Dear all,
I'm in the market for a waterproof phone and the z3c has all the features I want (except dual sim). But I really want a custom-rom to better protect my privacy. So what to buy? I've been without ANY phone for a week since my old died because I can't make up my mind
From what I read on all kinds of fora it appears to me that the z3c might not be a wise choice if I intent to run custom-roms on it (and still want a well functioning camera)? I really want bluetooth and decent camera performance.
In general, it seems that custom roms are a bigger pain on the z3c than on other devices, but I was unable to even find if this problem is specific to the z3 series, a general xperia problem, or a general problem with recent smartphones (and what is recent?).
Could anyone comment on this?
Many thanks for your kind help!!!
marcaber said:
Dear all,
I'm in the market for a waterproof phone and the z3c has all the features I want (except dual sim). But I really want a custom-rom to better protect my privacy. So what to buy? I've been without ANY phone for a week since my old died because I can't make up my mind
From what I read on all kinds of fora it appears to me that the z3c might not be a wise choice if I intent to run custom-roms on it (and still want a well functioning camera)? I really want bluetooth and decent camera performance.
In general, it seems that custom roms are a bigger pain on the z3c than on other devices, but I was unable to even find if this problem is specific to the z3 series, a general xperia problem, or a general problem with recent smartphones (and what is recent?).
Could anyone comment on this?
Many thanks for your kind help!!!
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You should read a little bit more.... Because all the answers are on the fora.
Anyway, the camera + custom rom problem is a more general problem to Xperia phones because of post processing of images which is not possible on a unlocked bootloader.
But you really do not need a custom rom on the z3c, which makes it an amazing phone for me.
I run Lollipop, debloated with @moly82 debloat script + xposed + apex launcher + #nochromo. This gives an almost AOSP experience and with xposed ofcourse you can add almost any custom rom feature to your Z3c (I use Xprivacy for privacy, gravitybox, xperiaxposed etc.)
So to conclude: You do not need a custom rom at all when you have Xposed working perfectly on the Z3C.... also, that way you have amazing battery life Better then any custom rom can deliver.
Robin>Hood said:
You should read a little bit more.... Because all the answers are on the fora.
Anyway, the camera + custom rom problem is a more general problem to Xperia phones because of post processing of images which is not possible on a unlocked bootloader.
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I'm sure the answer is somewhere in the fora, so sorry for that. But quite frankly it's hard to know where to start - xda is huge and there's other fora as well. Plus search terms alone can take the form of D5803, Z3c or Z3 compact for the model alone...
Robin>Hood said:
But you really do not need a custom rom on the z3c, which makes it an amazing phone for me.
I run Lollipop, debloated with @moly82 debloat script + xposed + apex launcher + #nochromo. This gives an almost AOSP experience and with xposed ofcourse you can add almost any custom rom feature to your Z3c (I use Xprivacy for privacy, gravitybox, xperiaxposed etc.)
So to conclude: You do not need a custom rom at all when you have Xposed working perfectly on the Z3C.... also, that way you have amazing battery life Better then any custom rom can deliver.
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That sounds great!! The custom rom would be just because of privacy concerns - I want google out of my phone as much as possible, but I'm not willing to experiment with non android operating systems (yet).
Thanks for the info, so far everybody seemed quite frustrated with the z3c, you're the first positive voice!
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Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
I can not compare models and I might have other needs than you (I am not a gamer). But considered the age of this phone, an used one can not be expensive, and there are some great fast and stable ROMs out there and there is ongoing development.
Furthermore, it is impossible to brick: you can change bootloader (it can not be locked), ROM and kernel as much as you like and there are excellent tools for doing so. Try to look at my post here.
You have to understand, it is not a state of the art phone, and in order to use all features (BT and HDMI-output), you will probably have to run a ROM based on an older CM version. Please note that CM has not released stable versions since CM7.2, and will not, but some have managed to modify CM10-CM10.2 to run on p990.
I am very happy with the phone and like to follow development on this forum!
technostein said:
Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
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Here are my 2 cents. The main problem that plagues this otherwise quite likeable device is the RAM, or lack thereof. CPU as well as GPU are quite powerful despite being almost 3 years old.
Though one thing that goes in its favour, as you rightly mentioned, is the support of awesome developers. Guys like pengus77, tonyp, jishnu, sreeprajay, spyrosk & all the usual suspects have done such a awesome job of the utilizing every single ounce of its potential to the fullest.
It's usually fast as long as you manage your resources well. Don't allow too many services chewing precious RAM in the background. Using apps like "Greenify" comes quite handy to achieve the same.
Still, not a bad device to tinker around as long as one doesn't set his expectations a bit too high. Personally, I would suggest you to choose Sensation over this primarily for more available RAM. Having said that, Sensation has its own fair share of issues too like the infamous "death grip".
Basically choose your poison
Sorry to interrupt, but i'm in the same situation. Just changed my phone, and i like this one a lot more than a newer Samsung.
I'm looking for a rom, anything above CM7.2, preferrable 10.x at least with HDMI, BT and WiFi hotspot working.
I have flashed about 5 roms on the above CM10.x and everyone is missing a different thing, be it camera, BT or WiFi hotspot, even battery eating issues. (why no one makes a full one?)
And all lack HDMI.
I would use even a rom based on ICS if it has everything on it's place.
Altough, i really liked the new lock screen on CM10.2 meanwhile overclocking and Kowalsky opened a few doors.
Does anyone know of any mostly stable rom closest to this?
Which would be the newest ROM of any flavor with everything working and no battery issues?
I tried quite a few ROMs & here's my set-up. The best so far I could find in terms of performance, stability & battery life was pengus77's "Unofficial CM 10 ROM" coupled with his own Kowalski M1 Stable Kernel.
Though being primarily a CM10 based ROM which is a derivative of 4.1.2, it will not have lock screen widgets if that's the thing you really care about. As far as camera is concerned, I use jishnu sur's camera mod.
Thanks for your answer and my apologies for the thread opener for the kidnap.
I dont care much for the lockscreen widgets. Is just something that could be helpful.
I'm having real trouble with battery life when 3g enabled, overnight my battery drop about 1%, today i enabled 3g and tt went down by almost 30% in only 2 hours. Quite dissapointing issue.
By any chance do you know where could i find more info. about HDMI not working issue? I can't believe that no one ported the driver or worked it out since it appeared.
Frankly, I have neither tested HDMI out function nor it has any real world use in my case. My best guess is it'll work with Stock based Custom ROMs & stock ROM itself of course. You may test it out with Pengus77's ROM if it works.
why don't you want to downgrade to another better phone, for example to Xperia M it's really cheaper and much better than Optimus 2x.
So I have a Nexus 5 that's screen is dying for the second time and I'm considering my options including a replacement phone. The Z3c is obviously a great spec phone and nicely built... I'm attracted to it by it sensible size also. The Nexus 5 I'm coming from is about the limit of size I'm willing to go. However I'm afraid of moving from the open world of easily being able to install custom ROM's and do whatever I like to the phone. I've read up on what's involved in doing this on the Z3c but I still have some reservations:
How stable are the ROM's available for the Z3c, I'm really just interested in a close to stock ROM with bloatware removed, I'n not looking for experimental features/customisations. I've used Cyanogenmod before on another device, and other ROMs and there always seemed to be something that never worked quite as well as the stock ROM. (CM had bluetooth problems for me)
If you go the route of unlocking the bootloader, are the DRM protected features that are lost deal-breaking? Is it possible to achieve what I want (clean ROM, root) without unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks for your help in advance!
I am facing prettu much the same problem...
But i am moving away from a lg g2. ( it does not have the best custom rom support, but it works)
Anyway, i am willing to give a shot to the stock sony android... because of the DRM keys..
Well.. lets see what the people have to say!
RoryHa said:
How stable are the ROM's available for the Z3c, I'm really just interested in a close to stock ROM with bloatware removed, I'n not looking for experimental features/customisations. I've used Cyanogenmod before on another device, and other ROMs and there always seemed to be something that never worked quite as well as the stock ROM. (CM had bluetooth problems for me)
If you go the route of unlocking the bootloader, are the DRM protected features that are lost deal-breaking? Is it possible to achieve what I want (clean ROM, root) without unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks for your help in advance!
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1: The Roms here are really stable and most of them are close to stock Roms so you won't have to worry about that, since most of them are near stock Roms you won't have to worry about the stability either.
2: Only you can judge if you're going to miss the DRM features, I didn't and still don't I couldn't wait for root, so I unlocked my BL and I never regretted my choice.
The only downside to this phone is the camera in my opinion, so gather some info about the camera first.
When unlocking the BL you also lose some camera quality (only really noticeable in low light conditions tho).
See my topic (in sig) for pictures).
And you don't have to unlock your BL at all if you don't want to, only if you want to use another Kernel.
Thanks for the info
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The only downside to this phone is the camera in my opinion, so gather some info about the camera first.
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I had a look at the photo there and they are not as good as I thought the camera is.. still they are not bad. The Nexus 5 I currently have is not amazing either so it's not really a deal breaker for me. It seems to be the one thing all non-flagship phones compromise on is the quality of the camera.
Hi,
I'm picking up a Xperia Z1 C6903 for a friend. She basically checks email and takes photos with her phone, so Camera/Video and Battery Life are priority.
Can anyone please recommend a good Rom and/or Mods for me.
I usually get more obscure phones for myself (never had a Sony) without so many options of mods and custom roms, so its a bit harder than I'm used to to sort through the pages on XDA... there so much to go through here so any help to narrow things down a bit for me would be appreciated.
Thanks!
rich333 said:
Hi,
I'm picking up a Xperia Z1 C6903 for a friend. She basically checks email and takes photos with her phone, so Camera/Video and Battery Life are priority.
Can anyone please recommend a good Rom and/or Mods for me.
I usually get more obscure phones for myself (never had a Sony) without so many options of mods and custom roms, so its a bit harder than I'm used to to sort through the pages on XDA... there so much to go through here so any help to narrow things down a bit for me would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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If you /she is not big fan of custom ROM (aospa, paranoid, CM, DU, PAC etc.) I would say just root the phone and use stock ROM.
Stock ROM is best for battery and photos together.
Rooting is good in case she wants Xposed and all the modules.
Don't unlock the bootloader since this will remove some propriety code for display and camera.
I haven't used any stock ROM so can't talk about them.
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Thanks, I often find custom roms better for battery life. And can see that there's a few camera mods available. So I assumed a custom rom (either with a Stock based or not?) and camera mod would be the way to go? Also, is the stock camera app the best performer (in terms of image quality?)
Really can't see any need to meddle with the standard rom.
The Xperia range of phones all have outstanding battery life and excellent photo/video software built in as standard.
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I was thinking this sound good: [MOD] Z1, Z1C & Z1S 8th Edition - Camera… | Sony Xperia Z1....
And there seems to be a few scripts which claim to improve battery life & speed like Fly-on-Mod...
I guess i'm just not used to stock being the best option!!! I cant help but want to change something
If you want to meddle then root and Xposed would be the simplest option.
But given the original criteria are already met by the standard rom and the fact that it's not your phone I still can't see the need.
Do you really want your friend coming to you with every minor niggle they can dream up, thinking that you caused it by modifying their phone?
Just make sure they upgrade to 5.1.1 which is due out any day now.
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thanks.
I've got it running stock KK, rooted, locked bootloader with xposed & dual recovery.
I decided not to update to LP until 5.1.1 is out (any day now it seems...?) due to slow downs in 5.0.2
From what I can see I'll have to update with Flashtool (if I can find the "Customized AU" file) or updated via Sony PC Companion and re-root & re-install recovery.
will both methods will result in a data wipe?
When it does come out - is there a way to update without loosing here data/settings? & will current rooting methods still work (I used easy root?)
Thanks for your help everyone!
Hi guys,
My knowledge of ROMs and rooting isn't the best so please bare with me if this question seems dumb. And before anyone says, I have read this thread (and countless others) but would like some clarification.
I've always wanted to install CyanogenMod to my Z3 Compact because my car, an E46 BMW has not been able to pair with my phone since 4.2.2 when a change to bluetooth.default.so was made - Cyanogenmod has the fix.
I have seen recent posts on this forum that suggest if the phone is rooted and a custom ROM is installed, I'm still able to maintain my camera quality which previously was limited (fish-eye effect and low light poor quality) due to the loss of DRM'd software due to a DRM restore fix created by one of the forum members. Is this correct? This was the only thing that ever stopped me rooting my Z3 as camera quality is of high importance to me.
I've been using an iPhone 5s since my screen smashed last month and I planned to buy an iPhone 6s this weekend but if it seems I can use the Z3 Compact for all purposes ( In-car Bluetooth, stable Android, good camera and battery life) then I will definitely get the screen repaired tomorrow!
Thanks in advance.
This is a link explaining the Bluetooth issue I'm talking about.
tsmr said:
Hi guys,
My knowledge of ROMs and rooting isn't the best so please bare with me if this question seems dumb. And before anyone says, I have read this thread (and countless others) but would like some clarification.
I've always wanted to install CyanogenMod to my Z3 Compact because my car, an E46 BMW has not been able to pair with my phone since 4.2.2 when a change to bluetooth.default.so was made - Cyanogenmod has the fix.
I have seen recent posts on this forum that suggest if the phone is rooted and a custom ROM is installed, I'm still able to maintain my camera quality which previously was limited (fish-eye effect and low light poor quality) due to the loss of DRM'd software due to a DRM restore fix created by one of the forum members. Is this correct? This was the only thing that ever stopped me rooting my Z3 as camera quality is of high importance to me.
I've been using an iPhone 5s since my screen smashed last month and I planned to buy an iPhone 6s this weekend but if it seems I can use the Z3 Compact for all purposes ( In-car Bluetooth, stable Android, good camera and battery life) then I will definitely get the screen repaired tomorrow!
Thanks in advance.
This is a link explaining the Bluetooth issue I'm talking about.
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It is true, I am using DRM fix for my Z3c because I didn't backup my DRM keys (duh!) and the camera quality seems perfect, although the fix says it also restores X-Reality and whatnot but I haven't got to get the engine working, I fixed that with Color Control to match my saturation and colors needs...
As for the Bluetooth issues, I've kinda experienced problems with it too, I have a Bluetooth gamepad, and whenever I'm playing an Android game that supports controllers, it disconnects, but when I play on emulators it doesn't happen... I don't know if there's a fix for that but oh well.
DRM fix works only on stock based roms and on Concept roms.
It doesn't work on custom roms like Cyanogenmod.
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DRM fix works only on stock based roms and on Concept roms.
It doesn't work on custom roms like Cyanogenmod.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't actually need CyanogenMod, I just need to be able to edit the bluetooth.default.so file as per the thread I linked so that in-car Bluetooth works with my handset. Is this possible whilst maintaining camera quality?
Also when you say 'only works on stock based ROMs' - does this mean that I could install stock Android 6.0 to my device with a custom bluetooth.default.so file, then install the DRM fix and it will work as normal? This would be amazing!
PS. What is a Concept ROM?
I'm so sorry for asking what are most probably stupid questions but I'm fairly new to the Android scene thus still learning.
Of course its possible, you don't need unlocked bootloader to edit system files lol. Unlock bootloaders are used to install custom kernels or firmwares not made by Sony, like CyanogenMod or AOKP and etc.
Concept, is the "Alpha" Edition of Marshmallow that Sony plans to ship out within the next few months, they let a select a number of people to test out the rom and help them debug it. I don't recommend installing it as it is near beta stage and the number of bugs really don't make it suitable as a daily driver for you phone, stick with Lollipop until we get the official stable update unless you know what you're doing.
Good luck!
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Of course its possible, you don't need unlocked bootloader to edit system files lol. Unlock bootloaders are used to install custom kernels or firmwares not made by Sony, like CyanogenMod or AOKP and etc.
Concept, is the "Alpha" Edition of Marshmallow that Sony plans to ship out within the next few months, they let a select a number of people to test out the rom and help them debug it. I don't recommend installing it as it is near beta stage and the number of bugs really don't make it suitable as a daily driver for you phone, stick with Lollipop until we get the official stable update unless you know what you're doing.
Good luck!
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Thanks for explaining what Concept is. I guess that's not something that I need right now! To clarify; are you saying that to be able to edit system files, I don't need to unlock my bootloader? I was under the impression that to do this I'd need to:
a) Unlock bootloader.
b) Root device.
c) Access/edit the bluetooth system files.
Any advice on the steps I need to take to have my Z3 Compact work with my car whilst maintaining original camera quality would be much appreciated!
PS. Due to the prompt, positive responses in this thread, I've just taken my Z3 to a local to store so the screen can be repaired. Thanks all for the help - such good folk!
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Thanks for the reply. I don't actually need CyanogenMod, I just need to be able to edit the bluetooth.default.so file as per the thread I linked so that in-car Bluetooth works with my handset. Is this possible whilst maintaining camera quality?
Also when you say 'only works on stock based ROMs' - does this mean that I could install stock Android 6.0 to my device with a custom bluetooth.default.so file, then install the DRM fix and it will work as normal? This would be amazing!
PS. What is a Concept ROM?
I'm so sorry for asking what are most probably stupid questions but I'm fairly new to the Android scene thus still learning.
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If you need only the root in order to work on that bluetooth file, you can do it without unlocking the bootloader.
Follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
You will be able to get root without losing DRM keys and else you will make a backup of DRM keys So, if in the future you need/want to unlock the bootloader, you have a safe copy of your keys. :good:
istux said:
If you need only the root in order to work on that bluetooth file, you can do it without unlocking the bootloader.
Follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
You will be able to get root without losing DRM keys and else you will make a backup of DRM keys So, if in the future you need/want to unlock the bootloader, you have a safe copy of your keys. :good:
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Thank you so much. Will try this in the morning and hopefully I will be able to use Bluetooth in my car once again!
tsmr said:
My knowledge of ROMs and rooting isn't the best[...]I have seen recent posts on this forum that suggest if the phone is rooted and a custom ROM is installed, I'm still able to maintain my camera quality[...]camera quality is of high importance to me
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My suggestion (solely based on the points your described):
Either get a Z3c and stick to stock ROM
Or get an iPhone (seriously)
Now don't get me wrong, I am not being against custom ROMs. I am running CM myself and the first think I do before buying any android phone is to check if it has official CM support But you need to know that custom ROMs come with their own cost, and it depends whether you're willing to pay the price.
Reasons for my suggestion to you is that the road to unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs is a rough one. You'll be adding more mods and flashing more updates and you quickly end up with a phone which gets into the way and needs constant maintenance. Then there are issues with warranty, security, bugs, etc. Checking the forums for changelogs, kernels and ROMs will become a normal routine.
If you're regular user who wants his/her phone to just work, accept one of my suggestion and save yourself some pain. However, you might choose to be adventurous, then welcome to the community
PS: I'm myself exploring Z3c and iPhone 5s for my next phone.
Honestly, the road to rooting and properly running a rooted software is really not that long and rocky if you follow the linked thread perfectly. You also don't NEED to unlock the BL to get most of the advantages (there are many pre-rooted customized ROMs available without needing an unlocked BL). Follow the thread, stick to a good stable ROM or customization (I'm on Max Fury right now and she did some amazing work, check it out), and you'll be just fine. My BL is not even unlockable, doesn't bother me one bit. You can use Nova for a more Google-ish feel, and Sony's 5.1.1 is already pretty good at not being "Sony-fied".
Anyhow, this is the best phone I've ever owned, not looking back (I've had MANY more than just in my signature).
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- if you follow the linked thread perfectly
- you also don't NEED to unlock the BL to get most of the advantages (it's upto you to figure out that just which advantages follow under that "most" category)
- follow the thread
- stick to a good stable ROM or customization (it's upto you to figure out whether you need a rom or customization)
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Thanks. This proves my point even more! Now just compare this to getting a phone that just works
Although ROM customization is a beautiful and powerful idea, it's not for everyone, and comes at a cost (read: complexity). If anyone is ready to handle the complexity, please dive right in
Please don't mistake me. I'm not trying to disrespect the devs or offend custom ROM users, I'm both. I'm just trying to list down the pros and cons.
Hello everyone!
As i know SLIMM is the best ROM for this device. But now it is discontinued, so there is the question: is it still the best?
And please owners of this device who tried different ROMs, give the advice, which one should I install (i want to install stock based custom MM ROM).
For me in priority is functionality, stability and performance coupled with good battery life.
So I have a question about kernel: should I install EliteKernel 3 instead stock kernel (or maybe Advanced Stock kernel)?
I'm not a newbie, but there are really a lot of ROMs and i'm a bit confused...
Also, are there some good MODs for this device(like Cyberian Camera)?
P.S. Sorry for my not ideal english.
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Hello everyone!
As i know SLIMM is the best ROM for this device. But now it is discontinued, so there is the question: is it still the best?
And please owners of this device who tried different ROMs, give the advice, which one should I install (i want to install stock based custom MM ROM).
For me in priority is functionality, stability and performance coupled with good battery life.
So I have a question about kernel: should I install EliteKernel 3 instead stock kernel (or maybe Advanced Stock kernel)?
I'm not a newbie, but there are really a lot of ROMs and i'm a bit confused...
Also, are there some good MODs for this device(like Cyberian Camera)?
P.S. Sorry for my not ideal english.
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I use Concept Plus ROM with the Kernel 12c custom kernel.
Having an amazing experience with it so far.
The only problem I have is bluetooth headphones but if you dont use bluetooth accessories this shouldn't matter much.
For camera mods I use Cyberian(yes even if not compatible).
Even though it ain't compatible part of it does work,the camera app which comes with the mod doesn't work but everything else does. The camera snaps photos much faster and overall better quality.
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I use Concept Plus ROM with the Kernel 12c custom kernel.
Having an amazing experience with it so far.
The only problem I have is bluetooth headphones but if you dont use bluetooth accessories this shouldn't matter much.
For camera mods I use Cyberian(yes even if not compatible).
Even though it ain't compatible part of it does work,the camera app which comes with the mod doesn't work but everything else does. The camera snaps photos much faster and overall better quality.
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I only consider stock based ROMs. Now I choose between SLIMM, EXPERIENCE, MX ROM and EXISTENZ. I want to know the main differences and which ROM is better.
2muchpain said:
I only consider stock based ROMs. Now I choose between SLIMM, EXPERIENCE, MX ROM and EXISTENZ. I want to know the main differences and which ROM is better.
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Mate Concept ROM Plus is based on Sony's Concept Software,it is theoretically stock.
But between those I would go Existenz.
Dinkec27 said:
Mate Concept ROM Plus is based on Sony's Concept Software,it is theoretically stock.
But between those I would go Existenz.
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Please, explain why.
2muchpain said:
Please, explain why.
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Well I haven't used it personally but I believe it was definitely the most popular and best ROM for Z2 before it was ported to Z3c.
It has lots and lots of customization options as you may have saw.
And by reading the thread replies from all of these ROMs,I have saw that people don't really complain much about issues regarding ExistenZ rom.
The best way to know is to try it out,create a backup and flash the ROM,if it ain't working well revert back to your backup and you are solid.
Concept Rom may sometimes get weird. By that I mean it had the lollipop's YouTube and Video Recording issue, though that can be fixed by changing some system file parameters. I used Concept and I loved the design, stock Google design and I loved it. I've used SliMM for ages. Whenever I tried a new ROM I just had to revert back to SliMM. Because it has the best battery life for me with the best performance. I'm using ExistenZ ROM now, hadn't have any issues but to be honest, battery life is worse than SliMM also the performance too (even though a little bit). I'm using ExistenZ right now because it has many customizations in itself which means lack of many xposed modules, which means (somewhat) better stability. I'm thinking of reverting back to SliMM though, FYI. I tried the EXPERIENCE ROM too. And it was a total disaster for me. Because I didn't like the modifications that Marilia has made into the ROM and I simply couldn't live with it, the phone felt a bit too childish. All in all, the best was always SliMM for me. If you have any question, shoot it mate! (I haven't tried the MX ROM)
marshalpear said:
Concept Rom may sometimes get weird. By that I mean it had the lollipop's YouTube and Video Recording issue, though that can be fixed by changing some system file parameters. I used Concept and I loved the design, stock Google design and I loved it. I've used SliMM for ages. Whenever I tried a new ROM I just had to revert back to SliMM. Because it has the best battery life for me with the best performance. I'm using ExistenZ ROM now, hadn't have any issues but to be honest, battery life is worse than SliMM also the performance too (even though a little bit). I'm using ExistenZ right now because it has many customizations in itself which means lack of many xposed modules, which means (somewhat) better stability. I'm thinking of reverting back to SliMM though, FYI. I tried the EXPERIENCE ROM too. And it was a total disaster for me. Because I didn't like the modifications that Marilia has made into the ROM and I simply couldn't live with it, the phone felt a bit too childish. All in all, the best was always SliMM for me. If you have any question, shoot it mate! (I haven't tried the MX ROM)
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What do you mean on childish?
Thank you for explained answer!!
2muchpain said:
What do you mean on childish?
Thank you for explained answer!!
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He meant too childish like it had a childish theme to it.
I am using Experience and i like it. Even adoptable storage shows free space right. Battery is good, about 2 days with 5 hours screen on time. Supersu update from playstore works fine. Very good and stable rom. I have tested AOXP and MX rom. Both works but Experience was easy to make look like stock with 16 GB adoptable storage.
2muchpain said:
I only consider stock based ROMs. Now I choose between SLIMM, EXPERIENCE, MX ROM and EXISTENZ. I want to know the main differences and which ROM is better.
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The only proper answer for this question is and will ever be: Try them and find it out for your own.
You are already know the four candidates and now its up to you... All four are working. None of them is a failure!
As you see from the given answers everyone has other preferences and whishes.
There is no better or not here...
But if you want to:
Try all four ROMs, use each for one week and make a Rundup of them. Sure - this will reflect only your optinion in particualr but may help other to decide. As faar as I know such an comparrision is not existing up to now.
Actually this is want you are askiung for...
lucky-2 said:
I am using Experience and i like it. Even adoptable storage shows free space right. Battery is good, about 2 days with 5 hours screen on time. Supersu update from playstore works fine. Very good and stable rom. I have tested AOXP and MX rom. Both works but Experience was easy to make look like stock with 16 GB adoptable storage.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. It was really useful.
fluffi444 said:
None of them is a failure!
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I'm glad that there is choice between good ROMs. Maybe I will make a comparison later when I recieve replacement parts for my Z3c (if I really won't know which ROM to install).
Does EliteKernel 3 have better performance then Stock or other?
2muchpain said:
I'm glad that there is choice between good ROMs. Maybe I will make a comparison later when I recieve replacement parts for my Z3c (if I really won't know which ROM to install).
Does EliteKernel 3 have better performance then Stock or other?
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Yes, EliteKernel v3 and after makes phone experience smoother and games r more fluid with some other options available too :highfive: