AT&T S5 mini G800A bettery battery and root alternative - Galaxy S5 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

All credit goes to Gatesjunior for his Debloater method.
Summary:
I bought an S4 mini i257 and struggled with major battery drain issues. A couple days ago I snagged a killer deal on an S5 mini G800A on ebay and again, with the ATT bloat battery life is awful. In my quest to find a currently non-existent root and ROM solution for the G800A I found the debloater by GatesJunior. This app allows you to disable or they call it "block" apps from running completely in the Kitkat G800A. He did a great write up and I had no problems getting this to work on my S5 mini ATT.
I created this thread so people could post lists of what apps they have disabled and how much better their experience has become on their G800A devices. Please read all the precautions associated with this method to avoid bricking your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
My battery life has tripled by demoving what I deamed to be untrustworthy and unwanted apps. A quick search for _ATT will yield a healthy amount of the carrier bloat. Take your time and be careful and thurough disabling apps. If you are unsure of its effect it's probably best to leave it alone until you can research it. After I've had a little more time to tweak and tune my device I'll post my personal configuration.
Thanks!

After two months with this device I'm moving on (or back to my old note 2... for now.) It's so painful to use with the stock rom even debloated with the method outlined above. I honestly want to sledge hammer this phone to get out my frustrations rather than sell it to some poor soul. With just my most critical apps installed and no social media garbage battery life is once again dismal at best. It takes forever and then wait even longer to take a picture (5-10 seconds.) With no support in the forums for different roms or bootloader unlocking , only a paid root option that I'm aware of, I'm chocking the purchase of my ATT s5 mini up to a failure. For those looking at this device, like so many others in the forums here recommend.. Your money will be better spent elsewhere then on this ATT model s5 mini.
Can't win em' all. The take away here is to never buy another device you plan to mod without making sure the community is behind it first.

sledwrecker said:
After two months with this device I'm moving on (or back to my old note 2... for now.) It's so painful to use with the stock rom even debloated with the method outlined above. I honestly want to sledge hammer this phone to get out my frustrations rather than sell it to some poor soul. With just my most critical apps installed and no social media garbage battery life is once again dismal at best. It takes forever and then wait even longer to take a picture (5-10 seconds.) With no support in the forums for different roms or bootloader unlocking , only a paid root option that I'm aware of, I'm chocking the purchase of my ATT s5 mini up to a failure. For those looking at this device, like so many others in the forums here recommend.. Your money will be better spent elsewhere then on this ATT model s5 mini.
Can't win em' all. The take away here is to never buy another device you plan to mod without making sure the community is behind it first.
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Well my G800H battery life is great
i can use it for 6 hours wifi and some gaming after a full charge
it takes 2 hours to charge from 3 to 100
and when locking it it lose one 1% every 15 hours
so i thing your battery itself is the problem

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How I managed to reduce lag - for inexperienced users

The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Sensors You're not Using
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates - new users may not know to check this application for system updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates.
Hippoman13 said:
The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Unnecessary Sensors
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates. Samsung is known for laggy launch software and that is what we're dealing with, folks.
I would appreciate feedback and input.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new SamsungĀ® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
This is a good guide and starting point, thank you for taking the time to post it here. As always, other users should take all guides as such; a starting point to customize "your" rig for what "you" use. Take what you like and leave the rest aside. :good:
S6 making more problems than S5
My S5 Goes better then the s6 Egde
I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
eortizr said:
I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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Yay for you. Who cares?
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Well the M9 display and camera are quite poor compared to the S6 and iPhone. It's really unfortunate.
The new iPhone is only 5 months away, so enjoy your phone while it's relevant. I've played around with iOS 8.3 and it really is killer, I just don't like iPhones lol.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new SamsungĀ® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You're joking, right?
Many bloat apps run in the background and consume CPU and RAM. They don't just sit there dormant in the storage.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You are an idiot.... Because on physical disk drives (HDD's not SSD's) being fuller does mean slower. That is that the drive will take longer to seek data as the way that the disk writes/reads data it would have to move the heads back an forth much further/more often. as I drive gets fuller it also fragments data more often. his is why a SSD is superior at seek times as it does not have to seek data on a physical level, especially as they get closer to full utilization of capacity.
Beyond that, a HDD writes from outside edge of the disk inward. This is because at the same rpm, each revolution that the disk makes it is able to pull more data on the outside of the disk than the inside. Density of data is uniform so it simply passes more data. Think of a car that has a tiny (diameter) tire vs a large one (same car). At the same rpms in a given gear, the large diameter tire will be moving faster. Why? The outside edge has a higher velocity than the inside of the tire as it spins. The further a spinning object reaches from center, the faster it will be spinning at an outside edge vs inner.
I agree this guide is bs...Just as your understanding of computer storage architecture is.
There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
brushrop03 said:
There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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Yeah the battery has been a disappointment so far coming from the g3... but I only had the g3 for a month and had a nexus 5 for a year before that so I'm kinda used to it. Still a buzzkill tho
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
This is honestly so dumb. There is no lag...
DigitalUnderground said:
I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
brushrop03 said:
I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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I've never replaced a battery in any phone I've had and I don't use microsd so I actually like the device being sealed. It adds to the build quality and the sturdiness. You couldn't have the glass back if it was removable

Hey Note Owners.. talk me out of buying

I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!
The note 5 will work well for most of your needs. But I'm not sure about custom roms though. I'm not sure about the future but right now, development is slow. There is one custom rom at the moment it looks like for sprint. Something like the moto x or the next nexus may be better if development is important to you since they should work across all carriers. The exynos processor and multiple carrier versions will hurt development. But camera and battery life have been amazing (for me at least, some may disagree).
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The new z5 premium also looks nice (will it work on Sprint?)
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I won't talk you out of buying a Note 5, simply because this is the best phone I have ever owned.
The camera, the hardware, the speed, the customization, the sound coming through headphones, the call quality, the battery life, and dat S PEN! Well worth my upgrade and money.
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The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.
zags14 said:
I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!
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Get a note 4..... If you can find one
dikidera said:
The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.
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That issue is 100% user error. I'm not worried about that
ryanalan82 said:
Get a note 4..... If you can find one
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As I said, I want to take advantage of my upgrade discount so I can't get a note 4. I could find one, but I would be paying 400$+ as opposed to the 250$ i can get the note5 from Sprint for.
oy yes TW, lag and very few custom roms.
My old phone was also a Galaxy S4. I used my upgrade to get the Note 5 and couldn't be happier. To be honest on Sprint the Note 5 is probably the best phone you can get
well...something to consider before buying..the AT&T and verizon variants come with locked bootloaders...
if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.
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There is actually a feature on the device that lets you slide a keyboard to the side for smaller hands. They were thinking of you and people who text and drive
I had it all...all s series and note series and i was a litle sceptic about removing sd and battery but now I have note 5 in my hands and I have to say it is the BEST phone I had and I had it all and I am from EUROPE
I swore myself off TouchWiz after I owned my S4, it was my least favorite android phone. But after I had a really bad experience with the LG G4, I returned it and swapped it for a Note 5. Absolutely loving this phone. Never have had a phone this snappy even after loading it up with all my apps etc. I always notice that out of the box phones are great, and invariably after a week of use they bog down... Not this thing. Software is way toned down as far as TouchWiz is concerned. The S Pen is a pretty great touch. After having it, I realize if you're going to have a large device, might as well maximize functionality and have a stylus and some decent software to go along with it. I give this phone a solid 9/10, 9 because of the no expandable memory but really is a moot point with cloud storage being so good these days, and free. Also, if you're looking to flash custom stuff, consider that Knox will trip and you'll lose out on Samsung pay and other features requiring intact security flag. Definitely cruise over to the Note 5 sprint development page to see what's available before making a jump.
Really I don't think you can go wrong with this device. It's very well done, and has a very premium feel for a device, a first for Samsung... Finally I feel like I'm getting what I pay for
Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.
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Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.
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I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.
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I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.
IAmPears said:
I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.
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Bro, something is wrong. It's either verizon royally screwed something up in their software or you have a defective phone. No joke.
My Note 5 sips battery and all I did was disable all the AT&T bloatware, I didn't even use that app. I am consistently getting 20-25 hours off the charger and 5-8 hours of screen on time. I'm not over exaggerating either.
Losing 75% in 3 hours of not doing much is definitely a problem. I would see if other verizon users are experiencing the same. If not, I would exchange it for a new one unless you are already hell bent on getting the iPhone.
Good luck!
I purchased the Package Disabler Pro app a few hours ago, I'll let you know how it goes on my end. Im on a Verizon Note 5
hunsinger89 said:
There is actually a feature on the device that lets you slide a keyboard to the side for smaller hands. They were thinking of you and people who text and drive
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Hahaha damn got caught.

How do I get back data toggle from quick panel

I recently updated to marshmallow and I noticed that data toggle is missing from the quick panel. I was using a custom rom before so I didn't notice it before.
I've tried using sqlite editor but it seems that no one works on marshmallow. Alays telling me error when I try to edit the settings.db file.
I'd very much like any alternative method to do this
the settings.db file isn't there like it's supposed to be. either samsung moved it, or hid it intentionally. hopefullt one of our super devs will find it or workaround. it is nice to have when you need to save some battery. otherwise i don't use it often. i turn it off in highly congested areas when i don't need my phone usually or trying to irk out all the battery life i can when i know it will be awhile before i can charge again. but i have 3 batteries. about 33,000mah between all 3 of them. with efficiency losses that is still well over 20,000mah useable good for a minimum 5 charges at worst.
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the settings.db file isn't there like it's supposed to be. either samsung moved it, or hid it intentionally. hopefullt one of our super devs will find it or workaround. it is nice to have when you need to save some battery. otherwise i don't use it often. i turn it off in highly congested areas when i don't need my phone usually or trying to irk out all the battery life i can when i know it will be awhile before i can charge again. but i have 3 batteries. about 33,000mah between all 3 of them. with efficiency losses that is still well over 20,000mah useable good for a minimum 5 charges at worst.
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Samsung changed a few different things regarding this MM update, always making things a bit difficult for us... I really don't understand why they give an efffff what we do to our devices... glad they didn't lock our bootloaders like the s7 series.... we will see what they do with the Note 7.. they will loose a lot of sales with people who want to root there devices, my main thing is to remove a few unwanted files, and the MAIN REASON is the darn ad's on all the apps.. that is so annoying, I haven't had add for years... some apps are not being blocked, hmmmm but 1 or 2 are ok I guess.
Yeah. Don't know what the hell those Koreans are thinking over there. I was considering getting a F model note because of the locked bootloaders and exynos being noticeably more battery friendly than snap820. Waiting for announcements. Only dual curved note7? No thanks. Gimmick. And for somebody trying to get into VR business that is lost resolution and color warping when put in a visor.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.

Rom suggestion for battery life, low (no?) bloat, low maintenance?

I had been babying my TMo S6 for over a year now in the hope that I could sell it for a decent amount in the used market. I was holding off on rooting since I didn't want to trip KNOX and possibly lower resale value, but unfortunately the back screen cracked on a camping trip last weekend so there's nothing holding me back from root.
I used to be heavy into the ROM/XDA scene since way back with an HTC Evo 4G (everyone remember WiMAX? heh...), but life got busy and I just don't have time to flash, tweak, and softbrick phones anymore. Can anyone suggest a good ROM/Kernel combo that's got good battery life (>2Hr SoT, unlike my stock ~1hr :crying, non-bloaty, and preferably low maintenance where everything "just works" without having to continuously tweak the setup? I know I'll lose Samsung Pay to KNOX but I've never used it so I'm not worried. I promise I've perused the development forums and seen a few of the bigger ROM threads, but I'm so far out of the loop I don't even know where to start.
Caanon said:
I had been babying my TMo S6 for over a year now in the hope that I could sell it for a decent amount in the used market. I was holding off on rooting since I didn't want to trip KNOX and possibly lower resale value, but unfortunately the back screen cracked on a camping trip last weekend so there's nothing holding me back from root.
I used to be heavy into the ROM/XDA scene since way back with an HTC Evo 4G (everyone remember WiMAX? heh...), but life got busy and I just don't have time to flash, tweak, and softbrick phones anymore. Can anyone suggest a good ROM/Kernel combo that's got good battery life (>2Hr SoT, unlike my stock ~1hr :crying, non-bloaty, and preferably low maintenance where everything "just works" without having to continuously tweak the setup? I know I'll lose Samsung Pay to KNOX but I've never used it so I'm not worried. I promise I've perused the development forums and seen a few of the bigger ROM threads, but I'm so far out of the loop I don't even know where to start.
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You don't need a Rom. You can run stock. So long as you're rooted you can install Deep Sleep Battery saver to manage your battery when screen is off. You can install Titanium Backup to either freeze or delete bloat apps.
If you want further batter tweaks via a custom kernel I recommend Twisted V8.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...nels-twisted-kernel-6-0-1-mm-5-11-16-t3377283
Xtrestolite
Xtrestolite and arter97 kernel is the best combo that I have used. Fully debloated, fast, and great battery life without having to make any additional tweaks to make it run right. I've tried many other combinations and that combo by far is the best that I have used. And there is a way to root without tripping Knox if that if still a concern of yours. Just search it on this website. Good luck.
Caanon said:
I had been babying my TMo S6 for over a year now in the hope that I could sell it for a decent amount in the used market. I was holding off on rooting since I didn't want to trip KNOX and possibly lower resale value, but unfortunately the back screen cracked on a camping trip last weekend so there's nothing holding me back from root.
I used to be heavy into the ROM/XDA scene since way back with an HTC Evo 4G (everyone remember WiMAX? heh...), but life got busy and I just don't have time to flash, tweak, and softbrick phones anymore. Can anyone suggest a good ROM/Kernel combo that's got good battery life (>2Hr SoT, unlike my stock ~1hr :crying, non-bloaty, and preferably low maintenance where everything "just works" without having to continuously tweak the setup? I know I'll lose Samsung Pay to KNOX but I've never used it so I'm not worried. I promise I've perused the development forums and seen a few of the bigger ROM threads, but I'm so far out of the loop I don't even know where to start.
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Questions belong in the Help section, not General.
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64Gb Note 5 - N920A - Input Needed

I have recently acquired an ATT Note 5 (N920A). I paid $200. (64Gb variant). Good price??
So far, I tried making calls and browsing the internet using an ATT SIM without issues.
ROM on the phone is 6.0.1 with an update in October 2016.
Can this phone be unlocked to use on a different carrier than ATT?
Can this phone be rooted? I'd like to be able to remove the ATT Bloatware.
My apologies if this was already answered .
Thanks
You can unlock the phone, but you can't root due to the locked bootloader.
Thanks for your response.
Any recommendation as to where I can get this phone unlocked??
AT&T Unlock just means you can move it another carrier it doesn't mean you can unlock the bootloader to install a custom firmware, or even another official one. You are locked into the AT&T firmware and the only way that will ever change is if you stop updating and a security flaw is realized which allows us to replace the bootloader. As it stands if you actually did get root your phone wouldn't boot. Depending what you do to it the Note 5 will turn on/off really fast. (They did a great job locking it down)
Yeah 200 bucks for that phone with package disabler is a great deal. They are working on Nougat but I will not update because I want to hold out on Nov. Security patch in the hopes I can downgrade, remove bloatware, or even better install twrp someday.
As it stands we are locked down. As always if root/custom roms are important you shoudn't update but the Note 5 never even made it to custom rom while on 5.11 so the chances aren't looking spectactular that we will conquer this in the life of the phone.
Edited: Just gave the info and lost the attitude toward AT&T
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the firmware is absolutely horrible
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I disagree. I've been able to disable the AT&T stuff using package disabler. I don't see any evidence of my phone being an AT&T model other than the boot screen and when I attempt to search for a OTA update. I like the battery life of my N920A (coming from my battery-draining TMobile Note4). Once I leave my phone in power saver mode and close or uninstall apps that I don't need, I'm good. I get 13 hours battery life (the most) and 5.5 hours of on screen time.
I can do 4 hours of Youtube and 4.7 hours of watching movies on my internal storage.
Edit: Samsung locking down boot-loaders will ensure Apple's consistency in terms of the eco systems for application security (such as Samsung/ Google Pay) , battery life and system performance.
I edited my post before your response to lighten up on AT&T a little. I do not like AT&T at all but that has little to do with this persons question.
I noticed also that when I use package disabler I get much of my battery life back. While I realize that is perfectly good enough for most people I am not happy with that. I made a mistake when I purchased my phone as I didn't research how locked down it was during the grace period. I realize this is my fault and that my mistake was purchasing through AT&T when what I really wanted was freedom of true choice. Obviously I am not a majority. But for others who are very interested in even the possibility of a custom rom I think it's imperative to know the entire story.

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