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IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.
mmafighter077 said:
IM helping my friend build a computer... I built one in a few years and I planning on getting this build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.328587
But its saying I need a discrete graphics card... Can some explain exactly what that is? Does that just mean it needs to be small?
Can some help me choose a good one for around $150? From new egg or zipzoomfly or another trusted known website with a good return policy.
Im looking for something that with play blu-rays and some gaming like gta 4.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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You are right it means something low profile without huge fans, thats where you will have the issue when it comes to the line between good quality in games and a card that will fit!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-144-_-Product
thats the profile i would assume it means instad of the cards that take up to slots on size.. and have leaf blowers...
edit: also that card will decode the video on the gpu instead of straining the cpu...games should run ok at medium resolutions.. posted the wrong card at first..
Gaming -- get a Geforce GTS 250 -- pretty small and has lots of variations -- like this low profile : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187098&cm_re=gts_250-_-14-187-098-_-Product
Little gaming -- Geforce GT 240 - has some passive cooling options (passive = no fans) -- like this :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500138&cm_re=gt_240-_-14-500-138-_-Product
But to be real -- If you get a low profile Graphic card without a fan -- then you cant do much gaming on it, cause it overheats more, therefore you cant put a big load on it and overclock it!!
So my suggestion would be - get a decent GTS 250, with a nice cooler, and then just make the fan spin slower!! :d - set the fan speed to about 60 - 70% and you wont be able to hear the fan! -- just go in newegg and search for "GTS 250" - check those which have 1gb of memory and a nice cooler (not those with plastic around - only metal)
Kristaps
got an ati 5770 and it's pretty good support dx11 but doubt my other system could keep up with the more fancy dx11 stuff but it was not that expensive
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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Thats not low profile so i would say no, why dont you buy the parts apart from the graphics and see how much room you have or...
use this search string on new egg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=False&Order=PRICED
dont buy a quadro from nvidia though...if you are putting blueray in try getting one with hdmi, it will also pass digital audio through so no need to hook up a lead from spdif to an external sound system, but if you do get an ati card it will also come with and adapter to pass audi over dvi-i.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._profile_graphics_card-_-14-129-145-_-Product is a good one for games also at the price range you stipulated.
By discreet i'm thinking what they really mean is depth "not width as low profile are, the case is more than large enough on width" as it's going to take up a PCI slot if larger than x amount, so what you need to take into consideration is how many PCI cards are you going to need if 1 then the whole gamble on does this card fit is out of the window and the world of GPU is in your grasp.
The one you linked mmafighter077 is amazing specification on Core Clock RAM DDR3 so bandwidth larger i would advise you speak to Newegg to ask about comparability even though i'm sure what i said above is the reason.
But i could be wrong
actually they dont really need to mention about discreet, read the case review http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146060 bottom left, some who has it says it can fit a geforce 280...
mmafighter077 said:
Thanks a lot guys. All this help is great. Once I built my computer I didn't keep up with all the latest and greatest so I playing catch up right now.
You guys think this one would work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125285
Thanks
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yup !! that will do!! not as powerful as 8800GTS, but it will do the trick for you!! -- GTA4 , blu ray, you name it - the card will do it
I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I wouldnt buy a nvidia one since i rwad that they are less spec as the ati ones for more money.
an ati equivilent of a nvidia costs less and performs better.
flyboy
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true!! -- But I cant help with ATI -- I dont know their model range only thing I know is - ATI 4870 or 4780 (dont remember the corect name but in the series with the first ati X2 card) is more powerfull than Nvidia GTX 260 but costs more than 50% less than GTX 260
Hey Folks
Can someone suggest some good online/lan multiplayer/coop Games i can play with my friends or even my girlfriend (long-distance relationship)?
Genre: Shooter, Strategie, ..well anything except something like minecraft (building-stuff)
Thanks in advance.
Spiral Knights is kind of a fun time waster, and its free
Dungeon Defenders
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Tf2
Sven Co-op
Portal 2
What i've been playing recently. first two are free.
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Basically all the free to play games on steam are multiplayer
Team Fortress 2, Spiral Nights, Rusty Hearts, CrimeCraft: Bleedout, War Inc. Battlezone, Forsaken World,
That is just some of the games from the free to play page that said they were multiplayer. There a lot of games that are free to play that don't list themselves there for their own reasons (NASA: Moonbase Alpha)
Now there are the non-free steam games,
Borderlands, Portal 2, Rage, The Call of Duty lineup, Counter-Stike, Half-life 2: Deathmatch,
Again the list goes on forever.
Then there are non-steam games like League of Legends (free) and its ok, some really like it, not my cup of tea.
Of course the majority of these games require fast internet (20+ mb download and 15+ mb upload on both sides) and a ethernet port fast enough to keep up (no laptops) or wireless n wifi (this can be done by most routers, but only good ones actually transmit data at wireless n level speed, so ethernet is better if you don't have a laptop)
And on top of fast internet, you need a excellent computer to play most of these. If you don't have a AMD Radeon HD 5200 (I have 5400, like 60+ fps on TF2) or better (nvidia equivilent if that floats your boat, I got a AMD cause it was on sale) and a pentium 4 at 3.40 ghz (again, AMD processor if that floats your boat) or better, then on games like TF2, you'll play fine most of the time on offline (vs. bots) mode, but on online you will LAG, a lot.
Just as a rule of thumb, if your using a vga graphics card, most likely, you can't play these games. And if you run dxdiag (using run command in xp, or run bar in vista and 7), you can find your graphics card. If it says something like "Intel Express Family Chipset" then you can't play these games. Or if by some miracle you can (like I could before I upgraded my graphics card) it will get >5 fps and look horrible.
Bottom line, before thinking of the games, check your computer stats at both ends, if you both don't have good stats, your options go to playing leaderboard flash games and trying to beat each others score (really fun ), or buying a console and playing your games on that.
Another recommendation for Portal 2!
Oh wow, huge thanks to everyone.
I'll take a look at all the suggestions
And ofc i know the pc/laptop has to be good enough.
Mine:
Q6600
4 GB DDR2
HD 5805
Girlfriend:
i3-2310M Prozessor, 2,1 GHz
4 GB DDR3
HD 6470M
not sure about the graphiccards, are they both good enough for ..e.g. portal 2?
rest0ck said:
Oh wow, huge thanks to everyone.
I'll take a look at all the suggestions
And ofc i know the pc/laptop has to be good enough.
Mine:
Q6600
4 GB DDR2
HD 5805
Girlfriend:
i3-2310M Prozessor, 2,1 GHz
4 GB DDR3
HD 6470M
not sure about the graphiccards, are they both good enough for ..e.g. portal 2?
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Ram is certainly enough, but try running the dxdiag command, checking the video tab for your graphics card.
Remember "Intel Express Family Chipset" =
Age Of Empires 2. Can't go wrong!
I've been playing l4d2 and just purchased dungeon defenders.
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Came in to say Portal 2! Great... GREAT coop game. Not terribly long but with the recent DLC, it's now even longer.
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Age Of Empires 2. Can't go wrong!
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age of empires 2. Can't go wrong!
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Keeping an eye on this one:
If, like me you played the original AvP games, you'll know what i mean when i say it would have been nice to have had a few friends watching your back!
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If, like me you played the original AvP games, you'll know what i mean when i say it would have been nice to
have had a few friends watching your back!
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i play AvP 3, and even though the gameplay is bad, the multiplayer is good. being the last human standing against aliens are the best!!!
I'd still recommend Age of Empires II for RTS...
Thanks again to everyone.
I took a closer look at every posted Suggestions but hm idk they all look kinda weird^^.
Any other..? Low priced is okay too btw
If you have a good pc, i recomend All Points Bulletin ( APB ) for me its the best game period! Never gets boring, requires a lot cooperation
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hey guys im looking for a laptop that i can play SW on (low-med settings) and im looking at these laptops
A http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215191
B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215197
C http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215206
im really going with A because of the cost plus i will be adding 8 gigs of ram to any of these laptops and a clean install of windows 7 64bit to make sure all the bloatware is off but if i must i will go with b or c if that is the only way ill be able to play on low and medium
if i was to go with A and turn off FULL shadows will i be able to pull it off?
Is there a reason you don't want a desktop?
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yea because this is mostly gonna be used at work (as i get alot of free time at work lol)
anyone? i really want to order this weekend
How much really is your money?
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my max is 550$
i saw these two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215197
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215206
but im also adding 8 gigs of 1066mhz of ram aswell
like i said i just wanna do low-medium on 20-30fps shadows turned off
but if this one can play it at those specs then ill get this one and save $$$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215191
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I think A , B , or C won't play SWOR very well .
You gonna need a good video card and all of these have sub par gaming cards in them .
Should be looking at a laptop with a dedicated video card (not intel on board), an i5 chip at least (i7 preferable) and at least 4 gb of ram .
This is a great site for comparing laptop video cards.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
I just sold my old Dell XPS and bought this HP DV6 similar to this one but a canadian model http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834158058 for when SWOR comes out at the end of the month..
Zar
im not looking to play it on high settings or anything or even at 60fps 15-20 is fine with me im use to it i went to game debate website and can i play it website to test this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215197 with the Geforce 540M can play it on high settings and it has a I5 in it....
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im not looking to play it on high settings or anything or even at 60fps 15-20 is fine with me im use to it i went to game debate website and can i play it website to test this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215197 with the Geforce 540M can play it on high settings and it has a I5 in it....
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If on a budget like you said , that will probably do low to medium graphics.
GT 540m.
I've played the beta on the laptop I linked and it rockz ..
Zar
Any of those will be able to play it on low/medium settings. The game runs *very* efficiently. My rig is pretty powerful (i5 2500k OC'd to 4.2Ghz, 8GB of fast ram, GTX 560 OC'd), but I play it on max settings and still get like 80-150fps...in crowded places.
I'm confident my MBP could play this game at all medium settings, and the specs aren't amazing (i5 @ 3.0Ghz, 4GB, GTX 220)
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Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any knowledge / opinions regarding graphics cards. I'm tossing up weather to buy an Asus GTX 560Ti TOP as they seem to be fantastic for the price point ATM..... or wait for the new nVidia chipset release? Any ideas !?
How is the rest of your system looking? It might be a bit of an overkill, i would go with the GTX560 of 580, It should be ok for the next 2 years. Are you a hardcore gamer?
Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
Intel i7-2600k
8GB G-Skill DDR3 18600
60GB Sata 6Gbps SSD (For OS)
Various Drives for storage.
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
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Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
Intel i7-2600k
8GB G-Skill DDR3 18600
60GB Sata 6Gbps SSD (For OS)
Various Drives for storage.
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
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The 560 will give you some headroom too. And later down tbe road when prices drop on the Kepler drop you can upgrade to that one. Are you an overclocker? Squeeze a bit more out of the 2600k and 560 and you wont notice any real-life performance difference from the Kepler.
If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.
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If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.
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Then you can sell your GTX580 to the OP since he isnt a hardcore gamer and everybody is happy. Solution found! Damn, I'm good. Lol.
I dont know if I would purchase such a high end video card the second it came out. I would wait like 5 months or until a second revision of the product so they can work out bugs with drivers or even with the manufacturing process.
Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?
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Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?
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I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O
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I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O
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yeah but the 680 like the 580, 590 has problems with overclocking.
I rather have a stable card then a blazing fast card that will only last me a month
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nVidia seems to be better
But a little expensive I think
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Well it depends on what works best if you have intel Nvidia works best plus the processor speed too etc.....
680 GTX i tested a beta board for 2 weeks.
No issue's.. just damn power hungry.
I would suggest... once they revise and prices have dropped.
Else.. radeon makes some OP cards as well.
Memory
But basically aim for a 2GB Gddr5 card.. ^_^
Bus Width
Always check the bus width.. the wider the better. ^-^ 128 bit cards mostly suck. 256bit and upward are Can be OP cards..
Core clock speeds..
idk.. depend on manufacturer revision.. Higher clocks are almost always better.
Some cards like nvidia have shader and cuda engines... the may have separate clocks..
If you find a card you like... google it and see how it stacks up.. there are many sites will to provide info. ^_^
Good luck guy.
I disagree with the post above nvdia usually generate a lot less heat compare to amd and the definitely generate a lot less power.
In my opinion the best graphic card suited for the operator is hd6950 because of the price point and you can flash the bios to hd 6970 make it one of the best bang for buck .
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Hey guys,
I didn't really know where else to turn apart from the XDA forums so I'm hoping you guys can help me out.
Basically, I currently own a Acer Aspire 5734z laptop, but it's no good for gaming so I'm looking to upgrade but I'm completely oblivious to the terminology of PC specifications so I'm lost. Here are my current specs;
OS- Windows 7 Home Premium SP1
Processor- Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4500 @ 2.30GHz
RAM- 3gb
Video card- Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family (Pixel Shader version- 4.0, Vertex Shader version- 4.0, Dedicated Video RAM- 64 MB)
320gb hard-drive.
My current options are to upgrade my laptops video card (if possible) and upgrade my RAM to 4gb (My laptop will only support up to 4gb) or to buy a PC and use my 32" TV as a monitor. I'd rather buy a new PC if I can get a cheap enough deal (Under £300 would be perfect, the cheaper the better). I'd want to run a few higher-end games, even if its just on low quality, as long as it's playable I'll be happy. It'll probably be used to play games like Guild Wars 1+2, Diablo 3 (If possible), Starcraft II, Battlefield 3 etc.
Any ideas? What kind of specs on a PC should I look for? What graphic cards are useful for me and what ones aren't?
I'm also from the UK, and I'd prefer to buy in-store than to buy online as shipping is normally an expensive nightmare.
Thanks, I appreciate any help.
Your laptop video isn't upgradeable, your cpu and ram are way too weak to play the mentioned games as well. $300 PC no matter 300 pounds wouldn't likely ether. Your best bet is to build in stages if you need more help picking parts I can help.
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$300 isn't enough to buy a pc for playing those games and in the laptop it would be difficult so you better be step by step and saving more money
Check this video is a $900 pc for playing Diablo 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYZ4qrehCk0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Building a custom would be a lot cheaper by the sounds of it then.
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it, any recommendations on budget hardware?
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I'm sure I have an old tower + monitor in the attic, I might dig that out and see what parts it has then use that a base for upgrading. But I remember it constantly crashing so there must of been something wrong with it (It would crash every 15 minutes which made it useless)
try re installing a os on it, maybe ubuntu?
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try re installing a os on it, maybe ubuntu?
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I'd want to use it for gaming so Ubuntu wouldn't be much use (As far as I'm aware most games aren't compatible with Ubuntu, or is that my stupidity shining?), I could reinstall XP on it.