Hello there,
Last few days I have noticed that when I am on mobile data my battery drains quite faster than usual. It draıns slightly more than %2/h when I leave the phone during sleep period. I have searched around for a solution, I disabled google sync, cleared google app data, location is off, android device manager is off, tried package disabler pro, restarted the phone. It wasnt an issue before. I dont know how this happened it is really frustrating. Google services and email sync is always at the top of battery usage unless I use the phone very heavily on screen. I am not rooted and actually dont want to root since I am really new to android and not comfortable doing it. When I checked smart manager after 2 hours of usage, both google services and email sync had around 25minutes of connection time.
One more concern, I am having scroll stutter/jittery scrolling in most apps. This is more noticable on Facebook app, very harsh on Shazam and whatsapp emoji menu. I wonder if a better launcher can provide better scrolling. Read some posts this happens due to scrolling cache but I have no idea how to deal with it.
Thanks in advance. I would appreciate any further tips to get better performance/battery life out of the phone.
Update: Deleted google play services and phone forced me to update it again. Google services drain seems better but email sync stays the same. Additionally 'Cell Standby' drain occured now. This is really strange.
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History: as aprevious iPhone 4 user but long time android tablet user, I was less accustomed to battery consumption on Android phones. I was experiencing sleep usage (data on, WiFi connected to home network and good signal, Bluetooth radio on but not in use) of approximately 6-10% per hour. After reading battery life posts from other users on these and other forums, it appeared this was excessive. I had, after enabling these items (Google now, Google +) decided to disable them. But usage varied little. On screen time was about 3:40 or so. I had Google voice and Pandora installed. I was using built in email client, 3 accounts, fetching every 30 minutes including 1 @gmail domain account, what's app running, skype installed but not running or notifying. Battery usage stats indicated nothing excessive, Voice, What's App and Pandora had a process or two running along with WWF and SWF (notifications set for 1 or 2 hours) but batt stats did not indicate anything unusual with OS. Pulse, AP press, Flipboard installed but set to only sync/update when using the app.
First fix attempt: installed juice defender and set to aggressive. Battery use dropped to 3%/hr when left untouched for the hour. Emails weren't coming through regularly because of the JD and email client timing off sync. Installed K9 and set to 10 minutes fetch for all three accounts. Battery usage about the same for on screen. Better performance. Could get through 10-12 hour day with moderate use texts, emails, news apps (pulse clipboard ap) and a few pics. But battery drain seemed to be drastic when using apps and the unit started to drain when idle at a rate of about 4% (could be signal cell tower location cgange , etc). Overall acceptable but still "less" than when compared to forum posts and previous phone experience.
Second and present attempt: installed wugroot toolkit 1.6.2. Unlocked boot loader, rooted phone and installed custom recovery. Returned to stock. Rerooted and relocked. Installed no accounts on reboot. Installed Google account afterwards with same calendar and contact setting auto sync only. No Google +, no Google now, NO Google voice. No gmail. No pulse no clipboard no AP. Researched and installed Taptu in lieu of Pulse. Installed Aqua mail as email client for three email accounts(at least now I can change the account an email is sent from after beginning to compose an email!). Reinstalled Evernote, drop box, Google drive (manual sync for all three). Did NOT reinstall Juice Defender.
Battery use, when left untouched for an hour is almost NIL! (Still says charged) After 2 hours phone is at 98% or 99% when before it could be 82-88%. This is a revelation. 35 minutes of playing granny smith consumes 10% of battery, interpolation (all I can go on at this point) would mean almost 5 hours of constant screen use and less with standby time . WiFi, data, Bluetooth (not in use) enabled. NFC disabled and same settings as mentioned above.
Explanations: Google voice could be a severe drain, but I will not install yet until I am convinced it's innocuous as I am afraid an install and uninstall could "mess things up" with the OS. OR Google + and Google Now can not be installed and then uninstalled without leaving something running in the OS contributing to battery drain. OR pulse, flipboard and ap are not behaving well in manual sync modes.OR the wipe and reinstall via Wugroot has eliminated a bug from original factory setup. Regardless, the phone battery use appears in line with the positive experiences of those in these forums. I suggest, as much of a pain it might be, to give this a whirl if you are technically inclined. Please note all data will be wiped by this process and while I backed everything up via wugroot in case of a disaster scenario, I did not restore ANY data from those backups for the reflash of 4.2.1 and reroot, relock process.
Don't use juice defender, only does more harm than good.
Ace42 said:
Don't use juice defender, only does more harm than good.
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It is actually a last resort for those whom are unauthorized, intimidated or unsure about reflashing the OS onto their device. Therefore, while it may do more harm than good on a device with little issue (i.e, no software apps or OS bugs), it actually helps those with such problems until they root out (couldn't resist) the source of the problem and move on. Again, reread my post as I discontinued its use after the reinstall of the OS.
I've noticed that the battery life got worse with the latest 23.5.A.1.191 update. With previous version I could leave the phone on desk overnight and the battery did not drop at all (flat line in the battery usage graph). Now with the Stamina comeback I can see a 10 to 15% drop overnight. Can you please share your ideas what settings I should look into to fix it? Thanks
Have u check your wakelock? Play services often do this idiot bug.
Yes, Play services was the app draining the battery, but I remembered that I installed Google Fit in the meantime. Additionally something got messed up with the location after the last update, so I did not see a detailed route but just a large circle on the map in Fit (maybe permissions for gps location?).
However uninstalling Google Fit fixed it. I woke up today and saw a flat line in the battery usage.
I leave data usage over night and , since I have this phone, my battery draining from Google Play services is abnormal. I only synd gmail, no other service, no other permission. I've used Gservicefix without any result. Does anybody know why?
SoulFury said:
I leave data usage over night and , since I have this phone, my battery draining from Google Play services is abnormal. I only synd gmail, no other service, no other permission. I've used Gservicefix without any result. Does anybody know why?
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There are lots of reasons why Google Play Services are eating your battery, try a few fixes yourself, check which version of Play Services you have installed , anything older than 9.4.52 needs replacing.
Remove your google account, wipe data for Play Services and Download manager, restart to recovery, wipe cache/dalvik. Restart phone, add account again.
There seems to be issues with fitness trackers and bluetooth, if you have bluetooth on all the time, see what happens if you turn it off?
I can recomend Greenify app that can make a difference in putting apps to sleep, it also helps you see which apps are awake and on.
Check in settings/developer options/running services to see what's on and using most memory, you might be surprised at what you find. To enable developer options go to settings/about phone - press on build 8 times, then you get a message that develper options are availabe in the settings menu.
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I leave data usage over night and , since I have this phone, my battery draining from Google Play services is abnormal. I only synd gmail, no other service, no other permission. I've used Gservicefix without any result. Does anybody know why?
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the first couple of days after an update or a factory reset, google play services collects a lot of information. It should go back to normal after some days. Anyway, I can give you some suggestion to limit the battery drain:
- new Stamina is a rebrand of the normal battery saver. Don't keep it always on.
- if you want something reminding the old stamina, download Greenify, follow instruction for adb command to enable Aggressive Doze and enable Doze on the go. Take away optimization from battery advanced setting for apps you need push notification from (e.g. whatsapp)
- disable wifi scanning when wifi is off (search in settings wifi scanning, though the search button. If your language is different from English (US) and you don't find the setting, switch to English (US) to find it)
- restrict google play services background data when not in wifi
- in account/google disable the sync for whatever you don't strictly need (play newstands, g+, ...)
With this settings, I can get 5 hours sot in a couple of day of usage, and almost no battery drain over night.
Well, my daily use consist on:
- Traffic data always on
- watch clock when needed
- +-45min WhatsApp
- Some random search.
- Some rare use of torch
- Sync with Gmail(ONLY Gmail)
I only use wifi for updates and don't have any gps or bluetooth use...Battery last above 48h this way and google services hast half of time with radio antena on.
I've been thoroughly impressed with battery life on the Moto Z as a result of normal use. Less so with idle battery consumption. That is, after installing my full complement of apps (including facebook and twitter), I did a few tests by going too bed on a full charge, and found that 7 or so hours later, it had burned down 15-20% doing nothing overnight!
I installed gsam batter monitor since the stock one is kind of useless. This provided a lot of valuable info, which is basically that Twitter is a huge hog, Facebook surprisingly isn't, and google play services also seems to be spinning its wheels a lot when I'm doing nothing. But most of my juice was going to powering the wifi radio.
Android M has a setting to turn off wifi when the phone is sleeping. I was reluctant to do this at first because I figured my apps would just start wasting my data instead. However, you also have the ability to selectively limit apps' ability to use cellular data when running in the background. In an app's settings you can click "Data Usage", then "Restrict app background data."
I did this for all the apps that gsam identified as being the wifi/battery users. And frankly there are almost no apps that I actually want using data when I'm not using the app itself anyway, except SMS and gmail. (I wish there was a way to just say "actually shut this app down when I close it", so I could activate it for most apps!)
Anyway -after doing this, I activated the setting to turn off the wifi radio when the phone was sleeping.
Result? 2% battery drain overnight, and minimal cellular data use. Amazing.
(Btw - I also uninstalled the twitter app and just put a link from chrome on my desktop. The web mobile app is very good anyway and I'm not much a twitter addict so this is a fine alternative that is a lot less intrustive for me).
jamtre said:
I've been thoroughly impressed with battery life on the Moto Z as a result of normal use. Less so with idle battery consumption. That is, after installing my full complement of apps (including facebook and twitter), I did a few tests by going too bed on a full charge, and found that 7 or so hours later, it had burned down 15-20% doing nothing overnight!
I installed gsam batter monitor since the stock one is kind of useless. This provided a lot of valuable info, which is basically that Twitter is a huge hog, Facebook surprisingly isn't, and google play services also seems to be spinning its wheels a lot when I'm doing nothing. But most of my juice was going to powering the wifi radio.
Android M has a setting to turn off wifi when the phone is sleeping. I was reluctant to do this at first because I figured my apps would just start wasting my data instead. However, you also have the ability to selectively limit apps' ability to use cellular data when running in the background. In an app's settings you can click "Data Usage", then "Restrict app background data."
I did this for all the apps that gsam identified as being the wifi/battery users. And frankly there are almost no apps that I actually want using data when I'm not using the app itself anyway, except SMS and gmail. (I wish there was a way to just say "actually shut this app down when I close it", so I could activate it for most apps!)
Anyway -after doing this, I activated the setting to turn off the wifi radio when the phone was sleeping.
Result? 2% battery drain overnight, and minimal cellular data use. Amazing.
(Btw - I also uninstalled the twitter app and just put a link from chrome on my desktop. The web mobile app is very good anyway and I'm not much a twitter addict so this is a fine alternative that is a lot less intrustive for me).
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I just got the phone a couple days ago. I appreciate the info here. I have also read that if you just turn wifi to 2.4 GHz only that it will keep the battery drain from happening. I don't use twitter or facebook so don't have to worry about those. Google play services has been a problem since marshmallow. If we could root we could use something like Amplify to stop all the wakelocks, but root is getting hard to come by on these new phones.
I noticed on Gsam that my phone will sleep well for a while, then the "held awake" category starts to take off. I have to reboot to get it to doze again. I have agressive doze and doze on the go activated in Greenify. Not sure what gets it started, but it would be nice to be able to kill it off without rebooting.
I bought a USB C to regular USB and have been charging without the Turbo Charger and the battery is doing so much better.
I was getting frustrated with the battery performance.
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If I don't restart my phone after charging overnight, Google Play Services eats more battery than anything else on the phone.
If I reboot it seems to stop as is slowly slips down the list, but with out a reboot it remains the heaviest user and my battery drains significantly quicker.
Is there any reason for this? I have turned off background data for the app, don't have location services or anything like that switched on... It seems like some process starts while the phone is charging that fails to stop when unplugged.
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Google service include "push" gmail/ contact synchronisation and over things. So that depend on what you use on your phone.
Google Backup quite often starts while the phone is plugged in.
Other services can call GPS to start, sometimes apps request location info that causes location services to fire up. I seem to have an ongoing issue with Google contacts, constantly starting, even though I don't have my Google account sync enabled and the address book is based on a CSV. file import.
Unlock developer options (settings\system\about phone\ press build number 8 times) and look in running services, see if there are some other apps running that may start it.
GPS battery drain has haunted every model and make of phone I've ever had.
How else are Google going to transfer your every button click, movement, location and (if some people are to be believed) voice recording back to their HQ?
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If I don't restart my phone after charging overnight, Google Play Services eats more battery than anything else on the phone.
If I reboot it seems to stop as is slowly slips down the list, but with out a reboot it remains the heaviest user and my battery drains significantly quicker.
Is there any reason for this? I have turned off background data for the app, don't have location services or anything like that switched on... It seems like some process starts while the phone is charging that fails to stop when unplugged.
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I have exactly the same problem on my Galaxy S7. Still trying to find a solution.
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
I have the same issue, currently it's almost 2 days background and almost 11% battery drain. I usually get similar results ~5% battery drain per day.
On my S21U looking at a week’s battery usage, Google Play Services has used .7 to 1.4% per day with daily background usage varying between 11 and 23 hours. Active usage is consistently zero every day though. So I am not seeing any battery issues from Google Play Services. How does this compare with your daily Google Play Services battery usage history for the previous week?
Only disabling sync for accounts I can get more 8 to 10% battery, unfortunately. It's strange because as I said never had this problem before in any brand or model including Samsung.
Turn off Mobile background data and go to battery and turn off run in background. If you want to monitor what is going on there is a few tools you can use and some apps are better than others at honoring your selection but it can also cause problems for other apps that are in the background ie music/video players so keep that in mind. download pcapdroid and glasswire it will tell you a lot about what is running at what time of the day and where the data is being sent if you use wireshark to look at the pcap file. start with what i suggested with turning off the two options for each app after you observe the usage of the app and you will thank me later. My battery drain is minimal at idle, overnight it is 2% for a 12 hour period and most of that is email which i don't want optimised and allow to run in background
For me the option to turn off background usage is greyed out. Is there any way around this?
For Google play services itself you can't but if you turn of everything else you will see major improvements. There are a few others you can't turn off but don't worry.
Just disable it. Enable when you need it.
Most times it's not needed at all.
Disable all cloud crap unless you use it.
Google Transport is a prime offender, disable it.
Turn off Google Firebase and all feedback including Samsung, carrier feedback if any.
Use Karma Firewall to block Android Services, Playstore and Google Play Services if disabling it isn't getting it
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery, no ads, a great clean app. Unfortunately it's logging feature doesn't work on high security Q/11.
Thanks for nothing Google...
If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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Gmail, Playstore and Gmaps are the only useful Google apps. Google Play Services can easily be enabled as needed.
Otherwise it's a data sucking battery hog that needs a good kick in the head.
I've had it with Google's endless big sister bs.
And... Firewall blocking with Karma Firewall does improve battery life if you block the apks I mentioned.
For the last 12 hours this is how much battery Karma used...
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
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GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
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Try it, it's easy enough to undo if it's problematic.
Google Play Services was literally polling the internet 4 times every minute at idle. Unacceptable.
jtlivio said:
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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Wifi is always disabled.