Extremely High RAM Usage 5.1 - Moto X Q&A

Anybody know how to reduce the RAM usage? My phone consistently uses about 750-800MB for System and 750-800MB for Apps. I’m usually left with about 300-400 Free which causes my phone to stutter really bad when opening a new app sometimes or when audio is playing and I get a text. It gets really bad whenever my apps start downloading updates. It was never this bad on kitkat and I have Greenify installed to try and help but it doesn’t really help. Facebook never seems to greenify either for some reason. Some help would be appreciated!

This is why I removed the main Facebook app and installed Facebook Lite instead. Well, suffice to say I don't Facebook that much so Lite is good enough for me. For the problem you are facing, did you factory reset from recovery after the L upgrade? Its highly recommended and it has helped many with similar issues. Also if the issues are too severe its recommended not to let your Google account do a settings restore after a FDR i.e. turn of Backup and Restore from settings before initiating the FDR effectively deleting all stored settings on Google servers which can also be done from Google Dashboard alternatively. If you have too many apps installed like me you could also use a file explorer app like ES to back up their apks, just don't backup any settings.

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[Q] app manager for CM7?

I'm running CM7 and I'm happy with how it performs compared to stock rom. I see improvement in battery and memory usage. So that's good.
However, some apps like facebook, maps, tango etc still appear to become active in the background.
Is there an application which will easily let me manage rights for every app I have on the device? I dont want to freeze them, just change their permissions so they never do anything unless I intentionally start an app.
When I was on stock ROM i tried an app killer with auto kill. So i'd kill apps that were displayed. Check back a few minutes later and everything was back running again..
So to sum up..a good app manager that works nicely with CM7?
Edit: i found something called privacy blocker but I think that wont let me prevent apps from running by themselves....
Edit-2: Nevermind, its not going to work I think...reading this made me realise that some apps me be terminated at start-up, but preventing from booting at a later point is near impossible. Too bad. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14889
Just ignore them, Android knows how to manage it's RAM effectively.
If you won´t use some apps, use TitaniumBackup (from Market) and freeze apps you are never using.

[Q] Non-Google Apps Crashing on Nexus 6 AOSP-Based ROMs

As the title suggest my Nexus 6 is having apps constantly crashing that aren't stock. It doesn't matter if the app was installed from the play store or is a copy taken with Titaniumbackup from the stock ROM. Currently I am running Dirty Unicorn 9.3 and it seems to app crash the least amount of times. No one else has mentioned anything like this so I figure my issue is pretty rare.
Phone info:
Stock base is LMY47I
BL: 71.08
Baseband: 2.95
Recovery is TWRP ver 2.8.6
I always clean flash everything, factory, then wipe (system, data, cache and dalvik (though I do believe this doesn't matter anymore)). The apps that I use that crash in AOSP but not stock are Relay Pro, Facebook and Engadget. Spotify doesn't seem to ever crash even though it is nearly always on. Some apps work well but these apps start having issues after about 2 minutes in them. When the apps "crash" they most often don't even say they crash, it just goes back to the home screen. Sometimes it will say such and such has stopped working.
Anybody have any ideas. I am losing my mind!?
I'm having this issue too. Facebook, Cnn, Engadget, japlonick, crash all the time. I'm on Chroma rom
facebook is one of the top 5 worst apps ever written and is a huge resource hog. uninstalling it would probably cause you to have better battery life and will leave your phone running better. now with titanium backup, restoring apps is fine, reatoring data as well could cause issues on other roms. never ever restore system apps.
simms22 said:
Facebook is one of the top 5 worst apps ever written and is a huge resource hog. uninstalling it would probably cause you to have better battery life and will leave your phone running better. now with titanium backup, restoring apps is fine, restoring data as well could cause issues on other ROMs. never ever restore system apps.
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As much as I hate Facebook's data (in terms of how large it is) I still use it daily, and the web app is not anywhere near good enough. Titanium never has system apps restored. I clean flash everything and wouldn't do anything to compromise ROM stability.
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As much as I hate Facebook's data (in terms of how large it is) I still use it daily, and the web app is not anywhere near good enough. Titanium never has system apps restored. I clean flash everything and wouldn't do anything to compromise ROM stability.
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i got rid of the facebook app about 4 years sgo, when i noticed it averaging about 8%-15% battery use, when i didnt open or use in two months. one day it started using 22% battery and i just got rid of it. their web app i dont use, since it sucks. but i do use their full site, on my aosp browser, and am happy with it that way
mean_bean279 said:
As the title suggest my Nexus 6 is having apps constantly crashing that aren't stock. It doesn't matter if the app was installed from the play store or is a copy taken with Titaniumbackup from the stock ROM. Currently I am running Dirty Unicorn 9.3 and it seems to app crash the least amount of times. No one else has mentioned anything like this so I figure my issue is pretty rare.
Phone info:
Stock base is LMY47I
BL: 71.08
Baseband: 2.95
Recovery is TWRP ver 2.8.6
I always clean flash everything, factory, then wipe (system, data, cache and dalvik (though I do believe this doesn't matter anymore)). The apps that I use that crash in AOSP but not stock are Relay Pro, Facebook and Engadget. Spotify doesn't seem to ever crash even though it is nearly always on. Some apps work well but these apps start having issues after about 2 minutes in them. When the apps "crash" they most often don't even say they crash, it just goes back to the home screen. Sometimes it will say such and such has stopped working.
Anybody have any ideas. I am losing my mind!?
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Okay so its not just me. I thought maybe it was the kernel i was on. That doesnt seem to be it either. Right now im running a Temasek cm12.1 rom with zen (tried a few others but like this one). My biggest problem is web browsers. Firefox, Nextbrowser Dolphin UCbrowser they all do the same thing. Chrome hardly ever crashes but the aosp browser does. I dont get whats happening. I even looked at some logs and just saw that the apps had indeed crashed in the log but nothing indicating why. Anyone with some insight?

Multitasking & app lag/freezing...

Having a problem in which app or task reappears in the foreground after pressing the Home button. Also, if I tap the recent apps button, the list of apps appears and then just as quickly brings the most recent app into the foreground automatically again. It happens so quickly that the "x" for closing the apps in the list doesn't even have a chance to appear or let me swipe them away.
Something else that seems to happen along with this problem is that parts of any given app start freezing (i.e. unresponsive links, menu options, etc) while other parts of the app can be tapped/pressed. For example, if I'm in the android settings menu, I may not be able to select one option in a list but I can select the option right above it. This appears to be totally random. If I back out of that menu and/or clear the app from the app list, I can go back and select that same menu option just fine.
This seems to only have started after I added a second user on the phone. I guess it could be that the phone doesn't have enough memory to handle both users, but why would ANDROID then build that feature into it's phone OS?
Fixes I've tried so far (based on extensive research on forums and web search):
Restarting the phone - works temporarily but the issue(s) returns within minutes.
Clearing the phone's cache - no difference
Clearing app cache for each app - no difference
Uninstalling unneeded apps - no difference
Disabling bloatware - no difference
Clearing Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Turning off Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Factory reset, reinstalled from backup - temporary fix, problem eventually returned
Factory reset, setup both users from scratch - temporary fix, problem eventually returned.
I have a Moto X xt1097, Android 5.1 stock, non-rooted
Any help or responses appreciated!
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Having a problem in which app or task reappears in the foreground after pressing the Home button. Also, if I tap the recent apps button, the list of apps appears and then just as quickly brings the most recent app into the foreground automatically again. It happens so quickly that the "x" for closing the apps in the list doesn't even have a chance to appear or let me swipe them away.
Something else that seems to happen along with this problem is that parts of any given app start freezing (i.e. unresponsive links, menu options, etc) while other parts of the app can be tapped/pressed. For example, if I'm in the android settings menu, I may not be able to select one option in a list but I can select the option right above it. This appears to be totally random. If I back out of that menu and/or clear the app from the app list, I can go back and select that same menu option just fine.
This seems to only have started after I added a second user on the phone. I guess it could be that the phone doesn't have enough memory to handle both users, but why would ANDROID then build that feature into it's phone OS?
Fixes I've tried so far (based on extensive research on forums and web search):
Restarting the phone - works temporarily but the issue(s) returns within minutes.
Clearing the phone's cache - no difference
Clearing app cache for each app - no difference
Uninstalling unneeded apps - no difference
Disabling bloatware - no difference
Clearing Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Turning off Google now and search - temporary fix, problem returned soon
Factory reset, reinstalled from backup - temporary fix, problem eventually returned
Factory reset, setup both users from scratch - temporary fix, problem eventually returned.
I have a Moto X xt1097, Android 5.1 stock, non-rooted
Any help or responses appreciated!
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The answer is simple, it is caused by your second user.
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AGISCI said:
The answer is simple, it is caused by your second user.
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Well, I considered that as PART of the issue, sure. But isn't Android 5.1 supposed to support multiple users? If so, what about having a second user is causing the issue?
More info. I set up the second user for my business, using a separate Gmail account; minimal apps under that user (mostly Google's business products). I kept getting the two accounts mixed up when both were logged in under the same user.
dgiberga said:
Well, I considered that as PART of the issue, sure. But isn't Android 5.1 supposed to support multiple users? If so, what about having a second user is causing the issue?
More info. I set up the second user for my business, using a separate Gmail account; minimal apps under that user (mostly Google's business products). I kept getting the two accounts mixed up when both were logged in under the same user.
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It does "support" it. But you must remember that everything is shared, memory, storage, processor, and network, so the phone is a limit. The better the phone, the better it works.
Even when you are not using the other account it is using all of those things in the background, it checks for emails, google play updates, and if you installed apps those apps run in the background even while you are on the other user.
It is an Android feature yes, but for example our phone only has 2GB of memory which most likely ran out from so much usage.
Personally I have 2 phones, one for business and my personal phone.
I don't know if this is true, but maybe android 6.0 would get better performance thanks to Doze. Maybe the other user account gets put into Doze mode to save resources. Just a thought, but I am only guessing.
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AGISCI said:
It does "support" it. But you must remember that everything is shared, memory, storage, processor, and network, so the phone is a limit. The better the phone, the better it works.
Even when you are not using the other account it is using all of those things in the background, it checks for emails, google play updates, and if you installed apps those apps run in the background even while you are on the other user.
It is an Android feature yes, but for example our phone only has 2GB of memory which most likely ran out from so much usage.
Personally I have 2 phones, one for business and my personal phone.
I don't know if this is true, but maybe android 6.0 would get better performance thanks to Doze. Maybe the other user account gets put into Doze mode to save resources. Just a thought, but I am only guessing.
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OK, I was afraid of that. It makes sense though.
I also noticed that the problem only occurs in the second user profile but not my original user profile; I'm guessing that this is because the Android OS gives the original user priority access to resources at any given moment. Or maybe the first user profile is more resource intensive. Just a guess really.
Well, I don't have money for a second phone right now. I'll have to figure out another way to keep those accounts more easily separated.
Thank you again for your help AGISCI!
Rather than running two user accounts you can run 2 Google accounts as a single user. Hence, all your Google business apps work is saved under your business Gmail account. I've been using it this way for years with little effect on phone resources.
kboya said:
Rather than running two user accounts you can run 2 Google accounts as a single user. Hence, all your Google business apps work is saved under your business Gmail account. I've been using it this way for years with little effect on phone resources.
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Thanks kboya. That's actually how I started out, but it started getting tricky keeping accounts straight (i.e. chrome would keep defaulting to my personal account instead of my business account when I was signing up for different services, etc.). So, I thought the 2nd user idea would solve it nicely; still would if I could get hardware to support it.
Fair play. IMO multiple users was meant for tablets (less sensor and signal stress) and those with kids who only run games. It'll do what you want, but only at a pinch, a 6P might manage it better.

Device getting Slow(Moto G 2nd gen) non-rooted

I have had my Moto G2 for more than a year now. But with recent Android 6 update some things improved but phone started getting slower and lagging. I have tried factory reset but still has issues. Maybe it uses too much RAM.
Please give some suggestions.
Thank you
RjSingh390 said:
I have had my Moto G2 for more than a year now. But with recent Android 6 update some things improved but phone started getting slower and lagging. I have tried factory reset but still has issues. Maybe it uses too much RAM.
Please give some suggestions.
Thank you
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Did you find any solutions
Use Greenify App ........its help u..
Stock 6.0 is very buggy, flash los13
This is what I strongly recommend doing. I tried everything that could be tried without rooting, as I think unlocking the bootloader and using customized software doesn't give you the reliability of the Moto apps, and it doesn't provide an acceptable level of security. If you have an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery your passcode is useless as it can be bypassed in minutes. You don't want that.
* The #1 culprit is accessibility services. Even if one single thing is enabled in accessibility, Android is going to slow down hard. Android's accessibility settings allow apps to gain special permission, and stuff like that makes it possible for Braille back or any medical device to be able to get deeply tied into the OS. When an App starts an accessibility service, it gains special services and it becomes tangled to the OS so deeply that Android will start logging every little thing you do. That's great if you have special needs and you need something like that to use your phone, but if it's just some cool App, it's really not worth it.
Head over to settings, accessibility and make sure everything is toggled off. On top, you'll see a list of Apps. Get inside all of these sections and turn the toggles off.
* Cut down on Apps. The more you install, the worse it gets. Very simple. Strive to install Apps that are small in size and that don't use much RAM. You can see what's running in the background in developer settings (Google how to enable those) > running services. If you see any App running that shouldn't be and it's not essential, it must go. Anything you haven't used in the past 60 days must go. Whenever you find you have an App you never open, even if it's super small, just get it out of the system. Not only is it good for your phone, but it's also good for your own sanity and balance! Do some research. You'll find that the excellent suite of Google's preloaded Apps is already enough for pretty much everything. Many of the features are pretty much hidden or not advertised, but they're there. Your phone was designed to be usable from the ground - up, only install apps for things that you can't do natively i.e. chatting using WhatsApp, social media, Spotify, an RSS reader, Google Keep, nutrition tracking apps, Uber/Lyft and so on and so forth.
* See which of your Apps have web versions. Uninstall the App, and create a shortcut for the web version in Google Chrome.
* Free up storage. Strive to keep as much free storage as possible. Get a file explorer that's not ES and delete folders from apps you no longer use. Dig through WhatsApp > Databases and delete all the outdated ones. Get rid of all the unwanted, old photos, videos and voice notes left behind by messaging clients. Go through that mess your Downloads folder it and simply get rid of things you no longer need. Get rid of your screenshots too. Save the important ones in another album.
* Reboot on a regular basis. I'd say, turn your phone off and back on every 2 - 3 days.
* Use Google Photos's "Free up storage" to get rid of local copies of pics and videos that already safe and sound on your Google Photos account.
* Don't use Greenify in this day and age, especially if you're not rooted. It uses accessibility and, as you might expect by now, right, it's counter - productive. Your phone already does a good job at freezing Apps you don't use after a long period of time starting Android 6.0
* If an App keeps running in the background, consuming too much RAM and misbehaving, force close it. Get it from the App drawer, drag it to "App Info" and go "Force Close" on it. Android will get the hint and it won't let it start back again unless you so choose.
* Wipe the cache partition. It does not require root and there is a very nice guide on the instruction manual online. It doesn't delete any personal data and it works wonders.
* To wipe cache, head on over to settings > storage > internal storage > Cached data. Tap it and tap OK.
* Chrome caches a lot. Get into its app info, then storage, then clean data. Tap the first button: Chrome will delete cache from websites it deems unimportant, so you'll still have all the cache, cookies, history and login info from your favourite websites.
* If you have any App that promises to make your phone faster or free up storage or prolong the endurance of your battery such as Clean Master, DU Battery Booster, HTC Boost + etc etc get rid of that too. They're counter - productive and overall bad. I could sit there for hours giving you reasons why they are useless. The same goes to antivirus software.
* If you use Facebook, either uninstall it and use it on Google Chrome (it pushes notifications too!) or switch to Facebook Lite or Swipe. Also delete Messenger, as the web version and the external clients deal with that too. Again, if you prefer, use Messenger Lite instead. Or just don't use it on your phone at all and gain a lot of free time.
* Consider giving up on Snapchat as long as you have this phone. It's just too much. I got rid of it and I'll hop back on on my next device!
* If you use any cloud service other than Drive, buy Solid Explorer, add the cloud service and delete its proprietary App. Solid will be more than enough to run it.
* You don't have to keep Motorola and Google apps you don't need, such as Google Plus, the almost dead Hangouts or the discontinued Assist. Simply drag and drop them to "App Info", and then "Disable" them. Actually, do it. These apps are super demanding in terms of storage and stuff. As soon as you turn your phone on they don't make an impact on your storage, but as soon as they get updated the original App gets frozen and a duplicate gets installed in the user memory. That is, YOUR storage. Disabling Apps will get rid of the double copy and freeze the one that's in the system partition, storage you can't use anyway. Say: Google Play Books keeps running and it uses 200+MB, but you're a Kindle user like me and you couldn't care less about Google's own objectively inferior e-reading competing service. Simply disable Play Books and boom, your phone's a little faster and you've claimed yourself well over 200MB!
* The best security is common sense. Only install apps from the Play Store and disable unknown sources in security. Really, it has everything you need and more.
* Nova Launcher. The preinstalled launcher is great and lightweight enough, but now that it's on the way out I notice it slowing down and randomly being unreliable and not showing anything on it. Nova is graphically the exact same, except it's a lot faster and more optimized. Caveat: you'll need to open the Google App to access the Now feed.
* Delete all the data out of Play Music and set it to "Downloaded only" to prevent it from getting so huge again. It apparently doesn't always save to the SD card, and we can't do that on an 8GB phone.
* Disable the HP Printing service if you don't have an HP Printer.

Question How factory reset without losing too much data?

Hi all,
My phone is quite slow nowadays and has an annoying 5 second freeze every time I wake it up.
As ColorIS 13 looks to be far away in Europe I really need to factory reset.
What's the best way to do this without losing everything in my System Clone?
And is there a tool (PC?) for Oppo phones to restore apps WITH data/settings included?
Android loads can last for years, remain fast and stable if you don't do firmware upgrades/updates. Otherwise factory reset after an upgrade. Android loads can be exceptionally long lived if not screw up by the former or buggy 3rd party apps.
Try in safe mode to see if a 3rd party app(s) are the cause rather than the current core load settings.
Importing app settings even if possible invites the possibility of importing the current existing problems with it. Do a clean load if you go to the trouble of a factory reset. You should already have all critical data backed up redundantly and in order. Including backup exports for all apps that allow it especially Poweramp if you use it.
Make installable copies of all vetted apps for backup and reloads. No Playstore needed; reloads go much faster and smoother.
Use copy/paste file transfers backup and restores rather than automated transfer apps... they can cause data lose if you depend on them 100%.
Another option that's not as drastic is to reset all app settings to their default settings. It may or may not get it. It's always best to find to root cause of an issue if at all possible to prevent it from potentially reoccurring. Only a rootkit, dugged in malware or a boot loop demand a factory reset.
Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Try temporarily disabling Nova launcher and see if that helps. Try using the native launcher instead. Target all apps that run at boot up. Launchers are some of the few apps that can boot loop an Android.
Any signs of system instability should be taken seriously as they are the only warning you may get before a boot loop.
After 2 back to bach boot loops and full reloads in 3 days I got very organized and proficient at it That was over 2.5 years ago, that's how long this load has been running on this heavily used N10+. Still running on Pie.
How can i check which apps run at boot up?
@latino147 Swift Backup is pretty good at backing everything up, and with root can backup app data. Problem is, to attain root, you'll have to factory reset, which will wipe your data, and there's no way around that.
Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
latino147 said:
Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
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Sd Maid Pro can at least on Android 9 and 10.
It clips the app caches to 20kb I think it is. If you try to go to zero it will hang on the running apps. It does a nice clean up job on stock Androids and hasn't caused any critical data lose. Can't say the same about CCleaner

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