Now that Verizon is rolling out band 2 and 4 LTE, I thought I'd try an experiment. Some background: I have a Nexus 7 LTE (2013) with Verizon data-only SIM, and an LG G4 H811 on T-Mobile. The H811 is SIM/network unlocked. I attempted putting the Verizon SIM in the T-Mobile phone. Full signal with Verizon SIM, but no "4G LTE" indicator. Attempted entering Verizon APN settings, but they would not save. (Is this device specific, or is the SIM card rejecting the APN settings?) Tried simply entering Name "Verizon" and APN "vzwinternet" but omitted MNC and MCC settings, and now "4G LTE" indicator DOES show, but no internet connection. Under About Phone/Network I am connected to Verizon on my H811 and Mobile network type is "LTE" but still not actually connected. Any suggestions for entering the Verizon APN info on a T-Mobile device and making it stick? I'm a paying customer on both networks, so please no indignant comments about "why don't you just ditch T-Mobile and/or Verizon?" This is just to satisfy my curiosity.
FYI, the Nexus 7 LTE (2013) does not have CDMA radios, so I don't care that the H811 also does not. Shouldn't the SIM work for the LTE bands that the H811 does have? Doesn't Verizon have some deal-with-the-devil arrangement with the FCC regarding their LTE that they have to allow any device on their network?
djjefferson said:
Now that Verizon is rolling out band 2 and 4 LTE, I thought I'd try an experiment. Some background: I have a Nexus 7 LTE (2013) with Verizon data-only SIM, and an LG G4 H811 on T-Mobile. The H811 is SIM/network unlocked. I attempted putting the Verizon SIM in the T-Mobile phone. Full signal with Verizon SIM, but no "4G LTE" indicator. Attempted entering Verizon APN settings, but they would not save. (Is this device specific, or is the SIM card rejecting the APN settings?) Tried simply entering Name "Verizon" and APN "vzwinternet" but omitted MNC and MCC settings, and now "4G LTE" indicator DOES show, but no internet connection. Under About Phone/Network I am connected to Verizon on my H811 and Mobile network type is "LTE" but still not actually connected. Any suggestions for entering the Verizon APN info on a T-Mobile device and making it stick? I'm a paying customer on both networks, so please no indignant comments about "why don't you just ditch T-Mobile and/or Verizon?" This is just to satisfy my curiosity.
FYI, the Nexus 7 LTE (2013) does not have CDMA radios, so I don't care that the H811 also does not. Shouldn't the SIM work for the LTE bands that the H811 does have? Doesn't Verizon have some deal-with-the-devil arrangement with the FCC regarding their LTE that they have to allow any device on their network?
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Is your H811 rooted? if so you may want to try injecting the APN into the apns-config.xml file located system/etc
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Is your H811 rooted? if so you may want to try injecting the APN into the apns-config.xml file located system/etc
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Not rooted. Just found out how easy it is with unlocked bootloader. This might my next weekend project. Might also try unlocking band 13. I don't suppose anybody's tried that with the H811 yet?
You could open dialer. Type 277634#*# then touch unlock apn. Then you can get the g4 an changes stick
Small issues for you:
1 - You might have data on 2 & 4 (eventually), but you won't have CDMA connectivity and you won't have VoLTE, so you'll never be able to actually make calls.
2 - Verizon has a device whitelist (and blacklist) in place, so they actually need to ALLOW your device on the network, vs. a traditional GSM based telecom who simply implements a blacklist. The reason you aren't able to connect to anything even though it shows as connected, is because they haven't allowed you on their network. Here's the ****ty (****tier) part: Unless you have a Nexus 6, iPhone or a verizon BRANDED phone, you won't be allowed on. They've been very clear about this for about a decade now, and they're not changing anytime soon.
Small edit: The APNs allow you to connect to the network in the first place, so the APN isn't the issue here. The whitelist is.
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Hello,
I have the Droid 3 with Verizon, unlocked, with verizon vodafone sim activated. I am currently in Canada, and am wondering why it will not connect to GSM/HSDPA towers.
If I go into the wireless and networks -> mobile networks -> Operator selection the phone will show me Rogers 2G, Rogers 3G, Bell, and Telus networks.
I also get this error for all three in the drop down menu, the name just changes:
No service
Selected network (CAN Rogers wireless inc. 3g) unavailable.
I have all the APN's entered for all three of those carriers, and can select them with an application named APN Manager, however none of those APN's show up in my wireless and networks -> mobile networks -> access point names. Both the vodafone APN's are unselected though.
I am looking to get on this GSM/HSDPA network, as when I am out in the country there is only 1x dial up internet on CDMA, and HSDPA available in the country.
If anyone can help me out, let me know!
Thanks much, in advance!
I have posted this exact same question at Howardforums. Here is the link to that thread:
/showthread.php/1736801-Q-Droid-3-GSM-Roaming
You will have to first go to howardforums website, then add the above part
Forgot to mention: I tried a Rogers and a Telus sim card and they both got calling service.
Not sure if Verizon has roaming agreement with any of the Canadian GSM networks. You can roam using CDMA here without any problem. I believe Telus is backing up Verizon here when it comes to CDMA.
If you want to use GSM you can put a SIM from any of the operators here (except AWS ones) and you will be fine since you have unlocked phone. Cheaper to use too, of course if using local SIM is an option for you. If you will be using local SIM you will need to define APNs or you won't get data connection. Head over Google for the settings for each of the operators here (Canada)
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leobg said:
Not sure if Verizon has roaming agreement with any of the Canadian GSM networks. You can roam using CDMA here without any problem. I believe Telus is backing up Verizon here when it comes to CDMA.
If you want to use GSM you can put a SIM from any of the operators here (except AWS ones) and you will be fine since you have unlocked phone. Cheaper to use too, of course if using local SIM is an option for you. If you will be using local SIM you will need to define APNs or you won't get data connection. Head over Google for the settings for each of the operators here (Canada)
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Thanks Leobg. I believe you are right that there is no roaming agreement for GSM, which makes sense. Verizon lady told me otherwise
This phone is going back though, as I was looking for some HSPA while in the country.
I was using Droid3 and Droid4 with Mexican SIMS, IUSACEL and TELCEL without problem. Now Im at Canada and Rogers SIM doesnt work on both phnes. I guess they are locked, can you describe me how to unlock where i do purchase unlocking codes?
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If you are on a contract with Verizon, you can ask them for unlock code,
Insert a sim card which it ain't accepting, enter the unlock code and its done.
Don't forget --- Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode -> GSM/UMTS
But I believe once unlocked, Verizon doesn't work on it.
It sounds like the SIM. Or try switching to CDMA. I think the Canadian carriers still have CDMA on their towers (used to a few years ago) and maybe that's the roaming the lady means.
I have activated my sprint moto x into another cdma carrier,but I can't get the apn to work,do I need the sprint nanosim to get edvo (2g,3g) working too? or is only necessary to lte?
I have an XT1049 from Republic Wireless which uses the Sprint network for calls and data when I am not using WiFi (but the label on the back plate says it's an XT1056.) RW support tells us that the nano SIM is only for LTE access. I had full EvDO access when I removed the SIM from my phone which tends to confirm that.
So I would focus on getting the APN descriptions from the other carrier copied to your phone.
HTH
Hello All,
I have been thinking about traveling to Japan this coming year; I have looked at Verizon's International plan, and it seems like they are very pricey.
I have heard that the VS980 has GSM support, with no LTE, which is fine. I have looked into the h20 network, as they have exceptional prices for their international plan.
I have googled it and have gotten mixed answers, so I came here. I have a h20 sim card, and it pulls the APNs, but does not get any service. Is it that I am using a custom rom?
Thanks for the help in advance! :laugh:
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Please someone answer this. I'm in a similar boat.
I'm on the stock verizon ROM. I have a Piranha mobile sim card. I am testing the setup in the US to verify it works. It connects to the T-mobile/Piranha voice and sms network, but data is not working.
Their setup instructions call for setting the apn to openroamer.com, but no mention on the mnc or the mcc values. If I just set the apn to openroamer.com I'm able to save and select it, but as soon as I change the mnc or mcc values to t-mobile the apn disappears after I save. Do I need to set the mnc and mcc values to something specific? I tried to track down exactly what they do, with no luck.
I see mention in another thread that Verizon locks the phones to be unable to connect to other US domestic networks. They also mention that once I'm overseas I'll be fine. I'm skeptical.
I was thinking of going to the t-mobile store to see if I could borrow a sim card to confirm it's a firmware issue. I would rather not root at this point. Any other courses of action?
Thanks for shedding any light.
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Please someone answer this. I'm in a similar boat.
I'm on the stock verizon ROM. I have a Piranha mobile sim card. I am testing the setup in the US to verify it works. It connects to the T-mobile/Piranha voice and sms network, but data is not working.
Their setup instructions call for setting the apn to openroamer.com, but no mention on the mnc or the mcc values. If I just set the apn to openroamer.com I'm able to save and select it, but as soon as I change the mnc or mcc values to t-mobile the apn disappears after I save. Do I need to set the mnc and mcc values to something specific? I tried to track down exactly what they do, with no luck.
I see mention in another thread that Verizon locks the phones to be unable to connect to other US domestic networks. They also mention that once I'm overseas I'll be fine. I'm skeptical.
I was thinking of going to the t-mobile store to see if I could borrow a sim card to confirm it's a firmware issue. I would rather not root at this point. Any other courses of action?
Thanks for shedding any light.
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It turns out to be a activation error for me, after I correctly activated the sim, it worked! (silly me!)
For your problem, I looked on your carriers website/ help websites and there are no values except the APN.
You might need a data plan active. I would try using other carriers, because for me the h20 sim worked with data.
Verizon has no control over what network you go on either, FCC has a couple laws that prevent from Verizon doing that except exclude the hardware needed to connect to other networks.
Sorry I could not help.
I popped my Aio Wireless (AT&T) SIM from my Nexus 4 into my G2 and after a little APN tweaking I had HSPA+ working with no issues. It is my understanding if you have AT&T Band 4 LTE (limited markets) and the correct service providor, it will even connect 4G/LTE on AT&T networks. I swapped my Verizon SIM back in and removed the APN's and all was well on Verizon again. I am stock (KitKat) and rooted with only a few few Xposed modules installed, no custom ROM.
It sounds like, from reading the posts above, the Verizon LG-G2 IS a World Phone and should function straight on from stock on a UK provider like Three just by purchasing a sim and plugging it in then configuring the APN settings !
The problem is that when my Susan went just this morning to a Three store in London, the guy there told her that her Verizon LG-G2 was LOCKED to Verizon network only, and that she would have to do something like obtain an unlock code because the phone would not work on any other provider until she did that.
Verizon's International folks told us earlier that the phone would work fine, given GSM frequency issue restrictions, overseas and there was no need for any UnLock proceedure or code.
Does she just need to find a competent tech at a different Three store ?
Or is she going to be unable to play Ingress the whole two weeks she is over there in England and Scotland ?
Update...both Three and Vodaphone folks in London have now told her that the Verizon LG-G2 is carrier locked and cannot be used without Verizon unlocking it on any other network. So, Verizon was wrong and she is limited to WiFi only for the next two weeks ?
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Update...both Three and Vodaphone folks in London have now told her that the Verizon LG-G2 is carrier locked and cannot be used without Verizon unlocking it on any other network. So, Verizon was wrong and she is limited to WiFi only for the next two weeks ?
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No global mode Verizon phones are carrier locked.
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It is very odd. We tried it on a T-Mobile sim over here before she left, I am pretty sure, and it just worked. Still, over in London Three & Vodaphone say it is locked and useless on their networks and their sims don't work.
Maybe it is subsidy-locked ?
Maybe they just didn't set the APN and data settings right at the stores ?
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which one to use at any particular time?
Just voice on Verizon - no SIM.
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which one to use at any particular time?
Just voice on Verizon - no SIM.
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Looks like there are 100 other people who are just like me - don't know.
It looks like this would be possible with just a switch of APN's and checking a choice under "networks" or possibly it would auto choose the APN based on networks choice. But in practical application would it work?
I know i have switched b/w AT&T, T-Mobile, and VZW and it would recognize the network. Only network that wouldn't work for me was Sprint.
Verizon LTE phones require a Verizon SIM to work with both its CDMA network and its LTE network. If a Verizon SIM is not present in one of these devices, it won't work with either Verizon's CDMA network or its LTE network.
dualityim said:
Verizon LTE phones require a Verizon SIM to work with both its CDMA network and its LTE network. If a Verizon SIM is not present in one of these devices, it won't work with either Verizon's CDMA network or its LTE network.
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Yes, my question though is, for voice only on Verizon - without SIM just CDMA activation - Can a person have both and switch easily between them by activating the 3g data - voice via phone identification no SIM required with Verizon (pageplus) and a SIM for at&t (straighttalk or redpocket).
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Yes, my question though is, for voice only on Verizon - without SIM just CDMA activation - Can a person have both and switch easily between them by activating the 3g data - voice via phone identification no SIM required with Verizon (pageplus) and a SIM for at&t (straighttalk or redpocket).
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Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about using a CDMA MVNO on Verizon. I know that if you are just using Verizon, CDMA activation without SIM won't work because Verizon is using the SIM to authenticate to its CDMA network on LTE-enabled phones. But for Page Plus, you may be able to manually program the CDMA activation without using a SIM? Have you manually programmed CDMA phones to work on Page Plus in the past, and if so, how does it work?
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Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about using a CDMA MVNO on Verizon. I know that if you are just using Verizon, CDMA activation without SIM won't work because Verizon is using the SIM to authenticate to its CDMA network on LTE-enabled phones. But for Page Plus, you may be able to manually program the CDMA activation without using a SIM? Have you manually programmed CDMA phones to work on Page Plus in the past, and if so, how does it work?
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Yes, I have a Moto-G activated on pageplus. I called them up, gave the ph ID then called a Verizon activation number. Worked well.
My problem is I am on the edge where Verizon works a bit better (have to walk outside and find a reception area) at my home with AT&T not picking up except occasionally. If I had the cheap pageplus plan for Verizon (not LTE) and Redpocket or straighttalk activated on AT&T it would give me a bit of flexibility if I could do it on one phone.
I just don't know if it will work. Perhaps the Nexus 6 being a LTE device won't activate on pageplus as a 3g device.
I may just activate an AT&T MVNO SIM on data and just use hangouts and hangouts dialer. Use wi-fi at home and data SIM when about. Redpocket has a T-mobile 1 GB plan for $10/month; haven't yet tried Tmobile reception. I live in a cellular black hole.
I seem to cant get any LTE connection on my at&t moto x.ive downloaded the phone testing app and i cant change it to LTE/GSM or any LTE connection for that matter it stays on GSM auto. Any help or ideas please? As of right now im only getting hspa/hspa+ connection
Google your carriers APN settings and see if yours match.
Other than that, it can only be a Sim card issue or carrier issue. Assuming you mean an AT&T model phone on at&t's network.
Or is it on another network? If so.... You may not have the bands supported on the phone that your carrier uses. Nothing you can do about that if so.