or unfinished Blog drafts.
I need to ask those people in the CM forum who are having problems if they are updating the nightlies or not. this CM9 reboot problem seems VERY odd and very random... AND a total nightmare. Because once you start having the problems, even going back to CM7 3.5 won't fix it. You're stuck with a rebooting machine until someone figures it out. Have a look:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/42519-cm9-alpha-2-on-touchpad-device-freeze-and-reboots-randomly/

Man, thanks for your patience and sorry about the redundancy.
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No problem, we were all clueless when we started off with stuff like this.
Everyone seems to talk about Titanium, but I'm hesitant to buy it because I'm getting ready to buy an iPad 3.
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You don't have to buy it, the free version does everything except one-click backup/restores. You can still do backups and restores, but you have to do it app by app. The full app is only a few bucks, but I can understand if you are only going to use it once or twice on this tablet, just go with the free one.
I tried to use Astro File Manager, but could not figure out how to get it to work properly.
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Astro really wasn't made for making backups, and it rarely works. Titanium is an app that everyone uses, and it's really the ONLY app that works every time with every app.
and Rom Manager app backups (I think.. unless it's backwards). I believe people choose Titanium over Rom Manager correct? or run both? But aren't they both essentially the same?
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No, they are not the same. Titanium is just used to backup apps. ROM Manager is used to make nandroid backups, and flash roms without having to use recovery. However, it rarely works correctly, and will likely brick your device. Just stay away from that app. Flash roms and do nandroid backups directly through recovery, that way you wont run into any problems. ROM Manager has been known to brick many devices and cause many problems.
this CM9 reboot problem seems VERY odd and very random... AND a total nightmare.
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It is very random, and I can pretty much guarantee you it's happening because people aren't flashing and wiping correctly. If you look at the people it's happening to, it's people who are new to rooting and flashing. And if you read the main thread for Alpha 2, you rarely see someone with that problem. Again, just stick with the Aplha 2 stable release. The nightlies really are full of bugs, the cm9 team basically will make changes to a rom, and let people who flash the nightlies find the bugs. So unless you really want to be wiping and flashing every night to avoid problems, just stick with Alpha 2, it's VERY stable at the moment.

sitlet said:
Astro really wasn't made for making backups, and it rarely works. Titanium is an app that everyone uses, and it's really the ONLY app that works every time with every app.
Well, I suppose yer right. I mean, I will surely use it for my Thunderbolt phone. But Astro does a pretty good job I think. I'll buy it, what the heck.
No, they are not the same. Titanium is just used to backup apps. ROM Manager is used to make nandroid backups, and flash roms without having to use recovery. However, it rarely works correctly, and will likely brick your device. Just stay away from that app. Flash roms and do nandroid backups directly through recovery, that way you wont run into any problems. ROM Manager has been known to brick many devices and cause many problems.
I'm glad you told me that!! Jeesh!! Does this Rom Manager issue apply to phones too, or just tablets?
It is very random, and I can pretty much guarantee you it's happening because people aren't flashing and wiping correctly. If you look at the people it's happening to, it's people who are new to rooting and flashing. And if you read the main thread for Alpha 2, you rarely see someone with that problem. Again, just stick with the Aplha 2 stable release. The nightlies really are full of bugs, the cm9 team basically will make changes to a rom, and let people who flash the nightlies find the bugs. So unless you really want to be wiping and flashing every night to avoid problems, just stick with Alpha 2, it's VERY stable at the moment.
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Hmmm.... Ok. So you're saying to just go with CM9 Alpha 2 and not worry about it? One thing I haven't nailed down is whether these people with problems are flashing from the nightlies. Have you determined this? My point to them was sorta "there are lots of people who say CM9 is a vast improvement over CM7, yet you guys are having nothing but trouble?" That is curious to me.
I read the thread for the stable release, and it said that I don't need to connect to my PC to do it. I put the ROM and the GAPPS on my card and planned on flashing it through recovery, doing a data wipe, etc. I'm totally backed up and ready to go. I was just hesitant about the reboot issue.
But if all goes well, I'll have an iPad 3 64gig tomorrow morning. So, that will allow me plenty of time to sort out the TP if it goes into reboot hell!
Btw... sorry if I've offended the Android fanboys by buying an iPad... but I'm a fan of BOTH, and the iPad fills a need that Android just can't. I'm a musician. Which is why I'm a Mac user too. However, I do love Android no question.

Q&A for CM10 roms on the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4g (n00b friendly)

OK so I know how crowded some of the forums have gotten, so I made this, for every question asked here I will update the op and next three posts with all the questions and answers. Basically I am trying to get ring of having to search hundreds of pages for an answer. So please be kind here.
Always remember to do a search of a question before you ask on xda. Not saying you need to search every single page of a forum, but don't ask a question that was answered 5 pages ago.
ALSO ITS AN XDA RULE SEE THIS RULE NUMBER 1
XDA forum rules
THIS IS N00B FRIENDLY

[Q] One thing I noticed is that now my connection shows as 3G instead of 4G. Do I really have a problem with my data connection or does this ROM exposes T-Mobile's fake 4G for what it is?
[A]You are correct it shows H when you are in Tmobiles"4G" area nothing wrong with your phone. Here is the link if you would like to have a 4g icon instead. 4G Icon Fix Link updated
[Q]In the stock ROM, they have a task manager which I get used to as a habit to run that and "Clear memory" from time to, but i can't find the task manager in CM10, where can i find that?
[A] I have tried this and it does work. Good find Task Manager
[Q]When upgrading from CM9 to CM10, what do I need to wipe? I read that I need to wipe data, cache, & dalvik. Do I also need to format system?
[A]in CWM, or TWRP whichever you prefer, do a romwipe and dalvic cache and then just install cm10, gapps, and whatever else you want i.e 4g icons tiptop mms. and your set

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Last one

Wifi Calling CM10
any updates on T-Mobiles Wifi calling APK? I have tried Groove IP, Google Voice and Sidecar... but they just don't work like the T-mobile version...

Thanks so much for the ROM, it's amazing (sorry, i can't post on the ROM thread, since i just made the account to say thank you, my account is still noob status )

Request for Help: CWM Clarifications for CM10 Install Prep
(UPDATE 11/29/12 8:55PM: Updated to include a complete installation list based on the advice I received from this and other threads, which worked flawlessly. This process assumes an upgrade from a stock ROM. I don't know if there are any differences moving from another custom ROM. Note that these instructions use CWM. Some developers prefer the newer option of twrp instead of CWM, found here.)
Thanks for opening up this CM10-specific, newbie-friendly thread, tazmaniondvl! I've been lurking through the CM10 thread for the past few weeks and have finally decided to take the plunge and install it. Since I've been unable to find a tutorial that meshes cleanly with the Exhibit-based CWM 6.0.1.2 package (found here), I compiled the below list of steps.
Thanks to all the developers taking the time to build these Exhibit packages, and helping us enjoy our phones even more!
Prerequisites:
Device is already rooted
Battery is charged.
There is sufficient(?) room on the SD card and internal memory.
The thread found here has the latest CM and gApps downloads.
Installation:
Download and install the Exhibit-based CWM 6 package. Verify CWM recovery is working.
Download and place the latest Exhibit-based CM10 and Exhibit-based gApps packages onto the External/Internal SD card.
Backup all user applications and data (contacts, call logs, messages) to the external SD using Titanium/Go Backup.
Make a list of all user applications you critically need at restart (backup/restore programs, preferred browser, basic utilities), to ease the reinstallation process.
Reboot to Recovery.
Select Backup from CWM menu to create a ROM backup.
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the ROM.
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache.
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache/dalvik.
Install the CM10 ROM.
Install the gApps package.
Select "Fix Permissions" under the CWM Advanced menu.
Reboot, and enjoy the bliss that is CM10.
Download the apps used to backup up user data, and perform the restore.
Reinstall all applications from the Play store directly, rather than restore from backup.

Hi there.
Very green noob here. I just flashed my virgin Exhibit II 4G to 11/26/2012 build. I'm still restoring apps but everything looks good so far. One thing I noticed is that now my connection shows as 3G instead of 4G. Do I really have a problem with my data connection or does this ROM exposes T-Mobile's fake 4G for what it is?
Thanks for all the great work!
JR

JRoque said:
Hi there.
Very green noob here. I just flashed my virgin Exhibit II 4G to 11/26/2012 build. I'm still restoring apps but everything looks good so far. One thing I noticed is that now my connection shows as 3G instead of 4G. Do I really have a problem with my data connection or does this ROM exposes T-Mobile's fake 4G for what it is?
Thanks for all the great work!
JR
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You are correct it shows H when you are in Tmobiles"4G" area nothing wrong with your phone

But on the cm10 thread there is a 4g icon fix, just download, flash,and reboot, should be somewhere within the last few pages
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bsamson said:
Thanks for opening up this CM10-specific, newbie-friendly thread, tazmaniondvl! I've been lurking through the CM10 thread for the past few weeks and have finally decided to take the plunge and install it. Since I've been unable to find a tutorial that meshes cleanly with the Exhibit-based CWM 6.0.1.2 package (found here), I'm hoping that someone could help me with some clarity. Below is the list of steps I've compiled, along with a few questions in italics.
Thanks to all the developers taking the time to build these Exhibit packages, and helping us enjoy our phones even more!
Prerequisites:
Device is already rooted
Battery is charged.
There is sufficient(?) room on the SD card and internal memory.
The thread found here has the latest CWM, CM and gApps downloads.
Download and install the Exhibit-based CWM 6 package. Verify CWM recovery is working.
Download and place the latest Exhibit-based CM10 and Exhibit-based gApps packages onto the External/Internal SD card.
(Please confirm that this can be installed from external SD, as internal SD seems to have so little space.)
Backup all user applications and data (contacts, call logs, messages) to the external SD using Titanium/Go Backup.
Reboot to Recovery.
Select Backup from CWM menu to create a ROM backup.
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the ROM.
(Is this the same as “data/factory reset” from other instructions?)
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache.
(Is this the same as “wipe cache partition” from other instructions?)
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache/dalvik.
Install the CM10 ROM.
Install the gApps package.
Reboot, and enjoy the bliss that is CM10.
Download the apps used to backup up user data, and perform the restore.
Preference is to reinstall all applications from the Play store directly, rather than restore from backup.
Is this correct?
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All that looks good, after you flash gapps and ROM, I always go to advanced and fix permissions
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And I prefer this over cwm
its twrp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016871
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4g icon fix
4G Icon Fix NEW LINK
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permissions
tazmaniondvl said:
I always go to advanced and fix permissions
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I don't think i've done this.. what do you do exactly? what does it do for the phone? I'm using CWM v6.0.1.2

It basically makes sure that the permissions for the system apps are set correctly to run.
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Task Manager
Hi again,
I'm new to using custom ROM, now that I have played more around with the CM10 ROM, I got question: in the stock ROM, they have a task manager which I get used to as a habit to run that and "Clear memory" from time to time (since we all know how the stock rom is laggy and stuff), but i can't find the task manager in CM10, where can i find that?
I don't like the ones in play store as they seem to be a bit complicated (that can kill system processes?), is there a way to get the stock or stock-like task manager (is that touchwiz task manager btw?) in CM10?
I read the CM10 thread, and someone posted this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876216
Can I download and use that even it's not for our phone??
Thank you in advance.

Seyeii said:
Hi again,
I'm new to using custom ROM, now that I have played more around with the CM10 ROM, I got question: in the stock ROM, they have a task manager which I get used to as a habit to run that and "Clear memory" from time to time (since we all know how the stock rom is laggy and stuff), but i can't find the task manager in CM10, where can i find that?
I don't like the ones in play store as they seem to be a bit complicated (that can kill system processes?), is there a way to get the stock or stock-like task manager (is that touchwiz task manager btw?) in CM10?
I read the CM10 thread, and someone posted this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876216
Can I download and use that even it's not for our phone??
Thank you in advance.
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So i have looked over the link of what you have posted, i have not tried that or seen anything like it. However if you would like to try it, download the zip and flash in cwm or twrp, then go to advanced and fix permissions.
EDIT: Just flashed it and it works just fine. Just actually have to click on the app itself instead of holding the home button like on 2.3.6

Seyeii said:
Hi again,
I'm new to using custom ROM, now that I have played more around with the CM10 ROM, I got question: in the stock ROM, they have a task manager which I get used to as a habit to run that and "Clear memory" from time to time (since we all know how the stock rom is laggy and stuff), but i can't find the task manager in CM10, where can i find that?
I don't like the ones in play store as they seem to be a bit complicated (that can kill system processes?), is there a way to get the stock or stock-like task manager (is that touchwiz task manager btw?) in CM10?
I read the CM10 thread, and someone posted this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876216
Can I download and use that even it's not for our phone??
Thank you in advance.
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You might just try Fast Reboot from the Play Store. Works instantly and doesn't actually reboot, just frees up a ton of RAM.

bsamson said:
Thanks for opening up this CM10-specific, newbie-friendly thread, tazmaniondvl! I've been lurking through the CM10 thread for the past few weeks and have finally decided to take the plunge and install it. Since I've been unable to find a tutorial that meshes cleanly with the Exhibit-based CWM 6.0.1.2 package (found here), I'm hoping that someone could help me with some clarity. Below is the list of steps I've compiled, along with a few questions in italics.
Thanks to all the developers taking the time to build these Exhibit packages, and helping us enjoy our phones even more!
Prerequisites:
Device is already rooted
Battery is charged.
There is sufficient(?) room on the SD card and internal memory.
The thread found here has the latest CWM, CM and gApps downloads.
Download and install the Exhibit-based CWM 6 package. Verify CWM recovery is working.
[*]Download and place the latest Exhibit-based CM10 and Exhibit-based gApps packages onto the External/Internal SD card.
(Please confirm that this can be installed from external SD, as internal SD seems to have so little space.)
Backup all user applications and data (contacts, call logs, messages) to the external SD using Titanium/Go Backup.
Reboot to Recovery.
Select Backup from CWM menu to create a ROM backup.
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the ROM.
(Is this the same as “data/factory reset” from other instructions?)
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache.
(Is this the same as “wipe cache partition” from other instructions?)
Under the Wipe menu of CWM, choose to wipe the cache/dalvik.
Install the CM10 ROM.
Install the gApps package.
Reboot, and enjoy the bliss that is CM10.
Download the apps used to backup up user data, and perform the restore.
Preference is to reinstall all applications from the Play store directly, rather than restore from backup.
Is this correct?
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Confirmed you can place ROMs and GApps onto the external SD!:victory:

Jaws4God said:
any updates on T-Mobiles Wifi calling APK? I have tried Groove IP, Google Voice and Sidecar... but they just don't work like the T-mobile version...
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It is being worked, as soon as we find something that works, we will update the cm10 thread

2 Bizarre issues

I have 2 issues that are really starting to tick me off. At first they were just an annoyance, but now... GRRR!!!
1st issue:
Randomly, my D3 will just reboot, and it goes to ROM Manager's Recovery and stays there until I do something. So if this happens at say 3AM, I don't have an alarm clock any more as I get a list to Reboot, Backup/Restore, Update from ZIP, etc.
2nd issue:
Everytime the phone reboots, the same 32 apps are uninstalled. No, not just missing the icon, COMPLETELY uninstalled as reloading the Homescreen DOES NOT load the applications, they are still uninstalled. It also refreezes an app I have to keep unfreezing. Some of the apps are installed to the phone, some are moved off the phone to the media area, some contain no extra data/download.
Things I've tried:
1. Mounting system as RW, reinstalling them all, and rebooting, no luck.
2. Mount system partition, used Permissions Pro to reset all permissions (I don't like some games having to load at boot, I think it's stupid, so I denied them that) and performed step 1 again, no luck.
3. Used ROM Toolbox Pro to fix permissions, and performed step 1 again, no luck.
4. Moved the apps that were in the media area back to the phone, back to the media area, and back to the phone, no luck.
5. Reinstalling and unfreezing and rebooting without doing anything special, no luck.
6. Yelling and screaming at it, as well as threaten it's life, no luck.
7. Begged it to behave, no luck.
Droid 3, Rooted, ROM Manager (with ClockworkMod Recovery), Titanium Backup, a few of the VZW bloatware removed.
I'm willing to do a factory reset, but will I have to re-root? I don't mind losing ClockworkMod Recovery if needed, as I want to safestrap it anyways. I have searched many forums over and over, includling those not for Droid 3 devices, but they all have to do with the app appearing uninstalled, not actually being removed off the phone.
Thanks greatly.

I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
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Jason Roach said:
I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA
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Stock ROM.

if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs

SBF and use Safestrap next time.

correct, just install minimoto, or XT861 5.8.25 Stock ROM. Android 2.3.6

sd_shadow said:
if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
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Thanks! I am on .906, so I'm downloading that huge 450 MB 1click file, but I have a few questions..
1. Do I have to re-root?
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
Thanks very much for you help thus far.

before flashing 906 sbf, you may want to back up app/data with titanium backup, texts/call log with sms backup+, confirm contacts are backed up
1. Do I have to re-root?
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yes, use motofail
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
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yes but I would take update, like recommended by ovelayer
Once you have successfully sbf'd you will have to reinstall the .906 ota. you can accomplish this one of 2 ways
1. Go to settings/about phone/system updates and follow the steps
2. Download the update from this thread push it to your EXTERNAL sdcard boot your phone into STOCK recovery pwr+x choose install update
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3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
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use the How to install and use safe strap 3.05 on the droid 3 for true multi booting on ROMs, video in that post
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
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they are similar, with safestap you leave stock rom, custom roms are install differently so you can switch back and forth between reboots
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also ovelayer doesn't cover, wiping data
if phone bootloops, after flashing sbf, try wiping cache in android recovery
Android system recovery <3a>
with device off
hold X & power, when you see triangle, !, & Andy, press both volume buttons
if phone still bootloops go back to android recovery, and wipe data
or save sometime, and wipe data before flashing sbf

So, I did the whole 1-click-sbf thing, activated the phone, didn't install anything yet, but I did update all the system apps (GMail app, Play Store, etc) and everything was good. I also restored my text messages and call history.
I rooted the phone just fine as well.
Then I started to download and install some apps by using the market not my Titanium Backups.
Moved the ones to the Media Area that didn't automatically move.
Rebooted again, and some apps are uninstalled again, but this time, all of them are ones that were moved to SD card, but not all SD moved apps got uninstalled.
So, what I decided to do, is reinstall the missing apps and keep them on the phone to see what happens. The ones that were uninstalling are now staying installed, however, now some that never uninstalled (that are on the SD) are uninstalling themselves. GRR!
So, the last thing I tried is to now reinstall the uninstalled apps, move them back to the phone, and reboot to see what happens now... I finally got around to finishing up this and after this last reboot, NEW applications that never got uninstalled are now uninstalled.
Time for new phone perhaps?

maybe reformat, your sd card?

sd_shadow said:
maybe reformat, your sd card?
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Internal or External (32 GB MicroSD)?
I formatted internal when I did the1 click thingy.

formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards

sd_shadow said:
formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards
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I went to settings, storage, format.

I never did have good success with Titanium.
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MrObvious said:
I never did have good success with Titanium.
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It may depend on what you are trying to restore
I use the same backups on D2, DX2, and D3
but I don't play games, and use sms backup + for text and call logs

I've never had a problem with tibu, as long as I only use it for user apps.
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium

Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
Does TEC from VZW cover this type of issue? I can un-root the phone and they'd be none the wiser.

Whooaahh said:
Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
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Moving apps to the "media area" is a kludge at best and I avoid it. Every once in a while I check settings->applications to see if any apps snuck their way there, and I move all of them back to internal.

So I wiped the phone again, repeated the whole 1-click file thingy as last time, seems to be going rather smooth this time around. While poking around, I noticed a built-in (and probably bloatware) application not installed. I tried to google it to see what it does, but nothing is really all that clear. The package is called 'com.verizon.permissions.appdirectedsms' and I found it missing through TiBu. However, SMS works just fine.
Anyone able to advise what the package does, or did? I haven't updated to 906 yet, so perhaps it's something new with that and that's why it's missing? Guess I should update first shouldn't I? Ok, I will. I'll update when it's done.
Many, many thanks to all of you!

what do you mean not installed, if its in the system apps folder its installed
not all system apks show up in apps drawer
and titanium may have a different name for it
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Guide for mounts2sd?

Can anyone provide a guide on how to install/configure mounts2sd for the Nexus One on Jelly Bean (CM 10.1) so that I can move my apps from my internal memory to my sd-ext?
I installed the app from Google Play and had nothing but trouble with it. It initially says that busybox isn't configured properly and that the init.d script is either missing or not installed. I proceed to configure busybox and install the init.d script, but after rebooting my "downloaded" apps disappear. These downloaded apps include the Google Play Store and mounts2sd! So even if I wanted to reverse the process, I can't because the app is gone.
I would appreciate if anyone could explain how to do this properly since there is very limited space on the Nexus One, especially after installing Jelly Bean on a custom HBOOT.
Thanks!

I think you have to put mounts2sd.zip on your SD card and flash it from recovery. That's how I use it and it's really straight forward if you have flashed anything before. I wasn't aware it could be installed as an app from playstore. Are you sure it's notjust a GUI for the script?
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350Rocket said:
I think you have to put mounts2sd.zip on your SD card and flash it from recovery. That's how I use it and it's really straight forward if you have flashed anything before. I wasn't aware it could be installed as an app from playstore. Are you sure it's notjust a GUI for the script?
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I'm not sure really. I thought it was another way of doing it, but thanks for the info. If I flash it through recovery, you're saying that it won't give me any errors?

LoaderAi said:
I'm not sure really. I thought it was another way of doing it, but thanks for the info. If I flash it through recovery, you're saying that it won't give me any errors?
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Nope, you should be fine with that. However, I recommend you flash it on right after you flash the ROM and before you install any apps.

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sphinxcs898 said:
Nope, you should be fine with that. However, I recommend you flash it on right after you flash the ROM and before you install any apps.
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I'm having tons of trouble with the app. I can't get it to work..I must be missing something. I've tried flashing it right after installing the rom (CM 10.1). I've tried installing it from the app store. I've even tried SuperSu just to see if something weird was happening there. I probably reflashed the rom like 5 times last night trying different ways of installing Mounts2SD.
Could it be that I used 4EXT Recovery RC9? I dunno how much of an effect using that recovery may have had since it is in testing..
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darkazcura said:
I'm having tons of trouble with the app. I can't get it to work..I must be missing something. I've tried flashing it right after installing the rom (CM 10.1). I've tried installing it from the app store. I've even tried SuperSu just to see if something weird was happening there. I probably reflashed the rom like 5 times last night trying different ways of installing Mounts2SD.
Could it be that I used 4EXT Recovery RC9? I dunno how much of an effect using that recovery may have had since it is in testing..
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What kind of problems are you having? Can you be more specific?

How to install on ROM MIUIv5

First: Mounts2SD is such a great tool!! Incredbly super software!
On Nexus One with 32GB sd card:
What best settings would you recommend in mounts2SD?
Is it good to make a swap partition? 1GB?
Which on should be set to sd-card? Apps, data, Cache & Dalvik-Cache and even System Apps?
One point:
If i configure the cache&system cache to be in internal memory, then the internal memory is quite full, so it's impossible to install bigger apps from play store. This only works, if i keep everything to sd-memory so that the internal memory is free. Now I found the setting "System > Storage Treshold". Would this one help with this problem?
But the max. setting is 10% (=20MB on Nexus1). Would that help even with bigger apps (> 20 MB) to install?
I now have all (except system apps) moved to sd, so that i can install bigger apps from play store, but my Nexus One it now very slow and constantly removing Apps from memory etc.
Who can give some hints?
Regards, Marc

I think better use INT2EXT to partition