Android battery stats look incorrect - Moto X Q&A

For everyone having high battery drain on cell standby on 5,1, I think the issue isn't as bad as the Android battery stats show in settings. I have installed Gsam Battery Monitor and the stats that the app show, are way different then the stats that the battery settings show. The Gsam Battery stats look much more realistic.
I have the stats from a day and a half, but I didn't turn on cell data, unless I needed it, which gets rid of the cell standby bug on lollipop, so you don't see the high cell stanby issue. Today I will keep data and WiFi on and post tomorrow, just to show the high cell data battery usage on Android settings, compared to GSM Battery.

Notice the screen use is 20% different, the WiFi is 4% different, which is almost a third, even with data off to stop high cell stanby battery use, my radio uses a total of 9%, but GSM battery app, has a total of 3%, which is 2/3rd less. The only thing, that looks correct is app use in settings battery.
It will be interesting to see the difference on cell standby and phone idle, when I have WiFi and data on the whole time, which makes the cell stanby use like 50% in the battery settings stats for me normally. I will post when my phone gets low

BrownDog99 said:
Notice the screen use is 20% different, the WiFi is 4% different, which is almost a third, even with data off to stop high cell stanby battery use, my radio uses a total of 9%, but GSM battery app, has a total of 3%, which is 2/3rd less. The only thing, that looks correct is app use in settings battery.
It will be interesting to see the difference on cell standby and phone idle, when I have WiFi and data on the whole time, which makes the cell stanby use like 50% in the battery settings stats for me normally. I will post when my phone gets low
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These effects are not bugs in general. LP just has bad description of what Cell Stand-by is exactly. Same goes to wifi and other stuff.
It's also very bad idea in general to claim bugs, when you have so little info to rely on, let alone how accurate the tools you use are.
Unless you got direct access to actual measurement of a given component, everything goes in the realm of hugely distorted approximation.
In other words, you're wasting your time.But hey, it's your time after all!

Um this is a well known bug not claimed by me lol

Play store services says 30% in the Android settings and 1.2% in GSM today. The cell stanby us at 20% in Android and 10% in GSm

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[Q] Battery usage issue: battery cronology and force close

Hi, i have an issue about battery drain here in froyo with official rom and speedmod kernel.
I notice a 4% per hour in stand-by drain.
If i check with *#*#4636#*#*, under "battery cronology", watching network usage i find something strange...
the most used application , more than email and everything else, is called "0".
When i try to click on it, watching details, i have a force close.
Is there something i can do ? i wouldn't wipe all data to check if i resolve...
Thank you
The same for me.
I have a big battery draining when the phone is on stand-by. For example this last night, i fully charged it, and in 12 hours the battery drained a 10% without using it, with juicedefender installed and configured to auto on 1 minute every 15.
I think that i dont have the gallery sensor issue, but my battery drains more than i think is normal, and i have the "0" under network usage, and get force close when clicking it.
It's the same for me as well..anyone knows what the '0' is??
I'm on JPA build.
same thing happen to me.........try to off your data plan and it will save lots of your battery juice.........unless u are really checking email on your phone of course this doesnt help!!
is it normal to lose 20% charge in standby within 4 hours? i have almost everything off and it still drain my battery like crazy. Sync is off, data is off, wifi policy is sleep when screen is off, gps off, bluetooth off. Anything you name it i have it off. I have "spare part" installed and looking a the stats i don't see anything else eating the battery life. Only thing i see under other usage. is "Running (33.9%)", "Screen on (9.3%), "Wifi on (100%)" "wifi running (61%). Could it be the wifi on at 100% eating my battery?
same problem here
if data is ON overnight, battery drain is very high, like 20% in a few hours (5-6h).
if data is OFF, battery drain is almost 0 (zero)
in iphone 4 when my data was ON overnight with 3G and PUSH turned ON, battery drain was somelike like 3 or 4%.
Something is terribly wrong.

Help with Battery Life

Hi guys, I'm worried about the battery life of my HTC One.
When the phone is on lock mode, meaning screen is off, within one hour battery can go down from 1-3%. Power saver is on, brightness is auto. And 4G/LTE is on.
Also, I only play around with my settings, checking out GSAM battery monitor, within 15 minutes battery can go down 1-2%.
Now it's been 6 hours 22 minutes since I unplugged from charger, battery level is 74%.
Is it normal?
Thanks.
Gsam should be able to tell you where your battery is being used and what app. Look at what the offending app is (most likely Google maps and Google+ or facebook) and use an app like greenify to hibernate them when not in use.
Sent from my HTC One
Check with betterbatterystats app to see if anything is keeping it awake at
Aetherion90 said:
Hi guys, I'm worried about the battery life of my HTC One.
When the phone is on lock mode, meaning screen is off, within one hour battery can go down from 1-3%. Power saver is on, brightness is auto. And 4G/LTE is on.
Also, I only play around with my settings, checking out GSAM battery monitor, within 15 minutes battery can go down 1-2%.
Now it's been 6 hours 22 minutes since I unplugged from charger, battery level is 74%.
Is it normal?
Thanks.
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You do realize that the phone is still doing stuff when the screen is off, yes? Syncing e-mails/facebook/news stories, communicating the the network, etc. Even if the phone were completely off, lithium-ion batteries will still deplete(albeit very, very slowly) over time. 1-3% loss in an hour is pretty normal in standby. If you're really concerned about it, you can check out an app called BetterBatteryStats and it'll show you what's waking your phone up from sleep and/or preventing it from sleeping to help identify apps whos sync settings are too aggressive.
Your battery has depleted 26% in 6hrs 22minutes... you're losing roughly 4.08% per hour, at that rate it would take you ~24.5hrs to deplete the battery. Battery depletion is, can be, and should be accelerated when you're using the phone, so 1-2% within 15minutes while looking at a battery monitor... yeah. The more stuff you do with your phone, the sooner the battery will run out.
TL;DR: your battery life is fine.
unremarked said:
You do realize that the phone is still doing stuff when the screen is off, yes? Syncing e-mails/facebook/news stories, communicating the the network, etc. Even if the phone were completely off, lithium-ion batteries will still deplete(albeit very, very slowly) over time. 1-3% loss in an hour is pretty normal in standby. If you're really concerned about it, you can check out an app called BetterBatteryStats and it'll show you what's waking your phone up from sleep and/or preventing it from sleeping to help identify apps whos sync settings are too aggressive.
Your battery has depleted 26% in 6hrs 22minutes... you're losing roughly 4.08% per hour, at that rate it would take you ~24.5hrs to deplete the battery. Battery depletion is, can be, and should be accelerated when you're using the phone, so 1-2% within 15minutes while looking at a battery monitor... yeah. The more stuff you do with your phone, the sooner the battery will run out.
TL;DR: your battery life is fine.
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Thanks for the info. However I noticed in some threads that for certain people, their HTC One can last for 1 days 9 hours. For example:
johnbrighton said:
I'm guessing you're a heavy user!
What apps to you have installed? how many apps to you have?
My phone lasted 1 day and 9hrs on one charge with moderate internet use, txt messaging, phone calls - and that was without power saving mode enabled.
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Aetherion90 said:
Thanks for the info. However I noticed in some threads that for certain people, their HTC One can last for 1 days 9 hours. For example:
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It's going to be very difficult for you to replicate the results of someone else(and we are lacking a ton of information from that post--is he running a custom rom, custom kernel, are screen off/on profiles being used, what apps are syncing, how often, how many, etc).
Beyond usage, phones can vary greatly from within the same model based on the manufacturing process/location/materials. For instance, there's a thread in the General Section exploring the differences in various HTC One's screen maximum screen brightness. Even down the chemistry of the batteries themselves. I know from personal experience that one of the biggest impacts on battery life can be how strong of a signal you're receiving from your carrier. If you life/work in a low signal area, the phone will increase power to the antennae to maintain the connection whereas if you're in a good signal area, it doesn't have to work as hard.
Anyone use GSAM Battery Monitor app? Why does the battery usage % doesn't add up to 100% when you add it with the remaining battery % sometime?
Yesterday it's still fine. But today my battery usage % + remaining battery % only add up to 93%.
Aetherion90 said:
Anyone use GSAM Battery Monitor app? Why does the battery usage % doesn't add up to 100% when you add it with the remaining battery % sometime?
Yesterday it's still fine. But today my battery usage % + remaining battery % only add up to 93%.
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Most people use that app. I'm not sure why it isn't working 100%. Did you plug your phone in for a very short amount of time? That might make errors. After you charge it overnight everything should be fine. Try using it for another day.
Sent from my HTC One
In GSAM Battery Monitor, my App Usage is always the highest contributor to battery usage, usually around 85%-90%. Screen is only 10.8%.
When I dig deeper into the App Usage, Kernel (Android OS) 23.8%, and Android System 15.7% are the top 2.
Is it normal?
Do you have Auto Sync turned on?
ArmedandDangerous said:
Do you have Auto Sync turned on?
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If you are referring to Facebook, email, and such, then yes Auto Sync is on. So Auto Sync is included in Kernel or Android System?
Aetherion90 said:
If you are referring to Facebook, email, and such, then yes Auto Sync is on. So Auto Sync is included in Kernel or Android System?
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It's a standard Android feature. Auto Sync drains a ton of battery
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's a standard Android feature. Auto Sync drains a ton of battery
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So for those who can get 5 hours+ screen on time, meaning auto sync is turned off?
Btw, do you know what is AsyncCollectorListener wakelocks that come from Maps? It also contributes to high partial wakelocks percentage most of the time.

15-25% overnight battery drain versus 3-4%

According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Install better battery stats to monitor what's going on. I think the one night I left it off charge over night I lost maybe 6-8% but I slept for like 10+ hours. This is with google now on, gps on, wifi on.
What i'm testing now that I think will actually improve batt life is having wifi turn off when display is off (unless plugged in). I think I noticed less idle drain at home when I did this but it was temporary. Giving it a shot over a few days now.
I leave wifi on and I get less than 5% drain. Nothing syncs when my screen is off except notification weather pro every two hours and Yahoo weather
Sent from my Motorola Ghost
FligMupple said:
According to the Battery thread in this forum, some people experience a high overnight battery drain, and some get a low one.
I am currently a member of the high club. For battery testing, I have most things turned off, like location services and google now. Last night overnight drain (8 hours) took the battery from 76% to 58%... 18%. On my previous phone, the HTC One, the overnight drain would be around 6%.
I am curious about the people who are getting low (~5%) overnight drains. Do they all have Wifi off? What is their secret?! Do tell.
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Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
Sent from my HTC One mini
phositadc said:
Personally I think the X and new droids have idle drain issues. Even when better battery stats shows nearly 100% deep sleep overnight, I still lose 8-10%. In comparison, on my HTC One mini, which is setup EXACTLY the same as my X in terms of installed apps, syncing accounts, running services, etc., I lose only 2-3% overnight. The number of people complaining about the issue seems to confirm it is more widespread than on other recent phones, as do the countless screenshots showing unusually high android OS usage in battery stats.
Sent from my HTC One mini
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I honestly believe it will be patched with the Camera.
I'm having the same issue. People are reporting crazy battery stats with like 20+ hours of use 2+ hours of screen on and like 20% battery left. I get MAYBE 12 hours of use and 2 hours of screen on and 20-25% left. My mediaserver is keeping the phone awake for almost an hour+ each day, and without root I can't figure out how to stop it. I always have GPS/Google Now/Bluetooth off, too.
I thought the drain was related to Wifi. But last night WiFi was turned off for the night and I still got 18% battery drain in about 8 hours.
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
rman18 said:
Wifi at home and overnight. I get about 5% drain... however, the wifi at work kills my phones battery with the wlan wakelock.
Maybe there is something going on with the X and certain wifi networks?
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Interesting theory but my overnight idle drain was approximately the same on both LTE and WiFi. 10-15%.
Sent from my HTC One mini
How about turning off all radios (flight mode) and observe battery drain at night. Then turning wifi while on flight mode the next night and see the battery drain and so on until you can pin point what causes the most drain.
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How to tackle my Z3C battery drain issues?? I'm fed up

I'm fed up a bit for my Z3 C battery life. This is my second query regarding battery life.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
My phone settings-
Always turned off my wifi/ bt/ nfc/ gps/ location tracking/ autoupdates etc. & everything you can think and suggest.
Use only stock custom wallpaper and no live stuff. No widgets. No sd card inserted. With only two hoemscreen wih just 2 shortcuts on each screen.
Have disabled apps which I dont use.
Stopped services of apps which are no longer needed.
No auto sync enabled for any app.
Display brightness is at 30% all times.
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I use only these 3rd party apps-
Status bar mini
Network monitor mini
Whatsapp
Greenify
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My daily Z3 routine-
At night while going to sleep I turn off mobile data, turn on airplane mode and turn on stamina mode. (12:30am - 9:30am)
When I wake up the next day battery is down by 4-5%.
During day, phone runs in normal mode without any stamina activated. (10am - 12:30am)
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The Low-battery mode seems useless as it does literally nothing.
Also, as soon as the battery is 100% charged and if I use phone for even 5 mins the battery immediately drops to 99%, so is this normal??
Even if I capture 5 photos in stock auto mode the battery drops by 1% or 2.
I reboot my phone once a week or in 10 days or when need arises.
Ram utilised is always 1gb. But I dont feel any slowness for any app or my phone usage.
But again I dont watch any movies or play games fearing my battery will deplete in no time.
I use 2G/edge network as 3G isnt available for my operator in the city I reside.
Charging the phone to 100% from 14% takes 3 to 3.5 hours.
I have already repaired my phone using Sony pc companion and also did a factory reset as well but this issue has been haunting me every now and then.
Sony center says the battery doesnt need any replacement as its still healthy and so is my device.
The phones service menu also reports battery status as Good.
I dont know when is Lollipop gonna be out for Z3 but I fear updating to Lollipop as it may pose more issues than doing any good apart from usual gui tweaks & updates.
But just wish that lollipop brings in more relief to Z3 batteries.
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
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EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
Dsteppa said:
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
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Well my device isnt rooted nor I use any wifi.
And also I use Greenify to shutdown all apps before sleeping and also I do manual force stop for many other apps as well.

Anyone else have high Cell Standby?

Anyone have issues with high Cell Standby? My cell standby is at the top of my list with "time on 8h 12m" (pretty much my entire time off the charger) and Time without signal is 0% (so i haven't lost connection plus I've been on Wifi at home the entire time)
Ive also only have about 52 mins of screen on time with light use and I'm down to 79%. The drain seems very high considering how I've used the phone. I just don't understand why the standby is so high or whats causing it. Im stock rooted and have r17 Franco Kernel installed, it seemed to have started when I installed the latest r17 but I'm pretty sure it would be a coincidence since the cell standby was always kinda high on my list but not as bad as lately.
Nocturnal86 said:
Anyone have issues with high Cell Standby? My cell standby is at the top of my list with "time on 8h 12m" (pretty much my entire time off the charger) and Time without signal is 0% (so i haven't lost connection plus I've been on Wifi at home the entire time)
Ive also only have about 52 mins of screen on time with light use and I'm down to 79%. The drain seems very high considering how I've used the phone. I just don't understand why the standby is so high or whats causing it. Im stock rooted and have r17 Franco Kernel installed, it seemed to have started when I installed the latest r17 but I'm pretty sure it would be a coincidence since the cell standby was always kinda high on my list but not as bad as lately.
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If you don't use the phone and keep it away, obviously the cell standby will come first but that much battery should not be drained. I can notice max 2-3% of battery drain from 100% over-night on stock
If you don't charge your phone up all the way to 100%, the battery stats don't reset.
Otherwise I think it's sounds reasonable.
8hr stand by, a little under 1 hr screen, wifi on the whole time.
That's about 9 hours total + wifi for 21% or 676.2 mah used. I usually run with a huge stand by time, not so much SOT. I get about 35%~ a day so I charge up every three days.
If you're on WiFi and cell standby is that high then you probably have a weak voice signal connection. What colour is it on your graph? You can also check your signal level in Settings > About Phone > Status

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