G870a downgrade possible? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

I own an att s5 active on 5.0. I don't have root. I read there is a way to downgrade but can't seem to find through searching. Does anyone know or can direct me? I'm oc4 btw

I'll just take a guess here the lack of response is meaning NO

Use a pc/laptop & download odin + necessary zips. NG3 is probably the one you're looking for. Should be 1.?? Gb. Kernals are alot smaller. It'll set your phone to 4.4.2 or 4.4.3(kinda forgot). From there, find towelroot, busybox, supersu, flashfire and/or safestrap & flash away.
Since it'll try to automatically download an update, keep going to settings/app manager/running & stop. Go under all apps (right next to "running") and clear cache there too. Keep an eye on your status bar to see if it autostarts again & repeat. Once you're rooted, you can use titanium backup to freeze it.
Up to you if you wanna download your rom 1st so its there already waiting for you.
Read up on Flashfire & Safestrap. NG3 flasher is an app that lets you "Odin" back to stock without having to hook up to laptop. That stuff is later, and I'm trying to keep this short & sweet.

.......... Once your on 5.0 you cannot go back, only time you can downgrade is if you updated to 5.0 Rooted and since its a brand new phone I'm sorry but your stuck "for now". Please do a SEARCH before trying anything or you might Brick the phone .........

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[How-To] Root G870AUCU1ANG3 (GS5 Active)

**Make certain that your reactivation lock in security settings is off before beginning this process**
1. Take the NG3 OTA update.
2. Download and install Towelroot-v3.apk(this version does not require internet access).
3. Place your phone into "Download Mode" (press and hold the Home, Volume Down, and Power keys until the phone powers on and displays warning screen, then press Volume Up key) and flash the G870A_NE4_Stock_Kernel using Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
4. Open the Towelroot app from your app drawer and press "Make it Rain" to root your device.
5. Power off then boot into "Download Mode" again and flash the G870A_NG3_Stock_Kernel also in Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
6. Download SuperSu to manage root access. Done!
Troubleshooting:
1. If the NG3 OTA update fails consider flashing the G870AUCU1ANE4_Full_Odin.tar to return to stock then take the NG3 OTA update, (or place the G870A_NE4toNG3_OTA.zip onto your ext-sdcard and sideload from stock recovery). Once updated to NG3 continue to Step 2 above.
2. The most common cause of an Odin flash failure is a bad usb port or cable. Please check before reporting a failure.
Notes:
1. After flashing the NE4 kernel your phone may run a little wonky and towelroot may not root on the first try. If that happens reboot and try towelroot once again. Once rooted and after flashing the NG3 kernel your phone will once again run like a champ!
2. The above process will not affect your User Data or Knox Warranty Flag.
Credits:
@lordmorphous - Tester
Gonna try this... Thanks! :beer:
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Yes this worked. Thank you very much.......
Are we going to trip Knox using the method above ???
Just wanna be sure about this. ...g
gregsarg said:
Are we going to trip Knox using the method above ???
Just wanna be sure about this. ...g
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Nope.
Does anyone have a list of the benefits of updating to NG3?
I just rooted my new phone on NE4 and I want to know whether it's worth taking the time.
Thanks for the How-to! Worked great for me!
Any benefits on ng3 over stock?
Root possible for 'straight out-of-the-box' G870AUCU1ANG3???
I've looked and looked around the forums here and have come to the conclusion that the AT&T S 5 I recently picked up is, sadly, unable to be rooted. Does anyone here know if this is true? As the title suggests, my phone seems to have come loaded with G870AUCU1ANG3. Is it possible that it came with the previous iteration (NE4, I think??) and I didn't avoid an update, thus meaning I can flash the earlier version? Can I even tell whether it's possible to 'revert' to NE4 (or whatever it would be)? Is any of this even possible without having been previously rooted, or am I wasting my time searching this out? Naive but earnest questions... sorry if I'm in the wrong place here. I promise, I poked around the site for a few days in search of clarity before posting.
papayajelly said:
I've looked and looked around the forums here and have come to the conclusion that the AT&T S 5 I recently picked up is, sadly, unable to be rooted. Does anyone here know if this is true? As the title suggests, my phone seems to have come loaded with G870AUCU1ANG3. Is it possible that it came with the previous iteration (NE4, I think??) and I didn't avoid an update, thus meaning I can flash the earlier version? Can I even tell whether it's possible to 'revert' to NE4 (or whatever it would be)? Is any of this even possible without having been previously rooted, or am I wasting my time searching this out? Naive but earnest questions... sorry if I'm in the wrong place here. I promise, I poked around the site for a few days in search of clarity before posting.
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There shouldn't be any reason why you can't follow the instructions in the 1st post of this thread starting with step 2.

			
				
I've been searching for a while and can't find anything about using this root method and then being able to install safestrap. Has anyone been successful in doing this? Do I need to downgrade before and does anybody have the downgrade file? FYI Just bought my phone last night and was successful in rooting.
rescuedad said:
I've been searching for a while and can't find anything about using this root method and then being able to install safestrap. Has anyone been successful in doing this? Do I need to downgrade before and does anybody have the downgrade file? FYI Just bought my phone last night and was successful in rooting.
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Never mind, I figured it out. If you have the active you need to downgrade the kernel to NE4 like you do if you need root. Then you install Safestrap 3.75. I'm doing a Nandroid backup as I type. I'm going to re-flash the NG3 stock kernel when I'm done and hopefully that will be fine.
If it bricks, I can always take it back since I blocked the knox counter... BTW I'm on At&T
I downgraded to the NE4 to root. Along with others here I have to ask, what are, if any, benefits to upgrading the kernel?
panthersdzynes said:
I downgraded to the NE4 to root. Along with others here I have to ask, what are, if any, benefits to upgrading the kernel?
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Not sure I understand the question but I will take a shot......typically the kernel, modules, and non-hlos.bin have to match or else you may experience issues such as no wifi, lag, etc. The NE4 and NG3 kernel and modules may be similar enough that you will not experience issues immediately but they may develop later unless you reflash the NG3 kernel to match your modules and non-hlos.
muniz_ri said:
Not sure I understand the question but I will take a shot......typically the kernel, modules, and non-hlos.bin have to match or else you may experience issues such as no wifi, lag, etc. The NE4 and NG3 kernel and modules may be similar enough that you will not experience issues immediately but they may develop later unless you reflash the NG3 kernel to match your modules and non-hlos.
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I see. Thank you, that answers my question.
THanks XDA
Been away along time. Had iphones for the last 6 years. Use to go here all the time in the Kaiser days (Att Tilt) if any of you remember. I see XDA has still been kicking ass while I've been gone! Glad to be back and Thank You everyone especially first poster for the guide to root my Att GS5 Active.
THANK YOU
Working perfectly. ..thank you. ..g
There was a small update released today. Can someone that is rooted grab it from their fota/cache folder and send to me so that I can update this guide? Thanks.
WORKED! AWESOME!
Now... I have installed SuperSU. Was that left out of the first post?
Also, if I do not flash the NG3 Stock Kernel back afterwards, will I experience funkiness?
Thanks again!

[How-To] Update to I537_OC7 - 5.0.1 and KeepRoot

**You can begin the following process from 4.4.x Build/ROM or higher but you must already have Root Access**
**Required** FlashFire - Play BETA - PREVIEW
**Caution!** The following process is only for the I537 AT&T S4 "Active" variant. Use on any other device may result in a hardbrick!
Download:
- I537_OC7_Stock_Rooted_ROM
- I537_OC7_Stock_Rooted_Deodexed_ROM
Pevious Builds:
- I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_ROM
- I537_OC6_Stock_DeOdexed_ROM
Set your screen timeout setting to 10 mins before beginning!
1. Place the ROM onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
2. Open the FlashFire app and "Agree" to the Terms and Conditions.
3. Press "(+)" twice to bring up the "Actions" menu.
4. Select "Flash Zip or OTA" and locate and select the ROM. Leave "Auto-mount" unchecked under the "Options" menu and press the checkmark to continue.
5. From the main menu Uncheck all options under "EverRoot" and set "Reboot" setting to "Download."
6. Press the lightning bolt then "Ok" to begin the flash.
7. Once the flash is complete and the device reboots into "Download" mode, flash the I537_OC7_Bootloader using Odin's PDA/AP slot.
The screen will turn black then display the contents of your system before beginning the flash. FlashFire will pause for about 1 minute while flashing the "system" partition. Once complete your device will reboot and pause on the AT&T splash screen for 1 - 2 minutes (15 - 20mins for DeOdexed version) before completely rebooting. Done!
Tip: for blazing fast speed turn off animations from Developer Options and reboot!
Known Issues:
- None!
Optional - Enable Native Tethering:
- I537_OC7_TetherAddOn
- I537_OC6_TetherAddOn (Flash using FF's "Flash zip or ota" option.
Notes:
1. The above process will not affect your Knox Warranty Flag.
2. The process will update your Modem, Non-hlos, System, Kernel, and Stock Recovery.
3. No need to wipe prior to flashing! The ROM will automatically perform a factory data reset.
4. To learn more about FlashFire's capabilities on locked bootloader devices see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60070810&postcount=2
Credits:
@thisisapoorusernamechoice - for capturing the ota update and for his system dump.
@Chainfire
muniz_ri said:
**You can begin the following process from any Build/ROM but you must already have Root Access**
**Attention** The following process is only for the I537 AT&T S4 "Active" variant. Use on any other device may result in a hardbrick!
Instructions:
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First of all, thank you thank you thank you so much for this. Yeah I grabbed you the OTA's but thanks to you (and of course Chainfire & his FlashFire) we can go from KK to LP with root. And on day one of the OTA. Awesome. :good: So down to business, and I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself or barking up the wrong tree, but hear me out on this one. @Joe-Tech was generous enough to port his regular S4 Google Play Edition (Pure Nexus) 4.4.4 Rom over to our phone. Could we repeat that for this OC6 build, using say, this rom as a base (or another if that turns out to be incompatible for whatever reason)? I doubt I have the expertise to pull that off but if it would help I'd get to work on another masterpatch and speaker phone fix
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
First of all, thank you thank you thank you so much for this. Yeah I grabbed you the OTA's but thanks to you (and of course Chainfire & his FlashFire) we can go from KK to LP with root. And on day one of the OTA. Awesome. :good: So down to business, and I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself or barking up the wrong tree, but hear me out on this one. @Joe-Tech was generous enough to port his regular S4 Google Play Edition (Pure Nexus) 4.4.4 Rom over to our phone. Could we repeat that for this OC6 build, using say, this rom as a base (or another if that turns out to be incompatible for whatever reason)? I doubt I have the expertise to pull that off but if it would help I'd get to work on another masterpatch and speaker phone fix
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I have an LP 5.0.1 base, ported using that ROM that you mentioned, but we all know safestrap is not compatible yet with 5.x and FlashFire can only flash TW base rom from my experience, and it still on beta phase, so let just cross fingers, i know something coming soon
Joe-Tech said:
I have an LP 5.0.1 base, ported using that ROM that you mentioned, but we all know safestrap is not compatible yet with 5.x and FlashFire can only flash TW base rom from my experience, and it still on beta phase, so let just cross fingers, i know something coming soon
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You're the man. Thanks for this info. I'm going to make a masterpatch, hopefully it'll be needed soon. Obviously I'll be happy to test anything if and whenever something like this does happen. If I can do anything at all to help that along just let me know. I was not aware FF could only flash TW base roms, shoot
Still loving your 4.4.4, I'm torn on taking the update if it means going back to touchwiz with no current AOSP option
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You're the man. Thanks for this info. I'm going to make a masterpatch, hopefully it'll be needed soon. Obviously I'll be happy to test anything if and whenever something like this does happen. If I can do anything at all to help that along just let me know. I was not aware FF could only flash TW base roms, shoot
Still loving your 4.4.4, I'm torn on taking the update if it means going back to touchwiz with no current AOSP option
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Only way im thinking to boot the new LP ROM, is to use @muniz_ri method so we can upgrade and keep root. So now we going to be on the OC6 kernel and baseband, since the gpe can boot without flashing the kernel. Then we can flash the GPE 5.x ROM, either with safestrap or FlashFire, and we can also use Odin to flash the stock kernel/partitions. But too bad none of them worked for me after the upgrade, FF will sit there for ever try to get root permission.
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But too bad none of them worked for me after the upgrade, FF will sit there for ever try to get root permission.
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Were other rooted apps able to get root permission?
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Were other rooted apps able to get root permission?
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Nope I even tried root checker, the su app is there on the app drawer, i was able to updated from the play store, but still wasn't working though.
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Joe-Tech said:
Nope I even tried root checker, the su app is there on the app drawer, i was able to updated from the play store, but still wasn't working though.
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Just had a thought, probably nothing. When doing the kitkat to lollipop update to keep root with flashfire, would it help anything to convert flashfire to a system app before doing the update? Sorry if this is a stupid question
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Just had a thought, probably nothing. When doing the kitkat to lollipop update to keep root with flashfire, would it help anything to convert flashfire to a system app before doing the update? Sorry if this is a stupid question
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I don't think it will make any difference.
@muniz_ri: This is great, thanks for all your work on this. As I understand it, this method will update you to OC6 with root if the original firmware was already rooted. So my question is then, if a user has already taken the OC6 update and would like to root afterwards is it currently impossible? Is the only way to root OC6 to downgrade back to NE3, root, and then follow your instructions to update to OC6 with root?
I'm guessing a root vulnerability hasn't been found for the Samsung 5.0 firmware yet, but I just wanted to check.
Also, I posted this in the other thread, but has anybody actually downgraded from OC6 to NE3 successfully? I don't want to give people wrong information.
Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
mikelets456 said:
Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
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Extract the tar from the rar. Leave the zip as is. Copy the tar and the zip to your phone's internal memory or external SD card, somewhere it'll be easy for you to find
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@muniz_ri: This is great, thanks for all your work on this. As I understand it, this method will update you to OC6 with root if the original firmware was already rooted. So my question is then, if a user has already taken the OC6 update and would like to root afterwards is it currently impossible? Is the only way to root OC6 to downgrade back to NE3, root, and then follow your instructions to update to OC6 with root?
I'm guessing a root vulnerability hasn't been found for the Samsung 5.0 firmware yet, but I just wanted to check.
Also, I posted this in the other thread, but has anybody actually downgraded from OC6 to NE3 successfully? I don't want to give people wrong information.
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Correct, you will need to go back to NE3 then use towelroot before starting this process. And yes, the aboot qfuse counter determines whether or not you can downgrade. I checked it and it does allow for downgrading.
mikelets456 said:
Okay, I need some help here. I'm not quite understanding this:
1. Extract the I537_OC6_Stock_Rooted_Firmware.tar from the .rar and place it and the I537_OC6_Stock_Partitions.zip onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).
Place what where? I used WinRAR to extract the file? What is the OC6 stock partition?
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If all of the above is beyond your level of understanding I strongly suggest you reconsider attempting to modify your phone.
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Correct, you will need to go back to NE3 then use towelroot before starting this process. And yes, the aboot qfuse counter determines whether or not you can downgrade. I checked it and it does allow for downgrading.
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Great thanks, one more question: Would it be possible to use something similar to W0lfdroids method of rooting? So on stock OC6, flash the NE3 kernel (since downgrading is possible), root with Towelroot, the flash back to the OC6 kernel. Just thinking about it I'm guessing it wouldn't work because you wouldn't be able to boot 5.0 with a 4.4.2 kernel, but I figured I'd ask.
Devo7v said:
Great thanks, one more question: Would it be possible to use something similar to W0lfdroids method of rooting? So on stock OC6, flash the NE3 kernel (since downgrading is possible), root with Towelroot, the flash back to the OC6 kernel. Just thinking about it I'm guessing it wouldn't work because you wouldn't be able to boot 5.0 with a 4.4.2 kernel, but I figured I'd ask.
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Did not bother to try since it has not worked on any 5.0 release so far.
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Did not bother to try since it has not worked on any 5.0 release so far.
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Any chance I can implore you to try it since there will inevitably be a bunch of people already on the OC6 firmware asking how to root it and will get pissed when they find they have to wipe their phone? Or maybe you could just provide the stock OC6 kernel and I can convince @thisisapoorusernamechoice to give it a shot?
For what it's worth, just went through the process in post 1. Everything went fine, but after the Galaxy S4 boot screen, it goes black and stays. I can boot to download mode and stock recovery, so it's not a major issue, and likely something I did. I'll mess with it a bit more then Odin back to stock and start over.
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For what it's worth, just went through the process in post 1. Everything went fine, but after the Galaxy S4 boot screen, it goes black and stays. I can boot to download mode and stock recovery, so it's not a major issue, and likely something I did. I'll mess with it a bit more then Odin back to stock and start over.
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A couple questions:
What firmware were you coming from?
How long did you wait?
Did you have Xposed enabled?

[Q] First Time Rooter, Gs6 SM-G920T, need help intresting problem cant find fix.

#1-"com.tmobile.pr.adapt (10001) has been granted superuser permissions for an interactive shell" pops up on my screen every 30 seconds on the bottom of my screen in a grey box.
#2- i also noticed that i can accept and recieve calls but i can not hear, nor can the other person hear me. if i use hangouts video call, skype, etc it works fine.
#3-i also tried to get rom manager to make a recovery and it says it needs to get CWD recovery to install a new software, the first thing we need to do is install a up to date version, we will begin that process now... etc.. then it says to get started you must first sset up a custom recovery, it gives two options a samsung galaxy s3 on metro pcs or a samsung previal 2 on boost mobile, or device not listed, when i click that it says "SM-G920T does not have an officially supported CWDR yet. Have you installed a CWD based recovery manually?" so im not sure what to do from there, or if i even need that. i have been a iphone user since day one went to android after reading up a lot on it, although rooting is quite different than jailbreaking it seems, i am incredibly excited to get started if i can get past these little problems and get started and figure everything out. ANY advice, or anwsers to these problems would be Greatly appreciated! thanks!
Also i went to dev options in settings and noticed the "OEM unlocking- allow the bootloader to be unlocker" was turned off, i dont know if this is necessary to root if i did something wrong by not turning it on or what, or if it may fix any problems above if i turn it on now. thanks!
I have a samsung Galaxy S6 (SM_G920T) . i Rooted and did not trip Knox, Although i did just remember that my fingerprint sensor is not working either.
Thank you guys so much this si a incredible forum i have spent hours and hours reading and researching before making this post i appreciate it so much!
#1 Freeze that ****. Use some root tool to freeze that T-mobile apk, seems u gave it root permissions at some point. I believe there are a lot of apps that you will want to do the same.
#2 ? No idea. Stock rom/kernel?
#3 What is this I don't even. Don't do that. Go to TWRP's official web, get your zeroflte (SM-GT920T) twrp and flash it via ODIN, or else get the recovery.img and use flashify. All that assuming you want a custom recovery.
You will need to unlock the bootloader if you are on 5.1.1. I believe locked will prevent changes or wiping anything on the OS partitions, even recovery (can someone confirm?)
I believe jailbraking and rooting should be pretty much similar, if not the same, as both target to grant the user root access to do whatever he pleases on the OS.
Welcome to android btw.
How did you root? Sounds like you used the modified sboot which causes no sounds in calls and nonfunctional fingerprint scanner. If so, flash back to stock and use a different rooting method. The rest, pretty much what the above poster stated
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I rooted using the version that I found the only one that works it seemed like, went to Odin put my phone In download mode and then put the boot loader download in BL and the. Put a something unikernel.sbin I believe, whatever the guide said also then it was done. I thought you couldn't use the twrp or custom recovery etc on tmobile one yet but I just read a thing about xtrestolite odex pure v2 which says it's for 5.1.1 and my model of phone but in the guide it says to root using CF auto root and a link there to it but the link doesn't have my phone on the list that the guide that clearly is my phone says to use I don't know if I'm missing something but I want to use it I understand most of it but I don't know if I need to unropt first and re root then use Odin and flash twrp that's supported on my phone then use that to recover the rom. Etc. The kernel that says is used in the guide is the same one I downloaded so do I need to remove it all then let it do that or?
Sorry if this didn't make sense I'm halfway there between confused and understood I have spent the last 10 hours reading and trying to figure this out though lol. Thanks guys!
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Sorry for adding more but also how do I flash back to stock? Search for the download to the stock image of my phone? Also I could only find one way of rooting everything else said it wasn't working yet or am I missing a big portion of something here?
Just flash the 5.1.1 firmware to return to stock. To root, flash unikernel with Odin. The other method you used was to not trip knox, but as you experienced has side effects. I had to Odin back to 5.1.1 myself. Can't have those issues
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so how do i flash back to 5.1.1? find the ling to completely stock 5.1.1 and flash through odin in the same spot and same way i flashed the kernel to root? also.. i rooted with " s6_UniKernel_v2-0003-ODIN.tar" is that not the one you were talking about?
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so how do i flash back to 5.1.1? find the ling to completely stock 5.1.1 and flash through odin in the same spot and same way i flashed the kernel to root? also.. i rooted with " s6_UniKernel_v2-0003-ODIN.tar" is that not the one you were talking about?
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Yes, flashing to 5.1.1 works exactly like that. You need to get the version for your model (very important on this one) and then simply place that file in the AP field of ODIN while the device is in recovery mode. It is normal for ODIN to freeze for 2 minutes while verifying. Make sure to use a MD5 checker tool on the firmware before flashing.
Rooting has historically required more technical savvy and balls than jailbreaking, but PingPong made rooting the S6 brain-dead simple. CF-Auto root is still pretty painless, but you must make sure you have the right zip for your device.
Anyhoo, the quickest & easiest way to restore phone calls & fingerprint scan is to use Odin to get back to bone stock.
Next, use PingPong to root. After rooting, "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" will ask for root access. That is T-Mobile's "phone home" app and sends info about your device (probably including root status). Deny it root access and make sure you check "Remember my choice", and it won't bother you again. You will not lose any functionality by denying it root, so terminate that crap.
Don't bother with rom manager. CWM is archaic. If you want a custom recovery, use TWRP. You can install TWRP either using Odin or TWRP Manager app (it's free).
Good luck and have fun with your S6
CjetOKC said:
Sorry for adding more but also how do I flash back to stock? Search for the download to the stock image of my phone? Also I could only find one way of rooting everything else said it wasn't working yet or am I missing a big portion of something here?
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Are you still rooted? If so, and if you are experiencing the call audio issue, go flash AOU's kernel. He has made a kernel for the tmo s6. that should eliminate your call audio issue. The finger print scanner is the only issue with flashing his kernel. Also, I rooted with the modded sboot, his TWRP and kernel, and I didn't trip knox
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...recovery-twrp2-8-6-0-g925t-5-1-1-of6-t3143002

[Q] Careless mistake made, want to make sure plan of action is correct

My device and detailed list of what happened: I started with i537 4.4.2 ne3 rooted with towelroot. i proceeded to follow the thread about upgrading to 5.0.1 lp oc6 and keep root. Followed everything precisely, sucessfully upgraded, but when i proceeded to restore from Titanium, I didnt realize until it was too late that i backed up user AND system apps and data. after that i got neverending "process.gapps..." has stopped working and so on. I realize now i should have only restored my user apps and data. Anyways, i managed to freeze play services so that i can flashfire LP again, btw i used the deodexed version. As i was doing that and clicked flash, i had forgotten to set the screen timeout to 10 min. or more. Now, all that happens is the samsung custom screen with padlock boots up, but just goes black from there and nothing else. I can boot into download mode. Unfortunately I dont have a laptop with me at the moment, i am using ps4 to post, but i wanted to make sure what my next plan of action should be. From what i have gathered im assuming i need to recover via odin. Do I need to recover back to ne3, towelroot, and then start the process again, or can i just recover to oc6 ? Am I forgetting something crucial? with my lack of attention, probably. Thank you in advance and if I have offended anyone with my stupidity compelling someone to respond with a condescending and negative remarks, i am sorry.
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My device and detailed list of what happened: I started with i537 4.4.2 ne3 rooted with towelroot. i proceeded to follow the thread about upgrading to 5.0.1 lp oc6 and keep root. Followed everything precisely, sucessfully upgraded, but when i proceeded to restore from Titanium, I didnt realize until it was too late that i backed up user AND system apps and data. after that i got neverending "process.gapps..." has stopped working and so on. I realize now i should have only restored my user apps and data. Anyways, i managed to freeze play services so that i can flashfire LP again, btw i used the deodexed version. As i was doing that and clicked flash, i had forgotten to set the screen timeout to 10 min. or more. Now, all that happens is the samsung custom screen with padlock boots up, but just goes black from there and nothing else. I can boot into download mode. Unfortunately I dont have a laptop with me at the moment, i am using ps4 to post, but i wanted to make sure what my next plan of action should be. From what i have gathered im assuming i need to recover via odin. Do I need to recover back to ne3, towelroot, and then start the process again, or can i just recover to oc6 ? Am I forgetting something crucial? with my lack of attention, probably. Thank you in advance and if I have offended anyone with my stupidity compelling someone to respond with a condescending and negative remarks, i am sorry.
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You're good. Once you flash back to NE3 with Odin it'll be like you're starting from scratch. So just make sure you follow the directions and definitely don't restore system apps. Typically when I'm updating between different versions of Android I'll let my apps install from the Play Store and then restore any missing data from TiBu, this way I can ensure I'm starting fresh.
Good luck.
Devo7v said:
You're good. Once you flash back to NE3 with Odin it'll be like you're starting from scratch. So just make sure you follow the directions and definitely don't restore system apps. Typically when I'm updating between different versions of Android I'll let my apps install from the Play Store and then restore any missing data from TiBu, this way I can ensure I'm starting fresh.
Good luck.
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I figured that was my mistake when i kept getting notifications non-stop. Ive messed around with root since the epic 4g, but this was actually my first time backing up. All other times I preferred starting fresh and having everything wiped. I dont really know why i decided to change that this time, but i did and without really thinking about it i backed up both user and system.
I just got my laptop with me now and ive downloaded odin 3.07, and full package or something 4.4.2 ne3. now I am searching topics to find a guide. its been years since i used odin and I need to make sure im doing this right.
Thanks
This is just great. I was using odin to restore to ne3 and right after it finished the download mode and started to reboot my computer crashes. now I cant do anything. It wont boot into download mode or recovery mode. The only sign of life is if i plug into my laptop it shows the battery icon with a pinwheel that isnt moving. I cant believe this just happened.
*edit* i just left it alone for a few minutes and tried to boot into download mode which was successful.

Root 5.1.1 or 6.0.1?

I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
ota then root
I OTA'ed, now the phone randomly reboots several times a day, and some apps don't work correctly. Great.
factory reset.
*sigh* I was afraid you were going to say that. Now the problem is backing it up. I have a Titanium Backup Pro license, but I only use it on my old rooted GS2. The Note 4 is not rooted so TB won't run on it. All the rooting tutorials say "back up your phone before you root" but you need root to run TB. Chicken or egg? I guess I could try Samsung Kies, don't know if it will back up everything. My photos are backed up to Google Photos, I guess everything else is replaceable, but I would really rather not have to reinstall all my apps one by one after a factory reset.
That brings up another question: when you to go Settings/Backup and Reset, I have "Backup my data" set to On and linked to my Google account, but nowhere can I find documentation of exactly WHAT gets backed up or to WHERE (it says to "Google servers" but what the heck does that mean? I can't find it on my Google Drive or anywhere else on my Google account dashboard.)
I do greatly appreciate your help, by the way.
You could try reinstalling through kies or smart switch. Make sure to clear caches before and after. And see if that works. If it doesnt help, you could flash recovery, root, try to backup as much as you can between reboots and then factory reset. Your apps should automatically download from play store. But without the titbackup files you'll lose settings and data in a lot of apps that Google doesn't backup.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
kydar said:
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
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Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
Shad0wsabr3 said:
Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
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There aren't that many problems with MM. Just superficial stuff like not having mobile data toggle. The problems you are hearing about a factory reset will fix. Like lag, jankyness, apps loading, phone freezing temporarily. You won't be able to do OTA. It will fail because of root. You need to titanium backup or whatever method you prefer of backing up data and flash through kies, odin or smart switch. Probably easier to go that route unless you only did minor things with root like just block ads, then you can probably get away with flashing stock recovery and then OTA. You still might have to factory reset like I had to even though I flashed whole rom through smart switch. If you have xposed or modified something like swapping recent apps and back key like me, then you'll need to flash marshmallow whole and start over after backing up.
Afaik, you can't downgrade to 5.1.1 unless somebody figured out a workaround or you only flashed everything except bootloader.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
kydar said:
@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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Iv never backed up an unrooted device so I wouldn't know. Glad you nrought that up as Iv been meaning to look into that.
Would you happen to know where the downloaded ota file location is? My phone downloaded it and I keep postponing it.
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
vernj123 said:
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...overy-n910t-t3-marshmallow-pe3-guide-t3406870
kydar said:
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
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I'm still researching what your dealing with. As for me I found the ota file. For those looking for it this is how and where I found it....
With RomToolbox I went to root browser. Then to data folder and a folder named fota. Within the fota folder is the ota update named update.zip. I erased that and then went into Titanium Backup and chose to freeze both software update files. So far no constant reminders that I have an update ready to be installed.
Hope this may help.

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