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Hi, I've researching this phone lately and am coming from an S3. I was wondering if this phone has any lag at all associated with it? I mean the S3 is a great phone that hardly ever lags as well and this is more or less just a oc version of the same chip (simplicity sake). But just wanted to get a feel for everyone's experience. I know the camera is sub par according to the thread in the general forum, if anyone compared with s3 how much better is the s3 or moto x?
Thanks!
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Hi, I've researching this phone lately and am coming from an S3. I was wondering if this phone has any lag at all associated with it? I mean the S3 is a great phone that hardly ever lags as well and this is more or less just a oc version of the same chip (simplicity sake). But just wanted to get a feel for everyone's experience. I know the camera is sub par according to the thread in the general forum, if anyone compared with s3 how much better is the s3 or moto x?
Thanks!
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Had the S3 i747. The Moto X is a snappier device.
Given, there are no custom ROM's out for the Moto X. The S3 gets very close to it if you run a custom AOSP ROM like AOKP/CM.
But dude, it's got a 4.7 inch screen in a shell slightly wider then an iphone 5. It's really a no brainer. Even stock it is damn well near perfect, as far as speed and battery is concerned. Hardware wise, it's a WICKED device. Check out my battery life here.
At the same time, nobody knows yet how good ROM development will be on Moto X. Will we be able to keep the Moto X specific geature like active notifications, touchless controls when we run custom ROMs? Nobody knows yet
If I were you, I would wait to scope out what the Nexus 5 offers before you make the final decision. Should be pretty soon... leaks are out, LTE is FCC approved, can't be too long till it hits. I know it's LG or whatever, but development is TOOO good on Nexus devices. I had so much fun flashing my N4 =) oh and ROM's were actually stable it was dope
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Had the S3 i747. The Moto X is a snappier device.
Given, there are no custom ROM's out for the Moto X. The S3 gets very close to it if you run a custom AOSP ROM like AOKP/CM.
But dude, it's got a 4.7 inch screen in a shell slightly wider then an iphone 5. It's really a no brainer. Even stock it is damn well near perfect, as far as speed and battery is concerned. Hardware wise, it's a WICKED device. Check out my battery life here.
At the same time, nobody knows yet how good ROM development will be on Moto X. Will we be able to keep the Moto X specific geature like active notifications, touchless controls when we run custom ROMs? Nobody knows yet
If I were you, I would wait to scope out what the Nexus 5 offers before you make the final decision. Should be pretty soon... leaks are out, LTE is FCC approved, can't be too long till it hits. I know it's LG or whatever, but development is TOOO good on Nexus devices. I had so much fun flashing my N4 =) oh and ROM's were actually stable it was dope
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Thanks def gonna check the nexus but only thing keeping this in the race against an s4 or htc one is the always listening thing, size, screen is acceptable could be 1080 but I understand the decision, great battery more than anything. But more importantly I was comparing the size of this phone to s3 and sensation (past phones) and it is just slightly taller and thinner than my sensation which I considered to be almost perfect for size. Will def wait and see dev, it would be awesome if cm and aokp could add moto x features to their roms (always listening?)
So trying to choose between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, I came across the biggest difference between these phones, their development. Moto X has little to none and Nexus 5 has more than any phone out there. This was an easy win for Nexus 5 I thought. Until I read Moto X users saying that flashing ROMs and kernels are normally to fix issues that the stock versions have and that they don't need Custom ROMs and kernels because what they get is stable, smooth, and lasts long enough (battery wise).
I thought back to why I flash ROMs on Note II and my previous phone SII, and fair enough, I used to do it because I wanted to fix issues that came with stock versions. Now, I hate flashing ROMs, I just want to use my phone. Anyways, looking at the development on the Nexus 5, it seems much of it is to fix the speakers, camera, battery life, etc.
Then I thought that Custom ROMs are important to stay up to date with Google's updates but then Motorola released their update faster than Google did with their Nexus 4. They are also updating their 1.5 year old phones (Not the Razr HD or the Razr HD Maxx probably because of their TI chipset). So it looks like Moto X users are in good hands as far as updates are concerned.
What do you guys think? Would you rather have a fully functional stable stock ROM on a phone that has no development otherwise or would you rather get a phone with tons of development to fix issues that the stock ROM has?
I am asking because there may be an angle to development that I haven't considered. Many customizable things included in ROMs on Nexus 5 are available via Xposed on Moto X.
Until I read Moto X users saying that flashing ROMs and kernels are normally to fix issues that the stock versions have and that they don't need Custom ROMs and kernels because what they get is stable, smooth, and lasts long enough (battery wise).
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That's a very narrow perspective. There are lots of reasons one might want to flash a ROM or kernel; the "one size fits all" mentality of other vendors such as Apple and Microsoft need not apply here. Custom ROMs open the door to different features that the OEM might not have considered or wanted to spend time on, and allow the creativity of the general public to enhance the phone in ways that are unique to them or only fits a certain niche that wouldn't be profitable for a big company to try and cater to. It certainly isn't just about "fixing issues".
Though custom ROMs certainly aren't the only feature I would look for in a phone, I might hesitate before buying a phone that little support or, even worse, a locked bootloader with no current workaround or hack for the simple reason that even if there's nothing I'm interested in today, there might be something cool that I want to try out tomorrow.
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there might be something cool that I want to try out tomorrow.
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If you had bought something like the Moto X one year ago, what feature made by the ROM developers on the Nexus 4 would you really want to try out?
I've been debating this myself. I have a Nexus 5 now that I'm testing with TMO prepaid for a month. So far, the phone is really nice and as you said, the level of development is astounding. BUT, I have to leave VZW in order to keep the phone. That's very hard to do when I get a hefty discount on the service and still have unlimited data. I can get LTE pretty much everywhere I go. With TMO, I'm lucky to get Edge data in some places or even a signal at all inside buildings.
I love the look and feel of the X. It's is a great piece of hardware and with the Dev edition, I could stay on VZW. I also like the fact that it runs basically stock Android along with additions that are actually useful and well done. The dev community is very limited though and will most likely stay that way. Moto was quick to get the 4.4 update out but it remains to be seen if that pace will continue. You would hope so but nothing is guaranteed. The X2 may be out next year putting the update schedule for the current model on the back burner.
I had the original Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus. I've always been a diehard AOSP guy. Every phone I've owned in between has always been on a custom AOSP based ROM in order to get close to that Nexus experience. I'm attracted to custom ROMs not because they fix bugs, but because they allow me to always stay on a current version of Android (no waiting for carrier updates) and add some nice features to the basic AOSP design. Custom kernels can also improve overall performance and battery life even if you decide to stay stock otherwise. The Nexus line will always have the edge in this regard.
I wanted to be blown away with the N5 and content with TMO but I'm second guessing my decision each day.....
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So trying to choose between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, I came across the biggest difference between these phones, their development. Moto X has little to none and Nexus 5 has more than any phone out there. This was an easy win for Nexus 5 I thought. Until I read Moto X users saying that flashing ROMs and kernels are normally to fix issues that the stock versions have and that they don't need Custom ROMs and kernels because what they get is stable, smooth, and lasts long enough (battery wise).
I thought back to why I flash ROMs on Note II and my previous phone SII, and fair enough, I used to do it because I wanted to fix issues that came with stock versions. Now, I hate flashing ROMs, I just want to use my phone. Anyways, looking at the development on the Nexus 5, it seems much of it is to fix the speakers, camera, battery life, etc.
Then I thought that Custom ROMs are important to stay up to date with Google's updates but then Motorola released their update faster than Google did with their Nexus 4. They are also updating their 1.5 year old phones (Not the Razr HD or the Razr HD Maxx probably because of their TI chipset). So it looks like Moto X users are in good hands as far as updates are concerned.
What do you guys think? Would you rather have a fully functional stable stock ROM on a phone that has no development otherwise or would you rather get a phone with tons of development to fix issues that the stock ROM has?
I am asking because there may be an angle to development that I haven't considered. Many customizable things included in ROMs on Nexus 5 are available via Xposed on Moto X.
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I am running the N5 stock and have no reason to root or flash a custom Rom. Never thought I would say that about my phone but I am actually content with the N5 the way it is. There are some cool features that devs add in but then you get sucked into this never ending flashing frenzy which I have been in for years.
It is good to actually enjoy the phone now and keep the software on it for more then a few days. lol
Anyway, the screen alone on the N5 is enough for what I consider a big step up from the Moto X. I have friends with Moto X's which I actually recommended to them since they are on Verizon and it was being offered for free on contract. I do think it is a great phone with some great features. Not enough there to sway my decision to get one over a N5 though.
I do applaud Motorola for their unbelievable quick update and I bet we start to see some other maunfacturers start stepping up their game as well. We have seen this recently with HTC also.
The question to ask yourself is what is important to you. Another good thing with the Moto X is it generally stocks with the stock Android feel so it almost resembles Nexus software.
Bottom line, when I turn on my N5 after playing with the Moto X, the Moto X does not in any way make me want to buy one for myself.
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I've been debating this myself. I have a Nexus 5 now that I'm testing with TMO prepaid for a month. So far, the phone is really nice and as you said, the level of development is astounding. BUT, I have to leave VZW in order to keep the phone. That's very hard to do when I get a hefty discount on the service and still have unlimited data. I can get LTE pretty much everywhere I go. With TMO, I'm lucky to get Edge data in some places or even a signal at all inside buildings.
I love the look and feel of the X. It's is a great piece of hardware and with the Dev edition, I could stay on VZW. I also like the fact that it runs basically stock Android along with additions that are actually useful and well done. The dev community is very limited though and will most likely stay that way. Moto was quick to get the 4.4 update out but it remains to be seen if that pace will continue. You would hope so but nothing is guaranteed. The X2 may be out next year putting the update schedule for the current model on the back burner.
I had the original Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus. I've always been a diehard AOSP guy. Every phone I've owned in between has always been on a custom AOSP based ROM in order to get close to that Nexus experience. I'm attracted to custom ROMs not because they fix bugs, but because they allow me to always stay on a current version of Android (no waiting for carrier updates) and add some nice features to the basic AOSP design. Custom kernels can also improve overall performance and battery life even if you decide to stay stock otherwise. The Nexus line will always have the edge in this regard.
I wanted to be blown away with the N5 and content with TMO but I'm second guessing my decision each day.....
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Why not go to a MVNO that uses AT&T towers? Would still be much chepaer then Verizon and they offer much better coverage then T-Mo.
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I am running the N5 stock and have no reason to root or flash a custom Rom. Never thought I would say that about my phone but I am actually content with the N5 the way it is. There are some cool features that devs add in but then you get sucked into this never ending flashing frenzy which I have been in for years.
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Don't you want to improve the Audio and the battery life by trying out the kernels and the mods made here?
Anyway, the screen alone on the N5 is enough for what I consider a big step up from the Moto X.
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I assume you mean resolution? I was under the impression that 1080p and 720p are not that different under daily usage?
It all comes down to your habits. I love flashing new ROM's, I sometimes try multiple ROM's per week. So for me, development means a lot. It's why I switched from the S4 to the N5. The S4 just received 4.3 and was locked down by Knox. Plus, with the N5 being an unlocked phone, you can flash any ROM on any carrier, so you won't ever have to drool over another carrier's ROM.
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It all comes down to your habits. I love flashing new ROM's, I sometimes try multiple ROM's per week. So for me, development means a lot. It's why I switched from the S4 to the N5. The S4 just received 4.3 and was locked down by Knox. Plus, with the N5 being an unlocked phone, you can flash any ROM on any carrier, so you won't ever have to drool over another carrier's ROM.
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I also flash a ton of ROMs every week and also used to enjoy it, but I am getting tired of it now... I want to live life more than flash ROMs (if that makes sense)
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If you had bought something like the Moto X one year ago, what feature made by the ROM developers on the Nexus 4 would you really want to try out?
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Anything and everything. The top reason I don't even consider not getting a Nexus device anymore is the development scene. Look, you're viewing the huge development community on the Nexus line as people who are "fixing" a "broken" stock image. That's not really true. The stock image is perfectly fine. The developers are merely making things that they deem better than how stock handled it. For instance, a developer might think that the on-screen buttons are too large on stock, taking up way too much screen real-estate. They would then develop a way to remove it, but still be able to navigate. They might make something like PIE controls. Now, I may agree that the buttons really are too large, but I like the nav bar. So I might just resize it, instead of working around it.
I guess the point I'm making is, all of those modifications you see to "improve" the stock image are there to "improve" it, but what counts as an "improvement" is completely subjective. There are different people in the world with vastly differentiating opinions about things, so they will make something to improve something else as they see fit. The development sections here on XDA are merely huge repositories of any modification that anyone who was willing to make, made. Looking at them all as collectively-required flashable improvements isn't how it should be viewed. That's the beauty of having a large development community. You can pick and choose, depending on your personal opinions, which modifications are improvements and flash them. Another way to think of it is cookie-cutter vs modular. Do you want a phone that appeals the masses,;a one-size fits all, or a phone that is completely customizable?
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Don't you want to improve the Audio and the battery life by trying out the kernels and the mods made here?
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Battery life has been great on stock for me. Absolutley no complaints here. I have ran so many custom kernels on prior phones and never saw a large boost in battery from them. Lots of times it would actually be worse.
The speaker volume can definitley use a boost and the camera needs some fixing. I know there is some dev work for both of these issues but I am going to hang a little and see if Google fixes it. If not, I might think about rooting solely for those 2 things. If Google fixes it, absolutley no reason for me to root this time around.
Anyway, as a prior flashoholic there is no better phone then a Nexus for people who like to flash Roms and like every feature on the sun. No other phones custom Roms work as good as they do on a Nexus.
Development is like the first determining factor for me when buying phones.
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I assume you mean resolution? I was under the impression that 1080p and 720p are not that different under daily usage?
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Screen size. A 5" screen starts the sweet spot for a device that uses on-screen buttons. I always felt shorted on prior 4.7" screens with on screen buttons. Like there wasn't enough viewing real estate. Sure you can remove the on-screen buttons but then you would need something that always to longer to activate then the actual buttons being present.
I also think the quality and colors of the N5 screen are just gorgous.
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So trying to choose between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, I came across the biggest difference between these phones, their development. Moto X has little to none and Nexus 5 has more than any phone out there. This was an easy win for Nexus 5 I thought. Until I read Moto X users saying that flashing ROMs and kernels are normally to fix issues that the stock versions have and that they don't need Custom ROMs and kernels because what they get is stable, smooth, and lasts long enough (battery wise).
I thought back to why I flash ROMs on Note II and my previous phone SII, and fair enough, I used to do it because I wanted to fix issues that came with stock versions. Now, I hate flashing ROMs, I just want to use my phone. Anyways, looking at the development on the Nexus 5, it seems much of it is to fix the speakers, camera, battery life, etc.
Then I thought that Custom ROMs are important to stay up to date with Google's updates but then Motorola released their update faster than Google did with their Nexus 4. They are also updating their 1.5 year old phones (Not the Razr HD or the Razr HD Maxx probably because of their TI chipset). So it looks like Moto X users are in good hands as far as updates are concerned.
What do you guys think? Would you rather have a fully functional stable stock ROM on a phone that has no development otherwise or would you rather get a phone with tons of development to fix issues that the stock ROM has?
I am asking because there may be an angle to development that I haven't considered. Many customizable things included in ROMs on Nexus 5 are available via Xposed on Moto X.
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I just got rid of my moto x for the N5 for this very reason. The moto x is a great device and probably the best carrier controlled device to date.
That being said, it drove me nuts to be locked down with a locked bootloader and no development. Knowing the n5 is open and has all the Dev support means I have control over MY phone, not AT&T and not Motorola.
After dealing with the locked down s4, I promised myself I would never get another device without an unlockable bootloader. I caved when the moto x came out and as I said it's one amazing device but at the end of the day, I'll be sticking with nexus devices from here on out.
To me it's not worth giving up that freedom but for you it may not matter.
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Development totally cones into it for me. One of the biggest considerations.
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Development is like the first determining factor for me when buying phones.
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Development totally cones into it for me. One of the biggest considerations.
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Please elaborate. I want to know which features exactly do Custom ROMs provide that you won't be able to get from the xposed mod that you would want that much.
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That being said, it drove me nuts to be locked down with a locked bootloader and no development. Knowing the n5 is open and has all the Dev support means I have control over MY phone, not AT&T and not Motorola.
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If I do get the Moto X, then I will get the Developer Unlocked model.
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Development is like the first determining factor for me when buying phones.
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Same here, after my first Nexus phone, I could never go back to a phone that didn't have a strong dev. community behind it. For me; tablets and phones are as much about the journey of playing with ROM/kernel/mods as they are a communication device.
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Please elaborate. I want to know which features exactly do Custom ROMs provide that you won't be able to get from the xposed mod that you would want that much.
If I do get the Moto X, then I will get the Developer Unlocked model.
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No stock rom mod can touch the stability and features of cyanogenmod. It is the only way to do anroid. In fact I prefer iOS over stock android. But CM is awesome.
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No stock rom mod can touch the stability and features of cyanogenmod. It is the only way to do anroid. In fact I prefer iOS over stock android. But CM is awesome.
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To be honest, CM's future plans SERIOUSLY excite me.. Like that recent conversation feature
CyanogenMod, AOKP, AOSPA support, along with great kernel devs. The Nexus 5 is essentially guaranteed support for these things, and these are things I like.
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Please elaborate. I want to know which features exactly do Custom ROMs provide that you won't be able to get from the xposed mod that you would want that much.
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Who said anything about roms or features? Its all about kernels.
But if you look at ROMS like PAC, you'll see what features true roms can offer over xposed
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Is it just me or does it seem like a lot, not all, but a lot of the devs have moved on to other devices?
If so, it makes me sad to see that the first real Google phone was so quickly abandoned.
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Is it just me or does it seem like a lot, not all, but a lot of the devs have moved on to other devices?
If so, it makes me sad to see that the first real Google phone was so quickly abandoned.
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How exactly are you defining this as "the first real google phone?"
Do the nexus devices not count?
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Is it just me or does it seem like a lot, not all, but a lot of the devs have moved on to other devices?
If so, it makes me sad to see that the first real Google phone was so quickly abandoned.
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The other issue is custom features. Moto X users love active display and touchless control, and other than that it is AOSP. there is very little reason for development besides debloated / odexed roms, of which there are plenty
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Is it just me or does it seem like a lot, not all, but a lot of the devs have moved on to other devices?
If so, it makes me sad to see that the first real Google phone was so quickly abandoned.
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This is the first phone I felt didn't need a custom ROM. I just installed xposed and gravity box and it's golden. Love this phone.
Unfortunately, the stock rom and features being so good has doomed development for this phone IMO. It's a bit expected since this is what I've wanted since my earliest days with with Android. Moto did a great job with it.
There isn't much demand for custom ROMs, especially since it's already running nearly stock (with useful enhancements that would be lost). If you want the miscellaneous customization options included in most ROMS, just install Xposed Framework and grab one of the various modules available (gravity box seems to be the most popular)
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The other issue is custom features. Moto X users love active display and touchless control, and other than that it is AOSP. there is very little reason for development besides debloated / odexed roms, of which there are plenty
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I have to agree there. I unlocked my Moto X but only to root it and put Xposed framework on it. After that I installed Gravity Box to customize it how I wanted.
CyanogenMod 11 is official for it but its not posted here. Dhacker forgot to make a Moto X thread. Its under msm8960dt instead of xt1060 etc.. as they unified all the Moto X builds: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=moto_msm8960dt
The things I gave up using CM 11 when I tried it that brought me back was lack of NFC HCE support (Google Wallet Tap and Pay wont work), Touchless Control, and no Active Display. Granted ACDisplay app has made great strides and, once they get the gravity wake features enabled, I would not mind using that instead of AD. GW issue is something though that bothers me.
I think the only time I will consider a rom for this phone is once Motorola stops updating it and a new version of Android comes out that CyanogenMod is building from.
I too have to agree with what most people have been saying about the X. All of my previous Android phones were Samsung phones. I was a serious flashaholic with them. AOKP was my favorite on my S3. I hated touchjizz with a passion. Now, with the X, I'm completely satisfied with running stock. I never thought that would happen. All I have that's custom on my X is Faux's kernel. And, I'm happy as a clam.
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Yup.... This really isn't a "flashing"phone. Its an enjoy stock and the moto features and use gravity box to customize phone.
Very few seem to be using the ROMs that are available.... And as said, its cause you lose all the custom moto features, which are a big reason people bought the phone to begin with.
Also, the dangers of downgrading have played a part in people not wanting to mess with it too much I think.
I loved my x, and still recommend it to anyone I know looking for a phone....but yeah, I passed it to my wife for an n5....cause I was bored. Lol
Maybe you should try a similar move? Unless you're content. Cause unless the moto features make it to custom ROMs.....development won't pick up anytime soon. Maybe when updates end, then custom ROMs may pick up.
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I'll simply add that my 2 cents echo's those above - the phone does what I want it to do, and well. Its already running the up to date OS, which on prior devices was my main reason for flashing in the first place.
ROM development should pick up after our phones are dropped from OTAs. For the time being, stock does everything you need and it's crazy stable.
I bought this phone so I didn't have to rely on development.
Xposed framework seems to be all I need on this phone at least until it starts falling behind on future ota's as I plan on keeping it for a while.
Xposed Framework is more than enough to fill any custom rom desires.
Moto X is pratically AOSP with lots of really useful features like Active Display that I can't imagine living without now.
As much as I love AOSP and have loved using custom roms, Moto did too good of a job to warrant the constant flashing of nightlies, restoring backups, getting all my apps back, testing builds for bugs etc. I do still enjoy trying out different roms from time to time just for fun.
With all that said, I'm enjoying the stock based roms, and the stock rom + xposed. My plan is to continue using stock based roms and every month or so try a custom kernel, see what combination gives me the best battery life and smoothness, enjoy having a bug free phone, and taunt my friends with the awesome moto goodies (they really seem to envy touchless control, as they should!)
Honestly, once we stop receiving OTA's, I'll start looking for a new device. But, damn, it's going to take something special to force me to make a change.. A DE Moto X with unlimited data on Verizon, what the hell more could a guy want?!
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As much as I love AOSP and have loved using custom roms, Moto did too good of a job to warrant the constant flashing of nightlies, restoring backups, getting all my apps back, testing builds for bugs etc. I do still enjoy trying out different roms from time to time just for fun.
With all that said, I'm enjoying the stock based roms, and the stock rom + xposed. My plan is to continue using stock based roms and every month or so try a custom kernel, see what combination gives me the best battery life and smoothness, enjoy having a bug free phone, and taunt my friends with the awesome moto goodies (they really seem to envy touchless control, as they should!)
Honestly, once we stop receiving OTA's, I'll start looking for a new device. But, damn, it's going to take something special to force me to make a change.. A DE Moto X with unlimited data on Verizon, what the hell more could a guy want?!
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Its crazy how vzw makes you lose your unlimited data if you upgrade. At&t doesn't. But yeah I was going to get the gs5 but changed my mind. I'm going to hold off to see what the moto x+1 is going to be like. I'm pretty interested in the iPhone 6 and see what it has to offer also. But going to keep my x till later on in the year.
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Its crazy how vzw makes you lose your unlimited data if you upgrade. At&t doesn't. But yeah I was going to get the gs5 but changed my mind. I'm going to hold off to see what the moto x+1 is going to be like. I'm pretty interested in the iPhone 6 and see what it has to offer also. But going to keep my x till later on in the year.
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I actually just used all the upgrades on my family plan through best buy and kept the unlimited data, some glitch in the best buy system, used mine on an iPhone 5S and sold it. But yeah it sucks you have to jump through hoops and get lucky to keep unlimited with Verizon.
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i dont agree. development is not dead. if you look at the newest custom roms then you see 99.9% everything works. there is nearly every custom rom available.
there is just not too much kernel developers. it is ok because they also dont develop their kernels like before, they just import a kernel source from vendor and patch it with experimental features and you can not modify them without pay their apps. just remember siyah kernel and you know what i mean...
Its not like it needs it a whole lot. Its already running just about stock, already on a new build of KitKat, and has a lot of features you can't add in with another ROM like touch less control. We have xposed modules so what more can you ask for?
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I havent found one ROM that doesn't have an issue albeit small issues but issues all the same. Why flash a ROM that takes away touch less control and notifications and in my opinion doesn't run any better than stock., just to have small issues. There is just no benefit that I could find. The best ROM I tried was gummy but the stock email app continuously tried to load emails killing the battery.
Hello all,
I am looking to pick up a Moto X (xt1095) to replace my xt1053. I am a little dismayed however at the lack of availability of roms for the device.
I am used to having CM or Slim or at least gravitybox running, and it looks like none of these are working yet for this phone. Is this simply because of the recent release of Lollipop and the scarcity of the Moto X or is there some underlying problem?
Basically, is there hope for the future?
Probably has more to do with most devs not touching Moto because of how developer hostile they were years ago. Also I suspect most are waiting to see if the Lenovo takeover pushes moto into a more "old moto" stance on devs again.
I was wondering the same, the phone has so much potential, why no development at all?
Thanks for the responses. I was hoping I suppose to at least see CM and some other mainstream developers already onboard, but I guess it's just because 3rd party devs haven't built around lollipop yet.
Same problem with Xposed.
Pan Skrzetuski said:
Hello all,
I am looking to pick up a Moto X (xt1095) to replace my xt1053. I am a little dismayed however at the lack of availability of roms for the device.
I am used to having CM or Slim or at least gravitybox running, and it looks like none of these are working yet for this phone. Is this simply because of the recent release of Lollipop and the scarcity of the Moto X or is there some underlying problem?
Basically, is there hope for the future?
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Chris123NT said:
Probably has more to do with most devs not touching Moto because of how developer hostile they were years ago. Also I suspect most are waiting to see if the Lenovo takeover pushes moto into a more "old moto" stance on devs again.
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There's a short thread in the General section with a developer looking for some files so he can start to build CM11 and 12. Several days old.
I got my pure edition on the way, and I also noticed the lack of ROMs. - I currently have an N5, my girlfriend really likes it so I'm going to give it to her for Christmas, was not really looking to upgrade, but oh well.
I really do hope the scene for this phone picks up a bit, otherwise I might just sell it and go back to N5... Unless the phone is so amazing that it will keep me from the ROM scene, but I don't know... I'm a flashaholic.
On the same subject - My friend got the same phone, but he mentioned needing to contact Motorola to get a bootloader unlock code so he could root it, is that a necessary step, or can that be avoided?
I understand the above step voids warranty, could also be why people are staying away from cooking ROMs for this.
Shemploo said:
I got my pure edition on the way, and I also noticed the lack of ROMs. - I currently have an N5, my girlfriend really likes it so I'm going to give it to her for Christmas, was not really looking to upgrade, but oh well.
I really do hope the scene for this phone picks up a bit, otherwise I might just sell it and go back to N5... Unless the phone is so amazing that it will keep me from the ROM scene, but I don't know... I'm a flashaholic.
On the same subject - My friend got the same phone, but he mentioned needing to contact Motorola to get a bootloader unlock code so he could root it, is that a necessary step, or can that be avoided?
I understand the above step voids warranty, could also be why people are staying away from cooking ROMs for this.
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You just have to go to their website( https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a ) and follow their instructions to unlock their phone.. Contacting them is not necessary. Voiding the warranty has been the case for multiple phones, however it hasn't stopped devs before.. Doubt that is the case
I bought the pure edition yesterday, I did my research and figured it would be better than a nexus 6 (way to big for me) and bought it. I assumed there was plenty of Dev work, I mean its a near stock phone and will likely outsell the nexus 6, but there's not even an official build of CM!!! Even the gnex is getting cm12. I just don't understand it. Z
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I bought the pure edition yesterday, I did my research and figured it would be better than a nexus 6 (way to big for me) and bought it. I assumed there was plenty of Dev work, I mean its a near stock phone and will likely outsell the nexus 6, but there's not even an official build of CM!!! Even the gnex is getting cm12. I just don't understand it. Z
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That's funny cause CM is my least favorite of ROMs, they always seem to break things when they make changes, and ROMs based on CM are always left in the dark trying to catch up, fix whatever broke as result.
If there's not much being developed for this, I suppose I'd probably go back to 4.4 and work around it with xposed.
I think more development will come in time but I think most are waiting for stable 5.0 first. I look forward to gravitybox but personally I have never been as happy on any rom as I am AOSP(ish) and don't see the need with a phone like this to install any roms. It was more necessary back "in the day" to get rid of crapware and overbloated UI's (*cough* Touchwiz *cough*). Phones like the Nexus series, GPE editions, and the Moto X's have made me personally re-evaluate my interest in full ROM's.
If you guys were around when the original Moto x came out, then you'd remember that it also had a lack of roms and dev action when it launched... However now it's getting cm 12 like no one's business... I think it's just a matter of time before the roms start rolling in
Hi!
Of course googling gives a general idea of them all but it would be great to know how you guys/girls feel it relates to the first gen Moto X, seeing on how I don't need to convince any of you of its amazingness.
I just resurrected my old XT1058 and for the life of me I can't see how any of the new phones out there are any better. I feel sane again holding it in my hand, something I haven't felt in a long time.
I'm a heavy user of things like sms, voice, calendar, and google maps and I'm quite happy with it's performance.
My concern is long term viability. I understand stagefright is dealt with by upgrading to lollipop 5.1 I think. But what about the future? If more vulnerabilities come out, is this why we might consider a custom ROM, for example?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
Dannym.asdf said:
Hi!
Of course googling gives a general idea of them all but it would be great to know how you guys/girls feel it relates to the first gen Moto X, seeing on how I don't need to convince any of you of its amazingness.
I just resurrected my old XT1058 and for the life of me I can't see how any of the new phones out there are any better. I feel sane again holding it in my hand, something I haven't felt in a long time.
I'm a heavy user of things like sms, voice, calendar, and google maps and I'm quite happy with it's performance.
My concern is long term viability. I understand stagefright is dealt with by upgrading to lollipop 5.1 I think. But what about the future? If more vulnerabilities come out, is this why we might consider a custom ROM, for example?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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I feel like going Oogway on you. Yesterday is history , tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift . That is why it's called the present . We don't know what's going to happen when it comes to vulnerabilities ....
Long term viability you say ? I'd point out that the hardware is your main point of concern, Buy a spare battery . When it comes to software , I'll bet that after the first year, the whole voice control activity is minimal. The only thing that you might miss is the Active Display . Or not , considering that the "ACDisplay" application and inbuilt "Ambient display" in AOSP based ROMs have reported to work just as well as the stock ROM.
Your options aren't limited when it comes to custom ROMs either . Megatron007 is pushing out excellent ROMs at an alarming rate .
We have official support from the cyanogen Mod team .
Stock ROM (4.4.4) is rock solid and Xposed can give you everything else you need .
:highfive: Imma hold on to this baby for a while .
P.S
2 Years on and no complaints other than an unoptimized Lollipop stock ROM... Wait ! they covered that too . (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/crashx-t3223361)