Seeking Custom ROM for N7000 with multi user function - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
i want to use my old Samsung Galaxy Note as Tablet for my little daugters. To protect the Phone (and also my daughters), i want use the multi user feature to be able to install Apps with my accounts and let her start only less alowed apps.
I always try some Custom ROMS with Android 4.2 or higher. But all of them without the Multiuser feature.
Could anybody provide me the name of a Custom ROM that provide the multi user function ? I found a old thred, that Revolt should support that. But the Version of the Revolt ROM that i found, was without this feature.
cu, Thiemo

starwhooper said:
Hi there,
i want to use my old Samsung Galaxy Note as Tablet for my little daugters. To protect the Phone (and also my daughters), i want use the multi user feature to be able to install Apps with my accounts and let her start only less alowed apps.
I always try some Custom ROMS with Android 4.2 or higher. But all of them without the Multiuser feature.
Could anybody provide me the name of a Custom ROM that provide the multi user function ? I found a old thred, that Revolt should support that. But the Version of the Revolt ROM that i found, was without this feature.
cu, Thiemo
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There are device related problems with multiuser support (Small /data partition and no emulated internal storage).
This could be changed in an rom but this would make all other roms incompatible without manual repartitioning.
This is also the reason why I have removed it some time ago from my lollipop rom

Hi Bauner,
thank you for that Information. Now i understand why i could not found a ROM with this feature.
Regards, Thiemo

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CFH [Wildfire] v1.0 - Newb rom

Hi
I had the day off, and decided to have a play with the Kitchen to see what I could come up with. After following the instructions on theunlockr.com I decided to base my rom on the OpenFire v.2.3 rom. Any issues that rom had, mine will have.
I have added a few things and changed a couple of things, but in the end, this is my first rom for a device I do not have myself. I have an HTC Desire, but noticed that the Wildfire isn't getting as much love, hence that choice. I hope to get a better understanding of what it takes to make a proper custom rom at some time in the future.
Removed:
Launcher2
Added:
Launcher Pro
Titanium Backup
Rom Manager
Fancy Widget
From the OpenFire v.2.3 post:
NO HTC APPS DO NOT WORK ON THIS ROM AND I WONT TRY TO PORT THEM (but if you try and suceed please tell me and I will maybe include them!)
This ROM is from the android source there is no HTC apps or extra apps from the start it do come with spareparts and dev tools from android source. At the moment it seems a bit slow I think that is due to animations, animations can be turned of in spareparts or in the settings menu.
Features:
- Froyo aosp 2.2.1
- Root + superuser app
- Busybox
- No htc apps!
- Some google apps
- Multi language
- Darktremor Apps2SD
- Patched market
- Usb & WIFI-thetering
- JIT
- 3 in 1 reboot menu
- It may make your phone explode! (You have been warned)
Bugs / Not working:
- Video recording working (but, bad quality)
- Cant import contacts from SIM ? no read/write acess to SIM ? (can anyone confirm or deny this?)
TODO:
- Get rid of above bugs
- HTC-camera (maybe)
Thanks to:
HCDR.Jacob - for the kernel and vendor
Yopsi - for sharing package with google apps.
danne_jo - for APN stuff, and for hosting to my ROM
Sympnotic - For his patched market app
AnantK123 - For pointing out a fix for the camera app
acavella - For hosting / making a homepage dedicated just for OpenFire
Notes:
NO HTC APPS DO NOT WORK ON THIS ROM AND I WONT TRY TO PORT THEM (but if you try and suceed please tell me and I will maybe include them!)
To get app2sd to work you need an ext partition when you have that you might have todo a full wipe and reflash the ROM to get app2sd to work
When you boot up first time choose "com.android.provision"
Anything you want to know about OpenFire can be found at the OpenFire website.
CFH [Wildfire] v1.0 Fault Log
Download:
CFH [Wildfire] v1.0.zip (58 MB)
Due to posting restrictions, I am unable to post links to the Rom. I will post it as soon as possible.
In the mean time, please leave comments below.
Thanks
Chronicfathead
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Reserved for future use
What did you change? We don't need roms like those. Everyone can customize his installed rom like he wants.
Why don't you stick to a phone you have and help projects that just need help instead of reinventing the wheel over and over again?
no offense, just my personal oppinion
bl1nkk said:
What did you change? We don't need roms like those. Everyone can customize his installed rom like he wants.
Why don't you stick to a phone you have and help projects that just need help instead of reinventing the wheel over and over again?
no offense, just my personal oppinion
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None taken.
I've had my desire for a while, and decided to root it about a month ago. I have now installed a custom rom, and I'm enjoying the fiddling around. I don't have too much knowledge, apart from experiences gained in the last week or so.
I tried talking a colleague into installing a custom rom, but he said there weren't too many for the Wildfire, so I said I'd have a play. I'm treating it as a learning curve, as I've always been interested in programming, but never really had the time. I have created a (very) small program for the Mac, and have written a few batch files but thats as far as I've taken it.
In an afternoon I've set up a Linux VM, installed all the needed software and had a play to see what I can realistically do. I see this as a first step. I'm trying to talk the wife into a Wildfire so I can have one to play with!
If the consensus is I should delete the thread, then so be it.
Chronicfathead.

[Q] Problem on Input Languages

When using stock ROM, my mini can determine my native language. Ex like when typing message, just talk. But after switching to custom, cannot found that features. Tried checked in Input Languages, also not find. Google also not found. Install Keyboard for ICS also no luck. Someone can try to help me.
Tq
That's why it's called custom rom, the cooker of the project add some features, and remove others such as interface and keyboard languages, some crappy built-in apps (those whose seems useless in his point of view).
wherefore there where you downloaded the custom rom, you must first read the changelog before proceeding, to avoid complaining later
So if you can live without those missed features, and coexist with your new life
you will need google apps (aka. gapps) to have market and gmail account.
download them from here:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/view.jsp?locale=fr&key=94227110
then flash them via CWM recovery (mount system before proceeding).
abdovar said:
That's why it's called custom rom, the cooker of the project add some features, and remove others such as interface and keyboard languages, some crappy built-in apps (those whose seems useless in his point of view).
wherefore there where you downloaded the custom rom, you must first read the changelog before proceeding, to avoid complaining later
So if you can live without those missed features, and coexist with your new life
you will need google apps (aka. gapps) to have market and gmail account.
download them from here:
http://www65.zippyshare.com/view.jsp?locale=fr&key=94227110
then flash them via CWM recovery (mount system before proceeding).
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Tq bro. I did it but nothing changes. Tried install ginger keyboard but language still not appearing.

[PLEASE HELP] Lenovo K3 Note (K50-T5)

Hello to all guys , I just got this fantastic Lenovo phablet , but I do not like the translation and Vibe UI , I want to find a pure Android rom . I know that almost certainly there are devices that have the Lenovo compatible roms . Can anyone help me out ? :crying::crying::crying:
I have the same problem, I just changed to new version of VibeUI and had some problems with google apps HELP!
I'm pretty sure as this phone is, new rooting and roms are still being developed. Be patience.. or learn to make one yourself
To those who find this thread do be careful! I've already seen posts about people who have bricked this phone trying to root it.
Got the same phone. Liking the layout etc. Not the official VIBE UI rom.
It's set to English, but still finding Chinese icons/text everywhere.
Since I don't speak/read Chinese; issue...
Also sometimes laggy, due to lots of processes/apps running in the background, which can not be deleted or stopped.
Looking forward to when the community embraces this phone, and stock Android ROMS will be available on short term.
It's a (edit: potential!) flag-ship killer, in my eyes...
Hi,
I am trying to port cm12 to this device. It is the first time I am doing although I have previously created custom ROMs by editing system.img, so I am a noob.
I managed to get a stock rom: K50-T5_USR_ST1516_5.654.1_1504152228_MP6V3_CN.rar.
I have slightly modified build/tools/device/mkvendor.sh to be able to work with mediatek files which have a 512 bytes extra header.
I've triedt to create a recovery but I am not sure if it will work as I have some errors in the output
./build/tools/device/mkrecoveryzip.sh /home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp /home/vagrant/android/system/out/host/linux-x86/framework/signapk.jar
cp: cannot stat ‘/home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/recovery/root/etc’: No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat ‘/home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/recovery/root/sbin’: No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat ‘/home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/recovery/root/res’: No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat ‘/home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/system/bin/updater’: No such file or directory
zip -ry /home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/utilities/unsigned.zip . -x *\[* *\[\[*
adding: META-INF/ (stored 0%)
adding: META-INF/com/ (stored 0%)
adding: META-INF/com/google/ (stored 0%)
adding: META-INF/com/google/android/ (stored 0%)
adding: META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script (deflated 51%)
Error: Unable to access jarfile /home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/host/linux-x86/framework/signapk.jar
Recovery FakeFlash is now available at /home/vagrant/android/system//home/vagrant/android/system/out/target/product/aio_otfp/utilities/update.zip
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Should I copy anything from boot or recovery's ramdisk?
You can find attached the information I've been able to collect (info.txt and build.prop.txt) and build.log which was in a folder in the stock ROM.
Thanks
One Chinese port AOSP to K3-Note.
Its can be daily use and without any bug now. If somebody need it. Just try it.
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2842642895&uk=2251472345
Sent from my Lenovo K50-t5 using XDA Free mobile app
got it in cheinese
can you send a link to an english site?
AOSP
I got some questions
-is it multilanguage
-is it Android 5.0
-gapps included?
-can someone post some screens
Yours faithfully
LeetjeDanhoff said:
I got some questions
-is it multilanguage
-is it Android 5.0
-gapps included?
-can someone post some screens
Yours faithfully
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-yes
-yes
-only play store but that what important
-maybe later
This ROM is pretty laggy and the ram is mostly full, and the worse part is that it can't play any video or jifs. For now I will recomand not to install this ROM until it will be modify correctly. Link from megahttps://mega.co.nz/#!3UcAkaaK!uEtthUPkeD1q7T4Nyn0MFtpLe9AtwQf-lOwqtz5RU-I
Lenovo K3 Note T50-T5 multilang firmware
This is Lenovo K3 Note T50-T5 multilang firmware: kimmobile "dot" com/tin-tuc/rom-tieng-viet-lenovo-k3-note-k50-t5-lenovo-k3-note-k50-t5-multilang-firmware-id2674
System Update Problem
Hello,
When I go to the the About Phone settings I do not have the option to check for updates on my phone.
Please can you help?
Thank you,
Awais
AOSP based 5.0 build for the K3 Note
Nanj at a Chinese forum had released an AOSP based 5.0 build for the K3 Note
http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-551335-1-1.html (in Chinese but with captures)
The download link:
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hqAdrrY
No gapps are included. The build functions ok. Camera, phone / data, and wifi seem to work. However please note that there is an undesirable apk, posed as a system component, at /system/app/SystemServer/SystemServer.apk. It sends frequent packets back to 622b6.romdu.com in China, similar to the issue in another post for a different rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55315205&postcount=54
The ROM also comes with a Chinese version of the Opera browser, Oupeng, which also sends analytics packets in the background.
With the two programs removed suspicious packets are no longer obvious from logcat.
headuck said:
Nanj at a Chinese forum had released an AOSP based 5.0 build for the K3 Note
http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-551335-1-1.html (in Chinese but with captures)
The download link:
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hqAdrrY
No gapps are included. The build functions ok. Camera, phone / data, and wifi seem to work. However please note that there is an undesirable apk, posed as a system component, at /system/app/SystemServer/SystemServer.apk. It sends frequent packets back to 622b6.romdu.com in China, similar to the issue in another post for a different rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55315205&postcount=54
The ROM also comes with a Chinese version of the Opera browser, Oupeng, which also sends analytics packets in the background.
With the two programs removed suspicious packets are no longer obvious from logcat.
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Does notification led work?
LeetjeDanhoff said:
I got some questions
-is it multilanguage
-is it Android 5.0
-gapps included?
-can someone post some screens
Yours faithfully
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https://youtu.be/Wf4kkRq0ork review video on the K3 Note
cccho said:
One Chinese port AOSP to K3-Note.
Its can be daily use and without any bug now. If somebody need it. Just try it.
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2842642895&uk=2251472345
Sent from my Lenovo K50-t5 using XDA Free mobile app
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does it come with gapps?
narithlot said:
does it come with gapps?
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Sadly, no... But you can flash it with CWM
revert to stock ROM
Lataman said:
I have the same problem, I just changed to new version of VibeUI and had some problems with google apps HELP!
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you can revert to stock ROM
if you have stock Recovery(Not CWM)
then flash this whith stock recovery
this is official stock chinese/english ROM
https://mega.co.nz/#!MwAxGACR!CNyHABuPxbMpHTHRAhbYJWl_IO4z7jAz8szgIMGt_jQ
instuctions:
make sure you have stock recoveyr
then put this ROM on external memory card
rename the zip file to update.zip
then go to stock recovery select update
New VIBE UI
There has been a new update released by Lenovo.
VIBEUI_V2.5_1524_5.955.1_ST_K50-T5
I have not updated as of yet, for the reason being I am very dissatisfied with the VIBEUI. I currently run 1522, despite the obvious and numerous complications of using the Asian based firmware. I have had to replace the dialer and sms, mms apps as well as install a font manager, even so I am still unable to get 4G working. I would much prefer a pure Android rom and for the past month have been considering beginning a project to build a new Lollipop rom supporting the 67xx MTK chipsets. It would be my first attempt at doing so since all my previous phones have been LG, HTC and NEXUS devices which have always proved easy enough to manipulate and customize.
If anyone out there has experience in building custom roms, especially for devices using the newer 64bit Mediatek chipset, please feel free to contact me. I would appreciate any help offered in this endeavor and I know there are many other MTK device owners out there that are just waiting for someone, or a group of someones', to pioneer a solution for those of us in the western hemisphere using these MTK devices. I am constantly on the look out for new information and projects pertaining to this, additionally I have a dedicated computer with all the SDKs needed to begin the project.
PM me if you are interested in helping kick start this project. Thanks.
What is the significance of this ROM string? I see that "ST" prob means (stable).
Know what "CC", "WCA2" and "WCA8" means in these I found below?
Do you know where is the (official) location to find the latest English language ROM?
My proximity sensor is not working and I'm wondering if moving to a diff ROM will fix that.
VIBEUI_V2.5_1520_7.128.1_CC_K50-T5_WCA2.zip (Android 5.0)
VIBEUI_V2.5_11520_5.827.1_ST_K50_T5 (Android 5.0) <------ the one my phone came with; multi-language
VIBEUI_V2.5_1524_5.955.1_ST_K50-T5_WCA8.zip (???)
VIBEUI_V2.8_1526_7.80.1_CC_K50-T5.zip (VIBE 2.8, Android 5.1)
BurntCircuitz said:
There has been a new update released by Lenovo.
VIBEUI_V2.5_1524_5.955.1_ST_K50-T5
I have not updated as of yet, for the reason being I am very dissatisfied with the VIBEUI. I currently run 1522, despite the obvious and numerous complications of using the Asian based firmware. I have had to replace the dialer and sms, mms apps as well as install a font manager, even so I am still unable to get 4G working. I would much prefer a pure Android rom and for the past month have been considering beginning a project to build a new Lollipop rom supporting the 67xx MTK chipsets. It would be my first attempt at doing so since all my previous phones have been LG, HTC and NEXUS devices which have always proved easy enough to manipulate and customize.
If anyone out there has experience in building custom roms, especially for devices using the newer 64bit Mediatek chipset, please feel free to contact me. I would appreciate any help offered in this endeavor and I know there are many other MTK device owners out there that are just waiting for someone, or a group of someones', to pioneer a solution for those of us in the western hemisphere using these MTK devices. I am constantly on the look out for new information and projects pertaining to this, additionally I have a dedicated computer with all the SDKs needed to begin the project.
PM me if you are interested in helping kick start this project. Thanks.
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Here where you can find the Rooting and Custom ROMs
https://www.reddit.com/r/lenovok3note/wiki/index
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4PQqRXSUa4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCwMQkX-1sw

What is currently the "best" (state of the art) ROM for EU64bit MSM8916 ??

Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
You might try to ask the tech support what is in this update for example the MMS fix surely feels like must have (well known by now mms bug allowing to execute a code send by mms) but if that something you could manage to dodge on your own then just ignore it.
About the ROM with some nice looks n feels well we don't have any TBH we don't have any so called "daily driver" at all but I can suggest installing a custom launcher some of the more liked ones were on sale not so long ago you just have to track the app sales
I don't suggest any cause I don't know the forum rules regard the advertising.
Edit: There's Cyanogenmod 12 but it's bugged, not something u want to use daily.
ioy said:
Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
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There's only 1 rom available for the 64 bit and that's the one patrik made the cm12 and it has a good amount of bugs so it's not suggested as a daily driver yet. Nothing else but that and stock.

Root? Yes or No? Why?

Hello everyone. Those days I feel some to root my phone (ALE-L21 6.0 Dual SIM) to install custom ROMs like LineageOS with Android Nougat and use apps like WPS WPA Tester but other some I feel not because I'm still in warranty time (it ends after 1 year + the warranty isn't in my country) and I never rooted any device or even used Android (my lase phone was Nokia 110) so today I wanna to know why root is useful and why not and what can I use it for and what's the root dangerous? I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs? Like Radio FM doesn't work, screen recorder doesn't work or even has a bug?
AmirGTX said:
I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs?
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Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
keikari said:
I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
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1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
fosco_ said:
IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
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What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
AmirGTX said:
1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
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Well I forgot to tell most important reason, because you can : D
Nowdays that's prety much all the stuf that matters for regular user.
Maybe bagroundplayback for youtube if it isn't already possible with regular app.
And it's kind of a plus that you can back backup your full system in TWRP, thought main reson for backups is that you are testing something unstable or new stuff which you can only do with unlocked bootloader.
PS. Your logic in 4 is kind of weird XDD
And dpi is kind of like resolution of screen but still very different but you can think of it as a weird resolution setting
Azzureux said:
Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
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Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
AmirGTX said:
What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
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Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
AmirGTX said:
Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
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I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
fosco_ said:
Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
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Oh alright +1, why I need root else? (I'm just collecting info b4 rooting my device)
Azzureux said:
I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
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Awesome, that's why I want to root it but I'm still waiting until LineageOS be available and stable without bugs for me. I bought my phone last year and updated it to MM 6.0 at 7 month of last year, now I have UPDATE.APP (got it from here) it has no bugs and too stable for me. So I saw tutorials here for rooting my device but it were too much big and I need to use my computer. NP if I used my computer but can't I root it using apps suck as KingRoot and then install the ROM? Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation. I want to know to be deep for such as problems. Thanks for info
AmirGTX said:
Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation.
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Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
Azzureux said:
Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
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Extremely awesome and thanks a lot. I want to start to learn about root but IDK from where can I start! There are no way to root any Android emulator and learn from it or executing on main device would be more stable?
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
ItalianWolf said:
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
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Ciao amico mio ? (some Italian from school ?) can you give me a tutorial for this? I need to try. Also why there are a lot of stuffs to root ALE-L21? What if I used apps such as KingRoot?
Ciao!
Kingroot, if it's working again, isn't a good root solution; i've tried (we were with lollipop) but messed up a lot of things so i had to re-flash stock firmware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/mega-thread-root-unbricking-updating-t3400994
Yes for :
Tweak kernel, install AdAway and remove preinstalled apps.
personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
panchovix said:
personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
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I don't like normal things, I need to be special that's why I think to root my device. I'm neither pro nor newer. So I need to know if I rooted my device what will I do else custom ROMs and block ads and remove system apps?

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