Can anyone confirm whether the Sprint variant of the Note 5 can be used on Verizon when unlocked?
None of the Sprint phones will work on Verizon since Verizon requires SIM cards.
Bummer, are there any Note 5 models that, unlocked, will work with Verizon's network? Their native variant reportedly bricks upon root, so I'm trying to avoid that.
There is a theory that the T-Mobile version will work (likely only the 4G radio) on the Verizon network.
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its unlocked non rooted?
No you can not. Sprint, like Verizon operate on a CDMA network while ATT and T-Mobile operate on a. GSM network.
Afraid not. Sorry. They use different bands. Plus Sprint doesn't use SIM cards
Hi everyone, I'm thinking about getting a moto x but I dont know which carrier version to pick.
I currently have a droid 4 on verizon and I'm looking to ditch verizon in favor of straight talk in june.
My issue is that they're having a sale on the moto maker site and I dont know weather to choose a Verizon one to use untill my plan stops or if I should get the T-Mobile or at&t version so it will work better with straight talk when the time comes to change.
Something to consider is that 1. T-Mobile has pretty spotty coverage in my area 2. I dont think the moto x can be activated as cdma for straight talk.
Some other questions I have are 1. will a T-Mobile version work just fine on at&t? 2. are there any reasons I should pick an at&t branded one? 3. Are there any reasons i shouldn't pick the verizon version?
thank you for your time
Correct me on this if needed, but all Verizon phones are sim unlocked and work with GSM per FCC agreement. So you could get that version, but I would check it first when receiving it to see if it work with a GSM sim, if not you can get an RMA for a refund. The Verizon edition have the 3G bands to work with ATT, it lacks T-Mobile AWS 3G band (1700). Also it only support LTE band 13, it doesn't support LTE bands 2, 4 or 17 that come with the GSM unlocked version, so you will not get LTE on ATT or T-Mobile.
There is zero reason to get the ATT version what so ever, none, zilch. It's sim locked (though you could ask ATT to unlock it I guess), cannot unlock bootloader. The T-Mobile version is actually the unlocked version, it support every bands required by ATT, both 3G and LTE. T-Mobile version have unlocked sim and bootloader, doesn't have carrier logo nor carrier bloatwares.
Then there is the unlocked GSM Developer Edition which allow you to unlock bootloader without losing warranty, is similar to regular T-Mobile unlocked edition, except that it lacks T-Mobile AWS 3G band. You can get the Dev edition for Verizon as well which have the same bands support as the regular Verizon version. You can not unlock the bootloader for the regular version of ATT and Verizon.
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Thank you for the clarification, looks like im going the t-mobile route
eksasol said:
Correct me on this if needed, but all Verizon phones are sim unlocked and work with GSM per FCC agreement. So you could get that version, but I would check it first when receiving it to see if it work with a GSM sim, if not you can get an RMA for a refund. The Verizon edition have the 3G bands to work with ATT, it lacks T-Mobile AWS 3G band (1700). Also it only support LTE band 13, it doesn't support LTE bands 2, 4 or 17 that come with the GSM unlocked version, so you will not get LTE on ATT or T-Mobile.
There is zero reason to get the ATT version what so ever, none, zilch. It's sim locked (though you could ask ATT to unlock it I guess), cannot unlock bootloader. The T-Mobile version is actually the unlocked version, it support every bands required by ATT, both 3G and LTE. T-Mobile version have unlocked sim and bootloader, doesn't have carrier logo nor carrier bloatwares.
Then there is the unlocked GSM Developer Edition which allow you to unlock bootloader without losing warranty, is similar to regular T-Mobile unlocked edition, except that it lacks T-Mobile AWS 3G band. You can get the Dev edition for Verizon as well which have the same bands support as the regular Verizon version. You can not unlock the bootloader for the regular version of ATT and Verizon.
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So you're saying I could get the Verizon Dev Moto X, and theoretically toss a ATT SIM in it and it will work on ATT (3G-only)? Has anyone tried this?
I can't guarantee it, but that should be the case, all new Verizon phones have unlocked sim on the GSM side, if they don't they would violate the FCC agreement.
We had a discussion on this, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551692
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Not sure if this is the correct forum but I can't seem to find anything about using VZ G4 on T-mobile? I don't mind if it need to be rooted, just want a stable setting that I can do. TIA.
Unless something has changed lately, you can't. Verizon uses CDMA for its voice network and T-Mobile uses GSM.
With that being said, the only way I've seen any Verizon phone being used on a GSM network is if the phone supports a SIM card (and I'm not sure the SIM card for the LTE counts) and the phone is unlocked to use international SIM cards (which, by default, will allow it to use T-Mobile). There's a catch to that, however. You may not be able to use the optimum frequencies T-Mobile uses if the Verizon phone doesn't support them, which may cause a less than desirable experience with your phone.
An unlocked AT&T G4 would be a better bet. Some international versions of the phone may also be better than the Verizon version. You'll have to do some research on the last one.
In the past I know Verizon would let their cdma/gsm phones work with international sim cards but not att or t-mobile. The verizon g4 supports lte bands 2 and 4 and that's the two main bands that t-mobile uses. It's not clear from the tech specs if the phone supports wcdma but if it does not you might drop to edge while on a call.
like tkirton said you would be much better off with a phone that's intended mainly for GSM. t-mobile branded phones, newer nexus phones(6 and later), and the iphone also have the advantage of volte and wifi calling.
My Verizon G2 worked on T-Mobile and Cricket which as both GSM. I got LTE also, but you'll loose LTE on calls, and probably won't have HD voice. So, G4 might be the same.
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My Verizon G2 worked on T-Mobile and Cricket which as both GSM. I got LTE also, but you'll loose LTE on calls, and probably won't have HD voice. So, G4 might be the same.
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i can backup/confirm this, i was using the G2 (VS980 Verizon) with T-mobile and i was getting nice LTE Speed in my area but loose some T-Mo features of course....
Hello everyone! I am trying to switch over to Straight Talk because my current carrier, nTelos, has been bought by Shentel and I was told that my current phone could not be used on the new network. Even though nTelos goes off of both the Sprint and Verizon network, my phone will not be able to use the new network that is owned by Sprint. (Which honestly confuses me since my phone has been running off the nTelos, Sprint, and Verizon networks just fine.)
Anyways, I was wondering if it was possible to use the AT&T or T-Mobile sim cards that come with the Straight Talk activation kit. I am wondering because AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon all use 1900MHz on band 2 for LTE. Also, the AT&T and T-Mobile variants have some of the same LTE bands as the nTelos variant. So, is it possible or should I just stick to the Verizon sim card that came with the activation kit?
Never mind. I can't get any of the sim cards in the kit to work with the phone.
It was briefly discussed before just want to clarify, there are plenty of GSM versions of Note 4, I have T-Mobile so would like to know which ones aside of SM-910T would work. I can verify that AT&T SM-N910A works fine, what else is good?
SM-N910R4 US Cellular not sure whether they are GSM
SM-N910P Sprint has a SIM card slot not sure what they are...
SM-N910V Verizon has a SIM card slot not sure what they are...
There is also SM-N910W8 (other Canada and PR GSM operators)?
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It was briefly discussed before just want to clarify, there are plenty of GSM versions of Note 4, I have T-Mobile so would like to know which ones aside of SM-910T would work. I can verify that AT&T SM-N910A works fine, what else is good?
SM-N910R4 US Cellular not sure whether they are GSM
SM-N910P Sprint has a SIM card slot not sure what they are...
SM-N910V Verizon has a SIM card slot not sure what they are...
There is also SM-N910W8 (other Canada and PR GSM operators)?
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As far as the Verizon and Sprint versions go, I am not sure if they support falling back to GSM/UMTS when no LTE coverage is available. These providers never used GSM/UMTS for their 2G/3G networks instead they used CDMA so that is probably what these phones support. Most likely the N910T or the AT&T version of the Note4 will be your best bet for on the T-Mobile network. A quick google search for US Celluar says that they also used CDMA, so their variant is probably in the same boat as the Sprint/Verizon phones. If you are really looking for something different look up the Note 4 Duos, was a dual sim phone released in Hong Kong and possibly other variants in Asia. My understanding is it only supports LTE/3G/2G on one SIM and 2G only on the 2nd SIM however.
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as far as the verizon and sprint versions go, i am not sure if they support falling back to gsm/umts when no lte coverage is available. These providers never used gsm/umts for their 2g/3g networks instead they used cdma so that is probably what these phones support. Most likely the n910t or the at&t version of the note4 will be your best bet for on the t-mobile network. A quick google search for us celluar says that they also used cdma, so their variant is probably in the same boat as the sprint/verizon phones. If you are really looking for something different look up the note 4 duos, was a dual sim phone released in hong kong and possibly other variants in asia. My understanding is it only supports lte/3g/2g on one sim and 2g only on the 2nd sim however.
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att note 4 can't be rooted