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HELLO ...i am new to the Android world but an expert in the windows world...... i do also love linux
i have a Droid 3 XT862 running Android 2.3 and i want to experience the freedom of rooting my D3
i had hoped my first Android phone would be high spec running the latest OS (or almost) but i am not ready to risk using a touch-screen only phone because i hav had some bad experiences with touchscreen keyboards....thats pretty much why i got the D3 instead of the RAZR or the DROID BIONIC
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how difficult is it to revert back to my original Android 2.3 OS if i find it difficult to use a custom ROMS?? i really want to use my camera so a chance to revert bak to my original V2.3 wud be nice
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is the phones ability to install apps affected in any way by upgrading the Android version ( FOTA) or rooting?? for example..... i am going to test run my V2.3 os for a while and install many apps, will these same apps be able to install on the custom ROMS?? ...... wat are some of the advantages or disadvantages for installing apps on stock V2.3 and then try to install the same apps on any of the below custom roms:
OFFICIAL CyanogenMod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2): [NIGHTLIES]
[ROM][JB] [4.2.2] Avatar ROM for Motorola Droid 3 (solana)
[ROM][4.2.2][OFFICIAL] LiquidSmooth v2.1 - solana -
[ROM] Official PACman Droid 3
[ICS AOSP ROM] "AOKP" (Android Open KANG Project)
[ROM STEEL DROID]
[Closed]RemICS-UX v1.3.1 - Galaxy S3 on Your Droid 3
.....ETC
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BBM Messenger will be available for phones running Android 4.0 or higher this summer, I am interested in trying it out and i want to know if these custom ROMS will allow me to install it without much difficulty......
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I am assuming that once i root my phone and install a custom ROM using safe strap or a similar tool, this is the same as dual booting, in which i can switch between stock os and custom ROMS at will.......am i right ??
QUES #5:
How may Custom ROMS am i able to install while making sure my phone is stable ??
THANKS MUCH !!!!!.....
Tha slayer said:
HELLO ...i am new to the Android world but an expert in the windows world...... i do also love linux
i have a Droid 3 XT862 running Android 2.3 and i want to experience the freedom of rooting my D3
i had hoped my first Android phone would be high spec running the latest OS (or almost) but i am not ready to risk using a touch-screen only phone because i hav had some bad experiences with touchscreen keyboards....thats pretty much why i got the D3 instead of the RAZR or the DROID BIONIC
QUES #1:
how difficult is it to revert back to my original Android 2.3 OS if i find it difficult to use a custom ROMS?? i really want to use my camera so a chance to revert bak to my original V2.3 wud be nice
QUES #2:
is the phones ability to install apps affected in any way by upgrading the Android version ( FOTA) or rooting?? for example..... i am going to test run my V2.3 os for a while and install many apps, will these same apps be able to install on the custom ROMS?? ...... wat are some of the advantages or disadvantages for installing apps on stock V2.3 and then try to install the same apps on any of the below custom roms:
OFFICIAL CyanogenMod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2): [NIGHTLIES]
[ROM][JB] [4.2.2] Avatar ROM for Motorola Droid 3 (solana)
[ROM][4.2.2][OFFICIAL] LiquidSmooth v2.1 - solana -
[ROM] Official PACman Droid 3
[ICS AOSP ROM] "AOKP" (Android Open KANG Project)
[ROM STEEL DROID]
[Closed]RemICS-UX v1.3.1 - Galaxy S3 on Your Droid 3
.....ETC
QUES#3 :
BBM Messenger will be available for phones running Android 4.0 or higher this summer, I am interested in trying it out and i want to know if these custom ROMS will allow me to install it without much difficulty......
QUES#4:
I am assuming that once i root my phone and install a custom ROM using safe strap or a similar tool, this is the same as dual booting, in which i can switch between stock os and custom ROMS at will.......am i right ??
QUES #5:
How may Custom ROMS am i able to install while making sure my phone is stable ??
THANKS MUCH !!!!!.....
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Reverting to stock is as simple as plugging the phone into your computer and flashing stock firmware with a utility. Custom roms and rooting shouldn't affect app installation, with the caveat of some video rental apps won't work on rooted devices(piracy prevention). BBM should install on any custom rom ics and up, but until it's released we won't know for sure. All that being said, sometimes a particular app may have issues with custom roms but it's the exception, not the rule. Yes you can switch roms similar to a dual boot, although data from one rom isn't visible to another, like app data, text messages, call log. Sdcard contents are though. Safestrap creates img files for custom rom slots, you can have up to 4(in addition to stock) I believe, although I no longer use safestrap so I'm not totally sure. The more you have the less Sdcard space available and the custom roms can be pretty buggy sometimes. Personally I just flash over the stock rom since its so easy to return to stock if needed. I also only run gb roms since I need the camera
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Endoroid said:
Reverting to stock is as simple as plugging the phone into your computer and flashing stock firmware with a utility. Custom roms and rooting shouldn't affect app installation, with the caveat of some video rental apps won't work on rooted devices(piracy prevention). BBM should install on any custom rom ics and up, but until it's released we won't know for sure. All that being said, sometimes a particular app may have issues with custom roms but it's the exception, not the rule. Yes you can switch roms similar to a dual boot, although data from one rom isn't visible to another, like app data, text messages, call log. Sdcard contents are though. Safestrap creates img files for custom rom slots, you can have up to 4(in addition to stock) I believe, although I no longer use safestrap so I'm not totally sure. The more you have the less Sdcard space available and the custom roms can be pretty buggy sometimes. Personally I just flash over the stock rom since its so easy to return to stock if needed. I also only run gb roms since I need the camera
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Cant thank you enough bro.... just glad that i can run ICS apps on the custom roms and revert back to Stock when i need it ..... and i think it will be a good idea for me to install a GB ROM as well .......
you said "The more you have the less Sdcard space available"......... does that mean these custom roms are supposed to STAY on the SD-card ??
i thought after u installed the custom roms, you could do watever you want to the SD card
Hi,
I have 2 year old Razr-M on Verizon. It's been a faithful phone for a long time.
Ages ago, I rooted the phone, installed Clockwork, and Cyanogen. Not thrilled with Cyanogen's performance, I switched to OSE back in November.
At some point in my experimenting, I flashed a new radio to the phone, but don't remember which.
The phone has been reasonably stable, but still hangs/crashes once or twice a week.
Now, I'd like to clean things up.
Get the best radio that allows for international bands, GSM and, GPS
Install a STABLE ROM
Update/Install latest most stable bootloader
With so many packages and options here, I don't really know where to start. (OSE, Pacman, ???)
Can anyone suggest a clear, stable setup for both radio and ROM?
(Note: I travel internationally *A Lot*, so need to make sure all the different bands stay enabled.)
Thanks!!
Should add that I don't care about pretty graphics or extra features. Just want solid, stable, functional.
Well the most stable is going to be stock/stock based roms. Maybe try out rage m on the jb bootloader or root stock kk and start removing bloat
Tapatalk'n it from my XT907 (MoKee 4.4.4) on Page Plus Cellular.
Cool,
And what about the radio? Any suggestions?
I don't think there's much options for radio. Ics/jb radios work on JB bootloader roms kk bootloader roms are limited to only the kk radio
Tapatalk'n it from my XT907 (MoKee 4.4.4) on Page Plus Cellular.
Is there a bare bones ROM available for 4.4.4? I recall some being available for previous devices and those seem to have to have the best performance and most popular. Basically just the stock ROM debloated and flashable via TWRP. And if so, would this have working touchless control/active display?
thanks!
The reason it probably isn't there is that most people just root and delete the 10-20 apks manually. Takes pretty much the same amount of time for the same end result.
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Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
thanks for the feedback y'all, looks like I've got some reading/research to do.
IMNUTS - agreed, but from my experience, I think it's best to start with a clean slate rather than trying to debloat various apps - as those could have left other files on the system that could hinder performance.
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Went with krypton. Will report later this week.
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Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
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TheBoiledDogs said:
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
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cxwong1 said:
Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
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Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine.
But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2.
Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
Thanks!
Darth said:
Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine. But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2. Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
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hey guys just bought this m7 device now i need your help to choce the right rom for me. im looking for performences over futers, stock on the lates android ( 6 i think )
What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
fireball0093 said:
What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
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european
Burllz said:
european
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Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
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Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
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ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
Burllz said:
ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
Burllz said:
seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
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Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
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Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
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okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
Burllz said:
okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
Burllz said:
its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
Burllz said:
okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
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I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
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I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
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okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
Burllz said:
okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
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Yeah, that happens sometimes with mine. Not all the time though, mainly when I'm streaming music in Spotify or Pandora, or if I've been on it for 10-15 minutes on Twitter, email, etc. Sometimes when installing a rom and first booting it, it gets upwards of 50C but cools down after I let it sit for a little while. Also, just throwing it out there because I love the app, if you have $7 you're willing to spend MyBackup Pro is fantastic for backing up everything if you change the rom you use the most. Like data, apps with the app data (not every app backs up the data though) and just like everything else. There's also a free one if you don't care about app data which I'd actually recommend trying that out first. Spares a hell of a lot of time for downloading apps every time. I promise I am no way affiliated with them, like I really feel bad "advertising" them even though I'm not. It's just my favorite backup app xD. Titanium backup is another good one but I haven't used it's backup stuff. Mods you can feel free to edit this if you don't see it fit.
Hi everyone
I had a Verizon XT1060 DE that was rooted and unlocked on KitKat. The flashlight/camera flash came loose and it had to be RMA'd over a year ago. Not long after, I got a sweet deal on a LG G4 and the new Moto X (still bootloader locked) sat in a drawer. The LG G4 softbricked during a Verizon OTA update last week and they've sent me a new one (now in the same drawer), and in the meantime I picked up the 2013 Moto X.
This morning I unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp 2.8.6.0-ghost, and rooted with SuperSU. I'm excited to have the Moto X back as my main phone (I missed it, for sure) and I'd love to debloat all the verizon crap.
Can anyone recommend to me a good method for debloating? I'm sure I did it on my old Kitkat Moto X, but it's been years and I can't remember and surely there's some good updated info.
If this has been discussed previously, please just post a link if need be.
Thanks again everyone. Glad to be back using XDA again
Also, if anyone wants to chime in with a recommended ROM that will accomplish the same for me. I've never installed a custom ROM but I wouldn't mind trying.
I like AOSP, but I'd try a CM rom or anything really. My requirement is a debloat ROM that everything works. I need this phone for everyday use, so I need to make calls, take photos, use the flashlight, etc. If there's bugs that have a known fix, that works for me, but I can't run a ROM with decreased functionality.
Please post a link if you have a suggestion.
Thanks again everyone.
I've been using Resurrection Remix for a few weeks now and it works great as my daily driver (I have a XT1060 DE as well). The ROM is fast and everything works, as far as I can tell. Look at the Moto X XDA homepage for the page and details, or try this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-ghost-resurrection-remix-5-6-8-t3371948
Good luck!
-Troy
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Also, if anyone wants to chime in with a recommended ROM that will accomplish the same for me. I've never installed a custom ROM but I wouldn't mind trying.
I like AOSP, but I'd try a CM rom or anything really. My requirement is a debloat ROM that everything works. I need this phone for everyday use, so I need to make calls, take photos, use the flashlight, etc. If there's bugs that have a known fix, that works for me, but I can't run a ROM with decreased functionality.
Please post a link if you have a suggestion.
Thanks again everyone.
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I've only tested Resurrection Remix becuase its the rom with lot of feature from other rom too and its stable for everyday use and I write from my Moto X (XT1052).
For everyday use I suggest to avoid (as now) all 7.x roms because usually have broken microphone and/or camera (only video or photo too) with can be important for many people, so i advice you to stay with 6.0.1 roms right now