Although I've read through more than a 100 posts, I still wonder if there is any major or significant difference between the two models...
Specifically, I'm debating if the N920I can work smoothly in a network where the official sold device is the N920C ? Is there any foreseen performance degradation or incompatibility issues ?
Many Thanks.
Hello
I believe there is no differences.
I'm using 920i in Brazil, where the C model seems to be the official one. The phone is working great and smoothly.
N920I LTE bands:
B1 (2100MHz), B2 (1900MHz), B3 (1800MHz), B4 (AWS), B5 (850MHz), B7 (2600MHz), B8 (900MHz), B12 (700MHz), B17 (700MHz), B18 (800 MHz), B19 (800 MHz), B26 (800 MHz), B28 (700MHz)
N920C LTE bands:
B1 (2100MHz), B2 (1900MHz), B3 (1800MHz), B4 (AWS) B5 (850MHz), B7 (2600MHz), B8 (900MHz), B12 (700MHz), B17 (700MHz), B18 (800MHz) B19 (800MHz), B20 (800MHz), B26 (800MHz)
OTA support
Sir are you getting OTA updates in Brazil?
Sheikha said:
Sir are you getting OTA updates in Brazil?
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yes I am
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As I've come to believe from various sources the official supported bands are as follows:
4G FDD-LTE bands 1 / 3 / 7
4G TDD-LTE bands 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
3G TD-SCDMA bands 34 / 39
3G WCDMA bands 1 / 2 / 5 / 8
3G CDMA 2000 bands BC0 / BC1
2G GSM bands 2 / 3 / 5 / 8
2G CDMA 1X BC0 / BC1
Now since I live in europe .. my ISP's most used 4g (LTE) band is 20 (800mhz) and so it is not supported..
Will it be possible to unlock this band via QPST - QXDM modification, or has the band been disabled on the hardware side of the chip itself ?
I know it's very early on, but I have been anticipating the arrival of MI5 for months now, only to find a lack of european LTE support ...
thanks in advance for any info !!!
I also wonder this! Would be great for the 4G coverage here in Europe!
I'm also curious about this. If LTE band 20 is unlockable I'll buy one right away
It would be nice to know if it would be possible. I am also very interested in this phone
Here is answer from official support:
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Here is answer from official support:
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Well, that does only mean that the device does not officially support others bands. The question however was, if other bands can be unlocked.
FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
TD-SCDMA 1900/ 2000
CDMA EV-DO Rev.A (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100mhz)
WCDMA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100)
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900)
http://en.miui.com/thread-230990-1-1.html
This maybe helpful also:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/
Hi!
found this in the Q&A Thrad how is also in a post here in this topic.
"
Q: What networks and LTE bands are supported?
A:As follows:
Network
4G FDD-LTE
TDD-LTE bands 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 18 / 19 / 20 / 25 / 26 / 27 / 28 / 29 (uncertain)
bands 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
3G TD-SCDMA
WCDMA
CDMA 2000 bands 34 / 39
bands 1 / 2 / 5 / 8
bands BC0 / BC1
2G GSM
CDMA 1X bands 2 / 3 / 5 / 8
BC0 / BC1
"
I think this look real nice and answers some questions :good:
Sorry that i cant post the source link in the official MIUI Forum of regulation of XDA Forum.
Have a nice day!
It's not sure ? That said full Lte but in marker said only 1800 2100 2600 what is the true ?
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FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
TD-SCDMA 1900/ 2000
CDMA EV-DO Rev.A (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100mhz)
WCDMA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100)
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900)
http://en.miui.com/thread-230990-1-1.html
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Awesome! It will be my next phone!
These are the official bands:
FDD-LTE (band B1, B3, B7)
TD-LTE (band B38, B39, B40, B41)
TD-SCDMA (band B34, B39)
WCDMA (bands B1, B2, B5, B8)
GSM (band B2, B3 , B5, B8)
CDMA1X / EVDO? (band BC0)
As stated on Xiaomi's website:
http://www.mi.com/mi5/specs/
See also:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/02/26/xiaomi-mi5-lte-bands-confirmed-as-137-only/
They've updated them today.
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They've updated them today.
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These are the official bands:
FDD-LTE (band B1, B3, B7)
TD-LTE (band B38, B39, B40, B41)
TD-SCDMA (band B34, B39)
WCDMA (bands B1, B2, B5, B8)
GSM (band B2, B3 , B5, B8)
CDMA1X / EVDO? (band BC0)
As stated on Xiaomi's website:
http://www.mi.com/mi5/specs/
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Awesome! It will be my next phone!
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We'll all just probably have to wait until someone has one in hand and can test some different SIM Card to see what it actually will support... Needless to say though is if someone at least tests with either a TMO SIM or ATT SIM and they work.... one can assume that all 18 bands do... now it's a waiting game
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We'll all just probably have to wait until someone has one in hand and can test some different SIM Card to see what it actually will support... Needless to say though is if someone at least tests with either a TMO SIM or ATT SIM and they work.... one can assume that all 18 bands do... now it's a waiting game
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I'm pretty sure it will not have all of those bands. Out of luck if you want to use this and are on Verizon, Sprint, AT&T or T-Mobile.
They just updated the supported bands and they have some of my country.. But I don't understand quite well the difference in the 800hz to 1800 to even 2600.. if for example my device catches the 1800 band but not the others, will the signal be good, or to be perfect in need to pick them all?
Also, higher frequency means better signal?
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I'm pretty sure it will not have all of those bands. Out of luck if you want to use this and are on Verizon, Sprint, AT&T or T-Mobile.
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It won't support AT&T LTE?
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Yes is it confirmed ! But if many people say it Xiaomi can't make Lte Global because Samsung and Apple don't want this...
But I'm sure it's not hardware but software and it possible to unlock this ?
And Xiaomi wont to shop in international but in late 2017 and this MI5 there are Lte Global in late 2017 Sorry for people want it me to
The question has not actually been answered: is anyone aware of any possibilities to unlock, via a kernel perhaps, the bands which should be supported by the hardware?
There's a good chance if you can unlock bootloader, Hugo Barra said in an interview that the India version will have those unlocked and not the model sold in China.
Hi,
As Lemall india is already dead, I don't find any reliable source to confirm what are the frequency bands supported by my Le 2.
As per flipkart:
GSM - 850, 900, 1800, 1900 (2/3/5/8);
WCDMA - 850, 900, 1900, 2100 (1/2/4??/5/8);
4G LTE (FDD) - 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20,
LTE (TDD) - 38/40/41
Now, lets check on frequencycheck.com
GSM : 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900), B34 (2000), B39 (1900)
LTE:
B1 (2100)
B3 (1800 +)
B7 (2600)
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 (TD 1900 +)
B40 (TD 2300)
B41 (TD 2500)
The data on different sites varies a lot..
I am planning to go US and wanted to check what bands are supported by Le 2?
Help will be appreciated.
Regards
I have x520 .
Thanks. I will check my box. Hope the information on it is correct.
The box for my phone suggests flipkart is right
Hello, is there any way of enabling carrier aggregation on mi8? I can't get 4.5g working, on my mix 2 it was working by default
I'm having the same problem here with my Mi8, can't see the 4.5g
What is 4.5G?It is LTE+?
It's basically fast internet speeds as on wifi. Carrier aggregation is combining bands to achieve this
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What is 4.5G?It is LTE+?
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Sorry, here in Brazil we have a lot of denominations. and yes it is the LTE+ or 4G+, usually i say LTE+, i don't know why i write 4.5G.
Im living in Austria and on some places i saw the 4G+ signal on my Mi8. So, i can tell you, thats its working.
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Im living in Austria and on some places i saw the 4G+ signal on my Mi8. So, i can tell you, thats its working.
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Do you know what bands are working there?
B3+B7 doesn't work, so, no LTE+ for half of the world LOL.
I know this because i saw on miui forum ppl asking about it!
en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3663008&highlight=4G%2B%2Bnot%2Bworking as you can see here, and here en.miui.com/thread-1419511-15-1.html
Xiaomi Mi8:
band supported
B1
B2
B3
B4
B5
B7
B8
B12
B17
B20
B34
B38
B39
B40
B41
Carrier Aggregation
B3 + B1
B3 + B3
B5 + B1
B5 + B3
B5 + B3 + B1
B7 + B7
B8 + B1
B8 + B3
B8 + B3 + B1
B40 + B5
B41 MIMO4x4 + B39
B41 MIMO4x4 + B41 MIMO4x4
We don'r have the B3+B7, so in many parts of the world, you can't acess the 4G+
3CA(download only) 1+3+5 o 1+3+8
256QAM DL 64QAM UL
MIMO4x4 solo su B41
Cat LTE 15/13 750/150 Mbit/s
Snapdragon 845 modem X20 support 5CA (2CA in upload), cat LTE 18/13 1200/150 Mbit/s and MIMO4x4 wuth 3 bands.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/3-drei-austria
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...d-lte-cn-128gb-m1803e1c-xiaomi-dipper/moldova
As you can see I have all the bands still no 4g+ which I used to have on Mix2 with the same bands...
krepsz said:
Im living in Austria and on some places i saw the 4G+ signal on my Mi8. So, i can tell you, thats its working.
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Which rom do you have? With mine miui 10 global stable in Greece no 4g+
exteng said:
Which rom do you have? With mine miui 10 global stable in Greece no 4g+
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Im on Xiaomi eu rom.
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exteng said:
Which rom do you have? With mine miui 10 global stable in Greece no 4g+
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Im on Xiaomi.eu rom.
thiagoserrao said:
Do you know what bands are working there?
B3+B7 doesn't work, so, no LTE for half of the world LOL.
I know this because i saw on miui forum ppl asking about it!
en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3663008&highlight=4G%2B%2Bnot%2Bworking as you can see here, and here en.miui.com/thread-1419511-15-1.html
Xiaomi Mi8:
band supported
B1
B2
B3
B4
B5
B7
B8
B12
B17
B20
B34
B38
B39
B40
B41
Carrier Aggregation
B3 + B1
B3 + B3
B5 + B1
B5 + B3
B5 + B3 + B1
B7 + B7
B8 + B1
B8 + B3
B8 + B3 + B1
B40 + B5
B41 MIMO4x4 + B39
B41 MIMO4x4 + B41 MIMO4x4
We don'r have the B3+B7, so in many parts of the world, you can't acess the 4G+
3CA(download only) 1+3+5 o 1+3+8
256QAM DL 64QAM UL
MIMO4x4 solo su B41
Cat LTE 15/13 750/150 Mbit/s
Snapdragon 845 modem X20 support 5CA (2CA in upload), cat LTE 18/13 1200/150 Mbit/s and MIMO4x4 wuth 3 bands.
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Brazil uses B28 band to 4G+ and B28 is not supported by MI8.
Yes here vodafone greece B3 B7 and B20 for LTE
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Brazil uses B28 band to 4G+ and B28 is not supported by MI8.
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LOL Don't say this kind of things LOL
4G+ is 2 bands at the same time, not one.... LOL
We have 2 bands in some citys, like manaus, B3 and B7
And others the B28 is getting to work now, like SP with 3 bands B3 , B7 and B28, they are ALL 4G CELLS
When you put together 2 bands like B3+B7 you get the 4G+....Doesn't matter if you have 28...
please go here and rate for this important feature (carrier aggregation for band 3 with 7), thank you all
http://en.miui.com/thread-4063118-1-1.html
How about 4G/LTE-signal on this phone?
Phone should work on these bandwiths:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B17 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B26 (850)
B28 (700)
B34 (TDD 2100)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
In my country we use B3, B7 and B20. I currently have Pocophone F1 and it's LTE should work in those bandwiths but it doesn't.
Lots of problems all over Europe with LTE.
miimaa said:
How about 4G/LTE-signal on this phone?
Phone should work on these bandwiths:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B17 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B26 (850)
B28 (700)
B34 (TDD 2100)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
In my country we use B3, B7 and B20. I currently have Pocophone F1 and it's LTE should work in those bandwiths but it doesn't.
Lots of problems all over Europe with LTE.
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4g works fine in Ireland on EU model, but signal is sometimes weak but likely down to my provider
I live in Italy (B20) and I've never had a single signal problem. Never had any connection loss or weak signal (maybe a little lower but because of operator, but no calls or internet problems).
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I live in Italy (B20) and I've never had a single signal problem. Never had any connection loss or weak signal (maybe a little lower but because of operator, but no calls or internet problems).
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I agree. Always in 4g+ with Tim and Optima.
Should work for you @miimaa https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/FI/realme-x2-pro
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Should work for you @miimaa https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/FI/realme-x2-pro
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Yeah I know.
Even my current Pocophone should work here in Finland but it doesn't. And that's a bummer because I pay for 100 Mb network and all I get is 20.
When new phones are released, I always find this confusing, and have difficulty tracking down accurate information. Perhaps writing it down here, and getting feedback from the community, can help some other people:
GSMArena reports the following models:
SM-S911B
SM-S911B/DS
SM-S911U
SM-S911U1
SM-S911W
SM-S911N
SM-S9110
SM-S911E
SM-S911E/DS
source: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s23-12082.php
Typically there are lists suggesting which model corresponds to which geographic market. I'll work to track that info down, and add it here.
Looking through the firmware listings on sammobile (and Kimovi for S911E) here are approximate geographic regions for models:
SM-S911B -- Europe / Africa / Middle East / Oceania
SM-S911B/DS -- (assumed same as above, Dual SIM)
SM-S911U -- USA
SM-S911U1 -- USA ( factory unlocked )
SM-S911W -- Canada
SM-S911N -- Korea
SM-S9110 -- China / Taiwan / Hong Kong
SM-S911E -- Latin America
SM-S911E/DS -- (assumed same as above, Dual SIM)
sources:
[1] https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s23/firmware
[2] https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23-sm-s911e
additional updates
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
ScottHW said:
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
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SM-S911U / SM-S911U1
source: https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23-sm-s911u
5G
n1 (2100)
n2 (1900 PCS)
n3 (1800)
n5 (850)
n7 (2600)
n8 (900)
n25 (1900)
n38 (2600)
n40 (2300)
n41 (2500)
n66 (1700)
n71 (600)
n77 (3700)
n78 (3500)
n260 mmWave (39GHz)
n261 mmWave (28GHz)
4G LTE
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B13 (700)
B14 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B25 (1900+)
B26 (850)
B28b (700)
B28a (700)
B30 (2300)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
B46 (TDD 5200)
B48 (TDD 3600)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
3G
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
B19 (800)
2G
CDMA BC0 (800)
CDMA BC1 (1900)
CDMA BC10 (800 Secondary)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
ScottHW said:
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
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SM-S911B / SM-S911B/DS
source: https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23
5G
n1 (2100)
n3 (1800)
n5 (850)
n7 (2600)
n8 (900)
n20 (800)
n28b (700)
n28a (700)
n38 (2600)
n40 (2300)
n41 (2500)
n66 (1700)
n77 (3700)
n78 (3500)
4G LT
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B13 (700)
B17 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B28b (700)
B28a (700)
B32 (1500)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
B66 (1700/2100)
3G
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
B19 (800)
2G
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
Wow. I just realized that S23 has no Exynos models anymore. Has the Samsung gods answered our prayers to finally bring bootloader unlocking to Snapdragons or will it stay locked?
webhook said:
Wow. I just realized that S23 has no Exynos models anymore. Has the Samsung gods answered our prayers to finally bring bootloader unlocking to Snapdragons or will it stay locked?
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@webhook Right?!?! If I'm understanding correctly, this XDA article says:
... the bootloader of the US and Canadian Snapdragon models can't be unlocked, a design which essentially forced most of the modding jobs centered around the Exynos-powered editions. This changes with the Galaxy S23 series, as all regional variants are now powered by a modified Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chipset.
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Sounds like our prayers have indeed been answered!
And I think this post by @afaneh92 shows that's right :-D In fact, they have several examples of custom recoveries running on S23 models.
The reason I'd started this tread was becausefor the S22 I had all kinds of hassles trying to weigh which variant was the right choice; the US models couldn't be unlocked, but the international ones didn't have quite all the right radio bands/frequencies. I never ended up buying the S22 because of it.
Seems like that's all a thing of the past.
ScottHW said:
@webhook Right?!?! If I'm understanding correctly, this XDA article says:
Sounds like our prayers have indeed been answered!
And I think this post by @afaneh92 shows that's right :-D In fact, they have several examples of custom recoveries running on S23 models.
The reason I'd started this tread was becausefor the S22 I had all kinds of hassles trying to weigh which variant was the right choice; the US models couldn't be unlocked, but the international ones didn't have quite all the right radio bands/frequencies. I never ended up buying the S22 because of it.
Seems like that's all a thing of the past.
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Finally! The Samsung gods have answered us... Bring out the roms!
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Finally! The Samsung gods have answered us... Bring out the roms!
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@webhook
On another thread, someone else has indicated it's possible we may be celebrating too early. Apparently it is possible that, Sammy used a uniform chipset, and still went out of their way to create extra bootloader locks for specific region variants.
I pm'd afaneh92 to try to clear this up.
If my excitement has led us astray, I deeply apologize.
ScottHW said:
@webhook
On another thread, someone else has indicated it's possible we may be celebrating too early. Apparently it is possible that, Sammy used a uniform chipset, and still went out of their way to create extra bootloader locks for specific region variants.
I pm'd afaneh92 to try to clear this up.
If my excitement has led us astray, I deeply apologize.
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Oh dang, well I think International versions might be only unlocked.
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Oh dang, well I think International versions might be only unlocked.
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You are correct.
I can't find firmware for S911E,So I guess there was no S91xE