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Hallo,
I am sorry, to post it here, but I cannot post in the related forums below 10 posts.
So I had 4.1.5 and it was great. I flashed 4.2.3 now and it was great until after pretty much one day, when it becomes slow, had the same issues with 4.2.2 (becomes slow after a day until reboot or downgrade to 4.1.5) where I downgraded again, but it is not possible anymore without resetting the launcher3 due to some changes.
It will crash repeatedly.
Any help?
Kind regards
neox
I've been using CM based Mackay ROM for a long time now, updating to every new version as they have been released, and have not experienced anything like what you are describing.
Also, you should have really posted in the Mackay ROM thread...
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@neox456! I am not sure I understand your problem fully. I have been using the same ROM since it came out for Kit Kat but never had a problem such as yours.
Could it be the no. of apps you have in your phone ? Or maybe because you aren't using low mem option (which was a feature of Kit Kat)?
It'd be good if you could explain your issues a bit briefly.
neox456 said:
Hallo,
I am sorry, to post it here, but I cannot post in the related forums below 10 posts.
So I had 4.1.5 and it was great. I flashed 4.2.3 now and it was great until after pretty much one day, when it becomes slow, had the same issues with 4.2.2 (becomes slow after a day until reboot or downgrade to 4.1.5) where I downgraded again, but it is not possible anymore without resetting the launcher3 due to some changes.
It will crash repeatedly.
Any help?
Kind regards
neox
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Did you install CM10.2 (stable) or CM11 before Mackay 4.2.3? This increases your partition giving you better performance and is recommended for KK roms. Try again with 3 wipes plus Format System first, then the CM11, 3 wipes and format again then the Mackay Rom. If you get into trouble, go back to GB 2.3.6 with ODIN like you did when you first rooted your phone and back up from there. Hope it works for you.
The difference was between 4.1.5 and 4.2.2/3. But I played around a little and the main difference was, that KSM was on with the later ones and not with 4.1.5 so I am pretty sure that slowed my device down after a while.
I'll try 4.2.3 without KSM now and see if it won't slow down.
I cannot answer on the official Mackay-Thread until I reached 10 posts!
neither can I yet...
Naaah, it did not really help...
But I guess it is the KitKat slow downs... it is not as horrible as 4.3, but still far from well usable.
neox456 said:
Naaah, it did not really help...
But I guess it is the KitKat slow downs... it is not as horrible as 4.3, but still far from well usable.
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Very strange.. I went all the way back to GB 2.3.6 then CM 10.2 (or 11) then SlimKat and it works really well with no FC or lags. (well maybe say max 2 second delay opening Whatsapp but I can live with that. Plus they all seem to have a 1 or 2 second delay when a call comes in for the screen to register.
Well... I am not sure... Maybe it is too many apps. At least they are not constanlty crashing like in JB4.3.
What about waking up the phone for you? Do you have a 2 seconds delay there, too? Well I sometimes have a more like 10-15 seconds delay. I press the power button and nothing happens and after a while you notice the phone is ready, because the LEDs are glowing and funnily you can already unlock it, although the screen does not show anything yet...
Well and sometimes it is only a few seconds...
I have always used CM or Mackay-CM... not sure, whether the other ROM will make such a big difference...
I had lags with CM in ICS so I went to Liquid smooth by aways .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223729
I like that one, no problems opening apps or answering phone call. Pkus he uses semaphore and the Nova Launcher which has a nice look and feel. Pluis customisable.
Then after to SlimKat, (after increasing partition using the CM11) which works pretty good. I will flash the mackay rom or the omni this weekend to see how it behaves in comparison.
I am down to CM9 (still Mackay) now and happy with it. :angel:
Some features got lost, but I am happy, because in general it is way more useable.
Is there currently any ROM and/or Custom kernel, that doesn't suffer from the memory leak bug?
I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
I also would love to try for myself. Stock KitKat and stock lollipop both suffer from the bug. On lollipop I have much more free ram, but chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking.
Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
Thanks in advance for any insightful advice.
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I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
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Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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I've been reading "every other thread".
And yes, I seriously want an answer to that.
I never said, that I didn't want to unlock my bootloader, eventually I do want to unlock it. But according to your reply, I suppose you don't understand that. Nevermind.
Thanks, anyway.
Titan Prime will yield you the best results with memory, from my experience.
Besides that, all you can do is sit and wait for 5.1. And hope that it will fix the problem.
I've got a (german) XT1068, and I was on build RETDEALL 21.85-14 for the longest time (KK 4.4.4). The phone was sometimes close to unusable due to the memory issues: Almost every time I went back to my launcher (Nova) the widgets would reload (all two of them), every 5th time the whole launcher would have to be restarted. When listening to music, the player would often be killed when it's not the foreground app. This all was already with tuned settings and the like. Simply put, my Galaxy S2 was a much better phone, with better performance and multitasking (same amount of ram, but dual core only)...
I've updated to the 5.0.2 build that was (finally) released a few days ago (22.46-28). It's a world of difference. I would say the problems are either gone or at least they got the biggest of issues under control. So far I haven't had it running without a reboot for multiple days (installing xposed and associated modules tends to require reboots), but so far everything is looking perfectly fine. Widgets haven't reloaded even once, let alone the launcher. Multitasking works, even larger apps weren't killed (like reddit news, which tends to use quite a bit of ram after scrolling for a bit).
So I don't know whether it's fixed, but at the very least this is a fully-stock-option that works perfectly fine (for me), even though I'm rooted and use XPosed that is by no means necessary.
I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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4.4.4 didn't have a memory leak, just high minfree values I think.
Lollipop does have a memory leak (and thats mostly googles fault) and the memory management is very buggy when compared to kitkat. The memory leak doesn't show instantly, it shows after some time and you can just reboot the phone to "solve the problem".
If you want a really good rom for multitasking I recommend CM 11 or some rom based on it.
4.4.4 definitely has some serious issues on the MotoG, it was not just the min free values. I had tuned those (basically tried everything), but it made no real difference. So far, LP feels like it's a different phone.
I agree. I can't understand how people would go back to KitKat after trying lollipop. Chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking though. :\
Let's see if 5.1 fixes that.
BTW: does anyone get graphic glitches in Tapatalk and chrome? Sometimes whole areas of the screen turn glitchy, until I switch to another app or press the back key. (Glitchy= pixels in all colours, like an overheated GPU on a PC would produce.)
I'm getting really mixed reviews for the lollipop update lately. Some love it, some hate it, some haven't even gotten it. I'm just curious towards the majority of opinions for the new update. So, should we or should we not update?
For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
I tried it for short, but it was quite somewhat laggy and not as fast as I am now used to have on custom roms.
But I am interested what other users got to say
Lollipop and KitKat from LG both has terrible RAM management. I had to restart my phone every 48h to stop it from restarting my apps.
Besides that it's quite a good ROM. Very stable, bug free. Workes much faster than KitKat.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
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No, to me, it's faster than kitkat, but that might be because I flashed the kdz then reset the phone. I don't use CM because video recording doesn't work.
So after rooting my l90's I noticed my OTA updated one was at least 5 times slower than my offline updated ones. This is not an exaggeration, while installing an app, I was able to remove apps on my other phone, and install the same app, before the app finally installed on the OTA updated phone. That's just the start, menus are slower and there is tons of lag. I'm not sure exactly if it's the OTA that is the issue, but all of my l90s are at most a month old, and were purchased at the same time, so I doubt it's hardware. The firmware of the ota is identical to the offline updated, although I can't definitively determine if updating over the air is the issue because I only have one phone with the OTA. That being said I have also reflashed the same firmware with the offline method onto the ota, and it has made no changes.
I've been using the debloated 5.0.2 FW (pre-rooted 23.1.A.0.726 with Xposed) for months now with no issues, but one day the RAM started going crazy and has been for a month now. Every time I open an app, things in the background start restarting in a loop and multitasking is basically impossible. Restarting and clearing cache/dalvik-cache hasn't helped at all. I don't know if this is the Lollipop memory leak bug (I thought Sony had fixed this), but it's really strange that this came seemingly out of nowhere. I've attached some screenshots. Not really sure what to make of it, but memory state is in "critical" most of the time, and Google Play Services and Snapchat usage seems unusually high. Before, I had quite a few apps running in the background and the phone handled it like a champ; rarely any app refreshes, redraws, etc. Now it feels like i have 512MB of RAM again...
Anybody experiencing this? I'm thinking this could be coming from a rogue Xposed module or something. The problem is the worst if I'm using Chrome or Snapchat, but still occurs elsewhere. Any recommendations on where to find the cause?
I get exactly the same issues as you. No idea why that happens. After exiting an app and going back to Google now launcher it would've restarted so all the icons take awhile to load again and the app drawer too. This is quite annoying but a reboot fixes it. Sadly I might have to do this once a day or so, hence making the experience rather irritating.
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It's happening to me too. I'm hoping it's a 5.0.2 LP bug and will be resolved with 5.1.1's release sometime this month (fingers crossed!)
That said, I've tried nearly all the stock rom iterations on this board and Wajk's 23.2.A.1.62 build seems to be the most stable, even with Xposed installed. Version 1.1 and 1.3 of his Slim rom still had restarts (I never tried 1.2), but they actually restarted, whereas other stock roms wouldn't, and the apps that restarted remained closed until reopened manually, so I missed messages and emails all the time, and experienced launcher redraws often.
Currently, I'm on 1.4 of his rom and it seems less stable, but that could be because I had dirty flashed from 1.3, and previously dirty flashed from 1.1. Version 1.5 should be out soon, so if that doesn't improve it, I'm going to clean wipe and re-install.
So, what is the difference between custom roms and stock roms that causes the lag? I've noticed two things with my 6. I've tried Bliss, PureNexus, crDroid, and purely rooted stock. On the stock rom, after a short while, my 6 lags more and more to where the phone is unusable. It's very frustrating. But, when I'm on a custom rom, it's generally smooth and very fast with no lag at all, BUT, I do get random reboots and shutdowns and fc's. I don't get reboots, fc's or shutdowns on the stock rom. But I get horrible lag. Is it possible to get no lag with no reboots? Has anyone been able to make a stock rom with no lag? That would be ideal for me. I do use root for a few things, call recorder, and backup mostly. Though I don't even need the backup much anymore with google saving everything online now. I've never tried to build a rom of my own, so I don't know what the difference would be to make one like that.
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So, what is the difference between custom roms and stock roms that causes the lag? I've noticed two things with my 6. I've tried Bliss, PureNexus, crDroid, and purely rooted stock. On the stock rom, after a short while, my 6 lags more and more to where the phone is unusable. It's very frustrating. But, when I'm on a custom rom, it's generally smooth and very fast with no lag at all, BUT, I do get random reboots and shutdowns and fc's. I don't get reboots, fc's or shutdowns on the stock rom. But I get horrible lag. Is it possible to get no lag with no reboots? Has anyone been able to make a stock rom with no lag? That would be ideal for me. I do use root for a few things, call recorder, and backup mostly. Though I don't even need the backup much anymore with google saving everything online now. I've never tried to build a rom of my own, so I don't know what the difference would be to make one like that.
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My fiance is a writer and she records all of her interviews. She has an LG G4 (totally stock) She uses an app called Bold Beast for recording her calls. No root required. (we did need to fiddle with the multitude of settings to get good recording quality...)
As for the lag, I've had my device since 9/16 (bought used on Swappa). It came with the Beta for N installed. I've been using official N since it was released as an OTA. I only experience any noticeable lag in one situation: When my phone is very low on battery (<30) and I use HDR+, usability and reaction times takes a serious hit. I'm a moderate power user, otherwise, and I haven't experienced anything else that I would classify as lag.
That said, I wonder if there was some serious batch quality differences when this phone was being manufactured as I've seen other complaints of lagging.
Good luck, and sorry that I could only provide a contrary anecdotal response.