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Is rooting really that good?

I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One

Well it's like anything. If you don't know why you need something you probably don't need it
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bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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the phone never come unrooted .. you never had root installed properly
when it's flashed correctly from recovery it will not just go away
http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU
Flash that from recovery and you'll be rooted

I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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bloodyniceben said:
I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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This is a rom issue not a root issue. Could have also been an issue with the kernel. To be honest if you dont really use the root functions then there maybe no need for you to have it. To be honest most people dont really need root. They just wanna seem cool with some things they can show off on their device instead of using it for anything important or handy. I would advice to judge for yourself. Take the extra options/security risk and weigh it against remaining stock which has less options/secure.

I agree with the previous post, if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it. As far as SuperSu disappearing, it sounds like either you didn't install it correctly or something changed. The ideal way to install SuperSu is to install via the recovery. And even so, if you reinstall your OS, you will need to reinstall SuperSu. Software does not simply disappear, something had to be done to hasten it's departure. An easy fix to your issue would have been to download the SuperSu zip package from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu, and install it via your recovery. What I personally don't like about locking a bootloader is that now it says TAMPERED at the top of the screen.

Your issues seem to be with the restoring to stock process which HTC do make a bit convoluted, triggered by the root error not rooting itself.
Now to answer your question: My main reason for rooting is I want to take fine grained backups. Second is lots of clever people have come up with mods and improvements I like to install over the stock Sense ROM.
If you don't need anything that needs root, no need to root. Simple as that.

bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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if you want RUU search @ htc1guru.com with firmware/software version
flash same firmware again + flash custom recovery + flash SuperSu it will resolve your problem

[Q] S5 Stuck at Boot Animation With Blue LED After Stock Flash

I searched and found nothing exactly like what I was experiencing and nothing I hadn't already tried. Hopefully someone has seen this before. I HAD a nice rooted stock SM-G900A 4.4.4 and now I have a flashy gold brick (soft). I rooted by downgrading the kernel to use towelroot then flashed stock kernel back. Everything worked fine for about a week or so. I'm not sure at what point I started having issues exactly so I'm not sure if an app or mild mod could have caused my issues. The only thing I had done was use SuperSU to block Knox and change the terrible TW stock sounds to standard ogg clicks and what not. The trouble started with the camera. I opened my camera and the screen would flash green then I would have red ghost images in a pattern on the screen. The pictures I took had the same effect when viewed in the gallery. If I switched modes the problem would go away with the camera until I closed then opened the camera app again so I assumed it was a software rather than hardware problem. I couldn't find any info on a fix so I did a factory reset. The problem persisted. I decided finally to flash back to stock. That's when it really got bad. After flashing to stock the phone will boot to the Samsung animation with the swoosh, freeze there for a few seconds without completing the boot animation then the screen shuts off and the phone becomes unresponsive. The only signs of life is the blue LED is constant lit. I have to do a battery pull to start over. I have flashed just the PDA and I have flashed the whole shootin match (except for BL) and I get the same results. I have tried stock tar files from a couple different sources. It will go into download mode as well as stock recovery where I tried a factory reset after flashing. PLEASE HELP!

So I flashed OA1 stock kernel and got it to boot. Of course now I get the Update interrupted message when I try for the OTA to anything newer than the 4.4.2 it's running. And after 8 hours of messing with this gem the camera issue persists.

Acer904 said:
So I flashed OA1 stock kernel and got it to boot. Of course now I get the Update interrupted message when I try for the OTA to anything newer than the 4.4.2 it's running. And after 8 hours of messing with this gem the camera issue persists.
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Go here and flash back to NCE. Then take the OTAs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60012961
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A

That is what I ended up doing just an hour before your reply and all is well again. I suppose my first attempt to go back to NCE didn't work because I didn't use the downgrade flash, just a regular 4.4.2 stock. There must be a difference between the two. The OTAs still wouldn't work so I ended up installing the updates from external sd. The lollipop OTA is downloading fine though. Thanks for confirming I FINALLY went the right route. This root screw up wasn't as bad as my last (efs S3 debacle) but it still took too many hours to fix.

Acer904 said:
That is what I ended up doing just an hour before your reply and all is well again. I suppose my first attempt to go back to NCE didn't work because I didn't use the downgrade flash, just a regular 4.4.2 stock. There must be a difference between the two. The OTAs still wouldn't work so I ended up installing the updates from external sd. The lollipop OTA is downloading fine though. Thanks for confirming I FINALLY went the right route. This root screw up wasn't as bad as my last (efs S3 debacle) but it still took too many hours to fix.
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If you take the 5.0 ota you won't be able to root. Just FYI. There is no root for it yet. There is a pay however in the general section on how to upgrade to 5.0 and keep root.

Stock, Rooted 5.0.1 - Horribly Slow.

I am running stock 5.0.1 on my T-Mo Note 4, and the things horribly, awfully slow. It's glitchier than ever too. It randomly restarts and sometimes it's so slow my screen turns off before a menu appears after I click it. Also my phone reboots randomly! It's like a soft reboot, once it turns back on, I'm right where I left off.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I really wanted Lollipop but this is just the worst thing I have ever seen.
Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to the whole scene, but I got TWRP recovery installed, I know how to flash with odin (already bricked and un bricked my phone).
I miss Xposed, but the new xposed with lollipop and Touchwiz set up seems extremely daunting.
So my question is, should I go back to stock kitkat so I can use Xposed again, or is there a better custom rom?? I tried alliance, which really intrigued me but it got stuck at the boot screen (surprise).

I'd flash pop rocks 7x. Mega is doing an amazing job with issues such as yours. And you can run xposed with it.
Just follow the instructions in the op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3096286
It's the first rom I flash for people. It's a great way to start and often my dd.

Wifi calling for 5.0.1 is super glitchy, every morning I wake up and wifi calling has reg99 or 82 error. Is there a ROM with working wifi calling and stable. Would like the double tap to wake option if there is such a rom for the tmobile note 4.

DaltonMplz said:
I am running stock 5.0.1 on my T-Mo Note 4, and the things horribly, awfully slow. It's glitchier than ever too. It randomly restarts and sometimes it's so slow my screen turns off before a menu appears after I click it. Also my phone reboots randomly! It's like a soft reboot, once it turns back on, I'm right where I left off.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I really wanted Lollipop but this is just the worst thing I have ever seen.
Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to the whole scene, but I got TWRP recovery installed, I know how to flash with odin (already bricked and un bricked my phone).
I miss Xposed, but the new xposed with lollipop and Touchwiz set up seems extremely daunting.
So my question is, should I go back to stock kitkat so I can use Xposed again, or is there a better custom rom?? I tried alliance, which really intrigued me but it got stuck at the boot screen (surprise).
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From battery to boot its all about a custom kernal in my opinion.
@jovy23 has a killler rom for the N4 Tmo. DarthStalker V2
If you wipe properly using twrp.
And flash emotion kern R16.
With synapse controller app.[emoji106]
Youll be blown away.[emoji41]
Even stock its one of the Most loaded and clean running Roms out on the market...
Nice built in themes as well..
If youd like to know good flashing procedures hit me on the Pm..
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Flashvetrin

Flashvetrin said:
From battery to boot its all about a custom kernal in my opinion.
@jovy23 has a killler rom for the N4 Tmo. DarthStalker V2
If you wipe properly using twrp.
And flash emotion kern R16.
With synapse controller app.[emoji106]
Youll be blown away.[emoji41]
Even stock its one of the Most loaded and clean running Roms out on the market...
Nice built in themes as well..
If youd like to know good flashing procedures hit me on the Pm..
[emoji16]
Flashvetrin
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Agreed. He just released a new version 18, but the wifi calling is still under construction and working on r16

Random reboots after flashing Root Debloated

My wife and I both have H811 G4s. I've gone through and rooted both of our phones with Low Effort, flashed twrp, debloated, updated to 10n debloated. Everything has been great until last week. My wifes phone started randomly rebooting. It's actually random. I can't find anything consistent. I removed apps with updates, factory reset and it would reboot during the setup wizard. Yesterday I did a full return to stock 10n, and it behaved all day.
Today I try to root with the 10n debloat , and now it's rebooting again. I have a hard time thinking it's bad hardware as the full stock works fine, and with it not rebooting on stock how would I prove it for the replacement?
What else can I check or do to fix this, and why is it only happening to one of the phones?

Bad download.
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MicroMod777 said:
Bad download.
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Good idea, but I've used the same file on multiple phones without issue. It's only the one device having problems. Also the md5 matches, just double checked.
As I work my way backwards I'm pretty sure this it turning into failed hardware. I've had it reboot a few times on stock during the setup wizard. But it's nowhere as frequent as the rooted roms.

Nexus 6 shows 4,000% battery life after root?

I got my Nexus 6P for Christmas, and I decided to root my Motorola Nexus 6 from last year. I've been waiting to do this for a few months, and was excited to finally enable several of the options I couldn't otherwise enable (such as double tap to wake and auto rotate on the lock screen and Google Now launcher). About an hour ago I got around to rooting and done so with little issues. It's been a little under an hour since I rooted, and I just now noticed that the battery life is being displayed as having over 4,000% charge. I rooted following the steps in a YouTube video by DroidModderX and the device is running perfectly fine. The device hasn't died yet, and I'll be interested to see when it will die. The battery life seems to fluctuate between 4,001% and 4,204% (Those two figures being the highest and lowest figures respectively). Rebooting does not fix this error.
I know it's not a massive problem, but I'd like to know what's causing this issue and how to resolve it. I haven't flashed any custom OS's on my phone, I'm still running stock Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow with the latest December security patches. The device is carrier unlocked also. How can I fix this?
Thanks,
Eamonn.

sonic2kk said:
It's been a little under an hour since I rooted, and I just now noticed that the battery life is being displayed as having over 4,000% charge. being the highest and lowest figures respectively). Rebooting does not fix this error.
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You need to use updated root files. The battery issue arises when you're on 6.0.1 but aren't using the right file version. Easily fixed not to worry, just re-root with updated files and it will resolve with no lasting harm.

sansnil said:
You need to use updated root files. The battery issue arises when you're on 6.0.1 but aren't using the right file version. Easily fixed not to worry, just re-root with updated files and it will resolve with no lasting harm.
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Ah, thank goodness. I'll re-root tomorrow and post back if I have any problems. Thanks!

Thanks, that fixed the issue. I re-rooted and everything is working fine. I flashed the ElementalX kernel. However on boot I now get a warning with a red triangle saying "Your device is corrupt. It cannot be trusted and may not work properly". This warning goes away, and the phone proceeds to boot up successfully. Everything on the device works perfectly fine with no issues. I am successfully rooted running Android Marshmallow 6.0.1, but this screen scares me somewhat. I rooted my Galaxy SII and I have a yellow triangle on boot but only on the Samsung splash screen. Is this something new in Android M or something unique to Nexus devices? I researched this a bit and found one post on Reddit that said this happened in the M previews, and that it was nothing to be concerned about. Is there a way to remove this screen, or is it just like the yellow triangle on the SII? Should I even be concerned with this, or is it something to just dismiss? Is my device at risk any more than normal when rooting, and have I done something wrong? I'm a bit of a newbie at the rooting stuff, but I intend to use my Nexus 6 and SII to learn more about it (and my 6P way into the future, once I get a new phone).
Thanks in advance.

Why did you need root for the Google now launcher?

mikeprius said:
Why did you need root for the Google now launcher?
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What do you mean? I can run the Google Now launcher perfectly fine. Root works fine as well. The problem isn't with the Google Now launcher but with the warning on boot. I didn't need to root, I chose to. Am I misunderstanding?

Your original post made it seem like you need root for double tap to wake and Google now launcher.

sonic2kk said:
Thanks, that fixed the issue. I re-rooted and everything is working fine. I flashed the ElementalX kernel. However on boot I now get a warning with a red triangle saying "Your device is corrupt. It cannot be trusted and may not work properly". This warning goes away, and the phone proceeds to boot up successfully. Everything on the device works perfectly fine with no issues. I am successfully rooted running Android Marshmallow 6.0.1, but this screen scares me somewhat. I rooted my Galaxy SII and I have a yellow triangle on boot but only on the Samsung splash screen. Is this something new in Android M or something unique to Nexus devices? I researched this a bit and found one post on Reddit that said this happened in the M previews, and that it was nothing to be concerned about. Is there a way to remove this screen, or is it just like the yellow triangle on the SII? Should I even be concerned with this, or is it something to just dismiss? Is my device at risk any more than normal when rooting, and have I done something wrong? I'm a bit of a newbie at the rooting stuff, but I intend to use my Nexus 6 and SII to learn more about it (and my 6P way into the future, once I get a new phone).
Thanks in advance.
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087021512 gives you 6.0.1 bootstack for Nexus 6 (shamu). Flash this in TWRP. This should fix your corrupted boot splash screen. It's new in Android M when you've installed custom kernel and/or roms. It does not hurt anything except Android Pay is unlikely to work once rooted.
EDIT: I forgot to included mmb29k, non-encrypt boot.img made by GerardF: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24340319927534323 (flash this also after you flash the bootstack).

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(removed url) gives you 6.0.1 bootstack for Nexus 6 (shamu). Flash this in TWRP. This should fix your corrupted boot splash screen. It's new in Android M when you've installed custom kernel and/or roms. It does not hurt anything except Android Pay is unlikely to work once rooted.
EDIT: I forgot to included mmb29k, non-encrypt boot.img made by GerardF: (removed url) (flash this also after you flash the bootstack).
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Worked perfect. That got rid of the corrupt message. One last question: (This is the last one, I swear! ) Are you saying that Android Pay won't work at all after rooting or that it wouldn't have worked if that screen had have appeared on boot? I hope to use the service if and when it comes to the UK.
mikeprius said:
Your original post made it seem like you need root for double tap to wake and Google now launcher.
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Ah, sorry for the confusion my friend ?

I would have kept it at 4,000% - that's like 2 weeks of battery life with no charge...

orangekid said:
I would have kept it at 4,000% - that's like 2 weeks of battery life with no charge...
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Haha if it wasn't a display error I might have (Though it would have only been like 3 days on the Nexus 6 )

Stupid question but where do I get updated files. I followed the method on root junky for the Nexus 6

Dalek Caan said:
Stupid question but where do I get updated files. I followed the method on root junky for the Nexus 6
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Sorry, I don't remember where I got the updated files now. I do remember sticking to looking on XDA and not just searching randomly online, maybe you could try searching the forums?

is it possible to root with chainfire root files. I did a clean install of the January security update, then flashed the latest boot.img from chainfire then flashed SuperSU 2.66.zip through TWRP, but im still getting this. I received this same issue with the last patch. Im at the point where it isnt worth rooting. Any help would be appreciated.