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Nexus & laggy after 4.4 update

It was smooth before,now its so laggy...
anyone else have this issue?
I'm going to try a factory restore after I back my stuff up but if this is the way its going to be on 4.4 i'm going to be kind of :crying:

Try a clean flash and ull feel the difference, besides half of the apps u use are not optimized for KK so that might be the issue.
Remember after first boot tablet is laggy and services in the background will stop soon.

xateeq said:
Try a clean flash and ull feel the difference, besides half of the apps u use are not optimized for KK so that might be the issue.
Remember after first boot tablet is laggy and services in the background will stop soon.
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yea im gonna try that,just gotta back up my pics and stuff.
whats that last phone in your pic(the nokia one). I remember it but cant remember the model #.

I guess I got lucky. Mine has been great since the update.

You need to wipe the device clean and begin from scratch. Mine runs better than 4.3 ever did, overall i think its great.

yep, do fresh stock install then 4.4 rocks
cr0wnest said:
You need to wipe the device clean and begin from scratch. Mine runs better than 4.3 ever did, overall i think its great.
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My 4.4 is great, I did a stock 4.4 KRT14S fresh wipe install, and then installed my apps and entered settings. It runs a lot better than 4.2.2 and 4.3.

yep, same results here! Laggy as hell, i did a backup using helium (as not rooted) to my pc of various game data then let the ota upgrade start, followed by a hard reset a.k.a. a clean install (me thinks??)
Google Play automatically then re installed my apps and settings (most of them!) Finally a restore of some apps and theme settings again using helium from my PC = slow, and getting various app and system crashes ever since...? #Disappointed
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nigelhealy said:
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My 4.4 is great, I did a stock 4.4 KRT14S fresh wipe install, and then installed my apps and entered settings. It runs a lot better than 4.2.2 and 4.3.
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So how do I do "a stock 4.4 KRT14S fresh wipe install" ?

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So how do I do "a stock 4.4 KRT14S fresh wipe install" ?
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Many ways, the way I did was to http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/ this, get drivers installed (once only and the most fiddly thing of all overall) and do "unlock" (once only), and then as I tried 4.2.2. , 4.3, 4.4, 4.4.1 and back to 4.3..... etc is "stock+unroot" then root. Then I copy supersu.zip to /sdcard to keep root on it if it loses root which it does in a few situations. e.g. 4.4 then root then installed Franco kernel lost root.
There is the adb sideload and other methods but once I got the WUGS NRT working, I stuck with that.
I now don't use any google backup/restore at all now, I just install what I want and configure myself. That way it is as vanilla as possible. A few APKS hard to get, I copy them onto fileserver I can access from anywhere.
I've done this with my N4 and N7 2012.

I want a responsive Note 3 without a new Rom

I don't have the time to constantly be looking for new roms to make my phone run properly. My phone is always freezing up due to the stupid Touchwiz UI and I absolutely hate it. I am sick and tired of my phone freezing up and lagging constantly and having to do factory reset and reinstalling all my apps fresh.
So I was wondering, what can I do to fix this problem in a easier manner? I was thinking about rooting the phone, saving all my app data, unrooting, resetting the phone, rooting again, uninstall bloatware, reinstalling apps with their data, and unrooting.
Here are my concerns though. I want to be able to reset the phone using the orignal factory reset. I don't have time or care to install new roms on my phone as I want to keep my warranty and I want to be able to sell my phone in the future.
So what are my options here? What can I do and what are my steps to start doing them?
I am on AT&T Note 3 with kitkat 4.4.2 with my build number ending in NC2.

Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.

joshlete said:
Is the Note 3 development this bad? Not one response in a couple days. Anyone have a simple answer?
I just want to know if I can factory reset if I root my device and how I could complete unroot.
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Simple answer is root with towelroot, and when you want to do a complete factory reset, flash stock NC2 using the guide in this thread.
I think your original question about what options you have is a little more complicated...rooting your phone technically voids your warranty, but if you're referring to the KNOX warranty flag then towelroot doesn't trip that flag. Reflashing stock NC2 with Odin will unroot your phone automatically so no worries there either. What I'm getting at is flashing roms isn't going to void your warranty any more than rooting with towelroot will, on the other hand uninstalling system apps can cause lots of problems, so you may find it easier to flash a near-stock rom that has the bloatware already removed.
But if you're set on not flashing anything, then I'd suggest using titanium backup to freeze any apps you don't want instead of uninstalling them. If you uninstall the wrong app you could end up having to do a factory reset anyway just to get your phone working again. Freezing system apps can cause problems too but it's generally easier to unfreeze an app than try and find and reinstall a system apk. And as tempting as it is don't uninstall My Magazine you'll get FC all over the place and your email won't work properly

So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.

The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock

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So if I install that stock rom, would I be able to update my phone using the internal updater? I just want to be able to install Android 5.0 when/if it comes out for the Note 3. Seeing how AT&T note 3 has little to no roms to install. Very disappointing.
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Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.

I'm on the same boat as you OP. When time comes for a new phone, my next phone will never be another Samsung phone again. I will only consider phones that are close to stock. Most likely Motorola X or Sony Z3 Compact or similar.
TouchWiz is so disappointing. It's slow and creates lags even for just checking what time it is.
Fortunately I have some time so unlike OP, I tried debloating stock rom, tried at least 5 custom roms. Most of the custom roms have either too much theme customization (really not my taste) or something else doesn't work (NFC payment or deep sleep or some other thing). And they all claim super duper fast and rock stable, but those are hyperboles. The only time I experienced one rom being faster than the other was with Galaxy S5 port rom, but that was most likely due to the fact that standby mode is disabled because we have no way to update the firmware. In other words, uses more battery but still lasts a day. Also, I never seen the battery last exceptionally longer than the stock rom, so don't trust the super long lasting battery claims.
The easiest way to get your phone run smoothly is to factory reset it, and then only install select apps that you really need and know that it won't be a resource hog reporting your every move.
Oh, and last year's Moto X (dual core) feels faster than a quad core Note3 for everyday task in my hands. I wish we had a google experience rom for n900a.

brisinger08 said:
The Odin files in that thread are for stock NC2 and unless you flashed a rom after your second post you're still on stock...it's the exact same AT&T stock build...flashing it won't really benefit you at all unless you rooted and made changes to your system. I assume by internal updater you mean the OTA updates that get pushed out from AT&T then yes since that is the official AT&T build if you flash it you will still get those updates provided AT&T is your carrier. There may not be a lot of roms but the ones we have are great I'd encourage you to try one or two there are a couple "debloated" stock roms I think would give you what you're looking for in terms of stability but of course it's up to you if you just want to stay stock
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Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
RErick said:
Wow... just... wow.
This POST is disappointing.
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Most useless post of the year goes to......

joshlete said:
Could you link me to some stock roms? I lost my game in rom finding and can't seem to get a good running/looking rom.
Most useless post of the year goes to......
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UR Droid is probably the closest to stock...Knox removed, sd card write permissions fixed, etc. are the only mods...that said carl's made a ton of flashable zips too so if you did want to start making mods yourself chances are you won't have any problems while running his rom
FireKat is one you've probably run across. That is a stock rom all of the mods/optimizations/etc mega makes are from other stock builds. There's no theming or anything like that it's more like "TouchWiz optimized"...again nothing extraneous added if you want to add tethering, call recording, etc you'll have to do it yourself. FireKat is geared towards speed and battery life but it's rock solid with no known issues. All of the rom updates you see are for performance improvements as opposed to the majority of the aosp-hybrid or heavily themed roms where updates are for bug fixes.
Both devs are really helpful and responsive definitely check out their threads though since I'm not up to date with both roms. I have flashed both of them at some point and both are significant improvements over stock...of course no one can tell you what roms you'll like or should flash but I'd be pretty surprised if you have a better experience on stock than either of these roms.

I've been running a stock rooted 4.4.2 for months and it was not laggy at all.
In the application manager settings I turned off all bloatware apps that I did not use. I froze (with titanium backup) all bloatware that could not be turned off in settings and also froze anything that says "knox" in the title. I used xposed installer to install many modules that allowed me to tweak my stock rom... including greenify to auto hibernate apps, smart booster to manage ram, boot manager, and also Wanam xposed for ui customizing...
My phone has run extremely well.
I just made the jump to 4.4.4 and got it rooted (thanks to @muniz_ri and a few others).... exact same setup again... stock rooted... turn off and freeze un-needed apps... xposed modules... and again it is running nice and smooth.
I also use nova launcher prime because it feels more responsive and does more things that I want (like a home screen that will autorotate to landscape mode).

Wow, that's a lot to have for being stock .
The only way to get rid most of your concerns is to root your phone. Then you can delete all other useless apps that you don't need and slow your phone down a bit.
But installing a new Rom is the best way to have a peace in mind I think. Dynamic KitKat is one of the best roms for our phone. I've been using it for months and there is nothing I can say how much I like it. Sometimes I experience lag, but that is to be expected because of Android's ability to do multitasks.
Just my 2 cents.

[Q] Status bar stuck after screen unlock

I have been experiencing a rather annoying bug on my S6. After unlocking the screen, sometimes the status bar will not pull down. This happens about 1/5 unlocks. I have to lock the screen again and then unlock for it to work again. Since the status bar is usually the first thing I use after unlocking, this becomes a real pain. I was hoping that the recent update would fix this, but it's still happening.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I couldn't find anything on the forums or Google.

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I have been experiencing a rather annoying bug on my S6. After unlocking the screen, sometimes the status bar will not pull down. This happens about 1/5 unlocks. I have to lock the screen again and then unlock for it to work again. Since the status bar is usually the first thing I use after unlocking, this becomes a real pain. I was hoping that the recent update would fix this, but it's still happening.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I couldn't find anything on the forums or Google.
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Could you please provide additional information about your phone, such as the Base and or ROM?
Maybe try going into Recovery mode and clearing cache, that may resolve it.

Rayman360 said:
Could you please provide additional information about your phone, such as the Base and or ROM?
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Baseband: G920AUCU1AOCE
ROM: Stock unrooted (G920AUCU1AOE2)
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Maybe try going into Recovery mode and clearing cache, that may resolve it.
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No recovery, but the cache was cleared after I installed the G920AUCU1AOE2 update.

gj13 said:
Baseband: G920AUCU1AOCE
ROM: Stock unrooted (G920AUCU1AOE2)
No recovery, but the cache was cleared after I installed the G920AUCU1AOE2 update.
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There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182

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There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182
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That doesn't explain why it was happening when I was on the version that it shipped with. They matched at that point. Good suggestion though.

Rayman360 said:
There is the issue right there, your base needs to be G920AUCU1AOE2, your on the older firmware but using the newer ROM. Use Odin to return to stock G920AUCU1AOCE, then do the OTA update from AT&T again. FYI The new PingPong Root still works on the new OTA, if you decide to go that route.
Return to Stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/development/5-16-stock-odin-tar-g920aucu1aoce-t3110182
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I just updated the baseband to match the software. I'll report back after I use it a bit to see if it happens again. It just happened after I posted that. Ugh x.x

Looks like I'm going to have to factory reset. I was hoping more people would at least vote on the poll -.-

Wireless charging possible cause
It seems like this issue only happens if you use wireless charging. I did a factory reset on the phone and used it for a couple weeks with AC charging and I did not have this issue. As soon as I tried wireless charging again, the issue came right back.

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It seems like this issue only happens if you use wireless charging. I did a factory reset on the phone and used it for a couple weeks with AC charging and I did not have this issue. As soon as I tried wireless charging again, the issue came right back.
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I strictly use wireless charging, so your blanket statement only applies to you. Never had an issue with three different charging pads.
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Root 5.1.1 or 6.0.1?

I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!

ota then root

I OTA'ed, now the phone randomly reboots several times a day, and some apps don't work correctly. Great.

factory reset.

*sigh* I was afraid you were going to say that. Now the problem is backing it up. I have a Titanium Backup Pro license, but I only use it on my old rooted GS2. The Note 4 is not rooted so TB won't run on it. All the rooting tutorials say "back up your phone before you root" but you need root to run TB. Chicken or egg? I guess I could try Samsung Kies, don't know if it will back up everything. My photos are backed up to Google Photos, I guess everything else is replaceable, but I would really rather not have to reinstall all my apps one by one after a factory reset.
That brings up another question: when you to go Settings/Backup and Reset, I have "Backup my data" set to On and linked to my Google account, but nowhere can I find documentation of exactly WHAT gets backed up or to WHERE (it says to "Google servers" but what the heck does that mean? I can't find it on my Google Drive or anywhere else on my Google account dashboard.)
I do greatly appreciate your help, by the way.

You could try reinstalling through kies or smart switch. Make sure to clear caches before and after. And see if that works. If it doesnt help, you could flash recovery, root, try to backup as much as you can between reboots and then factory reset. Your apps should automatically download from play store. But without the titbackup files you'll lose settings and data in a lot of apps that Google doesn't backup.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.

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I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
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Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.

Shad0wsabr3 said:
Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
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There aren't that many problems with MM. Just superficial stuff like not having mobile data toggle. The problems you are hearing about a factory reset will fix. Like lag, jankyness, apps loading, phone freezing temporarily. You won't be able to do OTA. It will fail because of root. You need to titanium backup or whatever method you prefer of backing up data and flash through kies, odin or smart switch. Probably easier to go that route unless you only did minor things with root like just block ads, then you can probably get away with flashing stock recovery and then OTA. You still might have to factory reset like I had to even though I flashed whole rom through smart switch. If you have xposed or modified something like swapping recent apps and back key like me, then you'll need to flash marshmallow whole and start over after backing up.
Afaik, you can't downgrade to 5.1.1 unless somebody figured out a workaround or you only flashed everything except bootloader.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.

@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.

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@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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Iv never backed up an unrooted device so I wouldn't know. Glad you nrought that up as Iv been meaning to look into that.
Would you happen to know where the downloaded ota file location is? My phone downloaded it and I keep postponing it.

Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.

Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?

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Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...overy-n910t-t3-marshmallow-pe3-guide-t3406870

kydar said:
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
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I'm still researching what your dealing with. As for me I found the ota file. For those looking for it this is how and where I found it....
With RomToolbox I went to root browser. Then to data folder and a folder named fota. Within the fota folder is the ota update named update.zip. I erased that and then went into Titanium Backup and chose to freeze both software update files. So far no constant reminders that I have an update ready to be installed.
Hope this may help.

Should I downgrade my android version?

Hey, I am currently running 6.0.1 as my android version. Just asking but would it be suggested to downgrade the android version? If yes, than too which version?

Why do you want to downgrade?

The Nexus 6 came out with the 5.0, you can't go further back, even with custom roms. Actually I've head somebody trying to build KitKat for the shamu, but I don't know if he succeeded.
Also why would you like to downgrade, anyway?

Oh as far as why: I had enough with 6.0.1 freezing/slow/crashing on me. Sometimes it even freezes to the point where I cannot turn off the screen for a few minutes at times. I also have enough with the apps freezing or does not work and Chrome sometimes freezes as well.

Why not upgrading to android 7 instead of downgrading?

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Oh as far as why: I had enough with 6.0.1 freezing/slow/crashing on me. Sometimes it even freezes to the point where I cannot turn off the screen for a few minutes at times. I also have enough with the apps freezing or does not work and Chrome sometimes freezes as well.
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Why don't you try upgrading instead? Android 7.0 factory image has just been released.

Oh, has it been released? Does it causes those boot loop issues on Motorola branded phones just like it does with LG branded? And could I upgrade using the Wugs tool?

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Oh, has it been released? Does it causes those boot loop issues on Motorola branded phones just like it does with LG branded? And could I upgrade using the Wugs tool?
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If you want to flash the factory image then go here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
You will find the factory image for 7.0 there and also the instructions on how to flash it. If you are already on stock 6.0.1, you should bee recieving an OTA update soon. But since you say you have reboots and freezes I would take a backup of what every you need onto your computer and then start of fresh from the link above. That way you won't be haunted by old bugs that might be stuck because of previous versions.

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Oh as far as why: I had enough with 6.0.1 freezing/slow/crashing on me. Sometimes it even freezes to the point where I cannot turn off the screen for a few minutes at times. I also have enough with the apps freezing or does not work and Chrome sometimes freezes as well.
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These freezing/slow/crashing issues look very unique to you. Why didn't you try a factory reset, then add your apps back one by one, and look for those that give you trouble. Also are you rooted, do you use xposed or anything that modifies the basic system? Because I'm runnin 6.0.1 myself, and never had the issues you do.

The instructions on the developer page to flash looks too confusing. Well, it jumps right into it when myself I never done it before.

Everybody on this site once knew nothing about Android. Your safest bet is to just wait for the OTA to be offered (or proactively check for it) and accept it. If you're as novice as your posts suggest, I'm guessing that you're running a pure stock device, so you won't run into any problems with the upgrade. And if you do, you know where we are...