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Can someone please confirm for me: Does the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 work on a CDMA band with 3G? I see six of one half dozen of another answers for this.
Please and thank you.
zero7starz said:
Can someone please confirm for me: Does the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 work on a CDMA band with 3G? I see six of one half dozen of another answers for this.
Please and thank you.
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The I9000 is a GSM/HSDPA phone. It will NOT work on a CDMA network such as Sprint or Verizon in the US.
I believe your confusion is the difference between WCDMA and CDMA.
WCDMA is HSDPA. It is NOT CDMA, but a 3.5G sort of. It is a newer/different technology than CDMA.
CDMA uses a hardcoded ESN for connecting to the network.
WCDMA uses a SIM card for connecting to a network, making it much more similar to GSM than CDMA.
I hope this helps a bit.
the only 2 known model of actual CDMA bands for the Galaxy S is the Edge 4G version and the other version from China
Yes it answered my question. Thanks so much, both of you
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Electroz said:
The I9000 is a GSM/HSDPA phone. It will NOT work on a CDMA network such as Sprint or Verizon in the US.
I believe your confusion is the difference between WCDMA and CDMA.
WCDMA is HSDPA. It is NOT CDMA, but a 3.5G sort of. It is a newer/different technology than CDMA.
CDMA uses a hardcoded ESN for connecting to the network.
WCDMA uses a SIM card for connecting to a network, making it much more similar to GSM than CDMA.
I hope this helps a bit.
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Nice and definite answer, thank you.
PS: another "thank you" goes to forum administrators for the stackoverflow-like suggestions during thread posting.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/0...mobile-lte-next-week-followed-by-kansas-city/
Anyone know what sort of plans will change? I am in Vegas and I can't wait!
I feel they will unlock LTE to show of the network but who knows
I want to use the LTE already!
I believe a T-Mobile executive hinted that their LTE deployment would occur in the same order as their 1900 mhz refarming would. I wonder where NYC is on that list.
Glad they only care about the big cities Only get edge service where I live and work
Can Nexus 4 owners not do an network scan and find out if T-Mobile is testing LTE there? Just switch your phone to LTE in *#*#4636#*#* and do a network scan to see if anything shows up.
I dont see network scan when I do that code.
dpaul007 said:
Glad they only care about the big cities Only get edge service where I live and work
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+1 to that. My friends out here on AT&T get 3 & 4G.
Could you please use one of the existing T-Mobile threads to discuss this?
T-Mobile Nexus 4 thread [DISCUSSION] [NEWS]
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I see that the Sony mobile US site has the z3c listed as coming soon. Is it best to just wait for that to come out or will the European version fully support all of the AT&T bands? I'd hate to import a phone and not get the best reception/internet.
I know it was suggested in another thread that it would work with AT&T but then there was some confusion in another thread about the phone possibly missing 1 or 2 bands. Any help from an expert would be greatly appreciated.
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I know Sony's white papers have been wrong in the past (Z1 Compact with glass back, grrrr ) but the one for the Z3 Compact D5803 has 4G bands Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20.
I've had a hunt around for AT&T's 4G bands but this seems a but trickier as it seems dependent on region, going by wikipedia it looks like the main bands are 2, 4 and 17 which are all supported by the European version per the above. It probably doesn't help that I'm not from the US and I don't have enough posts to add the URLs, sorry.
I feel like I remember reading back in the day that some companies used bands of the same frequency that weren't cross compatible. It's always made me nervous about buying non US phones. However my info could be wrong.
When I was in the states, I got a AT&T sim card. My phone definitely says that it has the lte bands. Still, it only displayed h+ while I was there. I did not bother to go back to the store and check because the speed was very good anyway. So maybe it's because the bands are different or it was working on 4g but just not displaying it, I don't know.
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tudork said:
When I was in the states, I got a AT&T sim card. My phone definitely says that it has the lte bands. Still, it only displayed h+ while I was there. I did not bother to go back to the store and check because the speed was very good anyway. So maybe it's because the bands are different or it was working on 4g but just not displaying it, I don't know.
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AT&T must provision your sim for LTE otherwise you'll only receive 3G even if the phone is capable of 4G. Usually they do this based on the IMEI of your device and if it's a non AT&T phone then it won't appear in their database as LTE capable. There are ways for them to manually configure the sim for LTE by contacting support.
The UK model D5803 definitely supports AT&Ts LTE on bands 2, 4, and 17.
Does AT&T have more bands than 2,4,17?
I found when googling AT&T LTE bands that they apparently have also started to use band 5 (850mhz) but that's still supported by the Z3 compact. This was both on AT&T's forums and howardforums but I'm not sure if AT&T need to do something else to enable LTE support on that particular device. I think my own network (3 UK) has to do this as it took a few months for my unlocked Moto X to pick up their 4G network.
From AT&T: https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/byop.html
Refer to the manufacturer's website to verify your unlocked device works with a SIM card on an AT&T GSM network frequency:
• 3G UMTS network 850/1900MHz bands
• 4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
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AWS (1700/2100MHz) is band 4 (Blocks A, B, C, D, E)
700MHz is band 17 (blocks B, C)
850MHz is band 5
1900MHz is band 2
The overwhelming majority of AT&T LTE is on band 17. Bands 2 and 4 are used for additional capacity in some markets and/or some rural/smaller market coverage. I'm not sure they've rolled anything out on band 5 yet, but even so the Z3c has that covered.
OK,
thank you very much for the additional research. It seemed like that was the case but I don't trust my own opinion since I haven't done any real looking into this type of stuff in like 4 years.
derekmarch said:
OK,
thank you very much for the additional research. It seemed like that was the case but I don't trust my own opinion since I haven't done any real looking into this type of stuff in like 4 years.
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To answer your original question, as far as we know there is no US model of the Z3c, only the EU D5803 and Asia D5833. If Sony sells it unlocked in the US it will probably be the D5803.
In preparation, hopefully I'll have it in a week.
Programming non-AT&T devices with the correct APN and MMS data settings
Subscribing since I'm very interested in this phone and my service provider is AT&T
Works great. I live in both NY and San Francisco, and I get LTE everywhere on AT&T.
I imported the D5803 (EU) model through Expansys.
Yes. Just make sure to get the d5803 model.
Just wondering how did we know that our devices connected to LTE advance? or where should i enable it. In Samsung S7 Edge the sign in the status bar will show 4g+ when its connected to LTE advance, and only 4G when it is on Normal LTE.
In Xperia device it is like always show only LTE sign without anything like LTE+, or it should be somewhere to enable it anyone has a clues? please show your screen capture if you able to connected to it and how Thank you
I only have 4G icon all the time, never seen 4G+. I don't know why. Maybe because there's no LTE advamced around.
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tanipat said:
Just wondering how did we know that our devices connected to LTE advance? or where should i enable it. In Samsung S7 Edge the sign in the status bar will show 4g+ when its connected to LTE advance, and only 4G when it is on Normal LTE.
In Xperia device it is like always show only LTE sign without anything like LTE+, or it should be somewhere to enable it anyone has a clues? please show your screen capture if you able to connected to it and how Thank you
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What carrier are you with and where are you located?
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What carrier are you with and where are you located?
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I'm in Thailand and ww have 2 operators now support LTE-A which is TrueMoveH and AIS. attached is my TrueMoveH carrier with Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge you can see the plus sign just next to 4G means it is connected to 4G+ (4.5G LTEA whatever it called, but same tech of Carrier Aggregation AKA CA combine two band of 4g together to get the higher speed). Anyway speed wise for this post is slowww hahaha (notmally it is easily reach around 150-250mbps).
But my Xperia just show LTE and no any option to enable ot anywwhere so i would love for anyone to share in your country how it is looks when xperia x performance connected to 4G+ or any screen shot to enable it.
tanipat said:
I'm in Thailand and ww have 2 operators now support LTE-A which is TrueMoveH and AIS. attached is my TrueMoveH carrier with Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge you can see the plus sign just next to 4G means it is connected to 4G+ (4.5G LTEA whatever it called, but same tech of Carrier Aggregation AKA CA combine two band of 4g together to get the higher speed). Anyway speed wise for this post is slowww hahaha (notmally it is easily reach around 150-250mbps).
But my Xperia just show LTE and no any option to enable ot anywwhere so i would love for anyone to share in your country how it is looks when xperia x performance connected to 4G+ or any screen shot to enable it.
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Do you have the Truemove Sim card in your S7E and an AIS Sim in your Xperia or are both phones using Truemove?
Have you swapped the Sim cards to see if the Sim card in your S7E will provide the settings for Enhanced LTE?
I have read through several threads about the Xperia X Performance and found that some users don't have the options in their settings to enable Enhanced 4G LTE unless the Sim card they are using is provisioned for it from the carrier.
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fast69mopar said:
Do you have the Truemove Sim card in your S7E and an AIS Sim in your Xperia or are both phones using Truemove?
Have you swapped the Sim cards to see if the Sim card in your S7E will provide the settings for Enhanced LTE?
I have read through several threads about the Xperia X Performance and found that some users don't have the options in their settings to enable Enhanced 4G LTE unless the Sim card they are using is provisioned for it from the carrier.
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I can confirm this.
Its not the phone that enables 4G or LTE but the sim card.
If your sim doesnt support 4G etc, you wont be able to access it.
I have tested it myself with a new and old sim card on the xp.
1 sim only alowed 3G, while the new sim gave me 4G.
fast69mopar i try swap things and did not see anything.
XxKYNGxX Thank you for answer, what i mean is LTE adavance not 4G LTE. All my sim are running normal 4G LTE but my S7Edge running LTE advance (4G+)
tanipat said:
fast69mopar i try swap things and did not see anything.
XxKYNGxX Thank you for answer, what i mean is LTE adavance not 4G LTE. All my sim are running normal 4G LTE but my S7Edge running LTE advance (4G+)
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Okay. So, from everything I have read about TruemoveH and their networks, the Sony Xperia X Performance does support 3xCarrier Aggregation on their network. Even though the device supports CA and does work on their 3xCA there is not anything that will show up on the display to alert you when you are using it. The only thing that may give you a chance to see it is the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store. For example, here in the United States on Verizon networks, when I was connected to band 4 in my area, the LTE Discovery app listed band 4 as XLTE which is Verizon's was of telling customers they are using Advanced LTE. When you open the app, the LTE band is located in the top left box in the app. Below the band number could possibly show if you are actually using Advanced LTE. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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I see 4g+ sometimes but the speed is not noticeable as 4g is fast enough.
4g+ on European nordic ?
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any speed above 150mbps is LTE Advance.
Okay so i am not worrying about this anymore but in my openion they should show the most advance technology they got on screen for the user, like we have H and H+. We still got the best speed on towm on this device though
Thank you for all comments
tanipat said:
Okay so i am not worrying about this anymore but in my openion they should show the most advance technology they got on screen for the user, like we have H and H+. We still got the best speed on towm on this device though
Thank you for all comments
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If I remember, I think I did see H+ and H on my XP.
Guys, today i saw 4G+ icon on my XP for the first time. I suppose that was a LTE advanced itself.
I purchased D5833 unknowingly that it doesn't support LTE Band 4, the phone company use that band for LTE and now im stuck in 3G.
is there any way to add it to the D5833?? can I just flash the D5803 modem into the D5833??
thank you!
I just read in this thread that even if we enable that band it wont work due to hardware limitations. I have no option but to sell it and get the D5803:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/guide-unlock-z3c-international-bands-t3091344
thanks anyway.