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Another S2 or Note?

Hi everyone,
I will be upgrading in late Feb. The options are: another s2 or Note.
Love my s2 (rooted with Illusion-xT v1.4.2 - XWKL1 2.3.6) , played a bit with Note and its size is not a problem for me.
I really have no time to go through the forum to find my answers.
I'd like to know:
- the battery life compared to s2
- does Note do everything that s2 does?
- call recording quality pls, does anyone use Total Recall?
- application compatibility with s2
- overall performance compared to s2
- your experience if you are owning both s2 and Note
- TV out - like in s2?
Thanks a lot guys!

qwerty1q said:
- the battery life compared to s2
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About roughly the same, the 250mAH is to feed the huge screen. I get the same video playback time of 9hrs on the S2 and on the Note. Gaming might suffer since it needs to compute for more pixels.
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- application compatibility with s2
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No issues, Andriod apps mostly scale to the screen and if they dont developers fix then quite fast.
qwerty1q said:
- does Note do everything that s2 does?
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The Galaxy Note is different device but is an upgrade for the Galaxy S2 in a way.
qwerty1q said:
- overall performance compared to s2
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Some say the note lags/UI stutters more than the Galaxy S2.. this is only true when you use the pinch to view the home screen or the app drawer which is a TW issue, anything other than that the Note does things FASTER than the S2 which is expected as it is a better device even under the hood.
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- your experience if you are owning both s2 and Note
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I find it difficult to now use a phone with anything less than 5.3" of a screen, this is one major drawback once you get attached to the Galaxy note.
Altho both phones are not with out its issues, faces similar issues on both ends though
You havent asked this but the GPS on the Gnote is amazing, you can even get a signal lock indoors all of this due to the GLONASS that it has, but its not that accurate as compared to dedicated GPS devices yet.

Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?

Howdy.
Typed up a quick compairison between the two if you wanna take a moment to read it here.
One thing that I didn't mention in that post is TV out, and it's exactly the same as you would do so on a GSII; plug in an MHL adapter.
I personally haven't used GPS on the phone enough to count, but everyone else who has, has said it's the best they've used thus far. Much better than a GSII
If you go for it, you'll love it.
And hey! If you're not satisfied with it, go ahead and sell it and use those funds for either a new GSII or, when the time comes, put it towards it's successor.
But I doubt you'll want to once you get your hands on this baby

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Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
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Thank you EarlZ
Yes I ve forgotten to ask about GPS as I am gonna use my Copilot and Sygic very often.
What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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I've never used TV out on the S2 but I assume they will be exactly the same.
DarkShot666
Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.

EarlZ said:
DarkShot666
Just took a quick peek at your post and I noticed you mention at 25% there is no issue viewing it under direct sunlight? I even have issues with the S2 or the note at 100% brightness under direct sunlight well ofcourse this varies how bright the sun is shining though.
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I've personally never noticed any issues. It could very well be that any light that I was under wasn't 100% dead on, but my Note screen is always one of two brightness levels: 25% and 0%. I've never had a need to crank it any more.

Are you a big guy? (ie 6" + ?)
Then get the Note.

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What about TV-out - the same as s2?
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Used on both. More or less the same, yes.
For both devices, however, the system UI outputs at native resolution. So when you're web browsing or just going through menus and such, the S2 is at 800x480, the Note is 1280x800; noticeable difference.
I will say though, that the Note does seem to slow down quite a bit when hooked up to the TV for moving about the UI or playing games and such (mainly because, not only does it have to render 3x as many pixels already, but now it's doing it twice over(!!!), it's quite a burden, and it shows.
That said, it's still (mostly) functional, and when using it for video output (even full 1080p), it is flawless there.
P.S. I'm selling my international GS2 if you're interested. Send me a PM

Can the S4 pro handle the high res?

Coming from a nexus 10 it is painfully apparent that the internal is is insufficient to handle such a high res which is why im returning it in hope of picking an xperia Z up however having said that....
1) Looking at videos there seems to be a bit of lag and stuttering as people move around the interface.
2) People who have had experiences with the DNA might be able to tell us a bit more.

Fasty12 said:
Coming from a nexus 10 it is painfully apparent that the internal is is insufficient to handle such a high res which is why im returning it in hope of picking an xperia Z up however having said that....
1) Looking at videos there seems to be a bit of lag and stuttering as people move around the interface.
2) People who have had experiences with the DNA might be able to tell us a bit more.
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one of my friends with the DNA says its super smooth even with heavy sense skin on it and the hd display
the s4 processor is a beast.. so dont worry
and the videos dont do justice capturing the quality of the display and the smoothness of the OS.
but i would say once its out just try it out at a store.. and then go for it..

The APQ8064 is insanely fast and efficient with a very good GPU. It'll be fine. From what I've heard the Xperia Z is extremely smooth in operation.

The internals of the Nexus 10 seem fine to me
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Trust me theres a lot of stuttering moving around the UI and Lag

Its looked smooth on every video I've seen. Where has it lagged?

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Trust me theres a lot of stuttering moving around the UI and Lag
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I own a Nexus 10 and have noticed very little lag. I think you are overstating the issue.

The ZL is speedy enough for me. Just about as fast as my Nexus 4, and the ZL is running very beta firmware. Gaming might be a different story, but most of the good games offer some type of resolution scaling.

I don't know whether the S4pro is sufficient to maintain a 100% smooth and fast ui experience, but the videos I have seen all seem to show that it is powerfull enough. Web browsing in particular seems super smooth.
My only concern with the XZ is the battery life, I really hope it's better than the XS.

Google knows best and they have access to both. They decided on the Qualcomm S4 pro for the Nexus 4 and the Exynos 5 for the Nexus 10. You figure out the rest. If Samsung/Google wanted to use the S4 pro, it wouldn't be hard considering Samsung is only Qualcomms biggest customer and uses their chips for the North American Galaxy S handsets.
I don't even think the Qualcomm S4 pro can even support 2560 x 1600 actually.
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Yup, I was correct. One version of the S4 pro maxes out at WUXGA(with a modem) resolution and the more powerful one is a little higher at QXGA(without a modem) resolutiuon.
It can't even run the Nexus 10 even if they wanted to.
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Watch this video.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4
Enough said, the S4 pro chokes a bit on sense and 1080p. Not sure how much better the tablet Z would fair with 1920 x 1200.
You won't get much smoother than the Nexus 10. Wait for an update before you sell. When I had mine before my Brother went overseas and couldn't wait until Google restocked, my Nexus 10 was lights out smoother than my Nexus 4, which has an S4 pro and a much lower resolution.

The S4 pro no only handle high res. ITS MAKE CARNAGES AND SMASH HEADS!!!!!!:cyclops:

4K video on the S5 not as good as the Note 3

Ok so i recently bought a S5 900F, one thing I've noticed is that 4K video from the S5 isn't as good as that from the Note 3, which i also had.
For some reason on the S5 the colours look slightly over saturated, the note 3 looks more natural.
Also video sharpness seem to be slightly better on the Note 3 aswell, I have a 4K monitor so can see the difference, which doesn't show on a 1080p screen .
The most annoying thing i've found recording in 4K on the S5, is that it has a tendency to skip if the lighting conditions suddenly change quickly, doesn't do it all of the time but when it does it spoils the video, I've tested another S5 and it does the same thing so it's a camera firmware issues that maybe fixed in the future, the Note 3 doesn't have this problem at all both where recorded on the same 64GB Samsung class 10 card.
Tbh i quite disappointed with 4K on the S5 if anything it should be better than that of the Note 3 but atm it isn't, as the S5 is still new i may get sorted out with future fixes, but as it stands the Sony sensor does a better job atm than the Samsung sensor in 4K.

If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.

toews said:
If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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It's not the matter. S5 is new device and it has advance technology than n3. It should superior than n3 in terms of pictures and video quality. I hope its software problem than hardware coz software can be fix
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Ave666 said:
It's not the matter. S5 is new device and it has advance technology than n3. It should superior than n3 in terms of pictures and video quality. I hope its software problem than hardware coz software can be fix
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So? The N3 is bigger than the S5 so it's easier to put better hardware in there.

Not the case of better hardware, the S5 has better hardware it's either to do with the new Samsung Sensor or the camera firmware.
We've only had one update so far I think for the S5, and with the sensor being new tech, we may see a few tweaks to it and the firmware in future updates.
But as it stands now camera is better picture wise than either the Note 3 & S4 , video on the otherhand moreso in 4K could be better.
And the very random skipping it sometimes does that really needs to be sorted though.
As for having a real camera, I've got a couple of really real camera's, but i don't tend to carry them around with me everywhere i go.

toews said:
So? The N3 is bigger than the S5 so it's easier to put better hardware in there.
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Haha nice one. Size doesn't matter dude. Look other phone. They can squeeze the part of the phone to the 8 mm thin
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Im on the fence about this one, just my opinion but I felt the 13mp sony sensor was one of the best ever seen on a smart phone for all round experience. The S5 definitely takes better 'well lit' shots, however, the N3 kills it in low light and as for 4k I agree with OP, hopefully updates will improve it.
toews said:
If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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you ought to be careful some of your posts are considered trolling!

The S5 video seems equal to the N3 after installing this camera mod. This mod bumps the 4K bitrate up from 50 Mbps to 85 Mbps, etc. patterned after kevinrocksman's original N3 camera mod.
That is not to say that both devices then become identical. Or that one clearly outperforms the other. The mod vanquishes glaring differences, but the S5 still performs better in some aspects and less so in others. A nuanced comparison would need careful and controlled A/B testing.

toews said:
If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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Quit being a douche. Your comment has no bearing at all, you're just being an asshole.
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Djspinister said:
Quit being a douche. Your comment has no bearing at all, you're just being an asshole.
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Not heart feeling but he only trolling around i guess

homer285 said:
. The S5 definitely takes better 'well lit' shots, however, the N3 kills it in low light and as for 4k I agree with OP, hopefully updates will improve it.
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I wonder how many of you when speaking about low light performance of the Camera for Photos actually use HDR ON ?
As for the 4k Video this is still very new tech currently limited to 5 minutes video which is not very good but it`s connected to some buffers filling up. I could imagine that the issue is mostly with the RAM memory not enough for 4k Video recording on the S5 as all of us know N3 has bigger Ram size which will explain why there is flickering on the S5 probably because video buffers are filled out.
Hope this helps.

It seems s5 is not a good choice

bnight said:
I wonder how many of you when speaking about low light performance of the Camera for Photos actually use HDR ON ?
As for the 4k Video this is still very new tech currently limited to 5 minutes video which is not very good but it`s connected to some buffers filling up. I could imagine that the issue is mostly with the RAM memory not enough for 4k Video recording on the S5 as all of us know N3 has bigger Ram size which will explain why there is flickering on the S5 probably because video buffers are filled out.
Hope this helps.
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So all those other flagships with 4K video and 2GB ram are also unable to record too well? That's not the case. 2GB is well enough for the task.
This is more a sensor/Firmware issue in my opinion. Or camera tuning that is needed.
Some article mentioned that the limit is more of the phone hitting a Thermal threshold due to the high demand of 4k recording.
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fanling3 said:
It seems s5 is not a good choice
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Really useless comment to post on an S5 forum, don't you think?
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Maybe most of the tweaks to the camera firmware will come with 4.4.3, which is due this month on the S5.
Also Sony has a new 16mp OIS module coming out soon, which is apparently is going into the Note 4, looks like Samsung don't have much faith in it's own sensor if that being the case, because of all the bigging up they did of their own sensor here http://connect.dpreview.com/post/0315472077/samsung-explains-the-galaxy-s5-isocell-sensor
You think they would put it in the Note 4 if rumours end up being true.

fanling3 said:
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Was is a good choice? your iPhone?

Definitely need to buy a camera if you're really concerned about video.

Should i buy the Huawei P9 ?

Hello,i want to change my phone. Now i'm having a little P8 Lite and i really like this phone,good performance and everything for the money i paid. Now i want to upgrade,i wanted an OnePlus 3 but he's ruined now and i really want to hear some things about the P9. About performance,battery,updates (+other things)and if there are any stable custom rom (i didnt searched nothing about). Thanks a lot !

3GB RAM seems plenty good (though I don't play games on it)
Camera is good (this is a big deal since the camera is such an important part of a smartphone)
Performance is great for me (non-gamer)
Battery life is awesome compared to my 5 year old phone that ran Android 4.
Hate the stock launcher, but Nova fixed that and I really like my P9.
Only real pain in the ass was rooting it, but maybe others had no problems rooting.
Not sure about custom ROMs because it is still pretty new.
Seems Nougart beta update is here, but lots of people trying to go back so I'll wait till it is out of beta.
btw - isn't the P8 only a year old? are you really buying a new phone every year? If so, you have too much monies. gimme gimme gimme some plz lol

No!! Don't buy it! It´s ****! It is pure ****! I have it for 8 months now and i hate it!
Go get a Oneplus 3T

JohnDaviz said:
No!! Don't buy it! It´s ****! It is pure ****! I have it for 8 months now and i hate it!
Go get a Oneplus 3T
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okay. I don´t care The phone ist mostly average. The hype over the camera is just a hype and the S7 Camera is WAY better.
Apps crash. Aluminum Frame is to sensitive. Display gets scratches VERY fast. There are way better phones for the money.
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Oh and i forgot. EMUI is really bad. Trying to be Apple but not understanding what users really need. Shiny on the surface. Big lacking in depth.

I'm using P9 for 4 months now and I wouldn't buy it again. The biggest problem with this phone is its software- it's a huge mess, it has problems with notifications and killing apps in background (you have set EVERY app to keep it in memory if you want to keep it in memory after turning off the display) to , the camera takes around 10 seconds to open and it can really really slow down. Sometimes it's ultra fast and responds to commends immediately but other time it can be slow as f***. But not all is bad: display is very good, camera performs well (video recording sucks tho) and it doesn't run hot. So yeah, I would consider some other phone on your place. OnePlus 3T propably.

I have it for 2 month and started to dislike it. At first I loved it, now I would gladly switch it with OnePlus 3/T. Don't buy. Better invest in Samsung now they are on sale or a lot cheaper.

Wow!! Anyone here interested in selling their P9?

So much negativity
I bought it pretty much day one and I still love it. It's the best phone I ever used. The design is very nice imho and while it's not bullet prove it's certainly better than the all glass Samsung ones. The software is meh, but this is android so you can do pretty much anything you like. I'd love to have double tap to wake but other than that I'm very happy and compared to Samsung and Sony phones which I used in the past updates are basically as slow as any other android, except nexus/pixel of course. Battery life is nice too.
One+ is a great alternative but the screen size is borderline big for me even with the p9 so that would not be an option for me personally.

I have it for few monts and it's working very well. The camera are working great, no more than 2 seconds for opening, no lag even after I have downgraded from Nougat ...
Yeah, maybe is not so great like the S7's camera, not so good in low light, but the price is other too ... in good light the pictures are very good. I'm loving this EMUI, it is simple and intuitive. Between S7/S7 Edge and P9, the last was the winner when I have made the choice ...

A quick review best Out-of-the-Box Android phone yet

Without a doubt this is the best android phone out of the box yet ever. I am real happy to be able to take the best pics I ever took. It is also the best native apps set
The Samsung app set is good. Am almost off external apps. I have pushed vlc music player aside somewhat, as well as es file explorer, as well as the hacker keyboard. As I am real glad Samsung has its own keyboard and not the exterior keyboard types with their agreements and data collection.
The best thing is probably in "device care" where there is a RAM clearer under memory tab that clears out those apps that I use most often like social video apps and browser apps caches. This happening all at the press of 1 button.
Music app works well but still (as in VLC also it is) I can not go to album from a song that's playing. It would be a good option. The music comes up really fast after it indexes and takes up a much lower amount data to save.

I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?

Captain Beretta said:
I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?
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Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.

kruc Ire said:
Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.
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Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:

Captain Beretta said:
Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:
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yeah but I kno that b

kruc Ire said:
yeah but I kno that b
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this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.

y.erenbektas said:
this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.
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right. No I mean not joking this things the best. I don't ever wanna mess with those 500 sterling phones again. or 1000 sterling. This phone has the best apps and whatnot. Seriously like I said, the keyboard and whole feel.
Sometimes I looked back at my first phones and they were not much bigger screen than a credit card and they were so magnificent to me then. Like the Motorola Droid 2. How awesome was that thing. In the end the phone's no better than its apps. I remember when Droid 2 got the droid 3 update and they like removed the 2 notch and -2 notch in the phone's camera brightness or something like that. Some other things too.
But If ya look around the samsung developers appear to have done something pretty special with this phone in the apps I mentioned op. I mean look at the junk that is the phones of yesteryear.
Htc my god just junk. They all had "Swiftkey" keyboard after awhile. The only option was to go emoticonless and use the Hacker Keypad. So we got that. I have a literally yellow and black background with white keys board here that doesn't report back to "Swiftkey" or "Touchpal" aaand really naive the way the music app works. It's not giant screensized art but it's real fast to load. Settings, man settings. I understand that you probably have a phone from MI6, but those other apps I mentioned and settings like dark mode. Can't be beat. And the shell of THIS phone is plastic, no cracking with sudden temp changes!
No if you think about it this phone is the best phone there ever was. An I mean seriously no phones that cost 1000 sterling. or even 700. You can keep your MI6 phone, I don't even need a phone that can disable a charging water buffalo thru sonar at 100 paces...
and forget about moddable, or modded phones. There needs to be some discussion someplace about just how evil the bad elements custom rom community has gotten for people like me who never committed no crimes when they wanted us to.

i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features

alaa96 said:
i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features
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Gcam does work with it

@bodomfan it does but at 6 mega pixel i 16:9 or 8 mega pixel in 4:3 aspect ration which is lower than the stock app also no wide angle lense support