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Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
buzmay said:
Hi,
I know this has been discussed in several ocassions, and I have read several threads but none of them answer my question.
I am wondering if I root my HTC One and keep the device with the stock rom (I only want to root for some apps that needs su) will I be able to get OTA updates?
If not, if I also do S-OFF will I be able to? Please keep in mind that I do not want to flash a custom rom, where then the answer I believe would be to unroot and apply the OTA.
Thank you
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No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
IINexusII said:
No, and youll need a custom kernel with disabled write protection for the root to stick, which will not allow OTA's to work. if you really want root, download a custom stock rom
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But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
buzmay said:
But what about S-OFF not even with it it would work? I am confuse because I saw a guide here in XDA saying the following:
Rooting stock ROM
What you need to know before rooting stock ROM:
You can "un-root" it easily.
As long as you won't change any files on system partition, you still will be able to download and install official OTA updates.
Download Rooting Tools
Boot your device in recovery mode (power off the device and turn it on using power + vol down buttons and select "RECOVERY")
In main menu, select "install zip from sdcard" and "choose zip from sdcard".
Navigate to the location of Rooting Tools (zip) package and confirm flashing procedure.
After flashing process is complete, reboot the device. Your device has now SuperUser.apk, su binary and busybox installed.
So is this not true?
Link to this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
farang4u said:
Having S-off won't effect OTAs but having a custom recovery will. Best to go all stock, rom and recovery to receive the OTA updates. You can root after.
Note: Do the S-off procedure before you update. If your hboot gets updated, you're outta luck.
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Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
buzmay said:
Ok, but now for instance I do have 4.2.2 so if I root and then there is an update 4.3 then what? I am interested in being only root and being able to get the updates. So every time an OTA comes I shall unroot and then root? This option is not as optimal as I would have though it would be.
Thanks
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As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
farang4u said:
As long as you have a stock recovery and rom, you should be able to receive OTAs on a rooted phone. Not %100 certain though.
Note: An OTA update could break the root and other mods you made to the rom and cause some other issues.
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But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
buzmay said:
But how can I have a stock recovery and be root? Dont I need a custome recovery to root?
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You need custom recovery to run the rooting process. After your system is rooted you can then flash back to the stock recovery. You should still have root access but I could be wrong. Download "Root Checker" from the play store, run it to see if your device is still rooted. You still need a stock recovery to receive OTA updates though.
The reason you need stock recovery is that you can't install an official update with custom recovery. The type of recovery you have doesn't affect root access.
The reason you have to keep your system files perfectly stock is that an OTA is a patch, meaning it doesn't necessarily replace entire files but mainly snippets of code. If the system files are not stock, it can't do this properly. So it checks /system before running and stops if things are not perfectly stock.
You can get OTAs being rooted, you just can't install them unless you have stock recovery and a fully stock rom.
If you're stock on 4.2.2 right now, you can't s-off, so don't worry about that.
You don't have to flash a custom rom, but you can flash a stock rooted rom. With OTAs, you play the cat-and-mouse game. Can I root it? Did the HBOOT update and kill current S-OFF procedures?
If 4.3 does come out, all you would have to do is wait for a few days for a dev to cook a stock rooted 4.3 rom. AT&T always lags with updates, yet I have a fully functioning 4.2.2 M7 with LTE and no AT&T bloat all thanks to the devs who cook stock rooted roms.
Hey all,
I've been receiving notifications for the OTA for a few days now, and I certainly would like to update my Moto X. That being said, OTA fails since I have a rooted device, go figure.
Anyways, my plan of action is to back uo everything, unroot using SuperSU, apply the update (still on stock recovery), and then re-root on the other side.
Has anyone gone about this route yet? Does this all sound like it should work? Also, it's been a while since I've modded my X, so any new rooting methods for 5.1 that people have tried and succeeded with?
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Not only do you need to unroot, you have to undo any modifications you made with root. As long as you can do that the update will work.
If you can't get it back to unmodified, you will have to flash a stock system image.
As far as root, the process is the same for 4.4.4, 5.0, and 5.1. Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you, or flash supersu zip. Very easy.
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As far as root, the process is the same for 4.4.4, 5.0, and 5.1. Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you, or flash supersu zip. Very easy.
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I originally rooted 5.0. To get the OTA I had to unroot and reflash the stock recovery. After that the OTA applied fine.
The main reason I rooted was for Greenify. I'm now unrooted on 5.1 and my battery sucks. I want to think that Greenify actually works so I would like to root 5.1. As mentioned I have rooted before but am still very much a novice. You state "Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you". I think I have saw in the forums that if I boot into twrp it will actually leave the stock recovery? I really don't want to do anything except root so that I can install Greenify again. I want to make as easy as possible to take the next OTA. If booting into twrp will allow this, is there a link to a simple process? There is so much information out there and most of it is dated so it scares me that it might not work on 5.1. Thanks.
summit15 said:
As far as root, the process is the same for 4.4.4, 5.0, and 5.1. Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you, or flash supersu zip. Very easy.
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I originally rooted 5.0. To get the OTA I had to unroot and reflash the stock recovery. After that the OTA applied fine.
The main reason I rooted was for Greenify. I'm now unrooted on 5.1 and my battery sucks. I want to think that Greenify actually works so I would like to root 5.1. As mentioned I have rooted before but am still very much a novice. You state "Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you". I think I have saw in the forums that if I boot into twrp it will actually leave the stock recovery? I really don't want to do anything except root so that I can install Greenify again. I want to make as easy as possible to take the next OTA. If booting into twrp will allow this, is there a link to a simple process? There is so much information out there and most of it is dated so it scares me that it might not work on 5.1. Thanks.
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Yes, if you just boot it, the stock recovery stays on the phone. No need to flash TWRP. Download version 2.8.5.0! The newer versions don't boot, the new ones can only be flashed. With 2.8.5.0 type:
fastboot boot twrpfilenamehere.img
Then you will be in twrp and can root.
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AGISCI said:
Not only do you need to unroot, you have to undo any modifications you made with root. As long as you can do that the update will work.
If you can't get it back to unmodified, you will have to flash a stock system image.
As far as root, the process is the same for 4.4.4, 5.0, and 5.1. Just boot into twrp and let it root it for you, or flash supersu zip. Very easy.
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Sorry about the late reply, thanks! I still have my stock recovery, and have been pretty lazy about installing busy box or xposed or any other fun things. I'll probably muster up the courage this week. After all, I've killed and resurrected this thing once before
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I've searched and researched. I'm not finding a matching thread/procedure for my situation. I've never rooted before so I wanted to make sure I was following the right procedure. Thanks in advance for any help.
I'm currently running stock recently updated AT&T 5.0 N900AUCUEOC2. I don't care if I remove stock apps and I'd prefer not to trip odin if possible. Backups of all my files have already been done manually and I'm ready for a reset/wipe.
Is it safe for me to follow the procedure for oc1 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/update-procedure-lollipop-5-0-oc1-t3063760?
What is the difference between wipe and non-wipe tars?
Will it force OTA update to OC2 after I do root procedure for OC1? Will OC2 be rooted afterwards?
Is someone working on a procedure for OC2?
I've had the same problem and haven't been able to root. Someone should try to work on this I'm sure we're not the only ones
Ditto, Att note 3 running oc2. I've tried odin and a few one click programs with no luck.
Have anyone found a way to root OC2?
There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), Root, install safestrap and busybox, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
Hitmizzle said:
There are many posts explaining how to root. Unfortunately, I don't think It can't be done while on lollipop. None of the popular root tools work on lollipop (kingoroot/towelroot). You have to odin back to NC2 (Kitkat), root, then you can install OC2 in safestrap via a pre-rooted OC2 ROM or backup.
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Hitmizzle, you summarized very well :good: - I also spent days trying to find a root method on OC2 but to no avail. Eventually I ended up restoring to NC2, rooted, then installed a pre-rooted OC2 as you described. I think the admin should bookmark your post so as to save much time for other people.
OC2 OTA
I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
sibenj said:
I'm running OC1 rooted and got a notification for an update which I assume is OC2. If I take that OTA update will I lose root on my device?
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Yes, assuming the update doesn't fail. If you want OC2, there's a rooted OC2 ROM update at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
I am using a rooted moto g 2014. I have an ota update notification. how to install the the ota update? I'm using twrp 2.8.6.0 custom recovery.
You need to go back to stock recovery to install the updates. However the update might fail on a rooted phone and you might need to unroot it. Also you need to remove rooted apps like xposed to have a successful OTA. For a smooth OTA, I would suggest you move back to stock ROM and recovery and then OTA update.
pank.dhnd said:
You need to go back to stock recovery to install the updates. However the update might fail on a rooted phone and you might need to unroot it. Also you need to remove rooted apps like xposed to have a successful OTA. For a smooth OTA, I would suggest you move back to stock ROM and recovery and then OTA update.
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Share the process plz... (in details)
Here is the post to flash the stock recovery and firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/official-stock-firmware-5-0-2-lxb22-46-t3019612
Make sure you back up your data before you perform the procedure. Also for being safe side, back up all the contents of your internal memory.
Good luck
If I'm rooted on 4.4.4 can I just go to about phone and update it from there and lose root? Or do I have to flash a 6 rom?
I've sort of come to the conclusion that I'd rather have an updated phone than root access at this point. But I'm not sure if I want to start from scratch and re-download all my apps and configure all the settings again.
You will probably need to unroot first. If you are using a rooted stock Rom, you might be able to then update ota. Chances are you will need to reset and wipe at some point though. I'm in the same boat, I want the MM features. However, I will not give up root. I will wait for a custom MM Rom with root or just stick with lollipop and root.