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I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well
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sheloga is correct. You'd have to revert back to full stock or wait for someone to make a flashable zip.
Can't you just flash the stock recovery and take the OTA? Or do you have to fully unroot and reflash the factory image?
I would like to pay close attention time to this thread because that is one is the main questions that I have. I hear so many different solutions towards this. I usually wait for a flashable zip but I would want to see someone either wrote a write up or make a video. Subscribed.
My understanding (from looking at the lollipop OTA updater-script) is it checks EVERY file for changes, including other partitions. You must be 100% stock with nothing extra in system (SuperSU apk or busybox etc).
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.
BLUF: wait until OTA is made available in a recovery flash method. 90% of the time the OTA updates are patching security holes and other less important features.
Having been with a handful of different android devices in the past several years, I've always gone the route of flashing from recovery vs. OTA.
The LG G3 for example had an OTA just recently that broke rooting. It was fixed by a Dev, but that's the only update found in OTA.
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Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
simms22 said:
get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.
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I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
wvcadle said:
I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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no thoughts.
i just flash aosp hours after it appears there. or just wait for @rascarlo to add it to his rom, then i flash
HyperM3 said:
Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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After Android 5.0, you can't sideload the OTA file if you have made any changes to the system partition. You need to be completely stock to take OTA. You can just download the new factory images and extract the various img files from it and just flash those manually in ADB, thereby overwriting your modified system partition with the new factory system image (you can skip overwriting the userdata if you want to preserve your data). No need to revert back to stock (old image) and then take OTA - unnecessary step.
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Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?
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I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?
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From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately
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How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately
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You need to install ADB and fastboot. After that, you can use the 'fastboot' command directly from Terminal. I've found that the easiest way to update Lollipop on my Nexus 6 is to:
Download image from Google
Decompress the archive, AND the second archive which was contained within the first one. Note: The recovery, boot, and system images are in the second archive.
Open Terminal, change directory to the extracted folder, and run these commands (they skip overwriting the userdata partition):
fastboot flash bootloader <bootloader file name here>.img
fastboot flash radio <radio file name here>.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader (VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THIS STEP)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot
You need to restore root at this point; you can use these instructions if you're unfamiliar with the procedure.
Hello everyone. My Nexus 6 has been running standard 5.0.1, which I rooted (using WugFresh's Nexus Root Toolkit - very useful software) . SuperSU has been installed, along with BusyBox, with TWRP as the custom recovery. My service is on T-Mobile, and just today my system update informed me that the 5.1 OTA update was ready to download and install. I allowed it the right to download and it claimed to be rebooting to install. Unfortunately, it rebooted into TWRP (I am guessing it expected the standard recovery)? I told TWRP it to simply reboot into the OS, and it appear the update has failed - nothing has changed. I'm still on 5.0.1 as shown in the settings etc.. Furthermore, attempting to check for System Updates again show no updates available; it seems it has "forgotten" that OTA 5.1 exists and/or assumes that it has already been pulled down properly? This is my first time updating a stock, yet rooted, ROM - I'm used to flashing or using another update system included in custom ROMs such as Cyanogen . I had hoped that since the OTA update was offered, it would have worked without the necessity to wipe my data as in a normal flash. I am guessing the error was in using the OTA update at all, or perhaps having TWRP installed? So I guess I am trying to figure out the best path forward from here.
I am to understand that the T-Mobile OTA 5.1 update activates a number of new features ,including VOLTE etc... so I want to be sure I get the correct ROM, as well as any baseband changes that may be necessary. I still have TWRP and the like, so I assume I could flash the update manually, if I was sure it was the right build and I got all the needed files. Now, I have to wonder, it appears that during the original OTA update, it did download the ROM somewhere. Perhaps I could find it on my device and select it in TWRP to update? Or would that not provide all the necessary files , overwrite something, or otherwise cause problems? Anyone point me in the correct direction perchance? Thanks.
Edit: I may have not been prompted for another OTA update because my battery was < 50%. Plugging it in and seeing if this changes anything. I read on Tmo's page that >50% battery is necessary to "qualify" for the update?
Also, according to https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-18109 - the Tmo 5.1 is "LMY47M". This build is not available yet at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images - only the "D" and "E" versions. Does this "M" version include VoLTE calling? I'm seeing discussion about these differing versions, yet very little solid information. I can't believe Google would split the ROM by carrier for a Nexus device! That's insane... having to look for all the custom ROMs that are built with the proper carrier specific build in mind!
a phone that is pure stock can take an ota. a phone that has any files changed, or not pure stock can not flash an ota, doesnt matter how many otas you try. you will have to flash the factory img.
So I should wait until 5.1 LMY47M is available and simply flash it via TWRP? Will I need to wipe anything at all when I flash it? Will I need to flash anything else, like Gapps? Rooting will need to be performed again? If I was running a custom ROM I'd know what to expect, but I'm a bit out of my element here.
RanceJustice said:
So I should wait until 5.1 LMY47M is available and simply flash it via TWRP? Will I need to wipe anything at all when I flash it? Will I need to flash anything else, like Gapps? Rooting will need to be performed again? If I was running a custom ROM I'd know what to expect, but I'm a bit out of my element here.
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you cant flash it in twrp. you can flash the factory img via fastboot while youre in the bootloader. or you can flash a 5.1 custom rom, that will be easier.
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So I should wait until 5.1 LMY47M is available and simply flash it via TWRP? Will I need to wipe anything at all when I flash it? Will I need to flash anything else, like Gapps? Rooting will need to be performed again? If I was running a custom ROM I'd know what to expect, but I'm a bit out of my element here.
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If you want to take the OTA, do the following:
Download the 5.0.1 factory zip.
Extract all of the files.
To unroot, fastboot flash the system.img.
Fastboot flash the stock recovery.img.
If you are unencrypted, fastboot flash the stock boot.img.
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Hello everyone. My Nexus 6 has been running standard 5.0.1, which I rooted (using WugFresh's Nexus Root Toolkit - very useful software) . SuperSU has been installed, along with BusyBox, with TWRP as the custom recovery. My service is on T-Mobile, and just today my system update informed me that the 5.1 OTA update was ready to download and install. I allowed it the right to download and it claimed to be rebooting to install. Unfortunately, it rebooted into TWRP (I am guessing it expected the standard recovery)? I told TWRP it to simply reboot into the OS, and it appear the update has failed - nothing has changed. I'm still on 5.0.1 as shown in the settings etc.. Furthermore, attempting to check for System Updates again show no updates available; it seems it has "forgotten" that OTA 5.1 exists and/or assumes that it has already been pulled down properly? This is my first time updating a stock, yet rooted, ROM - I'm used to flashing or using another update system included in custom ROMs such as Cyanogen . I had hoped that since the OTA update was offered, it would have worked without the necessity to wipe my data as in a normal flash. I am guessing the error was in using the OTA update at all, or perhaps having TWRP installed? So I guess I am trying to figure out the best path forward from here.
I am to understand that the T-Mobile OTA 5.1 update activates a number of new features ,including VOLTE etc... so I want to be sure I get the correct ROM, as well as any baseband changes that may be necessary. I still have TWRP and the like, so I assume I could flash the update manually, if I was sure it was the right build and I got all the needed files. Now, I have to wonder, it appears that during the original OTA update, it did download the ROM somewhere. Perhaps I could find it on my device and select it in TWRP to update? Or would that not provide all the necessary files , overwrite something, or otherwise cause problems? Anyone point me in the correct direction perchance? Thanks.
Edit: I may have not been prompted for another OTA update because my battery was < 50%. Plugging it in and seeing if this changes anything. I read on Tmo's page that >50% battery is necessary to "qualify" for the update?
Also, according to https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-18109 - the Tmo 5.1 is "LMY47M". This build is not available yet at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images - only the "D" and "E" versions. Does this "M" version include VoLTE calling? I'm seeing discussion about these differing versions, yet very little solid information. I can't believe Google would split the ROM by carrier for a Nexus device! That's insane... having to look for all the custom ROMs that are built with the proper carrier specific build in mind!
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Please take a bug report and find the OTA link inside. Instructions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2zlqid/psa_if_you_receive_the_tmobile_51_ota_update/
I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
Quick answer: Isn't going to happen.
Reason: Lollipop wont install OTA if you modify /system, because it is now written as a block, unlike previous versions of android.
IF you root, you have modified /system.
Consequence: you will not update by OTA while rooted. It will fail.
Possible workaround: You can however AFAIK, unroot and then take an OTA, but I'll let others confirm this, please don't take me saying it as factual.
Factory image flash: always works, but you have to await the release after the updates.
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I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
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FWIW: I would recommend that you:
1) Unlock bootloader
2) Decide if you want uncrypted kernel, or not (since it wipes data, just like unlocking bootloader).
3) Fastboot flash TWRP recovery.
4) Download SuperSU .zip and flash it in recovery.
5) Now, when a new OTA comes out, they usually show up here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493
6) You can download your current factory image here > https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
7) Unzip your current factory image. Fastboot flash the system.img and that will unroot and restore the stock recovery.
8) Fastboot flash the stock boot.img if you have a custom kernel (or an unencrypted stock kernel).
9) Relax and wait for the OTA.
RW-1 said:
Quick answer: Isn't going to happen.
Reason: Lollipop wont install OTA if you modify /system, because it is now written as a block, unlike previous versions of android.
IF you root, you have modified /system.
Consequence: you will not update by OTA while rooted. It will fail.
Possible workaround: You can however AFAIK, unroot and then take an OTA, but I'll let others confirm this, please don't take me saying it as factual.
Factory image flash: always works, but you have to await the release after the updates.
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I knew about the OTA failing due to the system partition getting changed while rooting. I think what I was looking for what cam30era just explained!!!
mad_rulzzz said:
I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
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You can just update in fastboot without an OTA. Just flash the new bootloader, system and possibly the new boot.img in fastboot and reroot. Erase and flash cache.img afterwards. Thats how i do it at least.
mad_rulzzz said:
I knew about the OTA failing due to the system partition getting changed while rooting. I think what I was looking for what cam30era just explained!!!
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What he just explained is what I said, unroot and take the OTA.... He listed how as well.
RW-1 said:
What he just explained is what I said, unroot and take the OTA.... He listed how as well.
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Yup.
@rw_1 @cam30era thanks guys
I would do what gee2012 said.
From what I have seen the OTA and the images are released pretty close together.
Instead of flashing images to get back to stock and waiting for the OTA. and then re-rooting
Just download the image files from Google. Manually flash all the files EXCEPT user data if you want to keep your data.
Re-root.
You are now updated and don't have to wait for OTA.
Either way works so it depends on which you are happier with.
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@rw_1 @cam30era thanks guys
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Welcome. And BTW: there's a button for that.
gee2012 said:
You can just update in fastboot without an OTA. Just flash the new bootloader, system and possibly the new boot.img in fastboot and reroot. Erase and flash cache.img afterwards. Thats how i do it at least.
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Just to be sure I understood right:
If I don't care about app data or settings ( I have titanium backup),
1)I can just unlock the boot loader
2)Flash the latest factory image from [developers.google.com/android/nexus/images]
3)Root using chain fire's tool
And repeat the process when the factory image of the next version is uploaded by google.
one last thing... Does Google upload factory images after each OTA happens?
cam30era said:
Welcome. And BTW: there's a button for that.
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My BAd!!
mad_rulzzz said:
If I don't care about app data or settings ( I have titanium backup),
1)Can I just unlock the boot loader
2)Flash the latest factory image from [developers.google.com/android/nexus/images]
3)Root using chain fire's tool
And repeat the process when the factory image of the next version is uploaded by google.
Does Google upload factory images after each OTA happens? i.e; If Nexus 6 receives an OTA to 5.2, will they upload the 5.2 factory image soon?
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When you unlock the bootloader it will wipe the contents of your SD card. Make sure it is backed up on your PC.
Unfortunately, not every OTA gets published as a factory image. Most, but not all. Case in point: LMY47M.
cam30era said:
Unfortunately, not every OTA gets published as a factory image. Most, but not all. Case in point: LMY47M.
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I noticed that.... But that build is only for T-Mobile users, I guess...
Minor Differences, for example; If you take the android builds for Indian phones they are required by law to display the SAR rating. So I wouldn't worry about LMY47M, unless they have changed something to fix the memory leaks.
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I noticed that.... But that build is only for T-Mobile users, I guess...
Minor Differences, for example; If you take the android builds for Indian phones they are required by law to display the SAR rating. So I wouldn't worry about LMY47M, unless they have changed something to fix the memory leaks.
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Correct. M is intended for T-Mobile. My point, though, is that Google doesn't always, 100% of the time publish a factory image for every OTA.
Here you can download OTA, fresh firmware or system image to update your device.
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
firmware.zip only [19.6 MB]
2.19.401.2_boot_system_2015-09-21--20-48-04_KOT49H.zip [TWRP] [1.15 GB]
Downloads: mega
Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer. Don't know, what's that. Looks like a hash or a signature.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed). If you want just firmware, take it. Should be fastboot flashable.
*Additional notes*
Next lines describe my experience before I returned the device state to nearly stock.
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.
city2026 said:
OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.19.401.2-2.18.401.3_release_448048.zip [41.2 MB]
Download: mega
Let's see what's underneath
Main difference, I believe, is a security fix (libStageFright). I assume, that's it:
/system/framework/android.policy.jar
/system/framework/conscrypt.jar
/system/framework/framework3.jar
/system/lib/modules/moc_crypto.ko.sig.3.4.10
Zip also contains lots of *.p files (odexes, apk, jars mainly). Viewable through windows explorer.
OTA includes firmware.zip containing {boot, hboot, recovery}, which can be opened through WinRAR (7Zip 15β failed).
*Additional notes*
Hello there. )
Want to share my experience. I have 2.18.401.3 and got promt to upgrade to 2.19.401.2.
Basically, as I get it, you need original recovery and that's it. (Pushed original kernel just in case. Also device is unlocked (tampered))
But under updating process the script mechanism checks some files to be original. Many system odexes, framework stuff and some libs.
My update failed on checking Books.odex (meanwhile, this app was deleted and redownloaded as user-app)
So, I might try to edit updater-script later or just copy files from update to folders they belong. The ota got a simple and obvious updater script for people who used to deal with them before. I'm considering delete parsing part or just push on screen what gives fail, but let updating happen. Need to be tested with system backup.
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My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know
TWRP system backup added
csoulr666 said:
My update stopped for "basicdreams.odex". If you are able to get the update flashed do let the community know
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I tried to update from recent backup (the one before I changed kernel and deleted system apps), but facebook.odex didn't let me.
Finally, the very first backup did it. I took only system and boot, switched twrp recovery to htc, skipped all setup and installed OTA over fresh system.
Here you go. Now you have TWRP image of this update.
BTW, kernel version is different. CL build number is the same.
Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks
ash0r said:
Hi,
can't I just flash it somehow with TWRP?
The standard update way does not work for me, because of changed *.odex files.
Already tried to flash original recovery etc.
Thanks
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Unfortunately you cannot flash this with TWRP.
Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks
ash0r said:
Is there a possibility to install this update (or any OTA updates) without having a "not-touched" system?
I could of course flash the TWRP recovery (what I've already done - it worked) but in that case I lose all my modifications. Is it possible to restore the TWRP recovery from that post and afterwards restore my own recovery without overwriting the system files which are needed to be up to date?
Thanks
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You can try to restore the TWRP backup in the post. And yes, you will lose every mod since it is a backup of the stock, unrooted firmware.
The main problem of flashing the OTA zip would be that you will have to relock the bootloader before installing . So if you unlock it again, the internal storage will be wiped. The best way is to backup everything(Including the internal storage) and then proceed.
Actually, you can save your data while upgrading from non-worthy stock.
So, you may do this
Full backup, you never know what can go wrong.
Save or make a note of what you changed by yourself in system (from busybox to xposed & various modes.). You may use TB for sys-apps and simple file copying for modes. *
Restore updated system image from 1st post, so you have updated system.
See if it worked out and restore/reinstall your other system stuff.
* Remember, you still may access files of your twrp backup images through some archiver. Like I do using 7-Zip.
It's very important to save backup somewhere, cause it might be that my image can be not absolutely clean or can be not absolute right for your phone (like sell location difference). So it'll be easy to return back to working machine.
For this purposes I also setted up my TB for daily auto-backup of texts and settings and weekly backup of apps.
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Don't sure about relock for upgrading. It seems to be launching, but it needs pure system and original boot & recovery. Some fastboot-magic helps here. That's how I did it after restoring to the very first backup.
So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful
The Watergod said:
So I have build number 2.18.161.3 rooted software on Vodafone, and received an OTA update build number 2.18.161.5-2.18.161.3. Obviously when I come to update it it goes to my custom recovery and can't go any further.
A couple of queries though I wanted to delete all the bloatware from my stock rom, after rooting I found I needed to S-Off as the bloatware keeps coming back on reboot so here are my queries.
Can I delete the APK files from the new OTA update and will this remove them if I install the OTA as a zip through custom recovery. Or can I use this update to wipe the bloatware from it all advice would be helpful
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For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.
My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.
keninzeg said:
My htc one mini 2 is all stock. Software number is 1.16.61.2 and my fon cant to update software. Please help. Sory for my english.
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Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates
csoulr666 said:
Did you buy your phone from a carrier? Carrier phones get different software updates
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I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.
keninzeg said:
I bought it used, it has installed EE application from the UK. So is there a way to update. Thanks a lot...
I tried to install OTA_M8_MINI_UL_K44_SENSE60_HTC_Europe_2.16.401.1-1.16.401.2_release from stock recovery and failed.
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If it has EE applications then it is an EE branded phone. Your updates will arrive differently and will have a different software number. So using the Europe zip will not help.
city2026 said:
For bloatware removal just push a custom boot.img. Liberty kernel or dt2w presented here works fine, you may try them at least with making a backup of original kernel at first. (Custom made kernel might give you permission to write to /system without being s-off.)
I used liberty one, recently flashed the one with double tap to wake, works perfectly fine. Even sd is fine.
I'm not into kernels, perhaps as long as they suit your device they are fine.
OTA have its script, if it has such strings or if you write it into the script, you may delete some apps. Maybe, didn't try nothing with ota scripting. It easier to find working universal bloatware removal script as flashable zip package.
Otherwise, ota just adds some stuff or replaces current stuff.
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Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance
The Watergod said:
Excellent thanks for the reply so in short,
Grab the downloads from above (4 in total?)
Push and override existing TWRP recovery back to stock recovery (Dumbass Details would be helpful as I have not done this in ages)
copy the ADB the new rom to the phone (Again please forgive me as I have not done this in a few years need a memory jog)
Again thanks in advance
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If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.
city2026 said:
If you'll ask more specificly, I'll provide even shorter reply. )
As I get it, you ask for some short check-list / instruction
You need one of three files I uploaded, based on what do you want. )
You can flash big 1 gb system image v2.19.401.2 through twrp.
You can grab small upgrade package and update your 2.18.401.3 by yourself to have 2.19.401.2. Original firmware and fresh rom state might be needed.
You have other needs, you need just freshest kernel or etc., you grab firmware package and try hook it with bootloader or unzip and get the thing you need.
Pick the option and I'll write simple instruction.
I forget to read your previous post. ) So, you have 2.18.161.3 Vodafone. With root privileges (half-root, I assume)
So, yes, you need to restore original recovery of yours. Then it could handle the ota. If you can get it somewhere, you can update. You can get it in vodafone firmware (big package with everything) or if someone made recovery backup earlier.
My upload contains files for non-locked (operator's) devices.
As long as your phone has operator's rom, I can't give you proper advice. I assume, other recoveries/kernels/etc. might not be ok with your device due to hardware lock or difference.
But you can try always, if you sure you can handle it and revert or if you read on your situation enough. I can't advice you here on 100%.
But. If device is just a device, and roms are just roms (and some operator's special version is just a rom), you can flash other system and kernel and see what happens.
You may do a complete backup and save it somewhere and do one of the following:
Flash firmware.zip* contents, then go to TWRP and format all partitions except sdcard, then flash system image from above.
Just flash some custom 5.1.1 release. I use NostromoPop. It much smoother and it's lollipop.
*Firmware.zip contains boot, hboot, recovery. All that was for 2.19.401.2 but presumably can work separate. So you can get what you want and flash through adb. Like boot and hboot for proper device work on 2.19.401.2, or just recovery to try your vodafone ota w/o dramatic changes.
For futher safeness, you can backup hboot and boot or what you want.
I can recommend you to try custom sense-kernel for system write privileges.
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Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Simply flash custom kernel: like liberty sense or stock sense w/ dt2w.
It will unlock the opportunity to write on every partition. I mean system, cache, etc.
The Watergod said:
Sorry to be a pain and your help is invaluable but just trying not to screw this up, My phone has been unlocked to all networks, and I would like either a stock rom bloatware free or a custom sense rom.
The phone is still S-On but I have unlocked the bootloader (Obviously). I Kept the stock rom hoping to use titanium backup to remove the bloat however I quickly found out the phone needed to be S-Off to remove it completely because as soon as the phone rebooted the bloatware re-installed it's self.
This is how I have the OTA update sat on my phone, I only Rooted for SU privs and put on TWRP everything else was stock. I did as a question in another post "Could I remove the APK from the OTA Zip on my phone then install it using TWRP and would that remove the bloat" but no response to that one.
Any help would be greatly recieved
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Hi
I will assume you have the virus I have been seeing lately that wouldn't allow you to reset the phone, where in reset option the automatic restore option remains checked and you can't uncheck it.
The only solution is through TWRP, you need to enter TWRP, erase Cache, Data, System then flash the Lollipop ROM again or stock from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...one-mini-2-t3250020/post63859743#post63859743
So there is no Rom available that's pretty much stock without bloatware that I can install with twrp? If not is there some idiots guide to putting my stock recovery back on thank you all again
(sorry for my bad english I'm french )
Hi everybody,
I have received a new Nexus 6 32GB... No, sorry, a 64GB model (thanks to my resailer.. he make a mistake in the command, so I have won 32GB more! ).
But, I have few software problems with it...
At each OTA update, I get an error (at the robot opened screen). With almost all versions. This error get me a bootloop after update...
So I must to flash the official Google Image manually, partition by partition (else with NRT, I get an error at system writing step... I don't know why).
When I have fixed Android, finally, I have only.... 23.03 GB... With all versions.
So I must resize it in TWRP at each update (OTA or not).
For the last update, my bootloader have displayed at boot "Your device is corrupted. Blah blah blah..."
I actually make a new OTA update (6.1 I think). But I have an error one more time...
But I have no bootloop this time. The system reboot perfectly but in the old version. And few minutes later, the OTA is notified... Etc etc.
But, if a new system update is available, do you think I will get the same problems?
My system seems to be clean now... But during my multiple trys, my system has been clean too...
Without that, all is good and functionnal. Android, Wifi, LTE, screen, sound..... All!
This is very mysterious... Mostly for a new phone, non-rooted.
I did not want to root it while Google support it, but without root, my phone would still be blocked. That's not normal.
Should I be worried about it?
Thanks everyone!
1. Learn how to use ADB and Fastboot. Toolkits may get the job done, but you learn nothing in using them.
2. If flashing individual images from the system image, NEVER flash userdata.img as it resets your storage to 32GB. Formatting your internal storage using ADB, Fastboot, or in TWRP will restore the missing storage.
3. The system corruption message likely will disappear after you format internal storage and flash the stock images from Google. It will return however if you modify /system by adding files. To permanently remove it requires a custom kernel.
4. This a developer phone. You should be able to root it without losing the warranty.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
1. Learn how to use ADB and Fastboot. Toolkits may get the job done, but you learn nothing in using them.
2. If flashing individual images from the system image, NEVER flash userdata.img as it resets your storage to 32GB. Formatting your internal storage using ADB, Fastboot, or in TWRP will restore the missing storage.
3. The system corruption message likely will disappear after you format internal storage and flash the stock images from Google. It will return however if you modify /system by adding files. To permanently remove it requires a custom kernel.
4. This a developer phone. You should be able to root it without losing the warranty.
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First thanks for your answer!
Oh yes for the 1 and the 4, my precedent phone is a Nexus 4, I know these phones and the steps to root/unroot/flash custom rom/recovery etc.. ^^ (I have made that a looooooot of times on my N4 without any problem, with and without NRT)
And this is for that I am surprised by the bad reaction of my Nexus 6 to this simple actions I request to it. (flashing image files)
I don't make anything I don't know, I am scared to brick my phone because I have made something that I master.
Yes I have forgot this point about userdata.img... But this is not a problem, I have resized my partition after flashing my phone with TWRP =)
The point that are interesting for me is the third point. I want to flash a stock image from Google. It's my goal. (I will flash custom ROM when Google will have stopped the update support)
In fact, my principal big problem is why the OTAs have been failed whereas I just start my phone, out of the box, with no modification and no root.
I'm not a specialist but for me, this is not normal when the phone is out of factory.
I will retry to flash another factory image from Google. This time with the flash-all script.
Thanks =)
Kermi78 said:
(sorry for my bad english I'm french )
Hi everybody,
I have received a new Nexus 6 32GB... No, sorry, a 64GB model (thanks to my resailer.. he make a mistake in the command, so I have won 32GB more! ).
But, I have few software problems with it...
At each OTA update, I get an error (at the robot opened screen). With almost all versions. This error get me a bootloop after update...
So I must to flash the official Google Image manually, partition by partition (else with NRT, I get an error at system writing step... I don't know why).
When I have fixed Android, finally, I have only.... 23.03 GB... With all versions.
So I must resize it in TWRP at each update (OTA or not).
For the last update, my bootloader have displayed at boot "Your device is corrupted. Blah blah blah..."
I actually make a new OTA update (6.1 I think). But I have an error one more time...
But I have no bootloop this time. The system reboot perfectly but in the old version. And few minutes later, the OTA is notified... Etc etc.
But, if a new system update is available, do you think I will get the same problems?
My system seems to be clean now... But during my multiple trys, my system has been clean too...
Without that, all is good and functionnal. Android, Wifi, LTE, screen, sound..... All!
This is very mysterious... Mostly for a new phone, non-rooted.
I did not want to root it while Google support it, but without root, my phone would still be blocked. That's not normal.
Should I be worried about it?
Thanks everyone!
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Next time you flash and go into twrp make sure to select the "leave system read-only" option. Otherwise twrp will patch /system to survive a reboot and any modification to /system will break the next ota.
Kermi78 said:
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But, if a new system update is available, do you think I will get the same problems?
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Flash the latest TWRP 3.0 and the lite stock ROM of @Danvdh. This ROM has all you need, including root and OTA.
StykerB said:
Next time you flash and go into twrp make sure to select the "leave system read-only" option. Otherwise twrp will patch /system to survive a reboot and any modification to /system will break the next ota.
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I have tried this. Thank you for this tip. I did not know Bootloader and OTAs fail depends of /system state. (I have never modified official google image. If I modify a device, it's with a custom rom like CM for example. Without my problem at the first start I would not have modify anything on my phone)
First, I don't have the bootloader message, that's a half good news
I download actually the MRA58N OTA update. Crossing fingers! =)
NLBeev said:
Flash the latest TWRP 3.0 and the lite stock ROM of @Danvdh. This ROM has all you need, including root and OTA.
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My goal is to use the official Google Nexus Factory Images with official bootloader, etc.... Exactly the state of a normal Nexus out of the box.
But thank you. In last resort I will think of your tip.
StykerB said:
Next time you flash and go into twrp make sure to select the "leave system read-only" option. Otherwise twrp will patch /system to survive a reboot and any modification to /system will break the next ota.
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So after my last try of OTA, 2 times, the update has been succeded!
Just thanks a lot! :good:
I notify this thread resolved
Kermi78 said:
My goal is to use the official Google Nexus Factory Images with official bootloader, etc....
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Than you can't use layers. You have to live with the white Google ui, battery drain and hurting eyes.
NLBeev said:
Than you can't use layers. You have to live with the white Google ui, battery drain and hurting eyes.
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Oh no that's good for me, I love Android Stock and I hate layers
For the battery... You see, my last phone was a Nexus 4. So the battery life of Nexus 6 is so wonderful for me!
In all cases, my phone is now stock and functionnal. Just that I want for the moment... I will see later for install other roms on it
I want to be simple things.
Kermi78 said:
(sorry for my bad english I'm french )
Hi everybody,
I have received a new Nexus 6 32GB... No, sorry, a 64GB model (thanks to my resailer.. he make a mistake in the command, so I have won 32GB more! ).
But, I have few software problems with it...
At each OTA update, I get an error (at the robot opened screen). With almost all versions. This error get me a bootloop after update...
So I must to flash the official Google Image manually, partition by partition (else with NRT, I get an error at system writing step... I don't know why).
When I have fixed Android, finally, I have only.... 23.03 GB... With all versions.
So I must resize it in TWRP at each update (OTA or not).
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DON'T INSTALL THE userdata.img file and this won't happen.