No MHL 3.0 support? What about OTG? - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I currently have a Note edge and have been looking at edge+ and note 5. I've seen a few post on xda stating that neither phone supports MHL 3.0 is this true, also do they still support OTG? I can deal without MHL due to chomecast and screen mirroring but I have to have OTG support especially since they ditched micro SD. Can anyone confirm both for me thanks.

Otg works fine

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[Q]Docks for our phone?

Im looking for a really good dock with HDMI out, and if its possible multiple usb ports out.
Just like the Galaxy note 2 dock:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Origina...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item27d1b98c76
If anybody knows a similar dock(s) share with me please.
You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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Thats pretty sad
cickvoa said:
You will be unable to use it, i think that O4X has "old" mhl which does not supports simoultaneous data and video transfer plus no native host support
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i think we are talking mostly software here because OTG Host works on LG and hdmi out too ,but i really dont know about simoultaneous actions
i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock
first versions of mhl were 5 pin, second is 11 pin. first CANNOT transfer at the same time, second CAN.
MHL was being developed by the MHL Consortium, a Consortium made up of leading companies in the mobile and CE space that includes Nokia, Samsung, Silicon Image, Sony and Toshiba.
Say thank you to that idiots that decided to made MHL. I prefer micro USB + micro HDMI, but this is probably easier to do.
11 pin MHL was introduces i think with SGS3
5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle
The first implementations use the most popular mobile connection (micro USB) and the most popular TV connection (HDMI). Other than the physical connectors, USB and HDMI technology are not being used. It is exclusively MHL signaling through the connectors and over the cable.
11-pin "samsungs MHL"-HDMI adapter/dongle
The Samsung Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II and Galaxy S4 use a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter/dongle, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously. (Note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB On-The-Go port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III/ Note 2 can power the MHL-HDMI adapter (when used with a non-MHL-compatible-TV). Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
The Galaxy S III was the first MHL device to use a different connector - one that is not compatible with all other MHL devices and accessories. [9][10]
sources are form wiki
EDIT: and yet, i have googled a little, seems that 11pin does not do host and video at the same time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583
so... samsung is being idiot by forcing their standards. Thats why I hate big companies, they are like spoiled children. Idiotic, in 2010/2011 when MHL was not installed in mobiel phones you could use hdmi independent on usb. but now you cant. point of using mhl???
its a bit of a shame, i wanted this phone to be as viable as possible for Ubuntu touch's desktop environment. But its not that much of an issue, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse works fine in that regard
DankoFGL said:
i really don't know if we can use MHL and USB hub at the same time, but i use the MHL cable from my HTC Sensation and it works using external power, also, the thing that i do is putting my Sensation on a normal Dock, in the dock i connect the MHL, the HDMI to my 42 inch monitor, and a Keyboard with mouse like whis http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handheld/dp/B00BALK9CM/ref=pd_cp_pc_0...
i have do the same with my LG 4X HD, but without the dock, deffenitly faster and better!
i have my eyes on this
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streame...=UTF8&qid=1373153894&sr=8-1&keywords=mhl+dock
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Are you using stock rom? I think that MHL video output is bugged in CM10.1.
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I use stock
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HTC One M8 MHL cable?

Hey guys Im looking for a good quality USB to HDMI MHL cable, that will work with the M8. Any good suggestions?
naurto75 said:
Hey guys Im looking for a good quality USB to HDMI MHL cable, that will work with the M8. Any good suggestions?
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I order one it should be here soon Ill let you know how it works out.
young0ne said:
I order one it should be here soon Ill let you know how it works out.
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Thanks, mind linking the amazon so I can take a look?
naurto75 said:
Thanks, mind linking the amazon so I can take a look?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/351000448039?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
this is where i got mines
Did your MHL cable work for the M8?
I have a cheap one I got for my Samsung s3, and it has an adapter that goes between the phone and the cable and if I don't use that adapter it works fine. I think the Samsung interface has a switched wire that's why it needs it. So not all cables are the same but if the universal one had a removable adapter it will probably work.
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How did you guys got it to work? I bought two different MHL 5pin adapters and none worked. The MHL symbol does appear on the phone but there is no image on the TV. I dont undestand and I am getting desperate, does someone has any tips?
Cheers
A "cheap" MHL cable will probably be MHL 1.0, which won't support 1080p (1080i @ 30Hz max rather than the 1080p @ 60Hz that MHL 2.0 supports)
Most MHL cables are also designed for use with recent Samsung devices, which use a proprietary MHL implementation, which is NOT compatible with non-Samsung devices.
The MHL "standard" is almost totally useless, mostly thanks to Samsung creating this confusion, plus the fact that almost no-one ever categorically states what version of the format (1.0, 2.0 and now 3.0) their devices are.
The new Sony devices support MHL 3.0, if they use a standard implementation then their adapters might be the way to go, assuming they eventually turn up and don't cost an arm and a leg.
Anyone with T-Mobile firmware can please confirm if MHL works?

[Q] usb otg (host) help?: bad unit or doing something wrong?

Hello. Had my note 4 since release and just now trying to use usb host / otg and having no luck. Absolutely no devices are working on my note 4. Tried the otg adapter on my nexus 10 and its fine so unless there is a special adapter needed for the note 4 the otg cable is not the problem. I have tried a xbox controller a mous and a thumb drive and nothing not even led lights showing activation.
So any advice or is my usb port bad? Been using vanilla android for a while (nexus devices) is there a setting im not use to maybe?
solved
It appears my motorola otg is not compatable with the note 4. Tried a samsung otg and all works. Guess not all cables are equal?
No problem here. Using my old otg cable from my Note 2
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Maybe cause its samsung otg? Dunno either way i know my motorola otg (from xoom) does not work on my note but works on all my vanilla nexus devices. Either way got it working
my patriot stealth xt 64gb works perfect on my note4.

What adapter for MHL / HDMI?

Hi all,
I have appradio 4. I was using a Samsung 2.0 MHL adapter for my S5. To my surprise, it does not fit S6 Edge. What is the proper accessory?
im sure i read somewhere the s6 doesnt support MHL,
from memory i was part kickstarter for a new mhl lead and they had to ask all s6 owners to cancel as samsung didnt support it?
Yea the post above is correct. S6 only supports screen mirroring miracast not mhl. Sucks if you ask me. Only plus is you can actually hold a charge in your phone using mirroring unlike mhl. Atleast that's how it was with my HTC one.

Type-C (USB 3.1) and hdmi out

Hello everyone,
I'm thinking about this phone, but my first priority is to be able to connect it via cable with my Pioneer AppRadio (I know there is miracast, chromecast etc - been there, tried both, sound quality with compression is really low).
As this device has USB 3.1 - would any adapter work?
I can't seem to find exact answers if all usb 3.1 type-c devices support hdmi out (or some sort of mhl).
Thanks
I'm also interested in this. Did anyone check if MHL or Slimport is working on Z2 pro?
Hi,
After looking in this site http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php, i can see that this is a usb 2 adapter with a type-c connector.
They also don't mention mhl/hdmi so this means that it is probably not supported.
I don't think there is any relation between usb and mhl or hdmi.
Hope this helps.
I did read somewhere it only supports wifi direct as display output but I can not find my source
It can work, because we can have it with USB 3.1, but we need drivers/settings inside a kernel and custom rom.
I have a usb 3.1 type C module who give me charge, usb 3.0 port and hdmi port, actually, only USB 3.0 port work.
The point is , it's getting harder and harder to find a good phone with 4/4+ GB RAM with video out support. No one really knows why they're moving away from this tech even if it's cheap and easy to implement. Some people say they're trying to promote wireless connectivity, others say having those powerful phones support video out will eventually prevent people from buying entry-level laptops. Anyhow, it's weird. If you know of any device with 4 or more GB of RAM (Sony's devices excluded) that support video out, please let us know!
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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youngcity said:
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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I forgot to exclude LG too. After G2, their flagships are a disappointment, one way or another.
Anyway, thanx for the info, I didn't know HTC 10 supports it.
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