So I bought an XT1068 on Jan 2015, for its dual SIM capabilities, the AOSP like firmware, the capability of rooting and the availability of custom ROMs. I have to say I am pretty disappointed and I wouldn't buy it again.
The stock 5.0.2 ROM is unusable for me. Lag is awful when a few apps get installed, Bluetooth audio (that I use when I am at work listening to music) breaks all the time, when Chrome is launched everything else gets killed and I could go on and on.
CM12/CM12.1 did a lot to improve the experience, Bluetooth music works fine, lag is limited (without Chrome) etc. Yet CM had many bugs at the beginning that had to do with core function of the phone such as the screen not lighting up during a phone call and had to reboot, the inability for the call receiver to hear me etc.
Although CM improved the experience by a wide margin that's the CM's team achievement not the manufacturer's.
The device has an inherent flaw, very little RAM that severely curtails multitasking as Google component's and 3rd party apps are getting heavier and heavier.
So if were looking for a dual SIM under 200€ I'd purchased one that meets the following criteria:
• Snapdragon SoC
• 5 inch minimum
• Dual SIM
• Rootable
• 2GB RAM
• A usable Stock ROM
• Availability of custom ROMs (optional)
Since Jan 2015 when Ι purchased Moto G 2014, several Chinese phones came across my hands (Lenovo, Xiaomi, Cubot, Meizu, Doogee) and sort of checked them. Although I didn’t use them myself the people that did said good things about them as far as multitasking is concerned when I played with them they surpassed Moto G 2014 by a distance. The one thing that put me off in January going the "China way" was the MediaTek SoC that have on them with their awful GPS (speaking from experience)
I care but not that much about updates as I care about stability, multitasking, multimedia and navigation.
One great thing I can say about Moto G 2014 is its GPS whether on stock or CM. Always reliable and accurate, even in doors.
Though a year has not passed since I purchased the Moto G 2014, I am sadly looking for a replacement. I am so disappointed with the stock 5.0.2 that I am seriously considering not purchasing a Motorola device ever again (even if there is the CM option, a manufacturer should ship its device with a usable ROM).
I'ts time to check if a budget device meets my criteria above (if I exclude the Snapdragon one the list is pretty big)
Motorola, in my point of view, is one of the best manufacturers when looking for a nearly stock android experience, so no doubt in that.
Yes, the Moto G 2015 is out for several months now. No it's not worth the upgrade, you lose the stereo speakers and the performance difference is not that significant. You can get the best out of your 2014 installing simply a custom ROM like the unofficial CM 13 (6.0) which is a great ROM even though it's in Alpha stage.
If you want to give Motorola another shot and want to spend something like 300 dollars, you could buy the Moto X 2014 or for 400 dollars the Moto X Pure.
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I don't regret buying this phone at all. (Got XT1068)
I was looking for a smooth, Aosp'ish stock rom with a community behind it and cheap phone.
Basically all i wanted +extra features like stereo speakers and OTA's.
Even though Moto G 2015 is out, nearly nothing changes. Both phones will get 6.0.
Well, i bought this device december 2014, after 5.0.2 update the phone was rubbish, CM 12.1 helped allot, but the 1 gb of ram has limitations... about a month ago i gave my father my xt1068 and bought myself a LG G Flex 2 for less than 300 euro, if you live in the US you can buy this phone brand new for 250$ unlocked from ebay, in my opinion is the best bang for your buck... better choice than the one plus x in my opinion, lg did a good job with the 5.1.1 update and fix all the heating problem with the SD810 and its going to recive 6.0
No regrets at all. It's perhaps the best phone I've had, including the Skyrocket I had before it. You should realize that a mid-range phone is just that; it's just a basic phone for the average user with a few extra features. However, seeing how quickly smartphone technology is progressing, our phone could be seen as a low-end device at this point.
You can't really expect high-end performance from a phone released a year ago and is under $200.
If price isn't an issue, look at some high-end models.
To be honest that's the first device of mine I didn't regret. It taught me a lot of new stuff, made me into CM + it's enough for my usage.
I guess it doesn't take a lot to please me. I'm coming from a nexus 4. For a budget phone this phone is spectacular. I have minimal OS 5.1.1 with halogen kernel and I've had no problems nor any regrets whatsoever. I'm the only one at my job to get 3G or any signal at all. I really don't know what else a person expect out of a phone, my GPS is great, the audio is awesome with faux sound control, and pictures and videos are just great. Popping a 64 gigabyte micro SD and you're good to go. So, needless to say I'll be keeping this phone for another year or two!
Yes, Play Services and Play Store are undoubtedly hogs. But when running BRNmod, or a custom ROM with MicroG and Xposed, I find the Moto G is still fine as a general day-to-day workhorse. I don't find it wanting for RAM, but I don't run a great deal in the background (Greenify, Tasker, Pushbullet, Minima Pro, AOSP keyboard and a few other services managed with Tasker and the Greenify plugin). I have Play Store installed, but have Tasker disable the package when it leaves the foreground. Auto-update of apps is done overnight via Tasker and simulated user input, after which Play Store is disabled again.
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I have been interested in the Moto X ever since the release late last year and now its at such a great price... But I must ask everyone that has already made the jump, is this device what I am looking for?
At the moment I have a Galaxy S3 through At&t loaded up with CM 10.1.3 and to be honest I am happy with the phone... but am becoming more anxious for a upgrade each day, mostly due to the abysmal battery life and non-support for things I like *wallet*.
Anyways needless to say I am about ready to upgrade to something fresh and new. I am choosing to go unlocked because AT&T is offering a discount towards customers who do not take up a subsidized plan.
Naturally I checked out the Google Play edition phones and the Nexus line first, I was hoping the X would be among their ranks, after all google did own motorola up until a week ago. However all they had was the Moto G which was is the lower end sibling to the X.
So thats when I started really digging in and when I found out motorola actually sells unlocked phones through their site. The T-mobile one being the best choice because you can unlock the bootloader and it still supports at&t fully in the USA. The only other option would had been the GSM developer edition, but I would have to forgo any customization for very little benefit in the end.
But I am sitting here wondering to myself... is now a good time to get a new phone, is this the right choice, would this phone make me happy for at least a year and half?
My largest concern with this phone is its future, how much longer can/will motorola support updates for the X? Will we see the next version of android come to this device before its antiqued by motorola? If it is shelved, is the community broad enough to provide quality unofficial updates that will offer a wonderful experience?
I mean when I look at the development section just for the AT&T galaxy S3 there is numerous ROM's several of them being official groups like CM and AOKP. But then when I checked the CM site for the T-Mobile Moto-X there is nothing, it is literally blank, is it because they don't believe the Moto X yet needs CM to fill in the gaps, or is it because they have no interest in supporting it at all?
I would pick a Nexus 5, given it is guaranteed fast updates, but the Moto X just seems like a better fit for me. I love the idea of the anywhere handsfree google now, the style of the phone just looks better, and it is stock-enough for my needs.
I guess ultimately these are my biggest questions.
1. How future-proof do you guys think this is, at least update wise? Since CM does have a page for the Moto-X does that mean they will support it eventually? The phone is widely regarded and to my knowledge quite popular, I dont see why the carrier-locked boot loader would stop CM when it didn't for other handsets.
2. What is battery life like? Given alot of you have probably had the phone for a few months, hows the battery life now, is it degrading badly?
3. Overall would this be a good upgrade coming from a GS3?
4. Should I save up and get a Nexus 5 or another google play device?
5. Is it a good time to upgrade? Or should I wait a month or two?
6. How is the camera? Is it really much worse than the GS4, IP5S, and Nokia Lumina camera's?
7. Does it support google wallet? Does it lack support for any other apps on the play store?
Lastly, how is the support for accessories? I would like to get a Pebble eventually and I have a few bluetooth stereos. Does the Moto X support most of these without issue?
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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I don't know if I can help, but If I had the choice I think I would have gone with Nexus 5 for the sole purpose of having long lasting developer support. Nexus 6 is too big, but I am tied to Verizon, and went with Moto X 2013 Dev edition for 200 on amazon. I. Love. This. Phone. I don't think I would be happy going to a phone without all the moto apps baked in/moto phone moving forward... *shrugs*
What ever you do, take your needs, and then wants. And then make the choice, Lot's of choices with Nexus 5, Lot's of out of the box awesome with Moto X.:good:
If you want timely updates for the next two years and great long lasting developer support go for the nexus 5.
However the moto x is very unique because the out-of-the-box experience is fantastic, the motorola features are great and battery is good (way better than the nexus 5 if I'm not mistaken). Also, I've read this over and over and experienced it myself : it kind of eliminates the desire for custom roms (because stock is so great). So if you want to tweak the rom just stick xposed with gravitybox on it and you're good to go. All we need to wait for here is xposed compatibility for lollipop and we're set (of course everyone's waiting for the official lollipop update most importantly, but it's bound to happen!).
In my opinion the only downside to the moto x is that it will stop getting updates before the nexus 5. Hopefully we'll still have an active developing community when that happens!
So all in all, the way I see it is that it depends on if you value updates over user experience, or the other way around. If it were my choice I would go for the moto x!
I wouldn't expect another 2 years worth of updates for either device. I'd base my decision on size as long as you're only considering the developer edition Moto X.
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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Hi, i used for 3 months nexus 5, phone quality is bad, speaker quality is bad, power button rattles...battery bad etc
now i use just for 7 days moto x 2013, all i can say is i am happy with my moto.
noobexplorer said:
Hello
Im finally upgrading from a htc explorer( while being small i loved how my battery could last me 3 to 4 days easy) i've kept it for 3 years with custom roms and was enough for me up until recently when i had to start using other apps like skype, viber and facebook as a form of communication.
I'm looking for a 300€ or less smartphone that will last me 2 years a least and ended up with two deals that i found to be under the current price market:
a moto x first gen new for 250 or a google nexus 5 new for 289
as i see the nexus is a little bit stronger on paper and probably would get outdated way after the moto x
but the moto x is cheaper and does have a nice set of perks like better battery life, ergonomics and that motorola notification thingy, my only set back was reading about the display getting burned after months of use and the gossip that motorola by now being owned by lenovo would stop getting updates after lollipop or at least as quick
I would appreciate your input on this matter especially if you have both, If i have to read another review on these phone i rather gouge out my eyes
I dont really care about the camera, im more interested in a daily driver that can mutlitask some apps and if possible be up to date in at least a year or 2.
Thanks in advance
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I currently own Moto X and used my friend's Nexus 5 quite alot. Let me tell you pro's of both.
Moto X
1 ) Ideal size and display screen.
2) Good build quality and feel.
3) Very good speakers and earpiece.
4) Lag free, very good for day to day tasks
5) Good battery timings.
Nexus 5
1) Much better software support and development.
2) 1080p screen vs Moto X 720p screen.
3) Better hardware.
4) Better video quality with OIS.
My reply,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57905262
Having owned a N5 I would say don't do it!
Honestly there isn't anything much better on the N5. Sure processor and screen quality are spec'd better but they also consume more battery. The N5 has a tiny battery...only 100mA more than the X.
The X has awesome daily usability. The active display is a great way to see ALL your new messages and notifications. The speaker sounds more clear and less tingy than the N5. Earphone output is great when listening to music. The battery lasts all day with 3-5 screen hours.
Also in my experience there are two different LCD panels being used in the N5. My friends screen was more cooler and blue. I unfortunately had a warm panel. But that's a user preference thing.
You can't go wrong with the X. Also after the updates to KitKat. The camera is actually pretty damn good. You have to use the google camera app though.
You can't go wrong with the X. I've had mine for two weeks and don't see myself upgrading until 2016.
I wouldn't even consider the second gen. The dimensions of the first X is beauty in the hands.
My post is allover the place but it is basically praising the X and saying the N5 isn't all that great.
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My reply also,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/please-help-make-smart-decision-t2988900/page3
in short for that kind of money get an lg g2
After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
rapperman said:
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1
I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0
That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G4 Plus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G4 Plus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
<3 Awesome
I'm all about it. It's by far the best phone I've had and super fun to tinker with.
Definitly not a flagship but not bad for a mid range. I rate it up there with my former nexus 5x. Just wish there was roms to flash.
Well I have the moto g4 for few days now and its a brilliant phone
Great phone @ great price
Great phone, everything you need without all the gadgets you don't need/won't use while not sacrificing modern day performance.
Best feeling 5.5" screened device.
One handed usability is great, shockingly so.
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
It heats up turbo charging. Else i give it 9/10.
Heats up a bit in games, though this is due to me purchasing the 2GB RAM option, but other than that, it's awesome!
Great budget package with decent camera.. no lags... Great front facing speakers... A bit of overheating issues...
I can't believe I got all this for so little money. Previous phones: original galaxy note, LG g2, Xperia z3, LG g4. Considered a galaxy s7 edge now and am more than happy with my decision to go for the moto g4 plus.
This week I've gifted this cellphone to my mom, a great upgrade from her old Lenovo A606. She's very happy with it, and me too, it's an awesome phone! Good aesthetics/design, good software, good everything.
Also two friends / colleagues have the same phone, both happy.
As always Motorola giving the best at the best prices.
Bought on May 27th ,2016....Still I love my Moto G4 plus...Normally I don't use any phone more than 6 months..I used Nokia 3510 for almost 3 years and Htc desire X for one year in 2013. But still I love my Moto G4 plus and using..
I wanted to sell this phone in March..But I cannot sell because my mind didn't allow to do so..
Moto G4 16gb 2gb ram + Lineage OS 14.1
For an easy phone that is great on the wallet and still has decent performance, this is a killer device.
Performance is pretty great in my opinion, to save battery I am using the Elemental X kernel and have my CPU undervolted and the big cores max clock at about 1300mhz, truth be told I do not need much power in my phone because I really just use my phone for communication, videos, and audio. I don't really play games on my phone aside from classic Pokemon.
RAM in the G4 16gb is a little limited, as 2gb of ram I do start to notice some sluggish performance if I leave too many apps open. I don't use a whole lot of apps at once, so this doesn't bother me and I can just as easily close the apps out.
Camera is pretty decent, takes decent shots and videos. That's all I ask for.
Battery does get hot quick, have not found anything that can fix this but it's not an issue.
The lack of NFC I was not aware of until after I bought the phone. I was kind of disappointed by that, but really even when I had a phone with NFC, I did not really use it as much as I thought I did. But for buying the phone for under $100, cannot complain about a missing feature I might use once in a blue moon.
Overall this phone is a nice phone to get your hands wet in Android development. Easy to unlock, it is not locked to any carrier, supports all the major LTE Bands, great display, overall a very good experience with the phone.
If you do use a lot of apps I do recommend getting a 32gb version at least. I do not use a lot of apps, but the 16gb ROM is used by everything. System, boot, data, apps, it uses it. Thankfully for pictures and some apps that support it(unless you root it) you do have the ability to add an SD card to the device.
I would get another Moto phone in the future.
I'm looking to make the move from the Moto X Pure to the Z3 Play. So I'm just trying to get some insight from current users as to why you selected this phone over, say for example, the V30 or Pixel 2? Look forward to anyone's thoughts.
Mainly the 18:9 screen ratio and the fact that I can make monthly payments through Amazon
Had an OG Moto z-play with a handful of mods and wanted to keep using them. Plus, i loved my z-play, probably the longest lasting and most reliable phone I've had, but i broke the camera dropping it on concrete.
I also have a Moto z play with some mods. I like that the z3 play display and fingerprint sensor has been modernized and longed for the superb battery life of the Moto z line with mods. So here I am. I'm going back and forth with my other phone, the Sony xz2.
Had a Z, wife has a Z2 play, and even had a Moto x. Daughter has G4 play too. So kinda a Moto family now. Plus have a battery mod, the Hasselblad camera and the projector, so Z3 play made sense.
Enjoying it too! I think my Z battery got fried, it was only getting about an hour and a half screen time without the battery mod. My Z3 play is at 84 percent after an hour and a half, no mod. Lol
I'm going to be coming to the Z3 play from an Xperia X Performance... to be honest, I should have gotten on the Moto Mods train with the Z2 generation, but the Z3 offers enough to have enticed me away from the physical camera button on the Xperia XZ2 compact. I considered at least four other phones (Nokia 6.1, Samsung A8 2018, and Moto X4 among the serious contenders) and honestly the self-contained battery expansions were almost exclusively the reason this phone won out over everything but the micro-flagship. I have a feeling it'll be too big for my hands, but I'm hoping gesture navigation will help. It shipping with 8.1 will be nice, but I'll probably miss the really fast access to security patches, as Sony's been doing a good job on that. Arrival date tomorrow... I'm sure I'll be thrilled to death for a while regardless.
I had a Galaxy Note 3 that died so I needed a new phone. I didn't want to get into a large monthly payment and to buy a decent phone outright was too expensive. I'm a Virgin cellular customer and I had a $40/month plan (I brought my Note with me when I went to virgin), that gave me 2gb of data and cross Canada calling plus texting to Canada and the U.S. This is all I need in a plan so I was very happy when I got it and I didn't want to get a big increase in my monthly bill.
I went to Virgin to see what they had in phones and I saw the Z3 Play. The salesman said if I paid $99 up front, my monthly payment would be $50. I jumped at the offer. Since I was paying $40/month when I had the Note 3 and now I am paying $50/month, I am paying $10 extra per month for 24 months, that's $240. Plus the $99 I paid upfront, that makes the phone $339. They are asking $799 for the phone, so I got a great deal. Plus he gave me a clear case and a bottle of screen cleaner for $40 and he took $50 off the $799 the phone cost, so it's a free case.
Ian
I'm looking to replace my Note5, which I still love, but for which there doesn't seem to be a budget successor ($400 range) that has wireless charging. With the Moto Mods, I can add that to this phone, which I like. I'm concerned about Moto's southward-turning customer service though. We had to send back a G5, and my in-laws got an update on both their Motos that broke GPS (still not fixed). Still, this seems like the possible only contender. We'll see. Still evaluating my choices and I'm not in an emergency to switch because T-Mo hasn't really activated band 71 in my area. My battery life is terrible though.
spg900ny said:
I'm looking to replace my Note5, which I still love, but for which there doesn't seem to be a budget successor ($400 range) that has wireless charging. With the Moto Mods, I can add that to this phone, which I like. I'm concerned about Moto's southward-turning customer service though. We had to send back a G5, and my in-laws got an update on both their Motos that broke GPS (still not fixed). Still, this seems like the possible only contender. We'll see. Still evaluating my choices and I'm not in an emergency to switch because T-Mo hasn't really activated band 71 in my area. My battery life is terrible though.
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If it's battery life you're looking for then you get 2 days easy with the battery mod. Solid phone so far.
Just received this phone it seemed good being a 8.1. and Amazon takes payments. Every thing is working great.
I'd not want to root this phone! It's perfect. Motorola mod z3 is the sturdiest cell phone I've had in terms of physical aspects of the Smartphones I've seen and owned in one. I've "handled" the others and their too lazy to brake open and get to the internal design to flash. Motorola is the only cell phone I'll buy from the Droid to this one.
Under Corfish custom Roms...you will have to do "dit" typo and "clean up this mess" yourself in the lazy Droid turbo functionality of the x3 crash. I'm not kidding OMG! Hahahaha!
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The modular functions and the almost vanilla os you can get in a locked phone.
Tw1st3dG3m1n1 said:
The modular functions and the almost vanilla os you can get in a locked phone.
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Lol have a great day
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I just noticed that one of the phones on my Verizon account is a z2 PLAY, yay!
I get to play!
Battery life with the Battery Mod that comes with it!
Are you planning to buy Moto Z3 ..?
Moto Z3 face off as the snap-on modem is your gateway to the 5G network!!!
If sources are to believed, then the Moto Z3 will be the first 5G upgradeable smartphone!
1. Battery life and Moto Mod ecosystem
2. $150 off retail ($100 Moto discount now expired but probably will return soon, $50 Best Buy/Cricket Wireless promotion still valid)
3. Came from a Moto Nexus 6 which I really liked but was showing its age. Also had a Moto Atrix 4g years ago which was great until it got stolen.
Been using Motorola from the beginning of time...
StarTac 130
V300
E398
RAZR V3
SLVR L7
Then Stop for a while (using other brands SONY Erricson & LG..)
Moto Defy
Nexus 6
Moto Z Play (The modular posibilities connection and the sturdiest design and form factor suit me)
And Now... continue with Moto Z3 Play (Can still use all my old moto mods accessories)
Well it definitely wasn't Moto's track record of updates but after owning 3 Nokia Android One phones and having plenty of bugs and over all poor performance I decided to give Moto another try. I had the Nokia 3.1, 6.1, and lastly the 7.1 and for whatever the reason the Moto z3 play preforms much better than the 7.1 with basically the same internals. I picked up the z3 play at Best Buy for 399 with the free battery mod and I'm extremely happy with my purchase. The display is beautiful (just as good as the 7.1) the camera is just as good as the 7.1 as well and the camera app is much better on the Moto in my opinion. Although the 7.1 was hdr compliant, hdr through all major streaming services weren't supported yet and no real answer of when they would add the device so kind of a useless feature and the upscaling felt gimmicky. Don't get me wrong I am really pulling for Nokia just for the sake of it being Nokia but the Android One program feels more like generic system images just pushed to devices and not really optimized for the device. And I am really liking the Moto mods, makes the phone fun and more than just a phone.