SM-9200 or SM-9208 for AT&T - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which do you recommend I get to use with AT&T SM-9200 or SM-9208? I am at a loss to find the difference in the two.

The SM-N9200 could have no Google apps if it wasn't purchased from Hong Kong, otherwise they're the same. Stick to the SM-N9208.

Yuhfhrh said:
The SM-N9200 could have no Google apps if it wasn't purchased from Hong Kong, otherwise they're the same. Stick to the SM-N9208.
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yep, i'm using the 9208 on AT&T and T-Mobile, but primarily AT&T. absolutely no issues to date.

Yuhfhrh said:
The SM-N9200 could have no Google apps if it wasn't purchased from Hong Kong, otherwise they're the same. Stick to the SM-N9208.
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You're point about the gapps is correct, but the N9200 and N9208 are not the same. The N9200 is the only variant that uses a Qualcomm modem. All the other variants use a Samsung modem. Result: much less kernels compatible with N9200...

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Galaxy note 5 dual sim: N9200 or N9208

Hi,
I have been thru many sites (and Samsung one), but I can't really see the difference between these 2 models.
They are both dual sim and comes either with 32 or 64 gb memory.
Can someone summerize the main differences ?
Thanks
Nothing except one is single and the other is dual sim.
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Well, first I though that only the N9208 was dual sim, but a e-store advertize the N9200 also as dual sim.
look there: http://www.eglobalcentral.fr/samsung-galaxy-note-5-n9200-4g-lte-64go-dual-sim-desimlocke-or-fr.html
Confusing no ?
ibowl77 said:
Hi,
I have been thru many sites (and Samsung one), but I can't really see the difference between these 2 models.
They are both dual sim and comes either with 32 or 64 gb memory.
Can someone summerize the main differences ?
Thanks
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N9200 is for China market and N9208 is for Hong Kong, that suppose to be the only difference. Both are dual sim (or N9200 has single sim option also, but I know that it has dual for sure).
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OK this is clear and I presume both can be used in France ?
Thanks for this clarification.
ibowl77 said:
OK this is clear and I presume both can be used in France ?
Thanks for this clarification.
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The 9208 im sure can be used in France. 9208 was released in the Philippines which uses the same GSM bands as Europe. Im not sure about 9200. China might have a special band like Japan or the US
If I look at the specifications on eglobal site, all frequencies used in France are available on the N9200. I was more concerned about the possibility of using french language (and the predictibility writen).
I have used the N9200 (dual SIM, Hong Kong variant, network-unlocked) in UK/India/Qatar with respective local carriers and with no major issues.
When you say "no major issues" that means you got minor ones? Which functions were affected ?
Do you get the regular updates on the firmware ?
Thanks for mentioning.
I got the N9200 Hong Kong version. And using it ever since in Belgium. No problems at all.
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ibowl77 said:
OK this is clear and I presume both can be used in France ?
Thanks for this clarification.
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Both are gsm and can work in Europe.
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Great, thanks for mentioning.
ibowl77 said:
Hi,
I have been thru many sites (and Samsung one), but I can't really see the difference between these 2 models.
They are both dual sim and comes either with 32 or 64 gb memory.
Can someone summerize the main differences ?
Thanks
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Go for Sm N9208 as in china market play store is banned. So you might fell trouble in installing play store in N9200.
elmor0 said:
I have used the N9200 (dual SIM, Hong Kong variant, network-unlocked) in UK/India/Qatar with respective local carriers and with no major issues.
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Someone has quoted that the N9200 which is for China market does not have the "Play store" program. How do you manage that ?
Did you install it later on and are you facing any problem with it ?
ibowl77 said:
Someone has quoted that the N9200 which is for China market does not have the "Play store" program. How do you manage that ?
Did you install it later on and are you facing any problem with it ?
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The N9200 (TGY; Honk Kong variant) came with Google PlayStore pre-installed so I had no such problems.
I guess you can always install G-Apps (including PlayStore) on the Chinese N9200 once rooted.
The reason why I look at the N9200 / N9208 64 gb is to avoid a root. I did rooted 2 x GN3 (mainly for avoiding the SD card restrictions) and it's a little bit hasardous. Also we don't get the firmware updates and we loose the warranty.
ibowl77 said:
The reason why I look at the N9200 / N9208 64 gb is to avoid a root. I did rooted 2 x GN3 (mainly for avoiding the SD card restrictions) and it's a little bit hasardous. Also we don't get the firmware updates and we loose the warranty.
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I experienced really bad battery on 9208, some generic software related bug (android system was draining battery, no deep sleep), so I was forced to do root, and with custom kernel everything was ok with battery. One friend had the same issue and rooting solved the problem. Have that in mind also, but maybe other people here haven't had any battery drain issues, but worth mentioning.
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I have the N9208 and have had no any kind of battery issues till now (6.0.1) where it just seems to last as long as when I was still on 5.1.1. that's even using a Package Disabler and Greenify (for hibernating). in other words, seems to be firmware than hardware. I am using this in the US.
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Dear All,
I'm not sure where can I post.
Is there any MM v6 custom rom for N9208 dual sims?
If yes, please let me know.
Thanks in advance.

looking to buy note 8, what is best model to buy?

Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
vifzor said:
Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
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Go with exynos. Your other answers in xda search button.
Nick216ohio said:
Go with exynos. Your other answers in xda search button.
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Thx for your answer, so it seems like N950FD is the best?
vifzor said:
Thx for your answer, so it seems like N950FD is the best?
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If you need dual SIM go for the N950FD if not go for the regular N950F which is the same as FD except dual sim
Darktitor said:
If you need dual SIM go for the N950FD if not go for the regular N950F which is the same as FD except dual sim
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Does N950F support micro SD card?
Yes, it does
Take a look through the oem unlock thread too.
acctualy the korean n950n would be considered a sure bet. specially if you consider the 256gb version.
there are no issues with the oem unlock. other exynos F/FD's might have that problem.
What is eom unlock?
Sorry for the noob question
vifzor said:
What is eom unlock?
Sorry for the noob question
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Google
vifzor said:
Hello, I'm looking to buy a new note 8. I live in Belgium.
But I'm not sure what is the best model to buy.
So my aim is to root the phone and install a kernel or/and ROM to improve the battery life of the phone and it's longevity (I had a galaxy s3 for more than 5 years, on which I did rooting, was pretty happy about the improved battery life and the fact that it's still working fine)
I also notice that you can get snapdragon or exynos depending on the model you buy? Is the difference between these 2 significant?
So there is different model i found on the market :
-n9500 which from what I understood is the Honk-Kong or Chinese model? Seems like I should avoid it because because it doesn't support kernel or ROM?
-n950F which is european version?
-n950FD international version?
-n950N Korean version it seems.
What is your opinion on the model I should buy?
Best regards,
vifzor
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The only two main considerations IMO (since you already stated you are going to root, so Samsung Pay is out):
N950F/D has full dual-SIM functionality out of the box, so if you need dual SIM this would seem like a smart choice
N950N can be purchased in a 256gb internal capacity version which is great if you want large internal storage
Since you are going to run a custom ROM anyway, there is no functional difference between the two, save for dual-SIM on the F/D
As others mentioned, one potential issue with the N950F or F/D is that they need to be SIM-activated in their intended region before you can use them with a different country SIM card, and people have found that the OEM Unlock (to unlock the bootloader) option is either missing, doesn't show up for 7 days after first use, or disappears after flashing new firmware or ROMs. This is not an issue with the Korean N950N as Korean models are never region, SIM, or carrier locked and do not require the local SIM activation.
Kalm_Traveler said:
The only two main considerations IMO (since you already stated you are going to root, so Samsung Pay is out):
N950F/D has full dual-SIM functionality out of the box, so if you need dual SIM this would seem like a smart choice
N950N can be purchased in a 256gb internal capacity version which is great if you want large internal storage
Since you are going to run a custom ROM anyway, there is no functional difference between the two, save for dual-SIM on the F/D
As others mentioned, one potential issue with the N950F or F/D is that they need to be SIM-activated in their intended region before you can use them with a different country SIM card, and people have found that the OEM Unlock (to unlock the bootloader) option is either missing, doesn't show up for 7 days after first use, or disappears after flashing new firmware or ROMs. This is not an issue with the Korean N950N as Korean models are never region, SIM, or carrier locked and do not require the local SIM activation.
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mhh..
So seems like buying the N950F or F/D is like playing lottery?
I guess I'll go for the N950N then. But the price is much more expensive because of the custom fee unfortunately...
vifzor said:
mhh..
So seems like buying the N950F or F/D is like playing lottery?
I guess I'll go for the N950N then. But the price is much more expensive because of the custom fee unfortunately...
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Then the LTE speeds in the USA will suffer.
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Limeybastard said:
Then the LTE speeds in the USA will suffer.
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depends on the provider used, the N950N supports all 3 of T-Mobile's main bands 2, 4, and 12 and I'm regularly getting download speeds over 100 Mbps, uploads around 40 Mbps, which is faster than what my T-Mobile-branded Note 5 got in the same areas.
Kalm_Traveler said:
depends on the provider used, the N950N supports all 3 of T-Mobile's main bands 2, 4, and 12 and I'm regularly getting download speeds over 100 Mbps, uploads around 40 Mbps, which is faster than what my T-Mobile-branded Note 5 got in the same areas.
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Mr Kalm_Traveler, is the Korean N8 the best N8 worldwide.?
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Limeybastard said:
Mr Kalm_Traveler, is the Korean N8 the best N8 worldwide.?
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haha 'best' is arbitrary depending on what you want out of a Note 8. It's my preferred because I wanted Exynos, 256gb internal storage, and supported LTE bands for my carrier. For anyone who needs dual-sim functionality I would direct them to the N950F/D or I believe there is an N9500 dual-SIM model in Hong Kong. If someone just wants a Note 8 and won't need dual SIM, lots of internal space, and won't want to root it, the 'best' Note 8 is likely the one that their carrier offers.
I plan to buy N950N 256 go in South Korea because I'm scared about custom fee(only possible to buy phone from outside Europe) and I want to go to SK anyway.
But If I buy N950N in South Korea can I start using it there or should I wait to use it for the first time in Belgium? I guess it should be fine but I'm not sure.
vifzor said:
I plan to buy N950N 256 go in South Korea because I'm scared about custom fee(only possible to buy phone from outside Europe) and I want to go to SK anyway.
But If I buy N950N in South Korea can I start using it there or should I wait to use it for the first time in Belgium? I guess it should be fine but I'm not sure.
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You mean if it is region locked?
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Limeybastard said:
You mean if it is region locked?
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Yes, I'm planning to buy this phone : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y29JGF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A613J2Y1GRBOO&psc=1
But I'm concerned also by the fact there is CDMA, is it a big deal?
Best regards,
vifzor
vifzor said:
Yes, I'm planning to buy this phone : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y29JGF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A613J2Y1GRBOO&psc=1
But I'm concerned also by the fact there is CDMA, is it a big deal?
Best regards,
vifzor
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The Amazon link you mentioned says it's not CDMA. So it seems to be an Exynos Korean version. If it was CDMA then it would be a Snapdragon Note 8 which would still work in Belgium if there is no region lock or SP lock.
EDIT, I searched google and came up with this thread about the SM-N950N all the information is on the first post. thank you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/sm-n950n-t3700818
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SM-N9600 sold on amazon.co.uk

Hi,
I received dual sim version of NOte9. It is unfortunately SM-N9600 verision, which I can see is LATM region. It came with uk charging brick though. ANy chances to chave the region changed (snapdragon) obviosly, preferably to European?
That is not possible as the N9600 is designed for the Asian market. That said it should work perfectly in the UK as it is a GSM device. However you won't be able to use Samsung Pay
It was sold on amazon.co.uk described as International version. And the phone was equipped with 3 pin UK charger, which I believe was a false advertising and re-boxed. I contacted the seller, but I will also file a claim on Amazon. Disappointing. I am getting Chinese notifications from time to time, that's why I wanted to flash English language based Rome, in terns of region. Not possible than?
That's seem strange, I ordered and received the N9600 version (particularly dual sim blue 8/512).
I live in Europe, where the official is exynos version.
My phone works flawlessly, no Chinese notifications, during initial setup I had all language choices.
Only some particular services provided by my local GSM services are not supported (like wifi calling or volte)
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Yes, but 9600 is not an international version, is it?
boober78 said:
Yes, but 9600 is not an international version, is it?
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Well hong Kong and latin America so sort of international.
If your getting Chinese stuff on there even though you said yours is latin it must be running chinese firmware. Id suggest flashing latin america firmware to try and get rid of that annoyance.
Use fw.updato.com and get a Latam version of the firmware to flash in Odin. That'll get rid of Smart Manager and the other Chinese crap.
force70 said:
Well hong Kong and latin America so sort of international.
If your getting Chinese stuff on there even though you said yours is latin it must be running chinese firmware. Id suggest flashing latin america firmware to try and get rid of that annoyance.
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I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
He has a n9600 not 960f....that phone can comes from HK or latin america.
In his case yes it can be firmware.
p.dixon0 said:
I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
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Sent from my Note 9 exynos, S9 plus exynos, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
p.dixon0 said:
I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
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It was a misconfiguration, I suspect, where the Galaxy app had announcement in Korean about some offers for the users in South Korea. That has now disappeared.
Zacharee1 said:
Use fw.updato.com and get a Latam version of the firmware to flash in Odin. That'll get rid of Smart Manager and the other Chinese crap.
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Sorry i am off topic but i want to ask you if your amazing app sa2ration works on Exynos Note 9. I am interested to buy it! Thanks!
nathasnajperowa said:
That's seem strange, I ordered and received the N9600 version (particularly dual sim blue 8/512).
I live in Europe, where the official is exynos version.
My phone works flawlessly, no Chinese notifications, during initial setup I had all language choices.
Only some particular services provided by my local GSM services are not supported (like wifi calling or volte)
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hey there, just wondering, did you buy that version for root?
also, do you have any issues with speeds /carrier aggregation?
I bought this version for gpu performance.
LTE and overall data speed and band aggregations works flawlessly. No issues at all.
Exynos was not capable in gaming and everyday smoothness and speed in every day scenario
Catch the proper info from professional
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13582/samsung-galaxy-note9-performance-review-snapdragon-vs-exynos

Will i able to use s10 snapdragon variants in uk/India ??

Will i able to get updates ?
Will i able to use volte(LTE) with UK/INDIA carrier or will i face any network issue?
or any other issue if i use snapdragon variant in non- snapdragon region.
Thank you in advance.
I'm using a Hong Kong model G9730 Snapdragon in UK, EE network. Everything works fine, updates and LTE+. The only thing that doesn't work is Samsung Pay but Google Pay works perfect. Can't say anything about other UK carriers or India.
ixman said:
I'm using a Hong Kong model G9730 Snapdragon in UK, EE network. Everything works fine, updates and LTE+. The only thing that doesn't work is Samsung Pay but Google Pay works perfect. Can't say anything about other UK carriers or India.
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Does VOLTE works? or it switches back to 3G/H for calls
devtstm said:
Will i able to get updates ?
Will i able to use volte(LTE) with UK/INDIA carrier or will i face any network issue?
or any other issue if i use snapdragon variant in non- snapdragon region.
Thank you in advance.
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Updates - not sure yet, we can push manually via adb.
VOLTE - In India, Airtel, Yes. I am currently using.

Using SM-G9730 HK version in UK or EU

I’m thinking about buying a Hong Kong model phone unlocked in the UK from wondamobile.com
And was wondering what issues I might face with updates play store google pay Samsung pay volte just any issues I might encounter as I’m in the UK - not bothered about rooting and flashing new roms as I literally have no clue how to do either so some advice would be good
No issues here. The only thing that I figured out recently is that the stock keyboard is a bit different than on the international version. It's not really a big deal since the stock keyboard kind of suck anyway. Use Gboard
Other than that the HK version has no compatibilities issues with what you mentioned
Mini Jay said:
No issues here. The only thing that I figured out recently is that the stock keyboard is a bit different than on the international version. It's not really a big deal since the stock keyboard kind of suck anyway. Use Gboard
Other than that the HK version has no compatibilities issues with what you mentioned
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Are you UK based - also where did you buy your hk phone
As far as I understand your Google account is based on where your created it. So if it is UK you won't have an issue with app updates. I am in Thailand and use a UK Google account and it updates fine.
You'll get the HK samsung system updates for that model rather than UK version.
The HK samsung keyboard doesn't have the option to swap languages by swiping sideways on the space bar.
Samsung pay might be the HK version?
I would check that the frequencies match the UK so that you get full LTE switching.
Expansys sell HK phones.
I personally purchased a UK version and had it sent to TH as I like the keyboard language switching and the 512GB version is not available here locally.
I wasn't fussed about Exynos or Snapdragon CPUs.
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reverendhtc said:
As far as I understand your Google account is based on where your created it. So if it is UK you won't have an issue with app updates. I am in Thailand and use a UK Google account and it updates fine.
You'll get the HK samsung system updates for that model rather than UK version.
The HK samsung keyboard doesn't have the option to swap languages by swiping sideways on the space bar.
Samsung pay might be the HK version?
I would check that the frequencies match the UK so that you get full LTE switching.
Expansys sell HK phones.
I personally purchased a UK version and had it sent to TH as I like the keyboard language switching and the 512GB version is not available here locally.
I wasn't fussed about Exynos or Snapdragon CPUs.
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What do you mean about google accounts because the phone will be from Hk but I use Uk google account so would I need hk google account even thought I’m from the uk
krackalackel02 said:
What do you mean about google accounts because the phone will be from Hk but I use Uk google account so would I need hk google account even thought I’m from the uk
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Your existing Google account will work just fine.
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Loads of info regarding the HK variant here
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...hare_pid=79200109&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
welcome for discussing about our hong kong variant.<br />
our model have snapdragon, bootloader can be unlocked and also be rooted[emoji3][emoji3]
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