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[q] best autorun task killer

Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works

no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks

try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.

auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz

tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?

so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???

manosv said:
try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense

rocky23 said:
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.

I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.

Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww

webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.

upichie said:
And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
Kind regards,
ww

Disabling Apps in ICS

I found this in the "ICS: What's Different and New" PDF file on the HTC web site:
"You can now disable an app if you no longer want it (but are unable to uninstall it). Disabling an app removes it from All Apps and prevents it from launching. To disable an app, go to Settings > Apps > All and scroll down to the app. You will see the Disable option. Note: If you do not see a Disable option, it means that the app can either be uninstalled or is core functionality and cannot be disabled."
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.

If anything this was a very big plus to me. I don't intend on installing any 3rd party ROMs until after the warranty period and this was a huge issue for me. Seems to work very well.

brucegil said:
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.
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Well there's your problem. You're still using a non-root task killer. That's gonna hurt you more than help. Get rid of it. If you're rooted, use Autokiller Memory Optimizer if you truly run that tight on RAM. Otherwise, let the OS's improved handling of apps and services take care of it.
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brucegil said:
I found this in the "ICS: What's Different and New" PDF file on the HTC web site:
"You can now disable an app if you no longer want it (but are unable to uninstall it). Disabling an app removes it from All Apps and prevents it from launching. To disable an app, go to Settings > Apps > All and scroll down to the app. You will see the Disable option. Note: If you do not see a Disable option, it means that the app can either be uninstalled or is core functionality and cannot be disabled."
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.
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thanks for sharing

YamiYaiba said:
Well there's your problem. You're still using a non-root task killer. That's gonna hurt you more than help. Get rid of it. If you're rooted, use Autokiller Memory Optimizer if you truly run that tight on RAM. Otherwise, let the OS's improved handling of apps and services take care of it.
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Thanks for the feedback. Your last comment may be the best for now. As it turned out, I couldn't find many apps I wanted to stop that had the feature to disable. Most only allowed a force close or uninstall. I don't want to uninstall them. I just don't want them running unless I start them. Actually, I think this is partly a developer issue. Everyone thinks that their software always needs to be running in the background and polling. Not if I use it once a week -- or less.

One very nice feature of the new update is that the Carrier iQ app has been removed.

DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
One very nice feature of the new update is that the Carrier iQ app has been removed.
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Now, let's see if we can get them to listen to us again and return the voice dialer.

Help Choosing Between Multiple Apps Doing the Same Thing

I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
For ad blocking:
AdAway
AdBlock Plus for Android
For my friend who has 1GB internal and 16GB mSD who wants to move as much as possible to her mSD:
FolderMount
Link2SD Plus (The Paid Version)
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
Root App Delete
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
EDIT:
Best Note Taking App for School:
S Note
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Best OCR app that exports to pdf, txt, or anything I can copy/paste from? Apps I am considering:
CamScanner
OCR Instantly
Samsung Optical Reader

I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.

The ext SD card fix goes a long way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733

Titanium backup pro

Cachemate

Android_Monsters said:
I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.
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Android_Monsters said:
Cachemate
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I used to use AdFree since my G1 but I switched to AdAway when the hosts stopped updating. Cachemate I used to use since my G1 also but found Clean Master to be vastly superior.

The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:

I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:

Android_Monsters said:
The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:
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Well if AdFree still updates its hosts I'd seriously consider switching back
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I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:
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I just felt cachemate hasn't been effective enough since the jump to Donut. What's your opinion on CCleaner and SD Maid? I have shared the same sentiments as that screenshot tbh

Just updated adfree:

Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.

That's a good find:

ThR1LL said:
I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
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They might look like apps doing the same thing but actually they are all very different.
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Does remove apps including left overs, but is far from leightweight. There are also some concerns about the app as a whole ( google a bit, build your own opinion). I consider it "scareware".
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
I'm not sure if this actually supports root uninstall? I'm pretty sure though it doesn't clean up after uninstalls.
Root App Delete
Does support root uninstalls, but does not clean up after them AFAIK.
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
Has quite extensive options in terms of app management, but also does not clean up after uninstall AFAIK.
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: This is my app).
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Supports root uninstalls, but not clean up of leftovers, though that's not it's job (it's a backup app).
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
For Adblocking, "AdAway" does seems to work better. Sadly the dev has not a lot of spare time to keep it updated, but it's opensource and there is a nice community around it keeping working. Neither one is really bad though.
FolderMount and Link2SD are two different concepts (links vs mounts). Read up on both. I think Link2SD does not work in all scenarios.
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.

Android_Monsters said:
Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.
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Is it this CacheMate you're talking about? It's the one I'm referring too. Just wanting to make sure because you've convinced me lol
Dark3n;58350534SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063" said:
This is my app[/URL]).
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.
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Well sir I applaud you on an absolutely thorough and well coded app! I have had it installed on my Android devices for the past 3 years and I must say I never knew it was this powerful! The GUI is really awesome now too so definitely hats off for that. I'm pretty much convinced what to go with!
As far as FolderMount and Link2SD I've read things regarding those apps with my friend's phone specifically and apparently Link2SD has broken a mSD here and there so I'll play with FolderMount on her phone. Thanks!

Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
Dark3n said:
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
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I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.

ThR1LL said:
Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Can't really say, there is too much influencing everything, including peoples own psychology. Troubleshooting would start with making it reproduceable, then see what tool specifically causes and then check logcats.

ThR1LL said:
Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
SD Maid Pro and Clean Master are actually my two favorite maintenance utilities. Clean Master in particular has stepped up its game huge time as of late, packing a plethora of super useful functions into it. Among the best is it's auto-start manager (only works for root users). Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
Anyway, back to your question, when your friend complained of the slowdown, was it generally very soon after running a cleaner? I'd recommend that she reinstall at least CM, then after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.

jazzmachine said:
Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache. Also I've noticed SD Maid finds things Clean Master doesn't but also vice versa.
Out of the topic of cleaners anyone wanna share their $0.02 on my edited OP of best organized note taking app for school and best OCR app that exports to a copy/paste-able file like pdf or txt?

jazzmachine said:
Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
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I'm pretty sure Avast also checks sideloaded apps. Why would you rather have false positive results than just being notified when there is actually something?
I'd also like to point out over new year CM considered SD Maids Unlocker to be "malicious" and a "virus" that can "slow down the device" or "cause freezes". While the "false positive" may have been an overzealous database match, the information about it "slowing down the device" or "freezing it" is just pure bull**** that only serves the purpose of making it sound worse, and subsequently giving you the user the feeling of everything running smoother. Don't be manipulated by psychological cues.
CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
jazzmachine said:
after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.
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Apps regenerate their cache only on demand, as not all apps are running all the time, most apps will not regenerate caches just by waiting. In some cases the app has to be actually opened, in other cases apps that act on intents, may start and generate caches seemingly random.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache.
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You can exclude specific caches if it's always causing issues, if you are rooted you can also restrict cache cleaning to files that are older than X days.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.

Dark3n said:
CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.
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I recently reinstalled Clean Master to test something out and that is how I found out both apps clean things the other doesn't. For example I used the App Control tab on SD Maid to uninstall a couple apps. After running Clean Master it would pick up empty folders left behind from the uninstall that SD Maid didn't pick up in the System and Tombstones scan.
On a side note. Anyone recommend a sweet OCR app that exports to a searchable and copy/paste-able format?

[Q] Ram issues, often less than 256 MB free

The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.

Icon000 said:
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE? have you tried doing a hard reset? from stock recovery? your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.

whizinc said:
have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE?
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I was hoping to use this as a last resort
whizinc said:
have you tried doing a hard reset?
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When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
whizinc said:
your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.
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If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.

Icon000 said:
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that

adity said:
You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that
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What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm

Icon000 said:
What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm
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Apps like chrome consistently use 100mb..
Otherwise 50mb
Also post screenshots man

Icon000 said:
I was hoping to use this as a last resort
When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.
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Take that last hope..Rsd lite your stock firmware and all your problems will be vanished.. Im sure..
A hard reset is a reset which you do thorough the Bootloader of your phone without booting to actual android home screen... Like you open your Boot loader by pressing appropriate keys and select recovery and Erase Cache and Factory reset from there... Google Hard reset and learn about it. Its really important to learn about hard reset if you own an android device..
As far as your launcher is concerned i can understand... And i dont really think that the launcher might be causing the problem... You just need an RSD LITE flash to completely wipe your phone and bring it to the factory state and make it completely fresh... I bet rsd lite flash will fix your problem because it erases the whole device and reflashes everything like boot,modem,system,kernal etc... GO FOR RSD LITE FLASH... and please take extra precautions before Flashing through RSD LITE.. because its risky if you do it in the wrong way.... Make sure to find the exact firmware of your phone which matches the carrier.. and also check the bootloader version of the firmware.. DOWNGRADING THE FIRMWARE WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE PERMANENTLY.. so always upgrade or flash the same firmware as you have now.. Take extra precautions.. Good luck..
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It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM. The system will put stuff into memory as needed, and remove it as needed. The system tries to keep as much stuff in memory as possible to improve performance so it doesn't have to put it back into memory if you launch it again. It is how the Android memory killer works, and the kernel is what controls the free memory.

imnuts said:
It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.

Icon000 said:
if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.
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If that is the case, then your device is likely not freeing memory properly. Either an app is not closing properly, or you have a lot of background apps running that can't be freed from memory, or you have a rogue app killing your phone.

As he said, "free memory" will always be very low.
This is part of why people freaked out over vista... As modern kernels do, it was using most available ram for tasks that might happen because this memory can be cleared instantly. But vista actually reported this memory usage, and people freaked out, not being used to the concept. I believe they adjusted how memory was reported in 7...
Give this a read
http://serverfault.com/questions/85470/meaning-of-the-buffers-cache-line-in-the-output-of-free
If you have a terminal emulator the command "top" will show you memory usage by category so you can see not only how much is free, but how much COULD be free at a moments notice if needed. This is what you want to know.
"atop" is another version of top, it reports slightly different statistics and can be a little more readable...(it may be htop not atop, if one doesnt work try the other. They both exist but only one is prepackaged and... I forget.)
You should also be able to look at processes to see what is using up significant amounts of memory....

My stock N6 32GB becomes laggy after about 2 days use and requires rebooting

I have this strange problem with my N6 in that after about 2 days use it becomes quite laggy and unusable requiring a restart. When this happens the camera becomes unusable as with HRD+ off, taking a picture from pressing the shutter button to an image being captured can take several seconds. This isn't really acceptable.
And every now and then I clear the cache also which helps but seems a bit drastic.
Can anybody think what might be causing this? It's quite annoying as you might expect and didn't appear to be like that when I first bought the phone.
I don't run anything fancy and use a standard wallpaper (no active ones) and very few if any background tasks apart from the usual Google ones.
Maybe when (and if) Nougat comes out for it, it might improve but it seems strange that a phone would do that.
Thanks

lchiu7 said:
I have this strange problem with my N6 in that after about 2 days use it becomes quite laggy and unusable ......
Can anybody think what might be causing this?
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An app or Google play services.
Try Advanced Task killer and uninstall the Google services updates.

Flash a custom ROM and use a good Kernel... Problem solved.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers mobile app

If your phone doesn't run hot without reason, you should backup your important internal stuff to PC or USB and flash a clean factory image to wipe the phone totally.
First i would try shayneflashindaily's advice.

Thanks. I installed Advanced Task Killer and killed a few tasks that I didn't know were running and that seemed to help. Not clear to me how to uninstall Google Drives l Services Update.
It does run hot sometimes for no apparent reason but while I'm happy to do factory reset I'm not sure I want to flash a custom ROM or kernel.
Doesn't a different kernel require root? The bootloader is unlocked but I never was able to gain root and given I use credit card payment over NFC I think root would break that.

I had the same problem and i've opened the very same thread.
No matter what advice i followed or what app i used to fix the problem, neither truly fixed it 100%. You will experience the same problem after a bit, along with low battery and general hotness of the phone.
Only one cure to it: decrypt your phone. It's the only way and that fixed 100% my problems. So you need a force encrypt disabled rom such pure nexus and Fed Patcher. That means you need to install also TWRP.
The main culprit is the forced encryption.

lchiu7 said:
Not clear to me how to uninstall Google Drives l Services Update.
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Settings - Apps - select Drive and uninstall.
Do this with all apps you don't use.
I use credit card payment over NFC I think root would break that.
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Root will break NFC paying, but some managed to unroot add card number and root again.
Decryption will speed up a bit the performance, but you need root access.
A prerooted stock rom of Danvd is a good choice, but take care with rooting as long as you need apps that refuse to work with rooted phones.

NLBeev said:
Settings - Apps - select Drive and uninstall.
Do this with all apps you don't use.
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The poster said remove Google Play Services. That's what I am not sure about how to uninstall. On my phone the options Disable and Force Stop are both greyed out.
NLBeev said:
Root will break NFC paying, but some managed to unroot add card number and root again.
Decryption will speed up a bit the performance, but you need root access.
A prerooted stock rom of Danvd is a good choice, but take care with rooting as long as you need apps that refuse to work with rooted phones.
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That seems like a bridge too far for me. The only reason I considered rooting the N6 before was to enable the notification light which apparently does exist on the N6 but requires Root for LIghtflow to use it. I decided the alternative of the Amoled notifications was good enough and provided more information

lchiu7 said:
The poster said remove Google Play Services. That's what I am not sure about how to uninstall. On my phone the options Disable and Force Stop are both greyed out.
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You have to check out the Android device manager in Settings - security - device administrators.
For more info - follow the link.
https://www.androidpit.com/google-play-services-what-is-it-and-what-is-it-for

The link doesn't work but I can't see anything about who is a device administrator - just a few services like Gmail, Android Pay and Android Device Manager

lchiu7 said:
The link doesn't work but I can't see anything about who is a device administrator - just a few services like Gmail, Android Pay and Android Device Manager
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Try the link again; the last slash is removed. It should work now.
Device admin... Uncheck Android device manager.

I disabled Android Device Manager but still cannot disable Google Play Services as it's greyed out.
Might leave it as I do need Google Play Services

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