Got my Gear VR yesterday from T-mobile, went to set it up on my Note 5 N9200, when the setup wizard opens, I hit next, the wizard tries to connect to the servers then returns the following error:
Error Occurred.
Network Error.
I spent all day on the line with Samsung support, they kept dropping my call, and finally told me to go to a Samsung experience center at Best Buy. Does anyone know how to correct this?
I have the same problem. Only thought is that my Note 5 is from Hong Kong so may be on a different firmware than US phones - hence the network error issue. Please let us know if you find a solution!
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I have the same problem. Only thought is that my Note 5 is from Hong Kong so may be on a different firmware than US phones - hence the network error issue. Please let us know if you find a solution!
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Mine is also from HK, assuming you also have an N9200? I really hope Samsung did not region-lock an accessory, that would be really horrible for early adopters...
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Mine is also from HK, assuming you also have an N9200? I really hope Samsung did not region-lock an accessory, that would be really horrible for early adopters...
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Yeah, the N9200. I opened up a support ticket to Oculus on this matter too. I don't think it's necessarily region locking, I think it's just they haven't pushed out the firmware for the HK phones to enable us to download oculus home.
Trying to figure out if there is any way to sideload the oculus home application but there's not much info out there since the new gear VR just came out a few days ago. Ugh, I was so excited to use it and then this...
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So, I thought I would give everyone a quick update, as I noticed there are people on a number of forums experiencing this issue. I spoke with Oculus, Samsung Hong Kong, and Samsung US (listed in order of helpfulness).
I learned that in spite of having Gear VR services, set up wizard, and other related software preloaded, the SM-N9200 still needs an update to set up Gear VR. Samsung Hong Kong claimed they did not know of any plans to release Gear VR in Hong Kong, which means anybody who bought an SM-N9200 likely just wasted 99.99 USD. Samsung's US support team knew nothing and was incredibly unhelpful, I'll leave it at that.
I'm very disappointed Samsung is maintaining a 1990's US carrier mindset, assuming we do not live in a connected world, and people would not purchase phones from other regions where they frequently travel. The HK version of the SM-N9200 is the only way for one to own a Note 5 and still have access to TD-LTE networks when they travel to China, as well as Google Services when outside of China, all without rooting.
I really hope Samsung stops punishing US-based SM-N9200 users for their loyalty, and pushes the update out to us ASAP.
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So, I thought I would give everyone a quick update, as I noticed there are people on a number of forums experiencing this issue. I spoke with Oculus, Samsung Hong Kong, and Samsung US (listed in order of helpfulness).
I learned that in spite of having Gear VR services, set up wizard, and other related software preloaded, the SM-N9200 still needs an update to set up Gear VR. Samsung Hong Kong claimed they did not know of any plans to release Gear VR in Hong Kong, which means anybody who bought an SM-N9200 likely just wasted 99.99 USD. Samsung's US support team knew nothing and was incredibly unhelpful, I'll leave it at that.
I'm very disappointed Samsung is maintaining a 1990's US carrier mindset, assuming we do not live in a connected world, and people would not purchase phones from other regions where they frequently travel. The HK version of the SM-N9200 is the only way for one to own a Note 5 and still have access to TD-LTE networks when they travel to China, as well as Google Services when outside of China, all without rooting.
I really hope Samsung stops punishing US-based SM-N9200 users for their loyalty, and pushes the update out to us ASAP.
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Well, that's a huge bummer. Time to return this $99 paperweight.
Wow, what a disappointment. Forgive my ignorance but there is no way to extract what we need from someone that has a U.S. note 5 and side load it?
I have the SM-N9200 , and I've managed to get the Oculus store installed but trying to launch anything brings me right back to the set up wizard.
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Wow, what a disappointment. Forgive my ignorance but there is no way to extract what we need from someone that has a U.S. note 5 and side load it?
I have the SM-N9200 , and I've managed to get the Oculus store installed but trying to launch anything brings me right back to the set up wizard.
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I'm sure there is, just a matter of time. Know anybody with a US Note 5 willing to help?
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I'm sure there is, just a matter of time. Know anybody with a US Note 5 willing to help?
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I've been looking to see if it's possible to install a custom rom that supports gear vr, but no custom roms for the 9200. At this point, I'm almost leaning towards selling my 9200 and buying an unlocked 920L or 920C...
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I've been looking to see if it's possible to install a custom rom that supports gear vr, but no custom roms for the 9200. At this point, I'm almost leaning towards selling my 9200 and buying an unlocked 920L or 920C...
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That's fine if you don't need TD-LTE, still not optimal though. I reckon sometime after thanksgiving the files will make there way to the internet and we can stick it to Samsung.
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That's fine if you don't need TD-LTE, still not optimal though. I reckon sometime after thanksgiving the files will make there way to the internet and we can stick it to Samsung.
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Actually, 9200 is the same model they sell in mainland china so I can't imagine them leaving that entire massive market. Let's hope a solution comes up soon.
I have a n920w8 and there's not even Gear VR in my list of apps in "application manager". Need some help.
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I have a n920w8 and there's not even Gear VR in my list of apps in "application manager". Need some help.
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What you can try doing is download the oculus mobile SDK from here:
https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/
Then copy the oculus cinema apk over to your phone and install it. When you run that app, it should trigger the oculus installation wizard. That's where I get stuck though, it just goes into a "Network Error" loop for me when I try to progress but maybe you'll have more luck with your model.
Noted, I'll give this a try. If that network error loop is the same one you were getting before, then I wonder if Samsung's servers are actually detecting and blocking devices based on model number? Samsung is really worse than Apple about this stuff...
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Noted, I'll give this a try. If that network error loop is the same one you were getting before, then I wonder if Samsung's servers are actually detecting and blocking devices based on model number? Samsung is really worse than Apple about this stuff...
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Most likely they are trying to download some low-level software based on the model number and there is nothing listed for our model - hence the "network error" message. Hopefully someone can share the required apk that we need for the fundamental software.
Anyone had any luck getting this working?
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Anyone had any luck getting this working?
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Nope, sadly I've been too busy to tinker around with this. Pretty much just waiting for an update or hoping somebody magically posts the correct software online...
Does anyone try to root their phone and change the build.prop file? e.g. Change the model number to G928F(Europe model )
I saw someone did these on their Note 4 and S6 which made the setup wizard run.
I haven't try it because there is no matured third party's ROMs so far.
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Does anyone try to root their phone and change the build.prop file? e.g. Change the model number to G928F(Europe model )
I saw someone did these on their Note 4 and S6 which made the setup wizard run.
I haven't try it because there is no matured third party's ROMs so far.
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I'm worried that this would have some seriously bad implications because the 9200 has a different modem chipset than the european/us models. That would probably work if the hardware was very similar and just had minor regional differences.
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I'm worried that this would have some seriously bad implications because the 9200 has a different modem chipset than the european/us models. That would probably work if the hardware was very similar and just had minor regional differences.
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Sorry, I didn't make that clear. You don't/can't flash in a firmware from another model in another region. What you do in the build.prop file is to simply change a name. Only thing you need is to get root on your current ROM.
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Just a word of warning for potential buyers that the region locking on the Samsung galaxy S5 is different to that on my Note 3. My note 3 is unlocked and can use different sims and software update without issues.
But had a Samsung Galaxy S5 for more than a week, got it before UK official launch as it was a Korean model 32GB LTE snapdragon version, it was unlocked and was able to use several different sims from various UK networks but couldnt software update as phone would keep asking for SKT (south korea telecom) sim for software update even though would work with other UK sims for calls data and text for more than a week of me using phone. worked fine for streaming thousands of songs via google music and deezer and calls and texts but no luck with software update. see alert shown by phone on attempting to do software update https://plus.google.com/108877366358490804054/posts/X38mPrxYHmf
wireless charging worked fine though with Qi insert as shown on my youtueb uploads for the S5 which can be seen from my tagline below
Just a heads up to people wanting to import a Samsung galaxy S5 from abroad that their region locking is getting worse with every new phone.
Dont have the S5 anymore and wont be buying a samsung phone again..... due to region locking blocking features... like fingerprint scanner use in ebay app in the UK even though unlocked phone and also samsung has blocked use of triple sim adapters as it has blocked the loading of sim app need for triple sim adapters to work. The same adapters work fine on my s4 and note 3. The adapter was inserted correctly as my main sim works through the adapter but cant access the extra sims as samsung has blocked the sim app from launching on the S5 but works fine on S4 and note 3 and other phones.
Not sure about internationally, however North America region lock seems to be disabled if you first activate with the carrier that the phone was built for and then unlock. If you just buy a phone from a carrier that has it region locked and you never activate it with them, you will have issues.
bubblesmoney said:
Just a word of warning for potential buyers that the region locking on the Samsung galaxy S5 is different to that on my Note 3. My note 3 is unlocked and can use different sims and software update without issues.
But had a Samsung Galaxy S5 for more than a week, got it before UK official launch as it was a Korean model 32GB LTE snapdragon version, it was unlocked and was able to use several different sims from various UK networks but couldnt software update as phone would keep asking for SKT (south korea telecom) sim for software update even though would work with other UK sims for calls data and text for more than a week of me using phone. worked fine for streaming thousands of songs via google music and deezer and calls and texts but no luck with software update. see alert shown by phone on attempting to do software update https://plus.google.com/108877366358490804054/posts/X38mPrxYHmf
wireless charging worked fine though with Qi insert as shown on my youtueb uploads for the S5 which can be seen from my tagline below
Just a heads up to people wanting to import a Samsung galaxy S5 from abroad that their region locking is getting worse with every new phone.
Dont have the S5 anymore and wont be buying a samsung phone again..... due to region locking blocking features... like fingerprint scanner use in ebay app in the UK even though unlocked phone and also samsung has blocked use of triple sim adapters as it has blocked the loading of sim app need for triple sim adapters to work. The same adapters work fine on my s4 and note 3. The adapter was inserted correctly as my main sim works through the adapter but cant access the extra sims as samsung has blocked the sim app from launching on the S5 but works fine on S4 and note 3 and other phones.
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Not sure about internationally, however North America region lock seems to be disabled if you first activate with the carrier that the phone was built for and then unlock. If you just buy a phone from a carrier that has it region locked and you never activate it with them, you will have issues.
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You have any way to unlock it with no issue in the future?
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Not sure about internationally, however North America region lock seems to be disabled if you first activate with the carrier that the phone was built for and then unlock. If you just buy a phone from a carrier that has it region locked and you never activate it with them, you will have issues.
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The phone is already unlocked as I used different UK sims For more than a week. The region locking only becomes apparent when trying to software update the phone. The phone was on Kitkat but there was an update available but couldn't update due to the issue mentioned.
If it is the international model (G900F) just flash it with the stock UK S5 rom.
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If it is the international model (G900F) just flash it with the stock UK S5 rom.
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Do you know if it's possible to root and flash something else without having removed the region lock?
Dont have the phone anymore with me and think the person having it now is flashing cyanogen mod rom for this phone.
Dont think will be getting a samsung phone again as tired of the pr1ck5 at samsung p1ssing off paying customers with some locking cr4p or the other. Presently still have 3 other samsung phones (S4 note 3 and note 1) and many of my playlists on youtube have loads of samsung phone related. But really fed up with samsungs locking idiocy and will look to sony or LG from now on.
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If it is the international model (G900F) just flash it with the stock UK S5 rom.
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I don't think the SK Telecom model is the same as the G900F.
I think Korea uses some different network brands.
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bubblesmoney said:
Dont have the phone anymore with me and think the person having it now is flashing cyanogen mod rom for this phone.
Dont think will be getting a samsung phone again as tired of the pr1ck5 at samsung p1ssing off paying customers with some locking cr4p or the other. Presently still have 3 other samsung phones (S4 note 3 and note 1) and many of my playlists on youtube have loads of samsung phone related. But really fed up with samsungs locking idiocy and will look to sony or LG from now on.
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Don't look at Sony.
You will receive software updates like 7 months after the release of that android version.
My Xperia Z still doesn't have kitkat.
Region lock on the 900A
I am looking to buy the galaxy s5 for use in several Sub-saharan African countries. I already have an old ATT sim with me and I will probably be ordering the 900A in/from the US and i want to make sure that the region-lock is not an issue. Will i be able to region unlock with an ATT sim card while in Africa or do i need to have someone make the 5min call for me while the phone is in the US? and is this call meant to be to or from the s5?
Thanks!
No one likes self serving restrictions by manufacturers or carriers. But Samsung is far from the only manufacturer doing things like this. And region locking is one of the easiest obstacles to overcome.
On single SIM phones at least removing the subsidy lock nullifies the region lock as well. In any event if you couldn't make a few calls in the area that the phone originated, you could simply have edited the region lock blacklist to circumvent the region lock.
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bubblesmoney said:
Dont think will be getting a samsung phone again as tired of the pr1ck5 at samsung p1ssing off paying customers with some locking cr4p or the other. Presently still have 3 other samsung phones (S4 note 3 and note 1) and many of my playlists on youtube have loads of samsung phone related. But really fed up with samsungs locking idiocy and will look to sony or LG from now on.
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yes that completely legal regioin lock this discourages grey market selling and scams
does this mean you arent buying blu rays or DVDs??
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yes that completely legal regioin lock this discourages grey market selling and scams
does this mean you arent buying blu rays or DVDs??
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I had the S5 but no longer have it. Bought the one plus one which is half the price but 64gb and miles better with no region locking crap and call recording apps work on it unlike on my several samsung phones. Call recording apps did work earlier on samsung phones and after software upgrades by samsung they no longer work on them. But they work on other android phones. So samsung is deliberately gimping android with their "updates". Sane way triple sim adapters don't work on the S5 but they do on my s4 and note 3 and other phones.
Coming to your reference to dvd and bluray. .. i don't but them anymore as have several paid digital subscription packages and don't buy dvd and bluray anymore as realised i haven't bothered to open the packs of several of my earlier purchases.
Several other android manufacturers don't region lock or block call recording apps or triple sim adapters so there are better and cheaper options.
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I had the S5 but no longer have it. Bought the one plus one which is half the price but 64gb and miles better with no region locking crap and call recording apps work on it unlike on my several samsung phones. Call recording apps did work earlier on samsung phones and after software upgrades by samsung they no longer work on them. But they work on other android phones. So samsung is deliberately gimping android with their "updates". Sane way triple sim adapters don't work on the S5 but they do on my s4 and note 3 and other phones.
Coming to your reference to dvd and bluray. .. i don't but them anymore as have several paid digital subscription packages and don't buy dvd and bluray anymore as realised i haven't bothered to open the packs of several of my earlier purchases.
Several other android manufacturers don't region lock or block call recording apps or triple sim adapters so there are better and cheaper options.
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did you research if the s5 was region locked, or had issues with call recording apps or sim adapater issues before you bought it. or did you buy it assuming they would work?
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did you research if the s5 was region locked, or had issues with call recording apps or sim adapater issues before you bought it. or did you buy it assuming they would work?
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I did research like i do all my purchases. My opinions are just that. ... my opinions!
Are you a Samsung employee or funded by samsung in any manner!
edit: If you see my youtube videos for the S5 you might notice that i had uploaded my video BEFORE the UK release date as it was imported from korea.
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I did research like i do all my purchases. My opinions are just that. ... my opinions!
Are you a Samsung employee or funded by samsung in any manner!
edit: If you see my youtube videos for the S5 you might notice that i had uploaded my video BEFORE the UK release date as it was imported from korea.
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region locking isnt an opinion. its an actual thing
heres my point
you want to buy a phone, you want it to have multi sim adapters support, no region locking and ability to record in calls.
you do your research like you do "all your purchases"
then you buy a device knowing these things wont work. then you ***** about samsung doing it anyway?
Dude pull that bee out of your bonnet. Dint you have anything better to do than dig up a few months old thread of mine!
Triple sim adapters work on the S4 and note 3.
Call recording apps do work on android phones and even older samsung phones and other new android phones and don't work on new or software updated older samsung phones.
Yes i know what region locking is.
I now choose to spend my money on other companies android products which i think are better. If that bothers you then that is not my problem. I have better things to do today than argue on the Internet with someone i don't know.
Good night.
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Dude pull that bee out of your bonnet. Dint you have anything better to do than dig up a few months old thread of mine! .
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I didnt actually dig it up, read back a page
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Triple sim adapters work on the S4 and note 3.
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But research you said you did said it wouldnt on the s5
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Call recording apps do work on android phones and even older samsung phones and other new android phones and don't work on new or software updated older samsung phones.
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But you said you did research so you knew this
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Yes i know what region locking is.
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No one said you didn't. ever
bubblesmoney said:
I now choose to spend my money on other companies android products which i think are better. If that bothers you then that is not my problem. I have better things to do today than argue on the Internet with someone i don't know.
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My issue isnt with you buying anything. my issue is with you being such a vocal detester of certain features or lack thereof, when you bought them knowing full well they had these things wrong with them because you did the proper research.
why would you even buy a phone that you know wont work the way you want, better yet why moan about samsung doing this. even though you knew they did it before you bought it
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One last time. .. my trile sim adapters did work then on my note 3 and S4 but they didn't on the s5. That was my experience as I hadn't come across posts regarding that it didn't work on the S5. The adapter actually 'works' on the s5 too in the sense that the sim number 1 works via the connector but the other sims can't be used as samsung blocks the launch of the sim app but it doesn't get blocked on older samsung phones. Ps. they work on iPhones and other android phones.
Getting to call recording apps. . They did work on s4 and note 3 and stopped working on note 3 after software updates. Sometimes software have glitches so I gave them the benefit of the doubt but since on the newer s5 it didn't work either and works on other new android phones like my one plus one it is my understanding that samsung is blocking some features which you can gather if you read up more on the topic.
As explained AGAIN above and
in my personal experience the triple sim adapters worked in s4 and note 3 (but not after software update indicating it is samsung doing the blocking) and didn't work on the s5.
Call recording still works on loads of android phones including my one plus one. It used to work on my older samsung phones till later software updates and didn't Work on the S5.
If you need more of my reasons why I think the are better ones out there than the S5....
water proofing is **** as shown in my videos. Sony is better.
Internal memory is loads better on cheaper phones like the one plus one.
Camera is worse than much cheaper one plus one.
Speaker is much louder on the one plus one.
Battery life "without cutting back any features" is better on the one plus one. But would be better on s5 using that black and white ultra power saving mode which stops many features working.
Edit. I still have my note 3 and note 1 and s4 but I do like my gadgets and have other 6 android phones, 5 android tablets and 2 android mini pc's and ipad air. So after owning the and using many other android devices which I no longer have my personal impression of the S5 is that there are better ones out there.
If the above bothers you then not much I can do but say agree to disagree. Cheers.
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I am looking to buy the galaxy s5 for use in several Sub-saharan African countries. I already have an old ATT sim with me and I will probably be ordering the 900A in/from the US and i want to make sure that the region-lock is not an issue. Will i be able to region unlock with an ATT sim card while in Africa or do i need to have someone make the 5min call for me while the phone is in the US? and is this call meant to be to or from the s5?
Thanks!
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Ignore some of the apologists for Samsung on this thread trying to pester people who purchase their own android devices unlike the usual reviewers on many websites who get their free review phones and do your own research before spending your money.
Word of warning even when buying an unlocked or no region lock samsung phone in a country with no region lock, it can subsequently get region lock if you do any software updates while traveling or moving to another country with region lock as shown long time ago in the Note 3 thread (thread with hundreds of posts) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47664261&postcount=1380 As you can see paying customers who bought unlocked (no region lock phones) samsung phone later got region lock with software update while travelling and working in the Eu and their phone would no longer work with their home country sim. Please note phone was bought from official samsung store and not so called grey market what ever that term grey market may mean! So any person who travels and works across countries or even travelling abroad and wants to use roaming or local sims would be at risk of region lock unless they never want to update their phone or need to resort to hacking the software which most wont be able to do.
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So I just bought a 920i version from eBay (monoprice store). Brand new unlocked. I am on at&t. Downloaded the Samsung pay apk and after signing into my Samsung account via Samsung Pay. After signing in I am getting this message "You must use your own Samsung Account to use Samsung Pay". Well, it is my own account.
So question: Has anyone got Samsung Pay working on N920I with a US carrier (more specifically at&t). Do you have a solution to this problem? Thanks in advance!
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So I just bought a 920i version from eBay (monoprice store). Brand new unlocked. I am on at&t. Downloaded the Samsung pay apk and after signing into my Samsung account via Samsung Pay. After signing in I am getting this message "You must use your own Samsung Account to use Samsung Pay". Well, it is my own account.
So question: Has anyone got Samsung Pay working on N920I with a US carrier (more specifically at&t). Do you have a solution to this problem? Thanks in advance!
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I'm in the same boat. I've got an SM-N920I that I'm using on AT&T. It's from Australia, with a region code of XSA (meaning sold SIM-free from general retail channels, not from a carrier).
Unfortunately, it's more involved than just installing an APK. In addition to just the app, there are library files that need to be placed on the system partition. Even if you get those libraries on there, you may still run into problems.
In my case, Samsung has said they're planning on launching Samsung Pay in Australia in the first quarter of 2016, so I'm happy to just wait for a software update to my phone that enables it. If your N920I is from Singapore, New Zealand, or Papua New Guinea, there's no telling how long it might be before Samsung launches it in those countries. So, if Samsung Pay matters a lot to you, I'd say to just flash some Australia firmware, and just wait for a software update early in 2016.
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I'm in the same boat. I've got an SM-N920I that I'm using on AT&T. It's from Australia, with a region code of XSA (meaning sold SIM-free from general retail channels, not from a carrier).
Unfortunately, it's more involved than just installing an APK. In addition to just the app, there are library files that need to be placed on the system partition. Even if you get those libraries on there, you may still run into problems.
In my case, Samsung has said they're planning on launching Samsung Pay in Australia in the first quarter of 2016, so I'm happy to just wait for a software update to my phone that enables it. If your N920I is from Singapore, New Zealand, or Papua New Guinea, there's no telling how long it might be before Samsung launches it in those countries. So, if Samsung Pay matters a lot to you, I'd say to just flash some Australia firmware, and just wait for a software update early in 2016.
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Oh wow! Its much more screwed than I thought. Samsung Pay has been getting a lot of good feedback and I started getting excited about it, until I saw your correct explanation. Thanks!
How about my version of n920i? Will I get it or should I flash another official rom? If yes..... Which one? Thanks
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How about my version of n920i? Will I get it or should I flash another official rom? If yes..... Which one? Thanks
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I can't tell by that. Open the file /system/CSCInfo.txt and tell me what it says.
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I'm not rooted... Is there any other way?
You don't need to be rooted. You should be able to open that file using the file manager app of your choice.
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I'm not rooted... Is there any other way?
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Dial *#1234#
look at CSC
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Dial *#1234#
look at CSC
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I had no idea you could do that! haha
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I had no idea you could do that! haha
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Just found the way this morning googling around. I'm on XSA as well.
It sucks that you can't have best of all worlds, even after paying for an unlocked device in full. I wanted timely Samsung updates (no go at&t). I wanted tethering without rooting (no go at&t). I wanted Unlocked. All good with N920i and then I REALLY want the Samsung Pay....f***. Don't even know I will have the phone until the Q1 2016.
Here it is...
What firmware can I install in order to have samsung pay
ajayendra said:
Just found the way this morning googling around. I'm on XSA as well.
It sucks that you can't have best of all worlds, even after paying for an unlocked device in full. I wanted timely Samsung updates (no go at&t). I wanted tethering without rooting (no go at&t). I wanted Unlocked. All good with N920i and then I REALLY want the Samsung Pay....f***. Don't even know I will have the phone until the Q1 2016.
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Well, here's the problem. Samsung does not sell unlocked, SIM-free devices at general retail in the US. The only way to get an unlocked Samsung device here is to buy one from an importer like Expansys or one of the countless eBay sellers who get them.
Because of that situation, the game is changed a bit. Yes, we're buying an unlocked device, but we're buying one that was not intended for use in the US. Its radio bands, apps, etc. are all tailored toward the country or region where the device was originally intended to be sold. Notice how there's a video call button in the phone app? No US carrier supports that. Notice how the phone supports LTE-A, but not on the AT&T band pairs? That's because it's tweaked to use the LTE-A band pairs that carriers in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore use. As for the ROM and apps, if you're on XSA as well, then you know. The ROM is as light and bare as a Samsung ROM is going to get, but it's still intended for Australia. So, until Samsung Pay launches in Australia, I think we're out of luck. :/
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Here it is...
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What firmware can I install in order to have samsung pay
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Samsung Pay is not presently available on any N920I firmware. Judging from your CSC, you're running one of the Singapore firmware variants. But, if you want to get it the fastest, I'd recommend flashing the Australia firmware. The N920I is only sold in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, and Papua New Guinea. Of all those countries, Australia is the only one where Samsung has actually said that they plan on launching Pay (right now, Q1 2016). So, once it launches in Australia, you'd get a software update that would enable Samsung Pay.
So in theory, if we flash a Tmobile firmware, will Pay work? Will have the bloatware but I'm not too worried about bloat. Can be disabled with Package Disabler Pro
Edit: Sorry, I was stupid. the two have different model numbers.
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Well, here's the problem. Samsung does not sell unlocked, SIM-free devices at general retail in the US. The only way to get an unlocked Samsung device here is to buy one from an importer like Expansys or one of the countless eBay sellers who get them.
Because of that situation, the game is changed a bit. Yes, we're buying an unlocked device, but we're buying one that was not intended for use in the US. Its radio bands, apps, etc. are all tailored toward the country or region where the device was originally intended to be sold. Notice how there's a video call button in the phone app? No US carrier supports that. Notice how the phone supports LTE-A, but not on the AT&T band pairs? That's because it's tweaked to use the LTE-A band pairs that carriers in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore use. As for the ROM and apps, if you're on XSA as well, then you know. The ROM is as light and bare as a Samsung ROM is going to get, but it's still intended for Australia. So, until Samsung Pay launches in Australia, I think we're out of luck. :/
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Samsung Pay is not presently available on any N920I firmware. Judging from your CSC, you're running one of the Singapore firmware variants. But, if you want to get it the fastest, I'd recommend flashing the Australia firmware. The N920I is only sold in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, and Papua New Guinea. Of all those countries, Australia is the only one where Samsung has actually said that they plan on launching Pay (right now, Q1 2016). So, once it launches in Australia, you'd get a software update that would enable Samsung Pay.
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So in theory, if we flash a Tmobile firmware, will Pay work? Will have the bloatware but I'm not too worried about bloat. Can be disabled with Package Disabler Pro
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Not going to happen. You're dealing with two completely different model of phones. The T-Mobile firmware is for SM-N920T. We have an SM-N920I. You cannot flash N920T firmware on an N920I. Odin and the phone's security policy won't allow it.
What a damn disappointment..... Vodafone wallet it's not working because note 5 was not officially launched in many countries so it won't get certified soon.... Android pay is only for USA, samsung pay also.... What a f*cking joke.... I was hoping to pay with my phone. What's the point of a flagship smartphone when certain apps and features I can't use....
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What a damn disappointment..... Vodafone wallet it's not working because note 5 was not officially launched in many countries so it won't get certified soon.... Android pay is only for USA, samsung pay also.... What a f*cking joke.... I was hoping to pay with my phone. What's the point of a flagship smartphone when certain apps and features I can't use....
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It's not that cut and dry. The way Android Pay and Samsung Pay work, they have to work with local banks in each individual country. One worldwide mass rollout just isn't feasible. There's way too much legal and political risk.
Really? That's your explanation? Come on bro.... Google wallet is available for years... It never came to Europe, and Android Pay will never come also.
I don't know your country of origin but.... I sent 2 weeks ago over 1000€ to get the note 5.... And I'm just sick and tired of waiting to use certain features.
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Seeing that the t-mobile version will get the update for Samsung pay..... Cand I install that firmware?
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Really? That's your explanation? Come on bro.... Google wallet is available for years... It never came to Europe, and Android Pay will never come also.
I don't know your country of origin but.... I sent 2 weeks ago over 1000€ to get the note 5.... And I'm just sick and tired of waiting to use certain features.
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Seeing that the t-mobile version will get the update for Samsung pay..... Cand I install that firmware?
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Go back a page and read what i said about that.
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What's the point of flashing the Australian firmware when I should wait until Q1 2016? I kinda want it now
Unfortunately in the UK, the only way to get the Deep Sea Blue variant would be to buy the N9500. I understand that this was built specifically for China markets, but it should have the right network frequencies for the UK. I was just wondering if anyone has bought one of these before, and whether there's any quirks in the device compared to the UK model? Cheers
Using Note8 N-9500 for 3 weeks now
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Unfortunately in the UK, the only way to get the Deep Sea Blue variant would be to buy the N9500. I understand that this was built specifically for China markets, but it should have the right network frequencies for the UK. I was just wondering if anyone has bought one of these before, and whether there's any quirks in the device compared to the UK model? Cheers
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Yes. Note 8 N-9500 is Hong Kong/China version. I have been using it for 3 weeks now, but I would not recommend it.
I have Hong Kong version. (China version doesn't support Google Play Store. Avoid it!)
Here are some negative things that I found out so far.
1. It works perfectly with UK network frequencies, however, you can't enable VoLTE or wifi cailling.
This is really downside. it keeps saying my current software does not support VoLTE.
2. It doesn't have Samsung Pass. Some apps require it to log in with your bio info (cf. finger print etc.), so it is bit annoying.
3. Android Pay works fine.
I have not use Samsung Pay yet, but Samsung Pay is registered as Hong Kong so you will get promotions from Hong Kong market only and you can't change it.
4. If you contact customer service through handset it automatically connect with Samsung Hong Kong Service centre. ha ha
I have tried to change it with other CSC roms such as Europe versions, but Note 8 N-9500 uses Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 not Exynos as Europe or Korean version.
At this point as far as I know it is impossible to use other CSC roms.
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Yes. Note 8 N-9500 is Hong Kong/China version. I have been using it for 3 weeks now, but I would not recommend it.
I have Hong Kong version. (China version doesn't support Google Play Store. Avoid it!)
Here are some negative things that I found out so far.
1. It works perfectly with UK network frequencies, however, you can't enable VoLTE or wifi cailling.
This is really downside. it keeps saying my current software does not support VoLTE.
2. It doesn't have Samsung Pass. Some apps require it to log in with your bio info (cf. finger print etc.), so it is bit annoying.
3. Android Pay works fine.
I have not use Samsung Pay yet, but Samsung Pay is registered as Hong Kong so you will get promotions from Hong Kong market only and you can't change it.
4. If you contact customer service through handset it automatically connect with Samsung Hong Kong Service centre. ha ha
I have tried to change it with other CSC roms such as Europe versions, but Note 8 N-9500 uses Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 not Exynos as Europe or Korean version.
At this point as far as I know it is impossible to use other CSC roms.
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Have you managed to flash Europe firmware successfully?
I've also got N9500 deep sea blue, the only reason I bought this version was for the colour!
I quite like it but would like to have volte
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No I haven't. As far as I know EU firmware doesn't work with this SM-N9500.
I ask some questions to Samsung customer service Hong Kong, but I haven't got the answer yet.
If I do, I will post it here. cheers!
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Unfortunately in the UK, the only way to get the Deep Sea Blue variant would be to buy the N9500. I understand that this was built specifically for China markets, but it should have the right network frequencies for the UK. I was just wondering if anyone has bought one of these before, and whether there's any quirks in the device compared to the UK model? Cheers
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I have the China variant of the N9500 in Deep sea blue
I I've had it for 3 months with no problems. I saw from one of the other posts that there had been some issues they had found with theirs. Just to comment on mine Samsung pay initially wouldn't let me load a card and work but now it works fine with no issues. Google play was installed and works without issue also. Unfortunately I have not been able to get VoLTE or WiFi calling to work as the firmware installed does not support the former and the latter, I'm still trying to get to work, but neither I or EE can come up with a reason why it doesn't. I've also not been able to install a European /UK firmware due to the Exynos/qualcom incompatability issue. mind you there are only a few reasons why you'd want to install the firmware as the phone works fine with the firmware installed bar the issues I've mentioned and f you can live without WiFi calling or VoLTE then there's no reason to use it. They are a great bit of kit as I they come with a much larger internal storage than is available over here. This was the reason I got mine in the first place as I store loads of books and music as well as videos and as an amateur photographer alongside my DSLR I still use this for photos as the shots are quite comparable in lots of cases. I hope this has helped, oh and one more thing, I i got mine new from a online phone store via ebay I ended up paying about £750-800 for it which was cheaper than the lower storage version that you can get in the UK so that's another plus
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I have the China variant of the N9500 in Deep sea blue
I I've had it for 3 months with no problems. I saw from one of the other posts that there had been some issues they had found with theirs. Just to comment on mine Samsung pay initially wouldn't let me load a card and work but now it works fine with no issues. Google play was installed and works without issue also. Unfortunately I have not been able to get VoLTE or WiFi calling to work as the firmware installed does not support the former and the latter, I'm still trying to get to work, but neither I or EE can come up with a reason why it doesn't. I've also not been able to install a European /UK firmware due to the Exynos/qualcom incompatability issue. mind you there are only a few reasons why you'd want to install the firmware as the phone works fine with the firmware installed bar the issues I've mentioned and f you can live without WiFi calling or VoLTE then there's no reason to use it. They are a great bit of kit as I they come with a much larger internal storage than is available over here. This was the reason I got mine in the first place as I store loads of books and music as well as videos and as an amateur photographer alongside my DSLR I still use this for photos as the shots are quite comparable in lots of cases. I hope this has helped, oh and one more thing, I i got mine new from a online phone store via ebay I ended up paying about £750-800 for it which was cheaper than the lower storage version that you can get in the UK so that's another plus
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No volte is a biggie for some.
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i wonder if the wifi calling would work on the proper csc for n9500's or if like my provider, regardless of what mods are done to the phone's software, if its not a device purchased from them, they black list imei. well i should say they white list theirs and simply block everything else.
people on rooted 9500:
have you manualy extracted csc from relevant provider firmware and copyed to system/omc?
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No volte is a biggie for some.
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/ appreciate that it must a deal breaker for some out. there .I guess its just never been such a huge issue for me really. Its the inactive wifi calling that's the pain in the rear for me. It's not that
its not working that annoys me the most, its more
that there is no actual reason why it shouldn't work. that's the most annoying thing. its just so usefull to have.
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Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
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It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
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Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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I asked because I have not seen a thread with that question. But, my apologies if they bother here to.
In my case, and where I work, it has never bothered me that they ask me the same thing, because I like to help people.
Thanks!
As far as I now, S9 and S9+ snapdragon versions are still not rooted.
There is at least 1 guy searching for root but so far, no progress.
So, maybe s845 Note 9 will get root someday but don't have high hopes about that and if root really matter to you, I will advise you to buy another phone.
I strongly advise buying the exynos version now, or buying another device if updates and such will be a big deal. I had the same concerns, this is my first unrooted Android device I am considering purchasing, and I have to make the decision based on what is most probable, root not being an option. Otherwise, you'll be pissed the entire time you have the device that you let yourself fall into the hope trap.
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I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! ?
I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
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I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! [emoji3]
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I asked the OP of that thread a month ago and he confirmed that that root method can not be done on the S9, S9+ or NOTE9, which means that the device will most likely never be rooted, unless Samsung suddenly, randomly, allows for the bootloader to be unlocked.
I upgraded to the Snapdragon Note9 anyway though myself. I found that I didn't really miss root all that much on my Note8 and didn't want my battery on my new phone to only charge to 80% by using SamFAIL, so I just got the non-carrier branded one this time to cut down on some of the bloat. I could've went Exynos, but in the past I'd mainly only used root to put other roms on the device and maybe clear out some space, but the Note9 comes with 128gb internal minimum with the potential of an up to 512gb sd card, which is plenty of space for me to just disable a few apps. Most of the roms too most often didn't have the air command features for the spen(or most of the other functionality that Samsung devices are supposed to have) and the pen is why I buy the Notes in the first place. The ones that did try and incorporate those features(including the Touchwiz roms) always still had other problems too, so I most often found myself going back to stock anyway.
Frankly, it's just been nice having a device where Samsung Pay and everything else just works. I've had the unrootable Snapdragon Note9 for a month now and I love it. It has tons of features that the Note8 didn't have, like an spen that works as a wireless bluetooth remote for your camera, music and other apps, as well as more space, a better battery and more. That's just my take though.
galdypr said:
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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Not so much bothered by questions (even if they have been asked 100 times over like this one lol) more so people refuse to use the search function.
If you had of done so you wouldn't have needed to even ask.
Dont be afraid to try and help yourself sometimes, its not that painful.
But yeah as the guys said....never going to happen
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
galdypr said:
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
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The USA version is never going to see root.
I didn't understand what you said about the exynos other than your selling it? Why?
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I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
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Carrier companies do not have control over bootloader locks. I have tried going through them in the past about this and they have no clue what you are talking about unless you get lucky and get a person that knows about root and even if that does happen they can't and won't help you with it. It has to be done by manufacturers.
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Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
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Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
Forgetting N960U and N960U1! I bought N960N!! And my problem resolved! Finally I got root!! ?
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Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
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Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
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Personally how I verify bands used it to go to samsungs website for that country to check specs for a particular model number.
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After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
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After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
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I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
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I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
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Thank You AFewLads for bringing this issue to the fore and potentially saving me a lot of money !!! Btw, just for my curiosity (and probably a few others), what did you do with your S8 then ?