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Subject says (asks) it all. I'm wondering how many of you are actually going for the T-Mobile variant just to get the unlocked bootloader. History tells me there will probably be some kind of root exploit for the AT&T model in the not-so-distant future, but I also only have about 12 days to return mine to AT&T and I'm not fond of how locked down it is currently.
Also, those of you who actually bought one from T-Mobile: How did you do it? I can't seem to do it online without adding a month of service and I'm wondering if they'll even sell me one in a store if I don't have an account with them.
I got one, went into a store and bought it outright, used cellunlocker.net to sim unlock, then rooted, recovery, custom rom.
No thanks -- I'll keep my AT&T model. I don't care about custom roms, only want root...which will happen soon enough. I used to wait anywhere from 3-6 months for an iPhone jailbreak, so this waiting game doesn't phase me. Besides, you can do much more than the iPhone even without root, so I'm a happy camper.
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I got one, went into a store and bought it outright, used cellunlocker.net to sim unlock, then rooted, recovery, custom rom.
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And they didn't give you any pushback at all about buying the device without service?
karmuh said:
No thanks -- I'll keep my AT&T model. I don't care about custom roms, only want root...which will happen soon enough. I used to wait anywhere from 3-6 months for an iPhone jailbreak, so this waiting game doesn't phase me. Besides, you can do much more than the iPhone even without root, so I'm a happy camper.
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Yeah, I just want to root to block ads and tether. I don't care about custom roms, but the way this thing is locked down, it seems like root will be a long time coming, if at all.
To answer the OP question. I am waiting for the T-Mobile 32Gb S5. If they do get it then I have another choice to decide, stay with ATT or make the move fully to T-Mobile. I am DONE buying ATT locked bootloader phones.
I love HAVING A CHOICE of Roms, flashing kernels flashing modems, making and flashing themes, or ANYTHING I want to do with MY PHONE
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To answer the OP question. I am waiting for the T-Mobile 32Gb S5. If they do get it then I have another choice to decide, stay with ATT or make the move fully to T-Mobile. I am DONE buying ATT locked bootloader phones.
I love HAVING A CHOICE of Roms, flashing kernels flashing modems, making and flashing themes, or ANYTHING I want to do with MY PHONE
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This. I may or may not pick up the T-Mobile S5 off contract either tonight or maybe sometime this week. Only thing is the high price. Spending $700+ on a Samsung doesn't sit that well with me for some reason, despite doing it the past without giving it a second thought.
But yea, no more AT&T devices. I'm not supporting their horrible business tactics anymore. Locking phones down like that is horrible. These Samsung phones NEED root and custom roms because they are not great out of the box. PERIOD.
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To answer the OP question. I am waiting for the T-Mobile 32Gb S5. If they do get it then I have another choice to decide, stay with ATT or make the move fully to T-Mobile. I am DONE buying ATT locked bootloader phones.
I love HAVING A CHOICE of Roms, flashing kernels flashing modems, making and flashing themes, or ANYTHING I want to do with MY PHONE
Sent From My Spiderman,Ironman,Red,Dark Blue,Green, GreyedOut BadAss Themed I337
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I'm in the same boat. I have till Thursday to return my ATT S5. I think I'm definitely going to get a TMO device but I can't decide if I can switch to TMO. Looking at their coverage maps they definitely don't have the coverage area AT&T has but they also appear to be a tiny bit cheaper than AT&T even with the corporate discount.
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And they didn't give you any pushback at all about buying the device without service?
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Nope sold it to me outright. No questions asked.
RockRatt said:
To answer the OP question. I am waiting for the T-Mobile 32Gb S5. If they do get it then I have another choice to decide, stay with ATT or make the move fully to T-Mobile. I am DONE buying ATT locked bootloader phones.
I love HAVING A CHOICE of Roms, flashing kernels flashing modems, making and flashing themes, or ANYTHING I want to do with MY PHONE
Sent From My Spiderman,Ironman,Red,Dark Blue,Green, GreyedOut BadAss Themed I337
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Might as well do it while you can, because even T-mobile will be locking their bootloaders soon as well. Every major US carrier will have locked bootloaders from now on. It'll be up to the phone manufacturers to provide an unlock or not, similar to what HTC does.
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Might as well do it while you can, because even T-mobile will be locking their bootloaders soon as well. Every major US carrier will have locked bootloaders from now on. It'll be up to the phone manufacturers to provide an unlock or not, similar to what HTC does.
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This information is based on what?
It's probably not based on anything except history & common sense. Just about all the other carriers are doing it & they're all tired of warrantying phones over rooting & custom Rom's.
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Just common sense. Every major carrier already locks every devices bootloader. The only exception is T-Mobile, only because they want to grab as many customers as they can. That's also why they kept the download booster, while every other major US carrier disabled it. They're standing out from the crowd looking to scoop up the on-the-fence people...and it's working, for the most part.
It's obvious they'll be forced to step in line with other carriers soon. You can have the wishful thinking they won't...but it'll just be wishful thinking, unfortunately.
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Just common sense. Every major carrier already locks every devices bootloader. The only exception is T-Mobile, only because they want to grab as many customers as they can. That's also why they kept the download booster, while every other major US carrier disabled it. They're standing out from the crowd looking to scoop up the on-the-fence people...and it's working, for the most part.
It's obvious they'll be forced to step in line with other carriers soon. You can have the wishful thinking they won't...but it'll just be wishful thinking, unfortunately.
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Sprint doesn't lock their bootloader either. AT&T and Verizon are the only ones that do.
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Just common sense. Every major carrier already locks every devices bootloader. The only exception is T-Mobile, only because they want to grab as many customers as they can. That's also why they kept the download booster, while every other major US carrier disabled it. They're standing out from the crowd looking to scoop up the on-the-fence people...and it's working, for the most part.
It's obvious they'll be forced to step in line with other carriers soon. You can have the wishful thinking they won't...but it'll just be wishful thinking, unfortunately.
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I disagree. In the world, the only two carriers who locked theirs are Verizon and AT&T. AT&T has locked their RAT lock for a while now (not allowing you to change bands/technologies) and I think this is the next evolution of control.
For T-mobile, they have never locked their RAT or their boot loaders. So it's not a ploy to grab customers
Ordered my T-Mobile SM-G900T in black this morning. Yeah, I paid $700 for it on eBay, unlocked, from a reputable seller. Buying outright here in NJ would have been $702 (unless I went to Vineland where it's 3.5% tax it would have been $681) so I just went on eBay and got it.
I bought my AT&T SGS5 outright (through the financing, but it's still considered outright) but hopefully I can sell it and make up part of the loss of needing to "upgrade" to the T-Mobile version.
Well, here's my reasoning: I'm plain unhappy with the SGS5 I have now. I would rather have my SGS3 back. The level of customization and non-touchwiz elements used before actually made both play and practical day to day usage of the phone way better on the SGS3. I can't stand being stuck using the phone as if I'm a n00b who's never seen a smartphone before. I do like the new screen, and it's not that much bigger (I had a beast Body Glove on the S3 so it was pretty much the same size as the S5 with the Spigen Neo Hybrid haha).
So... Considering I was happy with the SGS3 for nearly 2 years, and now would STILL BE HAPPIER WITH THE SGS3 THAN THE SGS5 NOW, I figure it's worth paying a few extra bucks to actually have 2+ years of enjoyable use out of the phone.
My only next obstacle is selling the one I have now.. freakin brand new with skinomi screen protector (best job I ever did putting a wet protector on lol) from day 1. Oh well, totally worth it for me.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I like the phone. Not quite as smooth as my nexus 5, but pretty good, and who knows when we'll get the next Android update.
Really like the gear 2 neo that I bought at the same time, and unless I want to wait for another smart watch and go back to the nexus, then I will stay with this.
Don't want to pay full price for a T-Mobile version, so I might just deal with no root and a locked bootloader.
The screen is absolutely the best phone screen I've ever used, and it would be hard to go back to the nexus after using this just because of the screen.
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And the battery life is so much better as well
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Hi -
I'm a bit hard pressed for time here. Will need to order a 32gb variant of the nexus 6 via ATT. The phone will be used in India, so it will be purchased upfront from ATT and unlocked.
My only question is - Will I be able to:
1. Root [I'm guessing yes]
2. Flash custom recovery [i'm guessing yes]
3. Can all traces of ATT crap be removed? [who wants that anyway?]
4. Install custom kernels / roms like PA / CM etc etc [Unclear about this]
If not, is there any other carrier service that can help me In basically converting their network locked phone into what google sells?
Can someone confirm this?
Thanks in advance.
Have you by chance.......
Glanced or read a single thread in here? I'm not trying to be rude, but this is a Nexus and every question is covered by spending three minutes looking in here or going to google.
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
kdoggy said:
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
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That's just mean. Haha.
I'm really sorry if it's been asked a ton of times before. I'm not the guy who keeps asking the same questions again and again. But I'm hard pressed for time at the moment. And I'm working out of a limited internet connectivity environment. It would be very helpful if someone could please answer concisely to the point. As long is I'm able to flash customs stuff, I'm all good!
TIA
kdoggy said:
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
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Your siggy seems to suggest otherwise
blueren said:
I'm really sorry if it's been asked a ton of times before. I'm not the guy who keeps asking the same questions again and again. But I'm hard pressed for time at the moment. And I'm working out of a limited internet connectivity environment. It would be very helpful if someone could please answer concisely to the point. As long is I'm able to flash customs stuff, I'm all good!
TIA
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AT&T is carrier Sim locked, try sprint or T-Mobile. The are not Sim locked
hlxanthus said:
AT&T is carrier Sim locked, try sprint or T-Mobile. The are not Sim locked
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Thanks for this.
I'm ok with just about any carrier just as long as i'm able to root and flash like a boss!
Is this the one you're talking about?
http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...bleId=MOTXT1103KIT&flow=AAL&isDeeplinked=true
blueren said:
Thanks for this.
I'm ok with just about any carrier just as long as i'm able to root and flash like a boss!
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A nexus is a nexus is a nexus. Yes you can unlock the boot loader, yes you can root, flash etc etc.
1. Buy the phone from any carrier
2. Remove any bloat (its simple)
3. Spend an additional $9.99 to unlock Sim
4. Take two minutes to look at the nexus 6 forums, I highly encourage exploratory learning
Enjoy.
I purchased the phone for $250 US from AT&T (extended current contract 2 more years), received it 16 November. I'm on truly un-throttled data (Cingular wireless grandfathered). Rooted, unlocked, no bloat (to include logo) and I'm good to go.
Lastly do me a favor, do not believe the hype about "OMG it's a sprint/T-Mobile/att purchased phone, I'm screwed" because its not from google or moto. Spend 10 bucks, sim unlock and save yourself from all the preconceived notions you'll hear lots of people yap about.
Sent from my Nexus 6
swiftchancelor said:
A nexus is a nexus is a nexus. Yes you can unlock the boot loader, yes you can root, flash etc etc.
1. Buy the phone from any carrier
2. Remove any bloat (its simple)
3. Spend an additional $9.99 to unlock Sim
4. Take two minutes to look at the nexus 6 forums, I highly encourage exploratory learning
Enjoy.
I purchased the phone for $250 US from AT&T (extended current contract 2 more years), received it 16 November. I'm on truly un-throttled data (Cingular wireless grandfathered). Rooted, unlocked, no bloat (to include logo) and I'm good to go.
Lastly do me a favor, do not believe the hype about "OMG it's a sprint/T-Mobile/att purchased phone, I'm screwed" because its not from google or moto. Spend 10 bucks, sim unlock and save yourself from all the preconceived notions you'll hear lots of people yap about.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Thanks. I've always jumped from one Nexus to another. But have never purchased or used one from one of the US based carriers. (I'm not gonna use it the US anyway) My only jitter was that it should be completely flashable .. especially because I don't want to be stuck with a dead phone half way around the world.
On the same note -- Sim unlocking -- Is that necessary? Since I won't be using a Tmobile / att / sprint sim at all. I'll be using a Vodafone IN sim that works in my country
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Thanks. I've always jumped from one Nexus to another. But have never purchased or used one from one of the US based carriers. (I'm not gonna use it the US anyway) My only jitter was that it should be completely flashable .. especially because I don't want to be stuck with a dead phone half way around the world.
On the same note -- Sim unlocking -- Is that necessary? Since I won't be using a Tmobile / att / sprint sim at all. I'll be using a Vodafone IN sim that works in my country
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If you purchase the phone from ATT you will have to Sim unlock in order to use the Sim from your country.
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I've been doing research for the past couple of days and I have seen that when the Nexus 6 came out that there were basically just 2 different models out. The International and the North American models. I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 from Verizon and I honestly can say that I just find TouchWiz ugly. I have rooted it but it was too late, the damage Verizon has done already left a huge enough impact that I am too afraid to put a rom on it in fear of the consequences. It was my first smartphone and I was happy with it when I first got it and now I am not to fond of it any longer. With the way Verizon's new plans are, I'm hoping of buying the Nexus 6 from them and slowly paying it off.
I apologize for long intro so i'll get to the point. I am curious about the differences of the Nexus 6 straight from Google and the Nexus 6 straight from the Verizon store if I buy it from them. I would prefer to buy straight from Verizon since I'm a college student and money is very tight and the slow payments seem to work out better in the long run even though I will be paying more if I buy it straight from Verizon. , but if getting the "clean" Nexus 6 is worth the better investment then i'll save up more money and pay for it all right then and there.
I've also read that there have been issues in the past where people have bought a Nexus 6 elsewhere and when they came to Verizon to activate it, that Verizon turned them away and that it wasn't possible. Is this still happening ?
Lastly, if any of you have a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon:
- How has it held up to this point ?
- What are the different things Verizon has done to the phone that weren't there in the past ?
and any other advice you can give to me to make a good purchase decision.
I just want a smartphone that I can root, put roms on, experiment with on XDA, has near-vanilla android but also works with Verizon.
I apologize for such a long post and this is my first ever thread on XDA and i'm new so I hope you may bear with me. I just want to make sure I am giving enough information to where some of you guys can help get my questions answered so I won't resent purchasing a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon if I do.
Thank you very much for reading and helping if you choose to.
P.S. I'm unsure whether to post this in the General Forum for the Nexus 6 or the Help and Troubleshooting forum of the Nexus 6 . I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum.
Iandrew124 said:
I've been doing research for the past couple of days and I have seen that when the Nexus 6 came out that there were basically just 2 different models out. The International and the North American models. I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 from Verizon and I honestly can say that I just find TouchWiz ugly. I have rooted it but it was too late, the damage Verizon has done already left a huge enough impact that I am too afraid to put a rom on it in fear of the consequences. It was my first smartphone and I was happy with it when I first got it and now I am not to fond of it any longer. With the way Verizon's new plans are, I'm hoping of buying the Nexus 6 from them and slowly paying it off.
I apologize for long intro so i'll get to the point. I am curious about the differences of the Nexus 6 straight from Google and the Nexus 6 straight from the Verizon store if I buy it from them. I would prefer to buy straight from Verizon since I'm a college student and money is very tight and the slow payments seem to work out better in the long run even though I will be paying more if I buy it straight from Verizon. , but if getting the "clean" Nexus 6 is worth the better investment then i'll save up more money and pay for it all right then and there.
I've also read that there have been issues in the past where people have bought a Nexus 6 elsewhere and when they came to Verizon to activate it, that Verizon turned them away and that it wasn't possible. Is this still happening ?
Lastly, if any of you have a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon:
- How has it held up to this point ?
- What are the different things Verizon has done to the phone that weren't there in the past ?
and any other advice you can give to me to make a good purchase decision.
I just want a smartphone that I can root, put roms on, experiment with on XDA, has near-vanilla android but also works with Verizon.
I apologize for such a long post and this is my first ever thread on XDA and i'm new so I hope you may bear with me. I just want to make sure I am giving enough information to where some of you guys can help get my questions answered so I won't resent purchasing a Nexus 6 straight from Verizon if I do.
Thank you very much for reading and helping if you choose to.
P.S. I'm unsure whether to post this in the General Forum for the Nexus 6 or the Help and Troubleshooting forum of the Nexus 6 . I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum.
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I have a N6 I bought in March from Verizon and I love it. Other than the small Verizon branding on the back, and two Verizon apps pre-installed (My Verizon Mobile and Verizon Visual Voicemail), I don't believe there is anything different between it and a Google bought Nexus.
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The preinstalled apps can likely be uninstalled as they were probably pulled in automatically based on your SIM card. From what I've read, the shipping firmware is the same as the Play Store/Motorola model.
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Othoric said:
I have a N6 I bought in March from Verizon and I love it. Other than the small Verizon branding on the back, and two Verizon apps pre-installed (My Verizon Mobile and Verizon Visual Voicemail), I don't believe there is anything different between it and a Google bought Nexus.
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That's great to hear honestly. If there is no difference other than two Verizon apps then this is officially my first choice for when I get a new device with Verizon. I'm hoping I am smart enough to root it, flash Pure Nexus and make it my own.
Thank you for the response.
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The preinstalled apps can likely be uninstalled as they were probably pulled in automatically based on your SIM card. From what I've read, the shipping firmware is the same as the Play Store/Motorola model.
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That's also great to hear. Definitely going to get the Nexus 6 soon then once I can get a new phone. Getting really tired of my Galaxy S4.
I just bought a new 32gb unlocked blue nexus 6 at best buy today for $350 + tax
It was the best deal I could find. I traded in some games and got the total down to $317. The phone is amazing, I came from a verizon S5 and it was well worth the purchase not to see that TouchWiz **** all over my phone
Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
oneseeker said:
Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
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Yup. One of the few on Verizon you can have your way with. Can get device from anywhere. They all the same. Get whichever the cheapest and best warranty.
oneseeker said:
Thanks for starting this discussion. I have a GS5, and I'm fed up with the Verizon crap but it's the best network around where I live.
My question, can you root the N6 purchased from Verizon?
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Yep. 100% bootloader unlockable. I use wugs toolkit to unlock and flash custom recovery. Plus it's relockable if you need service.
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Yep. 100% bootloader unlockable. I use wugs toolkit to unlock and flash custom recovery. Plus it's relockable if you need service.
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What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
Iandrew124 said:
What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
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Service meaning repairs in case you have to send the phone in for some reason. It will work fine on Verizon. You can either activate it through Verizon and get a new SIM card or just switch an existing (already activated) nano SIM from an existing Verizon device into your new Nexus 6. Either method works fine.
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Service meaning repairs in case you have to send the phone in for some reason. It will work fine on Verizon. You can either activate it through Verizon and get a new SIM card or just switch an existing (already activated) nano SIM from an existing Verizon device into your new Nexus 6. Either method works fine.
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Oh ! Okay, I see. Thank you.
On the best buy website it says its doesnt support CDMA but thanks for telling me otherwise. It gives me hope that I can get a decent phone for cheap and love it.
Iandrew124 said:
What do you mean re-lockable if I need service?
Does anyone know if I can buy the Nexus 6 (unlocked) from Best Buy with the special they are having right now and use it on Verizon ? I was going to wait for 2 months to get an early upgrade by turning my phone in and getting the Nexus 6 but if I can buy it for 350 right now then I definitely want to jump on it. I am just curious if I can buy it from Best Buy and use it on Verizon without any issues. If I do buy it then what do I need to do in order to make it work with Verizon ?
I really want a phone I can root easily, flash roms and experiment with. The Nexus 6 seems like the perfect device and with it at $350 right now, its a steal !
Does anyone know if this is just a special and for how long ? Or is it indefinitely?
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$350-399 the going rate now. They on clearance for the new ones probably in November. Best Buy will match Internet price. So as long as Amazon and others have that price can just tell them and they will look it up on their PC. If you have a Verizon nano sim can just pop it in. They have the IEMIs now so they can activate for you. Shouldn't have a problem. I cut down my micro sim to fit before they would activate them.
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Forgot to address your first question. There are 2 unlocks. Carrier and bootloader. Previous poster was referring to bootloader unlock. They are all carrier unlocked except for ATT. ATT requires to pay for the device in full and be active on their service for 30 days before can use another sim. Bootloader unlock is for modding. We unlock the bootloader and if need to send for warranty we put back to stock and locked.
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Best Buy will match Internet price. So as long as Amazon and others have that price can just tell them and they will look it up on their PC. If you have a Verizon nano sim can just pop it in. They have the IEMIs now so they can activate for you. Shouldn't have a problem. I cut down my micro sim to fit before they would activate them.
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Forgot to address your first question. There are 2 unlocks. Carrier and bootloader. Previous poster was referring to bootloader unlock. They are all carrier unlocked except for ATT. ATT requires to pay for the device in full and be active on their service for 30 days before can use another sim. Bootloader unlock is for modding. We unlock the bootloader and if need to send for warranty we put back to stock and locked.
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This answers similar question I've had since I have Verizon as my carrier. I found some good deals on swappa, and wondered if I got one from there, if I'd be able use it on Verizon.
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Beej1970 said:
This answers similar question I've had since I have Verizon as my carrier. I found some good deals on swappa, and wondered if I got one from there, if I'd be able use it on Verizon.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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I'm sorry but what is "NA version"?
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Beej1970 said:
I'm sorry but what is "NA version"?
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North American. US and Canada. I looked on Swappa. They need to adjust their prices as the Market price decreases. They too high if can get new in box with full warranty for $350.
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You can use any on any carrier unless it is the ATT carrier locked. Also has to be NA version. Not International. I got Google version on Verizon. Everything works including tether on my Unlimited Data Plan.
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Wait, so the International one's won't work with Verizon? The one Best Buy is selling on clearance is the GSM International model. So even though its an amazing deal, It won't work with Verizon because its the International model ?
Iandrew124 said:
Wait, so the International one's won't work with Verizon? The one Best Buy is selling on clearance is the GSM International model. So even though its an amazing deal, It won't work with Verizon because its the International model ?
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The US model is XT1103, which is what Best Buy should stock, and it will work on any US carrier. The XT1100 is the International model and would only work on AT&T/T-Mobile in the US (or any carrier that uses their network) as it doesn't have all the necessary bands for other carriers. Most places don't even carry the International model for sale in the US.
imnuts said:
The US model is XT1103, which is what Best Buy should stock, and it will work on any US carrier. The XT1100 is the International model and would only work on AT&T/T-Mobile in the US (or any carrier that uses their network) as it doesn't have all the necessary bands for other carriers. Most places don't even carry the International model for sale in the US.
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Okay, that helped clear up some questions I was having. Thank you. I guess its time to go buy that sweet Nexus 6 once I get my check. Ugh, i can't wait.
If you had to recommend a phone for a beginner who wants to root, put roms on his device and experiment with it, what would you recommend to them ?
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
Limeybastard said:
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
No real cons for grabbing the unlocked version other than native video calling will not work on the unlocked version. Promptness of updates from T-Mobile vs Samsung direct is also something to consider. I'm speaking from the point of view of a stock T-Mobile N8 vs an unlocked N8.
ggrant3876 said:
I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
pros are the discount but you can also buy the tmo variant from Samsung as well. I almost bought an unlocked one from Samsung but I found out if you buy the carrier variant from Samsung, Tmobile can unlock from the day you receive it even if its financed through Samsung. Now I am betting it will be like s7 and s8 to where you can odin/adb the unlocked firmware onto the tmo device to get rid of the carrier bloat.
now the unlocked normally doesn't mean that much to me because I plan on staying with TMO anyway but I really want a Deep sea blue when it becomes available so I need to resell the one o have. I would wait until the blue is released but I cant pass up the note 7 discount. since I can unlock the TMO device on day 1, it will be easier to sell when it comes to that point. I believe all the snap dragon phones are built the same just have different software per carrier. so If my TMO device is sim unlocked, I can flash the stock Verizon firmware and will look/work just like a stock Verizon device(lte bands, apps etc).
Limeybastard said:
I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
harveydent said:
If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
Limeybastard said:
I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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I was just reading that thread on slickdeals, damn got a head ache reading that . I was considering getting an iphone for trade in or a GS5, but aint worth the hassles or risks for me.:silly:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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The US (SIM) Unlocked version, is Qualcomm Snapdragon powered.
Sent from my Samsung SM-N935S using XDA Labs
Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
DMK1111 said:
Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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My wife got her note 8 two days ago. I like it but I have a Pixel XL and have all my custom stuff on it. We were both victims of the Note 7 fiasco! She went iPhone 7 I went Pixel. She hates her iPhone so jumped on the note 8... Bouncing all over the house all happy again. They offered us $400.00 off if we turn in a phone like I have a Galaxy 5 I can still keep my pixel and get the note 8 so I might just do it.
Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
RiffyDivine said:
Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
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i might be wrong as i live in the UK, but an unlocked one from best buy will be no better off to root than the tmobile one?
the "unlocked" does not mean the bootloader is unlocked
both are snapdragon correct? There is a root available but i would recommend you buy an N950F or FD (Exynos) if your main focus is root and custom roms.
Lucky you! I would get just one
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i might be wrong as i live in the UK, but an unlocked one from best buy will be no better off to root than the tmobile one?
the "unlocked" does not mean the bootloader is unlocked
both are snapdragon correct? There is a root available but i would recommend you buy an N950F or FD (Exynos) if your main focus is root and custom roms.
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It's listed with the exynos but that maybe an error on their site.
First of all BOGO deal has some restrictions, not every plan qualifies, you should really read fine print, or head to Tmo forum and look there for details. I also don't think BB would be selling phone that doesn't work on half of US networks, so make sure you make your decisions based on correct info.
T mobile has a lot of stipulations with the BOGO. I purchased a t mobile variant directly from Samsung. They have a finance program 0% for 24 months. I also had a note 7 so I was able to get a nice discount as well. I almost went with an unlocked from Samsung(same as best buy) but I wanted all my carrier features. Plus since I bought the phone from Samsung, I was able to SIM unlock my t mobile note 8 within days of receiving it. Plus if I really wanted, I could always flash the unlocked firmware on to this device if I wanted it De bloated which I might end up doing. I use video calling a lot with my family and it doesn't worked on the Unlocked firmware but I recently started using google DUO which is way better video calling quality anyway. I know using t mobile on the unlocked firmware, WI fi calling, VOLTE hd voice does work which is the most important to me. I'm pretty sure mobile hotspot works as well but not sure.
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Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
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You have to jump through hoops for T-Mobile's BOGO, if you can wait Samsung will have a BOGO for the Note 8 just like they did for the S8+ and you won't have to add a line like the T-Mobile.