I've asked around /r/GalaxyS6 about this but no one's really responded.
AOF4 sucks. There's a lot of bloatware even with Package Disabler. Plus, I hate having a unrooted phone.
Is there ANY way yet to be able to get root? Kernel, odin, anything?
If not, is there any way to downgrade?
I don't even care about tripping KNOX, it's not like I'm gonna use Samsung Pay or anything.
Also, if none of the above is possible, what can I do to swap this in for a different phone/which one should I get? I got it from AT&T, it's been under 30 days.
If you guys can help, thanks.
You have only 14 days to return your phone to at&t. So you might be out of luck already. There is no way to revert you are stuck. If you really want s6 get a g920f or g920i unlocked version so you can get timely updates and modified software. You'll have to pay up front to get one though. Only downside is at&t disables VOLTE for the international variants even though they are perfectly capable. Don't ask me why. If you aren't attached to the s6 I would highly suggest you get a Nexus 6P or even a 5x. Software is everything on these phones which is why.
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will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
rtubbs85 said:
will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
danon.brown said:
same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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Those are from 2 years ago IVe had rooted phones since then.
What I'm saying is if they said that back then why was I able to get root on other phones?
Root <> unlocked bootloader....
That being said, no one knows if it will get root or not. It depends if a suitable exploit is discovered to do it. 5.1.1 plugs a few of the known exploits, so it won't happen the exact same way it did in the S6.
Only time will tell.
Also keep in mind that root can mean different things too... Permanent, temporary, root but with no system modification, etc... No one knows which we will get, if any.
keep in mind that most of the talented Devs have abandoned Samsung, so that might make it even worse
Doesn't the Note 5 have the same hardware as the S6/S6E? Seems like it should be able to be done like those phones but I don't know if that's true or not.
I'm thinking about getting this phone, but will hold off until proven root on AT&T.
I just saw this article, so maybe I'll stay with my HTC:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
The Verizon and AT&T models have a carrier specific mechanism, which is apart of the Samsung Knox Security Suite, Samsung Knox director of business development Ram Motipally detailed to iDigitalTimes at a recent briefing in New York prior to the Galaxy Note 5 and S6 Edge+ launch. “In most of the U.S. devices, if you root the device the device won’t even boot up; if it’s AT&T or Verizon,” he said.
I bought a Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge few months ago. Now I moved to T-Mobile. I am using the phone right now without any issues.
There is still Verizon crap on it that I cannot uninstall. Is it possible to install stock or preferably, T-Mobile firmware on this device?
I'll just keep it short and sweet. Practically speaking, no.
Better explanation please
The phones are identical except the firmware. Why would it not work? I would like to do the same so I can access better reception and wifi calling. There's literally nothing different Hardware wise between the diff carrier versions other than what each carrier unlocks or blocks. Can someone give a more detailed reason why it won't work?
This is a great question.... I'd like to know the same, BUT, for me, Tmobile charges too much for single service here in Colorado.
What about just bypass frp?
As far as I'm aware I believe the Note 5, based on the Exynos7420 uses a different modem chip in each carrier. Originally I thought the S6 Edge was still a universal World Phone. But even rooted, some people have still had problems actually migrating from Verizon to T-Mobile.
I've had a tester somehow manage to install a TMobile modem on an AT&T Note5, but it messed up the Device Root Key. Which I do believe is the "hardware baked" signature used to decrypt firmware.
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I bought a Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge few months ago. Now I moved to T-Mobile. I am using the phone right now without any issues.
There is still Verizon crap on it that I cannot uninstall. Is it possible to install stock or preferably, T-Mobile firmware on this device?
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Look at the instructions posted here to remove bloatware. I believe if you substitute the correct counterpart firmware the process is still doable. There is also the De-Bloater v3.90 app that should work as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75842235&postcount=110
I recently purchased 4 brand new sprint note 8's from Ebay (for a small company). In hindsight I think I should of opted for the unlocked version but I'm here now. My question is what would it take to unlock the phones and flash with unlocked software? I ask because I'm a little PO'ed that sprint takes away a few features native to Samsung (looking at you Hyia caller id). There's apps that can take care of all that, but that's besides the point.
I'm looking for pro's and cons to what that would do. Coming from a rooted S6 and having played with the note 8 I didn't see any reason to root until now. But I think if I root it locks me out of other features? Samsung Pay? And sprint won't fix if I make any insurance claim?
Is there any way to go through all that and then turn root back off? Again, coming from the S6 as my last bit of rooting experience (couldn't turn knox counter off, so Samsung pay never worked....).
Any suggestions?
tl;dr, should probably go with unlocked phones next time to avoid the bs
rob.mwpropane said:
should probably go with unlocked phones next time to avoid the bs
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Search function in the forum. Look for carrier switching. Are you using them for sprint?
If you go to unlocked XXA you will get the other features but loose wifi-calling and sprint calling plus.
You can download the new sprint zone form play store now so thats a non issue.
If you understand how to put together your own flash-able rom you could pull the stuff for sprint and add to xxa and get both parts but its not something ive seen floating around here.
Ultimately sprint has a paid version of Samsung feature for the caller id part, if thats the only thing you want there are a ton of other free alternative. (soft fix) Sprint isn't going to fix a personal issue you have with their device setup lol, they charge for premium caller id and Samsung/sprint wont change that part, most carriers charge for it as its "premium"
I have a optimized rom for the note 8 (sprint users) but you will be limited to 80% battery charge, spay and secure folder are broken. With the new safestrap recovery you can atleast un-root and re-root from the device to get around apps that scan for root and be able to use them, with my custom rom having edits in /system you will never achieve spay etc , this is reversible by just odin to stock software again and back to stock, the current root methods do not effect knox or warranty.
If i unlocked it can i use gsm sim form Bangladesh?
Hello,
What is the preferred Samsung Note 8 model for obtaining root if you are in the US? In my area, AT&T(GSM) and Verizon(CDMA) are the two main carriers. I would perfer to have a phone which is unlocked for both network types(GSM/CDMA). I'm not tied down in a contract so I plan on buy from Amazon so I can continue without being in contract. Thank You!
Questions:
A. Preferred Samsung Note 8 model for obtaining root in US?
B. Is root even worth the effort of the 'jumping through the hoops it takes to obtain it'?
C. Once you have root, will new updates from Android affect it or have the possibility of losing it?
Coming from a totally unlocked Note 4 back in February, I thought that I would really need root access on my Note 8. But with using Samsung themes to get the system color I wanted, then using Nova Launcher to get the icon look. And using notSABS for ad blocking. I can honestly say that with the Note 8, I do not need root access. Yes having full access of MY phone should be MY choice, but I'm ok with it.
My wife and I have the SM-N950U from Xfinity and we love them. For the price of their service you can't beat them. We just pay by the gig and we have never used more than 1 GB of data. So if we didn't get the phones from them and get insurance, we would only be paying $12/month for 2 lines.(up to 5 lines)
Sent from my SM-N950U using XDA Labs
If you want to root, there is a big drawback with snapdaragons, after rooting, your batt will only charge 80%, in any case snap or exynos, samsung pay will no longer work, and, after rooting, no OTA firmware updates will show for download
I would stay away from US carriers phones. get the international version instead.
Once you root, you lose the chance of using Samsung Pay and SecureFolder for the rest of the phone's life. Un-rooting won't get them to work.
It is up to you to decide. For me, I root because I need Adaway, Titanium Backup, TWRP. Yes, I love SecureFolder but I love the benefits of root capabilities more.
winol said:
If you want to root, there is a big drawback with snapdaragons, after rooting, your batt will only charge 80%, in any case snap or exynos, samsung pay will no longer work, and, after rooting, no OTA firmware updates will show for download
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I have read it's better to keep your battery charged between 20% to 80% for the best battery life, so would that be a good thing?
طوني تبولة said:
I would stay away from US carriers phones. get the international version instead.
Once you root, you lose the chance of using Samsung Pay and SecureFolder for the rest of the phone's life. Un-rooting won't get them to work.
It is up to you to decide. For me, I root because I need Adaway, Titanium Backup, TWRP. Yes, I love SecureFolder but I love the benefits of root capabilities more.
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I don't ever plan on using Samsung Pay, so no issue there, I'm unaware of SecureFolder. What model and what carrier do you have? CDMA or GSM? I have read that the exynos phones cell radio or tower reception doesn't work as well in the US. Have you noticed any issues with that or with WIFI? Any advice on getting the best deal on one?
I would recommend that you purchase the US Unlocked Variant, which is available in the US.
I used to have the U version on ATT. I changed to an unlocked dual SIM 950FD. It cost $600 on eBay instead of $900+ for the US variant. I notice ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE between the two. No data speed difference, nothing. Same software, same everything. And I update the rom regularly on sammobile. Plus I have the dual SIM option. So, same thing $300 cheaper.
Oh and lests not forget: no bloatware..
If this isn't the right forum please direct me to the right one
I go out of rooting my phone a while ago and went to go root my G6 to find out that it's not rootable. Moreover recently I found that Verison is blocking the bootloader on pretty much all of its phones. I looked at the Note 9 and I really like it but I want to be able to root it and everything. is there a way that I can get a note 9 and use it with full functionality (IDC about the Samsung pay and that stuff though, just the speeds and connectivity) in the US. i am willing to change carriers to Tmobile, but I have also heard something about the N960F not able to use band aggregation in the US. If i want to root and have a good phone will i have to go all the way back to the nexus 6p or are there other modern phones that can do this?
Rein_of_fire said:
If this isn't the right forum please direct me to the right one
I go out of rooting my phone a while ago and went to go root my G6 to find out that it's not rootable. Moreover recently I found that Verison is blocking the bootloader on pretty much all of its phones. I looked at the Note 9 and I really like it but I want to be able to root it and everything. is there a way that I can get a note 9 and use it with full functionality (IDC about the Samsung pay and that stuff though, just the speeds and connectivity) in the US. i am willing to change carriers to Tmobile, but I have also heard something about the N960F not able to use band aggregation in the US. If i want to root and have a good phone will i have to go all the way back to the nexus 6p or are there other modern phones that can do this?
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You can get the SM-N9600 and root that phone. Then you will be able to get wifi calling and 4g+ with it also being rooted. This version is th HK one. I have this version and so far everything is good and I like the purchase I made. You can find some on Swappa (which is where I bought mine for $715).
Do please though research on which phone you prefer and what root options are available for that phone.
Rein_of_fire said:
If this isn't the right forum please direct me to the right one
I go out of rooting my phone a while ago and went to go root my G6 to find out that it's not rootable. Moreover recently I found that Verison is blocking the bootloader on pretty much all of its phones. I looked at the Note 9 and I really like it but I want to be able to root it and everything. is there a way that I can get a note 9 and use it with full functionality (IDC about the Samsung pay and that stuff though, just the speeds and connectivity) in the US. i am willing to change carriers to Tmobile, but I have also heard something about the N960F not able to use band aggregation in the US. If i want to root and have a good phone will i have to go all the way back to the nexus 6p or are there other modern phones that can do this?
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We haven't been able to unlock bootloader on Samsung devices for a few years now.
I should say US Samsung devices. I meant to clarify that.