google apps without the whole google play services ? - Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)

xdadogs said:
Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
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Google play services is a mandatory part of GApps, it's included in all variants of GApps.
You can use pico GApps if you want the basic stuffs. Or you can use the ROM without any GApps at all of you prefer.
And don't freeze or remove any apps if you don't know what it does.

OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.

xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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So freeze playsevices and see what work and what wont.
Verstuurd van mijn Xperia SP

xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.

Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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THERE IS!?

Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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Hi !
Thanks for this useful answer. I was on the dev's thread yesterday. Unfortunately, it does not work with every apps. Still, its a useful module.
I'll put a link once I'm at home...

TechnoSparks said:
THERE IS!?
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YES !!
Take a look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-run-google-play-services-1-0-t3054115
But it can't run every apps.
I'm surprised about this subject. I am not a developer, but if I were, I would try to create a tweak, an app, a module, I don't know something that could help people not to use Google play services app.

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How to get a lot of RAM in S5830i

Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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bro i seriously dont think that stopping such background apps would do any good but rather they would restart and then cause lagg again instead if you want more ram install a cm7 based slim rom and have more ram...
[email protected] said:
bro i seriously dont think that stopping such background apps would do any good but rather they would restart and then cause lagg again instead if you want more ram install a cm7 based slim rom and have more ram...
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Bro I'm not stopping them...I'm blocking them.They'll never run before I unblock them.It's been 8 days my phone is constantly running with Whatsapp,Facebook,Facebook messenger,go battery saver and hike...no lags at all bro....Stock Rom on Stock kernel....u shud try this to stop Google play services
Thank me plz
asishtheprince said:
Bro I'm not stopping them...I'm blocking them.They'll never run before I unblock them.It's been 8 days my phone is constantly running with Whatsapp,Facebook,Facebook messenger,go battery saver and hike...no lags at all bro....Stock Rom on Stock kernel....u shud try this to stop Google play services
Thank me plz
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U can freeze apps from link2sd and titanium backup also...
Sent from my GT-S5830i using Tapatalk 2
asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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Here are some of my suggestion's
1) Remove all bloatware
2) Remove all ringtone's and whatever tone's ...leave only ringtone .
3) Delete all battery.qmg in media folder and also delete spamsung's bootanimation .
4) flash a custom kernel
5) flash Adrenaline engine and cosmic engine
Feel the smoothness ..and yeah .! question should be asked in Q&A not in general section.
I wouldn't recommend you stopping any of the GPlay Services. They are there for some reason. And the reason GPlay Services is using much RAM is that other apps use these services. So if you disable them some apps will not work as expected.
Then how cm 7 or other cm roms dosen't require G-apps install for their working???
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Android-fany said:
I wouldn't recommend you stopping any of the GPlay Services. They are there for some reason. And the reason GPlay Services is using much RAM is that other apps use these services. So if you disable them some apps will not work as expected.
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Though we need it but some people like me does not need the location service at all. Then why petting it eat my memory? That's why I'm suggesting to disable them. Nthng else.
asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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thank you.....i will try it
but i ask if you can upload "Disable Services" for me because i cannot access internet from my mobile
sega17 said:
Then how cm 7 or other cm roms dosen't require G-apps install for their working???
Sent from my GT-S5830i using Tapatalk 2
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Because you can still run apps without GApps? Android does still work without GApps.
asishtheprince said:
Though we need it but some people like me does not need the location service at all. Then why petting it eat my memory? That's why I'm suggesting to disable them. Nthng else.
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Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
mahithm said:
Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
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Bro I am not saying to disable the whole google play services. just some particular services among the 110 services google play provides.Now it is 389th hour my ace-i is going without a single lag with lots of ram eating apps.First of all try what I'm saying then post here...
mahithm said:
Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
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Andvone more thing....everything is running like butter...no crashes...no fc on any app or game.Just have a try bro.Hit thanks
asishtheprince said:
Bro I am not saying to disable the whole google play services. just some particular services among the 110 services google play provides.Now it is 389th hour my ace-i is going without a single lag with lots of ram eating apps.First of all try what I'm saying then post here...
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Frankly, I have very low ram consumption on my Stock rom even with Google Play Services turned on. So I don't think there is any need for me to disable it considering how often I use these services. BTW this will surely affect those people who needs to use location services, Google play gaming platform, etc. But then again, you can always enable these services when you need them. I'm glad to hear everything works smooth. You know you learn something new everyday

Apps/bloatware removal, wich ones are safe to delete?

Hello!
I got my z3+ today and so far I'm really happy with it. I installed the GNL (Google Now Launcher) straight away because I just love it, used it on my old Xperia ZR. I want my phone to be as smooth, fast and clean as possible. I uninstalled all apps that could be uninstalled through the app-drawer, and now I'm wondering what apps I can inactivate from the settings->apps menu? Does anyone know what apps are safe to remove? I'm guessing I can inactivate the original mail app and SMS app as I'm using Gmail and Google Messenger instead of those.
Can I inactivate Albums app and use googles app for that aswell? When I did that on my ZR suddenly I couldnt show photos that I took through the camera app (you know the small thumbnail of the photo you just took in the lower right corner), I don't want that to happen again and I don't want any problems of that kind.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my grammar, English is not my main language.
you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
asking said:
you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
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That's a good idea! I disabled a bunch of apps now and I think I didn't mess anything up so far.
I really really want to disable the album app and use only Google Photos but I got the same issue as this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/changing-default-album-app-t2921987
I'm guessing there's no fix for that? And now I'm stuck with 2 album apps. Thanks Sony!

apps has to be opened or in background in order to work

Big deal, hope you can help me
My Huawei P9 EVA-TL00 China Mobile, came with no Google apps so i installed google play from mirror and everything works `fine` have some crashes but no big deal
The real BIG DEAL is that apps do not work if they are not opened or in background. Updates from play store only install when i open the app.
Going crazy please help
Any Ideas??
Thank you
MIKEDROID616 said:
Big deal, hope you can help me
My Huawei P9 EVA-TL00 China Mobile, came with no Google apps so i installed google play from mirror and everything works `fine` have some crashes but no big deal
The real BIG DEAL is that apps do not work if they are not opened or in background. Updates from play store only install when i open the app.
Going crazy please help
Any Ideas??
Thank you
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First you have to protect the apps you want to run in the background from closing automatically when screen locks
you can do that from phone manager>batter>protected apps and turn on the ones you want to run.
for some apps eventhough they are protected you don't get notifications unless you are on wifi or open them. For these kind of apps my personal solution was to always use VPN on mobile data, i use Opera max app and everything works perfectly did this on my phone so dont know if it work for you. I hope you test this and tell us back.

ZTE Axon M 128GB Chinese Edition Oreo Update removes Google functionality

Yesterday I updated to Oreo as the ZTE Axon M update service showed a new update available. On update Google Play would no longer launch and Play Services was not functioning. The Google Application services were pre-installed on the phone when purchased and shipped from AliExpress.
I figured I would reset the phone and on reset all Google functionality was removed.
I figured I would simply install the GAPPS services again and followed this thread:
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...-store-without-gapps-google-services-0176241/
However once everything installs and I launch the Play Store I get a white blank screen.
I would have expected to be prompted for the Google Account login screen and if I check Accounts from settings I can see that there is a Google Account listed but not configured and if I click it I am told to add the account from the relevant app. There is no other shortcut installed though other than Google Play Store which hangs as described previously.
I have tried various other ways to get this sorted out but the end result is the same, inability to add a google account and no way to launch the play store.
I considered YalpStore but its really not fit for purpose because anything that requires the Google Play Services framework will not run.
My phone is not rooted but it appears it does not need to be for GAPPS install functionality. I can see many threads that say this works without the need for rooting (and in any event there are no guides for rooting an Axon M).
My question is simply how do I the Google Play Store and Google Play Services to work on the ZTE Axon M with the Oreo update ? It is driving me nuts and I would never have proceeded with the update if I had realised it would simply be removed.
Same
I'm. Having the same problem I tryed everything
Me too please we want solution
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
sev7en said:
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
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Yes, same problem
baraa_998 said:
Yes, same problem
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I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
sev7en said:
I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
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I tried, same issue crashing
I tried multiple methods too, but to no avail.
I do suspect a possibility. The previous time when i managed to get my gapps working when i first got the Chinese set, i had to disable the "Mi-Assistant" App as that was the one preventing my Google Play Services from Auto-Running even though it was set to allow. This time, I can not even see Google Play Services in the Auto-Run Manager and while i tried to force stop and disable the "Mi-Assistant" App, it does not allow me to disable.
I hope this info can help provide some leads to an expert who would be able to help us get back our GApps running again.
Thanks.
I do agree... meanwhile take a look here: https://code.tutsplus.com/articles/10-alternative-android-app-stores--cms-20999
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
Hi, are you on the Android Oreo Update?
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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yes oreo 8.1 axon m 6 / 128gb. If there is the possibility I can post images of the app. One thing the app inside contains the play store but the apps that you download do not appear on the home of the device but within the app itself
Sounds like an emulator to me.. Would be great if you could provide the images of the app. Any small information helps.
Btw, to all, i did manage to download a GApps installer which seemed promising, cause at least it went into the login page for Google Account. But then the error of requesting to update "Google Play Services" popped up again and again and everything went down the drain again. Will try further and hopefully will have good news.
I'm new on the forum you have to explain to me how to post the images. thank you
Dears... did you see that in the ZTE Store?
Search for Google Play...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561303&stc=1&d=1532957263
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561304&stc=1&d=1532957263
Here we are
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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There is an application in the ZTE Market that installs a pseudo Google Play but it is sandboxed somehow and you have to launch this app to get access to your installs - feels very insecure to me - I just want a clean Google Play on the device
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
Pierpaolo89 said:
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
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I posted a link with a few of alternative stores (the best is to get the apk stand-alone ihmo) but if it is to follow that sandbox ways, as suggest, create a new "junky" account just to have it registered.
Any Update??!!

How to get google notifications working without gms or sketchy downloads

Hey guys, long time lurker around xda and after purposely getting a huawei gms-less phone to see how it would go I ran into some frustrations learning that apks from the playstore whether from downloads or aurora store app etc, nothing would deliver notifications. My huawei is a nova7se but I had a friend test this on his and it is working as well so I presume it works for all huawei/googleless devices to a point.
The goal of this was to find a way to get notifications from playstore apps such as discord, outlook email , banking apps etc. This is not a replacement for google services apis needed for games or google apps which rely on services framework to operate in general.
A few things
-MUST BE CLEAN GOOGLE-LESS PHONE**
-Does not need root/bootloader unlocked
-Does not need sketchy downloads from random sites formatting recovery/ota/hisuite backups etc
-Mostly all open source
-Easily reversible and minimal risk
-All done through phone without additional mods or adb
-Not all apps will work for notification services for this depending on how the original developer team wrote the app to handle this situations. For example: discord, outlook, capital one bank, chase bank, apps work but protonmail did not want to connect to microg for notifications and I have not been able to successfully trick it to connect to it yet)
- APKS MUST BE FROM PLAY STORE ORIGINALLY. Using fdroid variants or personal stuff probably wont work since those packages did not rely on google notification services. I know some apps have a standalone apk you can download externally from the source but it may differ in its functionality.
-THIS IS NOT GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES AND WILL NOT MAKE GOOGLE APPS WORK. The reason it is not working for your google apps and games is because it was never supposed to. Dx
**By "google-less" phone I am referring to not having any leftover packages from attempting to install gms on the device. Google packages conflict with microG and will not be compatible. If you have used lzplay or other methods to attempt to get some form of playstore working, then you will most likely have google packages installed somewhere even if it failed to get GMS working perfectly. Keep this in mind if you get installation issues. Ideally if you are not using the phone as a daily, factory reset it to original settings if possible to ensure cleanest install if you want to pursue this.
STEP 1)
Download microG apps.
-microG services core
(optional)
- **microG services framework proxy
- **microG droidguard helper (? no idea if this is needed but was in my downloads for microg testing)
**the services framework proxy and droidguardhelper were part of the original experiment but later on I managed to get notifications running without needed either one of these.
Easiest way is to use fdroid store app and to add in microg repo found here.
https://f-droid.org/
https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/wiki/Downloads
Step 2)
Open microg settings app - self check
-Signature spoofing will not work because we have no access to anything on the phone system wise
-Installed packages should have "playservices gms core installed" and "services framework installed" checked only (see picture)
-Grant permissions and select to ignore battery optimization (so the service is not closed in background)
Step 3)
MicroG settings main menu
-Turn on google device registration
-Turn on google cloud messaging
-Turn on google safetynet (probably is not actually doing anything but turn it on for good measure)
-Add google account (Does not appear to be needed since it did not do anything specific relating to notifs)
Step 4)
Download aurora store.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
or
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore
Fdroid route is easiest if you used it to install microg apps.
(Why aurorastore? Why not? The main reason is because it accesses google play store apps which inturn are the apks which are known to use google play services for notifications. Downloading an apk from another origin might not be the playstore version making it not really work with this process)
Step 5)
Download apps as needed with aurora store,
In phone settings, make sure you disable auto management of background apps.
Settings-battery-applaunch. Set apps like outlook, discord etc to manual and turn all settings to on (auto launch/run in background/secondary lauch).
Optional step 6) In aurora store settings , add microg apps to blacklist so aurora store does not try to update microg with play services which will erase micro g and give you a systemless apk of play services which does absolutely nothing.
Thats basically it. I was so caught up on trying to find ways to break into my nova 7se's bootloader and attempted to sideload microg for authentic playstore functionality and playservices but as long as notifications are working, aurora store + notifs is all the functionality I need.
No offense to those offering other ways to add in gms to huawei phones but as a security minded individual, it seems like too much of a risk to use randomly hosted internet files overwriting system functionality.
If you go into microg settings and under "google cloud messaging" you can see which apps are being monitored for notifications. Once I restarted my device, its status turned to disconnected but still catches notifications for outlook and discord as I tested. This is not using microg as a replacement for playservices because again this is ONLY FOR NOTIFICATION USAGE in this implementation.
Hope this helps anyone who wants to be able to use some google play apps but had notification issues.
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
zoold3vil said:
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Don't worry, you just have to reinstall every app that force closes.
sheikgr said:
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
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Correct. I stumbled upon this accidentally while trying to figure out a way to enable 'oem unlock' in my nova7se since huawei blocked even adb shell sysprop access to change the setting. Its not a full implementation of microG and probably is not intended to be used this way but it gets notifications through which is a plus when pulling apks from play store. Theres no xda forum for the nova7se but figured Id share it here D:
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i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Yea unfortunatly any attempts with getting original play services installed sort of messes with this. Preferably a clean install/phone reset is ideal starting point. App wise you might have to clear cache and data so it 'resets' which is almost the same as uninstalling and reinstalling the apps. You will still get the message that "this app wont function without play services" since you cant spoof it entirely and on some you might have to find the setting to turn notifications off and back on in the app themselves. If it shows up on microG's setting under 'google cloud messaging' option, it is working. Ive been using the nova7se for a couple days now testing it as a daily user, restarted it occasionally and things are functioning similar to regular android phones(notification wise). Just be sure to allow the app to run in background so the system battery saver/app launch process does not turn it off.
as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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Oh ok I get what you are talking about now. Backup functionality (for whatsapp) I believe uses google drive account which microG in this sense is not going to provide. Just a friendly reminder that this process is for push notifications only and not google api usage. provided by play services
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
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maybe i found there a bug of whatsapp... as whatsapp trys to find google drive... but does not work correctly it loads forever... for some reason it looks like it ah hidden error message or something like this... i hit back a couple of times, and closed whatsapp and reopend, and suddenly i saw the no backup found page... anyway still all this is BS, i really hate huawei for not unlocking the bootloader, and let us just do what we like to do... there wouldn't even be an issue with GMS anymore as we simply could flash openGapps
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
hayals said:
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
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So the statement is a bit misleading, this is not really GMS but its a way to use 3rd party play store apps that would not give notifications because of play services missing. This will only cover the notification portion of apps/apks originally found in the playstore that require notifications through play services push notifications. I have not touched HMS or anything else but this basically inserts a listener under microG to monitor push notifications and deliver them as needed. Again this does not resolve the issue of missing google APIs found in the full GMS package and is not intended to do so. Strictly notification wise for apps that need them.
Personally I used aurora store to get apks from playstore without needing playstore installed (because playstore version apps are looking to use googles push notification services) but how those apps function is another story. For example: Youtube/maps/google pay etc will not work as they need google apis. But 3rd party apps like discord, outlook email, and banking apps like capital one etc do work. Games might not because they might want play games api which is not present here since this is not GMS. (Tried to fun cytus 2 and a few other games and it wouldnt start since license check fails by default)
To my knowledge this will not work with any other GMS procedure attempted so you cannot combine this with a working GMS hacked install since you will have a version of play services and gsf framework active. Think of this as another alternative entirely in a way if you want to not risk questionable modifications and want to stay on default HMS software. Idk what the future holds as huawei seems to block ways to get GMS on phones after they become popular so I see this as an alternative to the unknown with pulled playstore apks functioning as they should.
GMS and this fix won't cooperate.
I've been using this for a while, but sadly not apps are giving me notifications. Reddit for example is not sending anything to my phone.
I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
GrimTech said:
I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
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Unfortunatly for something like that theres too many factors at play to trouble shoot that from my end. I would say to try a different default browser/vpn it etc as it could be any number of reasons why google servers arent connecting for it. Games that use google wont work because this is not google play services replacement. This was only intended for getting notifications working with most* apps that rely on a simple push notification service through google play services. Unfortunatly this isnt a guarentee depending on the app itself and where its pulled from . This was why I use/suggest aurora store since its pulling the playstore version of the app which almost always relies on google services for notifications.
Some apps like discord, outlook etc have a manner of continuous notification scanning in the background processes to try to get itself to connect to a push service even if they give you the error that "the device does not have google services and might not work properly". I can confirm those are working as are my banking and authenticator apps. I had an issue with proton mail specifically where it wouldnt attempt another push notification check to register with microg like the previous apps and wont recieve notifications. Its not a magic bullet but helps where it works.
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
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Thanks for the info
I still can't open google related apps like youtube or google app itself... Even with Vanced youtube, it is hard to keep up because I can't log in, so i can't have my subscriptions and updates. Also certain games can't be played because the data are connected to my Google Play
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..So does the MicroG method still work in 2021 or with the latest version of the OS?
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..So does the MicroG method still work in 2021 or with the latest version of the OS?
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Yes it does work with EMUI11.
Only advantage it's easier to install and Get push Notification and not mush else.
Now This is the only way you can install with Vanced Manager

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