power bank, manually controlled 5v 9v 12v. - G4 Accessories

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free....nYYnSb&ws_ab_test=201407_5,201444_5,201409_5
What is your idea with this? will this work in lg g4 as quick charge 2.0?
by manually controlling it to 9v or even 12v?

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Charging Issue via Computer

So I'm not able to use the turbo charger at the moment and have it plugged into the computers USB. I just noticed that its going to take nearly 8 hours to charge..is this normal or is something causing the slow charge?
Sorry just realized I posted this in wrong section.
crookone10 said:
So I'm not able to use the turbo charger at the moment and have it plugged into the computers USB. I just noticed that its going to take nearly 8 hours to charge..is this normal or is something causing the slow charge?
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Computer USB only charges at ~0.5 A. if it's USB 2.0 or ~0.9 A if it's USB 3.0. That's opposed to the turbo charger which charges at well over 2 A.
Computer USB ports only supply 500mA for USB 2.0, or 900mA for USB 3.0. However, almost all Android devices determine whether you're plugged into the wall (AC) or a computer (USB) by whether the data pins are shorted together (as they are in android-compatible chargers -- but not iOS-compatible chargers). If the data pins are intact (or missing, like in most charge-only cables) then the device will charge at 500mA regardless. This is why some people experience slow charging with USB 3.0, or some wall chargers (even those rated for 2A).
Update: Just saw someone beat me to the punch a bit, but wanted to make a correction. Turbo chargers (Quick Charge 2.0) CAN charge at 3A, but the Moto Turbo Charger only charges at 1.6A for both 5V and 9V modes, or 1.2A for the 12V mode. Thus, it's not the amperage that's increased but the power (watts).
jt3 said:
Computer USB ports only supply 500mA for USB 2.0, or 900mA for USB 3.0. However, almost all Android devices determine whether you're plugged into the wall (AC) or a computer (USB) by whether the data pins are shorted together (as they are in android-compatible chargers -- but not iOS-compatible chargers). If the data pins are intact (or missing, like in most charge-only cables) then the device will charge at 500mA regardless. This is why some people experience slow charging with USB 3.0, or some wall chargers (even those rated for 2A).
Update: Just saw someone beat me to the punch a bit, but wanted to make a correction. Turbo chargers (Quick Charge 2.0) CAN charge at 3A, but the Moto Turbo Charger only charges at 1.6A for both 5V and 9V modes, or 1.2A for the 12V mode. Thus, it's not the amperage that's increased but the power (watts).
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Interesting, I just assumed the Turbo charger worked at higher amperage. Thanks for the education. :highfive:
gtalum said:
Interesting, I just assumed the Turbo charger worked at higher amperage. Thanks for the education. :highfive:
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No problem. I like to make that correction when I see it, because Quick Charge 2.0 adapters are starting to come out, and it makes it easier to compare them to the (rather expensive) Moto Turbo Charger if know its true specs. For instance, a lot of QC 2.0 adapters don't even have a 12V mode, but run their 9V mode at 1.67A. Since the Moto charger's power is the same in both 9V and 12V modes (14.4W), and the 9V mode of those other chargers actually push 15W, they can charge a bit faster than Moto's charger, although if you just saw the the lack of 12V or the "low" 1.67A rating, you might not catch that.
jt3 said:
Thus, it's not the amperage that's increased but the power (watts).
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P=IV
Amigo.

Quick Charge 2.0 - Can any high amp or is there a chip

TItle says most of it -- is there a chip does a "handshake" allowing for QC or will any generic high amp charger do the trick?
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TItle says most of it -- is there a chip does a "handshake" allowing for QC or will any generic high amp charger do the trick?
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There is a "chip". There is a specific Quick Charge specification, and both the phone hardware and charger need to support it. It uses high amps during initial charging, then lowers to a trickle as it approaches 100%.
FYI I have both a high amp and a QC2.0 charger and have confirmed the above using a USB pass through volt/amp metre.

USB fast charging (kernel)

Some kernels come with USB fast charging as an option that you can toggle. If you use this, does it shorten the battery health long-term ? I'm not referring to turbo chargers (aftermarket), this is just the kernel setting. I recall reading this awhile ago, but I was curious myself.
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Some kernels come with USB fast charging as an option that you can toggle. If you use this, does it shorten the battery health long-term ? I'm not referring to turbo chargers (aftermarket), this is just the kernel setting. I recall reading this awhile ago, but I was curious myself.
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all it does is increase the voltage coming in when charging via a USB. USB charging voltage is about a quarter/third that of a wall charger. no, no negative affects.
Not at all, even with USB fast charge on it will draw less power than if it were plugged in a regular wall charger or the turbo charger. There's an app called Ampere you can use to monitor how much power the phone draws while charging (or even discharging) you can use it to see the differences between regular usb, fast charge usb, turbo charge, etc.
Ok, that's good to know. Now I can re-toggle the feature and not worry.:good:
What about if it is toggled on and you put it on a regular charger ? Is it still fine ?
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What about if it is toggled on and you put it on a regular charger ? Is it still fine ?
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if its on and you charge it in a wall outlet, nothing will happen. it will only work on a real USB connection.
Motorola put in support for the Qualcomm rapid charge in the nexus 6.
Read up:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
It allows the battery to charge at a higher voltage with USB connections and Qualcomm certified rapid chargers AND a compatible cable. The nexus 6 can still recharge with standard chargers and cables, just at a slower rate regardless of kernel support.
To answer the damage questions: Moto says no damage to the battery as long as certified chargers are used.
Can't you use any standard usb charging cable? (Assuming it's not really long or poor quality)

Is turbo charge and quick charge diff ?

I have an mi Power bank 2i which has fast charged enabled but when I connect it to charge my Moto one power ....turbo charge dose not get activated ....anyone facing the same problem?
Brother I have Qualcomm quick charger 3.o it support Motorola one power for turbo charge. means quick charge and turbo charge are same. I have both and have same charging speed.
Power bank don't have quick charge 3.o so please don't expect turbo charge from it
I have Mi 20000mAH Li-Polymer Power Bank 2i which supports single-port Quick Charge 3.0.
When I plug my MOP, it shows turbocharging sign.
moto one power turbo charge is nothing but fancy name given to qualcom quick charge 3.0. if you plug in any certified qualcom quick charge 3.0 adapters, power bank or car chargers it say turbo charge.
I have 18W Qualcomm quick charger 3.0 it's supported or not.

Question Combining Fast Charging and USB C Hub -- What charge do you get

So there are two interesting threads going on... One about USB C Hubs and one about how the Tab S8 Series Super Fast Charge protocol works in real life. I'd like to see what people say about power pass-through with their USB C hubs. What it comes down to is that the Tab S8/plus/ultra really wants 10V @ 4.5V, but most chargers max out at 9V @ 3A or if they support PPS, 10V @ 3A. For hubs, I don't know what "PD Pass-Through" means or how it works and if it supports the PPS format Samsung wants. Many hubs say "support 100W 3.0 PD Pass-Through". What does this mean?
My UGREEN 70411 hub says it supports 100W PD 3.0 pass-through charging. But when I use the same cables and power supply, the charge going to the tablet battery drops precipitously with the hub in the chain:
65W PD 3.0/PPS power supply --> Tablet gives Super Fast Charge 2.0 with Ampere reporting 7A @ 4.12V charging the battery i.e. 30W
65W PD 3.0/PPS power supply --> 100W USB C Hub --> Tablet gives Fast Charging (not Super Fast Charging) with Ampere reporting 2A @ 4.12V charging the battery i.e. 8W
So it isn't even close to "passing through" the power.
Does anyone get better results? Do we need anything special in a hub to "pass through" the PPS protocol Samsung actually requires? Do I just have an old hub that doesn't support PPS?
Thanks,
Joe
I have the same issue. Using a brand new Anker USB C hub. No matter which high quality cables or 100w chargers I use, or mix of peripherals plugged into the hub (I use a 4k monitor and an SSD), the tablet doesn't charge. When the tablet is plugged in, and the cover is closed or screen is off, it charges as it should. Would really like an answer as to why this is, or a workaround. I'm trying to justify this as a laptop replacement, and inability to charge whilst simultaneusly in use and 'docked' is a potential dealbreaker.

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