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ok so my problem is that i have the original mytouch without the 3.5mm jack but i have an adapter that lets me use them which has a mic and button for play/pause
i want to know if there is any way to get something like skullcandy fmj(not those but just those as an example) to be able to to play/pause while connected to this
what i currently have the mic on the headset works but the play/pause button doesn't. the button on the adapter works only
is there anyway around this or am i stuck with the adapter?
sry if this has been asked
Just Curious, What adapter are you using?
better go and spent your money for bluetooth headphones... Adapter's have low durability ... and headphones have problems with jack/cables
i bought a brand new nokia bh-503 and im 100% satisfied
korzenio said:
better go and spent your money for bluetooth headphones... Adapter's have low durability ... and headphones have problems with jack/cables
i bought a brand new nokia bh-503 and im 100% satisfied
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This would be good for general listening. I don't think this is very good for running with. Also, many inexpensive headphones (3.5mm) have very good dynamic range and noise cancellation for low cost. I have not found a good sports bluetooth headphone yet. Secondly, the battery life of bluetooth has to be considered, what will you do when your battery is low?
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What will you do when your battery is low?
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Charge it!
I am looking for an adaptor/buetooth headphones with remote and a display. Any suggestions?
where can I buy one of these?
Hi I've used a AKG 450 headset for a long time. The sound of it was very good if I used sony's w600 Bluetooth. If I connected it to the phone the sound wasnt to much to brag about. But now I've bought a sennheiser HD25-II-2 and a Fiio E11 but the sound through the Sony just sucks. But when I connect it directly too the phone, it sound, well, bloody f***ing good! So the situation has turned 360°. So what's wrong here? It got a great DA-converter but the phone's amp cant handle any resistance?
Amplifier, not a DA converter ;-)
I'm satisfied with sound, nothing spectacular but ok. It depends on what kind of headphones you have, higher impendance means higher load on headphone amp. Some like that, some not...
But, review on GSM arena said something about almost exceptional sound when connected to external amp so check it out
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No, DA -converter. It must be really good compared to its amp. The akg is a perfect 32 ohms resistance, but still it sounded very bad indeed. But with the Fiio E11 amp it sounds so good that it just (almost) doesnt make sense
I seem to remember that the highend senheisers, needs power to play well. I always go for low resistance headphones, since i only drive them with my phone amp. Sound was good with my old Sennheiser cx300 and realy good with my Sunrise Xcape Impressive edition.
That was why I bought the amp. But I had no idea that this sound was waiting to be release from the x2! All the reviews points at the stereo crossover.
I wasn't aware about theese portable amps, i might be interested if i would gain anything with my easy driven inears. I haven't taken any concern about the crossover, i don't notice it. But I guess it would still be pressent with the amp.
I've just gone through the review from gms arena and the crossover is only with headset. That confirms what I experience with an amp. Believe me, it sounds really good!
Ok normaly the Xcapes don't need an amp. But that's with ipods and sansa clip's etc. Do you think the amp in the optimus 2 x is a lot less powerfull than mp3 players normaly is. Then i should consider getting an amp maybe the Fiio e5 ?
I havent heard the E5. Its dirt cheap and I bet it sounds like it. The E11 was about 36$ from mp4 nation when I ordred it ....
Edit: from mp4 nation: )
Ok just noticed the e6. An upgrade of e5. The sound quality is said to be good. But not on par wit e11
Just one way to find out.
i find it just a meh. the bass is flat.
The bass of E11 is very tight and punchy. Guess its the way to go then.
I was using some hi-fi earphones on this phone and was getting enough power from the phone. I have DSPManager equalizer installed and I nearly had to have the volume bar full just to get decent volume. Kind of sucks, but I can't complain too much for how good the price was. Will any developers be working on this chipset?
i think chinese phone could be great and could be compare with this incredible phone
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I was using some hi-fi earphones on this phone and was getting enough power from the phone. I have DSPManager equalizer installed and I nearly had to have the volume bar full just to get decent volume. Kind of sucks, but I can't complain too much for how good the price was. Will any developers be working on this chipset?
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Which hi-fi earphones you are using?
With your case, I suggest you buy a headphone amp like Fiio E5 to deal with your high impedence headphones.
richteralan said:
Which hi-fi earphones you are using?
With your case, I suggest you buy a headphone amp like Fiio E5 to deal with your high impedence headphones.
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How good are the Fiio E5's? I have been looking for something to give my 8323's a little something extra and does it work with an inline mic?
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How good are the Fiio E5's? I have been looking for something to give my 8323's a little something extra and does it work with an inline mic?
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It's just a headphone amp. I haven't tried with an mic so I don't know. Don't expect too much from its price point.
But for 99% people E5 will work great. I'm using E5 with my laptop and Grado headphone.
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It's just a headphone amp. I haven't tried with an mic so I don't know. Don't expect too much from its price point.
But for 99% people E5 will work great. I'm using E5 with my laptop and Grado headphone.
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Not expecting too much, just a little extra "oomph" in power to where I don't have to have the volume up to 100% and it still sound low.
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Not expecting too much, just a little extra "oomph" in power to where I don't have to have the volume up to 100% and it still sound low.
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E5 can definitely do that.
I just tried connecting my Grado to N4 without the amp. And the volume is perfect for me.
Also tried connect the phone to E5 and does amplify a bit, not a lot though.
There's also an E6 for a few bucks more. The power output spec:
E5:
Output Power: 100mW (32ohms Load) 18mW (300ohms Load)
E6:
Output Power: 150mW (16Ohm), 16mW (300Ohm)
Fiio has a whole line of portable headphone amps. Check them out on Amazon.com
Thanks, I kinda like the look of the E6 more, it's less "iPod shuffle"
The E6 is a good little amp but it will only drive headphones/earphones volume-wise. If you want something that will actually make them sound better, you'll have to step it up to an E7 or an E11. I have an E17 and it's great. The bonus with the E7 and E17 is that you can plug it into your computer via USB and use it as a DAC as well as an amp without installing any drivers.
An amp will not make the source sound better. It takes the existing signal and amplifies it. If it is a poorly designed amplifier, it may even add distortion and make the signal worse. You may hear an improvement if the amplifier on the SOC can not adequately power your headphones (likely due to either high impedance or low sensitivity, or both) and you drive it into distortion. So, if this is the case then you may hear an improvement. Given some of the lack luster results from the GSMArena testing, it may be more than just the amplifier though.
Some phones with USB OTG can use mobile USB DACs, which would likely improve SQ considering the state of sound quality on mobile SOCs. They also tend to have decent quality amplifiers as well. I'm not sure we can do this with the Nexus 4 yet, but it is possible on the GS3 and I'd suspect it's only a matter of time before we get it here as well.
If you are having volume issues its almost certainly because your headphones are low impedance. Lower than the inbuilt amplifier can supply. You can easily verify by plugging in another set of crappy earphones.
As was suggested, amp is your solution or you can use one of the phones that have a more powerful amplifier. I guess some of the HTC ones may have that though I have never used them.
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An amp will not make the source sound better. It takes the existing signal and amplifies it. If it is a poorly designed amplifier, it may even add distortion and make the signal worse. You may hear an improvement if the amplifier on the SOC can not adequately power your headphones (likely due to either high impedance or low sensitivity, or both) and you drive it into distortion. So, if this is the case then you may hear an improvement. Given some of the lack luster results from the GSMArena testing, it may be more than just the amplifier though.
Some phones with USB OTG can use mobile USB DACs, which would likely improve SQ considering the state of sound quality on mobile SOCs. They also tend to have decent quality amplifiers as well. I'm not sure we can do this with the Nexus 4 yet, but it is possible on the GS3 and I'd suspect it's only a matter of time before we get it here as well.
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Most USB DACs under $100 are cheaply made anyway. So there's no point to further drain your phone battery with a very minimal improvement over sound quality.
If you are really into it, use local FLAC and a small headphone amp. The best balance between mobility and audio.
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You can easily verify by plugging in another set of crappy earphones.
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The DAC in the nexus 4 drives high end IEMs easily, using hi end hifi equipment on phones and expecting it to work as Intended is bad logic
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I found the DAC in the US SGS3 to be quite adequate for a mobile chipset, and seeing as the Nexus 4 uses the same one, I see no reason to think any differently. However, I do think the SGS3 has a more powerful amp in it. If your headphones are anywhere from 50 to 300ohm impedance, you will need an amp to get adequate volume (and sound quality) out of them. Obviously a good amp cannot make up for a poor source, but if your headphones are suffering from low power, an amp will help.
My Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros are 16ohm and I still have to turn my Nexus 4 up to ~75% volume to get them at a good listening volume. They sound great though. Obviously they sound better out of my Schiit Lyr, but my HD650s benefit more from the amount of power that bad boy puts out. I actually have to run my COPs through my E17 because the Lyr is so powerful (with a high output impedance) that it causes a low hissing on the COPs no matter the volume.
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I was using some hi-fi earphones on this phone and was getting enough power from the phone. I have DSPManager equalizer installed and I nearly had to have the volume bar full just to get decent volume. Kind of sucks, but I can't complain too much for how good the price was. Will any developers be working on this chipset?
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What hi-fi earphones are you using?
See the supercurio link on 11-23 in this thread.
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See the supercurio link on 11-23 in this thread.
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I am never a fan of RighMark Audio Analyzer from when it's written...long time ago.
But people like to compare numbers and RMAA shows some pseudo relationship between numbers and apparent audio quality.
I miss the days when you actually need to LISTEN TO THE ACTUAL DEVICE instead of staring at some numbers.
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The DAC in the nexus 4 drives high end IEMs easily, using hi end hifi equipment on phones and expecting it to work as Intended is bad logic
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I don't really want to get into a discussion on what kind of differences can be heard with what kind of headphones when connected to a phone.
High-end is a very general term and doesn't really mean anything to me. If the built-in amp cannot supply enough current to the low impedance headphones, voltage (and volume) will drop. Since the OP was complaining about volume, using an external amplifier is his solution, or otherwise getting a phone that has a better built in amp. He can easily verify if the volume drop is caused by impedance by plugging in a high impedance headset and seeing if the volume reaches his desired level.
richteralan said:
I am never a fan of RighMark Audio Analyzer from when it's written...long time ago.
But people like to compare numbers and RMAA shows some pseudo relationship between numbers and apparent audio quality.
I miss the days when you actually need to LISTEN TO THE ACTUAL DEVICE instead of staring at some numbers.
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The frequency response chart pretty much exactly described my first impression when I listened to mine.
Another thing curious is that the stats are quite different from those of the other Qualcom SoC phones (some better, some worse -- including compared to new LG with identical hardware.) I would have thought it to be near identical; most of the previous ones are in a very tight range. Perhaps the difference is due to different parties testing (Supercurio/Anandtech vs. GSMarena)?
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The frequency response chart pretty much exactly described my first impression when I listened to mine.
Another thing curious is that the stats are quite different from those of the other Qualcom SoC phones (some better, some worse -- including compared to new LG with identical hardware.) I would have thought it to be near identical; most of the previous ones are in a very tight range. Perhaps the difference is due to different parties testing (Supercurio/Anandtech vs. GSMarena)?
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im not sure how they test but the N4 gives some odd results, it changes alot based on the volume you set it to i believe they mention it in the anandtech review from memory, but it seems to click into different 'modes' at different volumes its kinda weird and probably software related.
wait and see what kernel devs cook up maybe.
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
Is there a safety volume limiter on?
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Robertdotnet said:
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
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Hello, I don't use high quality/impedance headphones with my P20 Pro but watch this review from about 15min 15secs in. I've not verified this but hope it helps you!
https://youtu.be/nD3j00wzcao?t=15m16s
I checked with Bose QC35 and the sound is 30% louder via Bluetooth than the jack lead....... How can this be
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Is there a safety volume limiter on?
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Nope... I have checked and there's nothing like that.
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Hello, I don't use high quality/impedance headphones with my P20 Pro but watch this review from about 15min 15secs in. I've not verified this but hope it helps you!
Thank you very much ! I think I am actually going to buy a new adapter in the near future. :highfive:
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Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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Thank you for the reply! I will consider your advice.
gavinfabl said:
Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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Link
Here you go https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter
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Here you go https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter
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Thanks for the link. I found it a few hours ago, but I can't place the command, because my country is not covered by the official Google store, so I'm going to buy it from eBay
This worked a treat:
Belkertech Nylon Braided Type C to 3.5mm Audio Microphone Female
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I checked with Bose QC35 and the sound is 30% louder via Bluetooth than the jack lead....... How can this be
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Because in wired mode the headphones are driven by the phone's amp and in Bluetooth they are driven by their own internal amp. Its why you can use wired mode even when the headphone battery is depleted.
How about any advice buying replacement earphones instead of the adapter? I'd rather just have one external thing to not lose. Are there any USB-C earphones that will do the same job as the replacement USB-C to 3.5mm for regular earphones?
Robertdotnet said:
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
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I find it as loud as my S8 plus or Pixel 2 through headphones, but BT is where it's at for volume.
fingerbob said:
How about any advice buying replacement earphones instead of the adapter? I'd rather just have one external thing to not lose. Are there any USB-C earphones that will do the same job as the replacement USB-C to 3.5mm for regular earphones?
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I don't think I need head/earphones. I have 2 pairs of earphones (Samsung and Sennheiser), a pair of HyperX Cloud Stinger II, and studio headsets from Focusrite. I have tried all of them. And they are not the problem.
I've had many Huawei phones and 3,5mm volume has always been too low
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/guide-boost-headphones-volume-t3803824
If you have unlocked bootloader..
gavinfabl said:
Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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In what way are these better than the HTC adapters?
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Thanks for the link. I found it a few hours ago, but I can't place the command, because my country is not covered by the official Google store, so I'm going to buy it from eBay
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I use the HTC dongle linked in the video above. It makes a noticeable difference. Even my cheap £15 earphones are much louder using it over the Huawei dongle.
It won't blow you away, so be realistic but it is DEFINITELY a noticeable improvement and worth the investment if you listen to music.
In fact, even my larger headphones were louder but I think you need a dac/amp to really enjoy louder volumes on large headphones. It's the cheap earphones that I found gave the loudest sound.
I want to buy new earphones within 5000rs range.Kindly suggest me some good earphones.will the Google type c earphones work on OnePlus 5t.thanks
I am using AWEI X650BL Bluetooth dual driver earphones for about 6 months now.
I am very satisfied with the quality and battery life.
I'm using the RHA MA650, amazing bluetooth earphones, sound is amazing and balanced not too bass heavy. Has NFC for easy pairing and has aptX for better delivery and has over 12hrs of battery life. The best part for me is they charge using USB-C. Also they are sweatproof hence perfect for working out too. If interested, buy them from headphonezone (India only).
You guys tried oneplus bullets wireless? And playing PUBG with it?
i got this too... im happy!
U should try one plus bullet headphones. These are just amazing and works great while playing pubg.