Trouble with 3rd Party Alarm Apps and Custom Alarm Sounds in Marshmallow? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone else encountering issues with custom alarm sounds?
It's already been confirmed by app developers that most (all?) 3rd party alarm apps no longer work because of Marshmallow's doze deep sleep feature (more on that later). However, in moving my alarms over to the stock Marshmallow Clock app (which does work), I can't seem to bring any of my custom alarm sounds over. With previous OS versions, I just copied custom Alarm sounds to the appropriate folder in either internal or external storage (it used to be under \media\audio\) under Alarms, Ringtones, and Notifications folders. Although those folders are still present on the Nexus 6, and do work for 3rd party apps as well as stock apps like Messenger, Calendar, Phone ringtones, etc., they don't work for the stock Clock -- the only alarms that are available are the original stock ones.
So I tried to move my custom Alarm sounds to the system partition and encountered an out of space error, so I deleted some of the stock alarms and replaced them with my own. That works, but won't work for waking up to music because the music files are just too big to go on the system partition.
With regard to the 3rd party alarm clock apps no longer working, I figured out a work-around that seems to be successful so far. What happens is the alarm clock apps can't wake up the phone when Marshmallow is in doze mode (which usually happens overnight). I tried setting the app's notifications as a priority, and I also set the app to not be battery optimized, but it didn't work and the apps' developers have confirmed the same. Anyway, my work-around is to set an alarm in the stock Clock app to go off a minute before the 3rd-party app alarm does. The alarm in the stock Clock app can even be silent. What I'm guessing is happening is that the stock Clock app alarm brings the phone out of doze and it takes longer than a minute to go back into doze, so the 3rd-party alarm will sound.
Anyway, any suggestions for getting the custom alarm folders working again would be appreciated, but it sounds like it might be a genuine bug in the OS.

I have no issues with Alarm plus. It works without fail and doze doesnt effect it.
All the app developers need to do is follow the guide lines
Standard AlarmManager alarms (including setExact() and setWindow()) are deferred to the next maintenance window.
If you need to set alarms that fire while in Doze, use setAndAllowWhileIdle() or setExactAndAllowWhileIdle().
Alarms set with setAlarmClock() continue to fire normally — the system exits Doze shortly before those alarms fire.

zelendel said:
I have no issues with Alarm plus. It works without fail and doze doesnt effect it.
All the app developers need to do is follow the guide lines
Standard AlarmManager alarms (including setExact() and setWindow()) are deferred to the next maintenance window.
If you need to set alarms that fire while in Doze, use setAndAllowWhileIdle() or setExactAndAllowWhileIdle().
Alarms set with setAlarmClock() continue to fire normally — the system exits Doze shortly before those alarms fire.
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Are you referring to Alarm Clock Plus? I can't find any app named Alarm Plus. Reviewers running Marshmallow are claiming that Alarm Clock Plus alarms are no longer working. I'm using Alarm Clock Xtreme, and the alarms are definitely not working unless I use my work-around.

internetpilot said:
Are you referring to Alarm Clock Plus? I can't find any app named Alarm Plus. Reviewers running Marshmallow are claiming that Alarm Clock Plus alarms are no longer working. I'm using Alarm Clock Xtreme, and the alarms are definitely not working unless I use my work-around.
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Alarm plus Millenium Is the name of the app

Thank you. On my way to the Play Store. Haha

internetpilot said:
Thank you. On my way to the Play Store. Haha
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No prob. I live on 3 hours of sleep a night so i need a reliable alarm clock. This one has never failed me.

Unfortunately it turns out that even Alarms Plus Millenium isn't currently working with Marshmallow. The developer replied to my email and said that he's working on an update but that until then you have to have the phone plugged in and charging for the alarms to sound. This is because Google said that the dose mode is not activated when the phone is plugged in or moving.
I still bought the app though and will be switching to using it because he's the first alarm clock developer who actually responded to me with at least some knowledge of how to fix his app to be compatible with Marshmallow. The rest of them all seemed to have no idea and no ETA on an update to fix their apps.

internetpilot said:
Unfortunately it turns out that even Alarms Plus Millenium isn't currently working with Marshmallow. The developer replied to my email and said that he's working on an update but that until then you have to have the phone plugged in and charging for the alarms to sound. This is because Google said that the dose mode is not activated when the phone is plugged in or moving.
I still bought the app though and will be switching to using it because he's the first alarm clock developer who actually responded to me with at least some knowledge of how to fix his app to be compatible with Marshmallow. The rest of them all seemed to have no idea and no ETA on an update to fix their apps.
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That would make since as I charge my device over night as I sleep. Never occurred to me that if I didn't charge it that way it wouldn't go off.

zelendel said:
That would make since as I charge my device over night as I sleep. Never occurred to me that if I didn't charge it that way it wouldn't go off.
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You're still better off with Alarm Plus Millennium over any of the other alarm clock apps, IMHO. I've contacted four or five of the most popular ones, and their respective devs have no idea how, when, or if they'll be able to fix their app. The Alarm Plus Millennium dev says he's about 3 days out from releasing a new version that will work. So, thanks again for recommending Alarm Plus Millennium. It didn't show up in any of my searches on the Play Store for alarm clock apps, so I would've never found it otherwise.

internetpilot said:
You're still better off with Alarm Plus Millennium over any of the other alarm clock apps, IMHO. I've contacted four or five of the most popular ones, and their respective devs have no idea how, when, or if they'll be able to fix their app. The Alarm Plus Millennium dev says he's about 3 days out from releasing a new version that will work. So, thanks again for recommending Alarm Plus Millennium. It didn't show up in any of my searches on the Play Store for alarm clock apps, so I would've never found it otherwise.
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Yeah he is really good about that. I worked with him to kill a bug about 4 months ago. Was very responsive and willing to help. Glad you found an app that works for you.

FYI, Caynax Alarm Clock (free and pro versions) works in Marshmallow now.

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about the process of alarm clock?hope to find the answer~

using cm 4.15.1 rom,i found that the alarm clock often auto close after a program run or desktop crash.
i opened taskmanager and found there's no process of alarm clock,but the next morning it sound amazing.
by the way,i also tested another state,after set a nearly time to alarm,i killed its process with taskmanager,then never happened at the time.if i didn't kill,it's normal.
so who can tell me the reason?will the process of alarm clock be hidden sometime?or something can wake up its process?
PS:i used apptosd,maybe this affect?
thx for your answer. my english is poor...

I found out why I kept oversleeping with my droid 3 alarm

When you put the phone screen-down (which I do so I don't wake up because of notification lights etc).. it instantly snoozes when the alarm goes off because "touch the screen to snooze"
Couple of times I would oversleep never understanding why it didn't keep alarming until I turned it off..like I set it to.
So ye..screen up!
There is a setting that alows for "turn over for snooze. Disable it.
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DoubleYouPee said:
When you put the phone screen-down (which I do so I don't wake up because of notification lights etc).. it instantly snoozes when the alarm goes off because "touch the screen to snooze"
Couple of times I would oversleep never understanding why it didn't keep alarming until I turned it off..like I set it to.
So ye..screen up!
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i had the same issue, i had to switch to another alarm clock because on the old one I was using (it had a blue icon and came up as the 2nd result in the market when searching for alarm clocks) wouldn't ever play loud, regardless of the volume setting, and it refused to use a different tone for the alarm. The one I'm using now is Alarm Clock Plus and it's awesome, so if you're ever looking for another alarm clock, I suggest this one
ebaysnyper said:
There is a setting that alows for "turn over for snooze. Disable it.
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I think I have the AOSP alarm and don't have that option
digitalsynner85 said:
i had the same issue, i had to switch to another alarm clock because on the old one I was using (it had a blue icon and came up as the 2nd result in the market when searching for alarm clocks) wouldn't ever play loud, regardless of the volume setting, and it refused to use a different tone for the alarm. The one I'm using now is Alarm Clock Plus and it's awesome, so if you're ever looking for another alarm clock, I suggest this one
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Alarm Clock Plus is what I have used since my OG Droid. It is just like the stock alarm from Froyo, but fully customizable.
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[app] Clever Alarm

Clever Alarm is one of the most advanced alarms for WP7. You will never oversleep!
The app has Metro style, it´s very easy to use and still free! Clever Alarm has several
types of alarm (Math, Shaking, Sorting,...) or you can choose "Nap". You can use Clever
Alarm like a bedside alarm clock. You can select your own music from the library.
Clever Alarm also runs under lock screen or you can disable the auto lock screen feature.
You can also change the color of the clock (the clock can be either analog or digital).
Clever Alarm dims the screen automatically, shows date, supports the snooze function,
supports 12/24 hours format and much more. Try it now!
The next version will bring monitoring sleep cycles and much more.
Link:
windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/cdd28225-e361-49dc-8226-5353b0c1b1de
Sorry, but I can´t post outside link. Please search in MarketPlace: "Clever Alarm" (Green Icon)
Link
Link:
windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/cdd28225-e361-49dc-8226-5353b0c1b1de
I like the math idea, I think it's a great way to ensure that the user wakes up. Just installed.
Thanks for you reply. After your testing the app, please write your comments, suggestions, problems (etc.) with the app.
Hacked!
I just minimized app and silent. Nice design, good functions, but this is bad. When I wake up, then I want sleep and don't think about the calculation.
Maybe you will need add alarm on background? but it is contrary to Marketplace the conditions, I think.
Check my app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127159
I don´t understand this sentece: "When I wake up, then I want sleep and don't think about the calculation" ...what you mean? can you write some your notes, comments,... for the app? thx
Ok, I will try
With your App:
Alarm!!!
I wake up;
Just click one key: Back, Start or Search;
Alarm is stoping;
I continue to sleep.
Your app is hacked just with one key click.
With my App:
Alarm!!!
I wake up;
Just click one key: Back, Start or Search;
Is't working - alarm still playing; (alarm is working on original music player);
I try click virtuals: stop, pause, backward, forward buttons - ALARM STILL PLAYING!
I need type code: 4815162342
I just typed true code:
Alarm is stoping. I wake up and go to in the shower or Just continue to sleep.
Hm... I'm just hacked my app self - click volume down to 0 (minimum) and alarm volume is very low. I NEED FIX IT!
I understand, but it´s again marketplace conditions... have you another tips for the app? what do you like in alarm?
I like it
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i had some problems with the app, it drained my battery over night from 100% to zero, my phone was from midnight 100% to 9:00 at 0% and off. i set my alarm on this app and the digital clock appeared i locked the phone, and go to sleep, wake up with no battery, nothing. the phone was fully drained. i then charged my battery and tested again, and the same thing, from 12:00 till 15:00h my battery was drained, under lockscreen. that is not how it gonna to be or? my opinion is when you in lockscreen the app should have something like standby, and battery saving feature, and not battery drain. i then uninstalled the app and my battery lasts over 48hours. the app has a good concept, but i would like to have some times set, like on the integrated app of wp7, and just to activate them by one tap. and to have multiple alarms memorized there somewhere...
hi,
thx for your reply...next week I will work on this app and I will try solve this problem with consuming a lot of battery... And have you another tips what you want in next version?
Great app, thanks
Bohus88 said:
hi,
thx for your reply...next week I will work on this app and I will try solve this problem with consuming a lot of battery... And have you another tips what you want in next version?
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just the one tip to have multiple times set. like in the integrated alarm of wp7. if you set an alarm that then will be stored on some other screen where all alarms clock have been set. or maybe 20. than just a button like on the integrated to activate that alarm which you want... so that you don't type every time the same time... just look at the integrated alarm clock with its times...
Excellent thread

Silent alarm in teather mode??

trying the updated version 5.0.1 i found alarm clock not working in teather mode,
can anybody tell me if it is a feature or a bug?
thehetfield said:
trying the updated version 5.0.1 i found alarm clock not working in teather mode,
can anybody tell me if it is a feature or a bug?
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if you in theater .....you want your alarm clock still working? as if in theater..it shd be do not disturb at all...you might want to ask Google android wear developer team for this..but if i am using the theater mode, i really want no light no notification at all
Well, this morning i could verify that the alarm did not go off even in vibration-only mode, while previously working.
Thing is in theater mode alarm clock could be vibrating only, in my opinion, without screen flashing at all
Same problem here this morning, silent or theater mode disable the alarm.
Which is kind of a pain in the ass when the previous version was ok with it...
Just tried a couple free apps on the play store (wake up well and alarmclock extended) working both live a charm in theater mode, I think someone at Google just missed a bug ( or the whole purpose of an alarm clock )

Pie: Alarm widgets show 5 minutes delayed

Does anyone know why my alarm widgets (ie. either Chronus or HD Widgets or Elixir) show up as 5 minutes delayed? The alarms work well and activate correctly, but they're shown 5 minutes delayed on the widgets (for ex. 12:00noon alarm shows on the widget as 11:55, or 6:00pm alarm shows as 5:55pm). Been since I upgraded to Pie.
I see the same happening on the pie beta 3 on my s8.
It happens using the weather timeline widget and the stock Samsung alarm.
However when I use a different alarm app such as sleep as Android it is displayed correctly.
sherpa25 said:
Does anyone know why my alarm widgets (ie. either Chronus or HD Widgets or Elixir) show up as 5 minutes delayed? The alarms work well and activate correctly, but they're shown 5 minutes delayed on the widgets (for ex. 12:00noon alarm shows on the widget as 11:55, or 6:00pm alarm shows as 5:55pm). Been since I upgraded to Pie.
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Ditto... Same thing..
Whoa, thought it was only in mine, as I've searched google and here, and found no one report on it. Is this a Pie issue? Should be in the Samsung forums, if so.
The issue still persists in the official pie rollout on s8 unfortunately. I've no idea how to solve this
Someone post the solution
This is driving me crazy.
Any progress regarding this issue?
sherpa25 said:
Does anyone know why my alarm widgets (ie. either Chronus or HD Widgets or Elixir) show up as 5 minutes delayed? The alarms work well and activate correctly, but they're shown 5 minutes delayed on the widgets (for ex. 12:00noon alarm shows on the widget as 11:55, or 6:00pm alarm shows as 5:55pm). Been since I upgraded to Pie.
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Guids said:
I see the same happening on the pie beta 3 on my s8.
It happens using the weather timeline widget and the stock Samsung alarm.
However when I use a different alarm app such as sleep as Android it is displayed correctly.
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blu3angel said:
Ditto... Same thing..
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Congaman said:
This is driving me crazy.
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Rushmed said:
Any progress regarding this issue?
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I had a similar issue where widgets, and other apps, were not updating or giving notifications correctly.
The problem was with app optimization- I had to un-optimize these apps in order for them to work properly.
Settings > apps > (three dots menu) special access > optimize battery usage
You can also search directly for 'Optimize battery usage'
The default display "Apps not optimized" only shows apps that have not been optimized. You will want to change this to "all apps". Then you will be able to de-optimize apps that you want instant notifications or updates from.
If the app you want to use needs data access as well in order to function (weather widgets) then you can go a step further and go to..
Settings > apps > *APP YOU WANT TO MODIFY* > mobile data
Then allow "allow background data usage" and "allow app while data saver is on". The former is more important, but the later insures the app will receive updates no matter what. Hope this helps.
That dosent fix the behavoir.
Rushmed said:
That dosent fix the behavoir.
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go to an alternate apk downloading site and get the previous version of the app. Seems to be a recurring issue across several phones when running the newest version of chronus on pie.
Sorry man but when did we start to talk about chronus? Don't know the App even don't have it installed.

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