Moto X 2014 or Nexus 5x - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning to buy a new phone, I currently have a Moto g and I really happy with it, I used a Nexus 5 but I didn't like the build quality of it and I dropped it and the screen was cracked so....
I'm planning to buy a custom made 64GB Moto X for $299 or a 16GB Nexus 5x.
Is the Moto worth the money?
I really care about the speaker, the build quality and the screen-to-body ratio.

cpvm said:
I'm planning to buy a new phone, I currently have a Moto g and I really happy with it, I used a Nexus 5 but I didn't like the build quality of it and I dropped it and the screen was cracked so....
I'm planning to buy a custom made 64GB Moto X for $299 or a 16GB Nexus 5x.
Is the Moto worth the money?
I really care about the speaker, the build quality and the screen-to-body ratio.
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Personally, I would go for the Moto as the 16gb of storage on the 5x will fill up quickly. Aside from that the device runs fine to this date, has a wonderful speaker and has a good build quality in my opinion.

Kevin_Desousa said:
Personally, I would go for the Moto as the 16gb of storage on the 5x will fill up quickly. Aside from that the device runs fine to this date, has a wonderful speaker and has a good build quality in my opinion.
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Thank you, I already buy a 64GB Moto X Pure Edition.

Well, the 2014 Moto X probably won't see another (major) update after Marshmallow - assuming you have the Pure Edition. Because otherwise you won't even get that (in the US at least, not sure about other countries). Plus the 5X has a better camera and much better battery life - though I do agree it's bezels are HUGE compared to the Moto X and its build quality is probably a bit worse. The Moto features are nice though.
Storage is very important though, so you probably made the right decision.

evangilner said:
Well, the 2014 Moto X probably won't see another (major) update after Marshmallow - assuming you have the Pure Edition. Because otherwise you won't even get that (in the US at least, not sure about other countries). Plus the 5X has a better camera and much better battery life - though I do agree it's bezels are HUGE compared to the Moto X and its build quality is probably a bit worse. The Moto features are nice though.
Storage is very important though, so you probably made the right decision.
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All the Xs from "other countries" (the rest of the world) are getting 6.0.
I think the "much better battery life" on the 5x is only because of Marshmallow... Have you tried it on the X? I have and I'm consistently getting 4 h SOT at least.

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All the Xs from "other countries" (the rest of the world) are getting 6.0.
I think the "much better battery life" on the 5x is only because of Marshmallow... Have you tried it on the X? I have and I'm consistently getting 4 h SOT at least.
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I get better battery life on my moto x pure than my nexus 5x. I'm in the 4.5-5.25 SOT range with the pure. The 5x I get 3.75-4.5 sot.
But OPs sticking points all lean towards the Moto X. Speaker is no comparison. Moto x kills it. Holding the 5x and the moto x side by side it is incredibly disappointing that the bezels are so large on the 5x. With all the reviews calling it a "compact device", it is terribly unwielding. Screen sizes are out of control. 5.2" is the upper echelon of one handed usability. The moto x bezels and form factor allow it to be used semi comfortably. However the 5x feels like such a larger phone, and using the 5.2" screen feels like trying to use a 5.5" screen compared to the moto x.

I was just going off reviews and the fact that the 5x has a larger battery. And no my Moto X hasn't gotten Marshmallow so battery life isn't too great.

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Anyone leave the LG G3 to the moto X?

I've looked, but couldn't find anything. I'm just not happy with the lag of this device and since the nexus 6 is going to be way too big, I'm looking at the moto X.
I have to get the pure edition since I'm with T-Mobile, so I don't want to dish out the full price if it's not going to be a smoother experience.
Thanks for any help.
I dont know about the lag of the LG G3, but the Moto X has almost 0 lag, if any to be fair... 3 days and nothing
I do find it interesting, Considering my brother's G2 have almost 0 lag, maybe the 2K screen its a little too much ?
I think it is. The GPU is the same as most 1080p phones use and I think it can't keep up. I've even overclocked the GPU and still lag on games.
I ordered a motox 2 weeks ago to replace my Verizon g3 because there was no development. Now I still don't have the x and they unlocked the Verizon boot loader...
I have the T-Mobile G3 with the unlocked bootloader and there's not much out there. My guess, is even with bump, it's going to be a while until development takes off.
gotzaDroid said:
I've looked, but couldn't find anything. I'm just not happy with the lag of this device and since the nexus 6 is going to be way too big, I'm looking at the moto X.
I have to get the pure edition since I'm with T-Mobile, so I don't want to dish out the full price if it's not going to be a smoother experience.
Thanks for any help.
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I left the Nexus 5 for the LG3......the lag or should I say lack of Nexus smoothness and buttery transitions forced me to leave LG G3 for the new X.......
What a more pleasent experience.
Prior to selling the G3 I did a side by side.....the difference in the screen and picture quality is noticable.......but overall.....the X has beem the best Android experience ever.
Overly glad I made the choice
Yeah the g3 is a lag machine for sure. I used it like once. Ew. Has the same gpu as g2 with 2k screen. Yeah no. G2 is miles smoother(I had one) got this x and this is smoother yet!
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I left the Nexus 5 for the LG3......the lag or should I say lack of Nexus smoothness and buttery transitions forced me to leave LG G3 for the new X.......
What a more pleasent experience.
Prior to selling the G3 I did a side by side.....the difference in the screen and picture quality is noticable.......but overall.....the X has beem the best Android experience ever.
Overly glad I made the choice
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That's great to hear. I'm in your same boat, nexus 5 to G3 to now (possibly) the moto X. To hear the moto X has been your best Android experience is helping push me.
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That's great to hear. I'm in your same boat, nexus 5 to G3 to now (possibly) the moto X. To hear the moto X has been your best Android experience is helping push me.
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I came to Moto X 2014 from a Nexus 4 and my first experience with the new X was kind of disappointing due to its speed and some small lags (Nexus 4 was running perfectly smooth...). Then I changed the Android X execution from Dalvik to ART and it's now running like a supersonic jet! Try do the same in your G3 (if you didn't), maybe it works. Reducing the animations speed to .5x can also help your G3 experience.
If you go to the new X, let me say that it's Amoled display is, in my oppinion (my personal oppinion), a crap. LG and Sony displays are much better than Amoled, so be prepared!
Regards!
I had other phones in between but I now have the 2014 Moto X and had a G3. The G3 is nice, but IMO it was bulkier to hold and far more laggy than most of the other recent phones I have had. The Moto X is so much smoother and the Moto specific features, like ActiveDisplay, are far more useful. The resolution was great, but the screen wasn't really anything impressive past that. Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to screens though. Personally I have hated the LG screens all around (nexus 4, nexus 5, G3, G2). I find the colors too dull and the brightness for most of them very lackluster. The Moto X 2014 is also kinda "meh" in the brightness department, but the screen is still nice.
Brazone said:
I came to Moto X 2014 from a Nexus 4 and my first experience with the new X was kind of disappointing due to its speed and some small lags (Nexus 4 was running perfectly smooth...). Then I changed the Android X execution from Dalvik to ART and it's now running like a supersonic jet! Try do the same in your G3 (if you didn't), maybe it works. Reducing the animations speed to .5x can also help your G3 experience.
If you go to the new X, let me say that it's Amoled display is, in my oppinion (my personal oppinion), a crap. LG and Sony displays are much better than Amoled, so be prepared!
Regards!
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whoa, now I have an opposite reaction toward the Moto X. I come from the Nexus 4 as well, and the Nexus 4 was laggy a bit for me. The heating up by doing almost nothing was also a problem. The amoled display isn't that bad, but I know it ain't no Samsung screen.
I had the g3, but returned it within the 2 week period. I couldn't get over the cheap plasticky feel of the phone, it would creak when I gripped the phone, and even after root and debloat, it would occasionally stutter in the UI here and there.
replaced it with an HTC one m8 which I absolutely love - but despite the lack of stereo boomsound speakers and a microsd card slot, the moto x is better in every way. well, the camera on the m8 was actually pretty decent in low light, just as long as you didn't need to zoom or crop.
but so far, I am loving the moto x as it feels lighter, smoother and more responsive than the g3 by far, and even the m8. I love the amoled screen, the inky blacks are awesome especially at night. Feels just as premium as the m8, and way more premium the the plastic fantastic g3. especially with the leather back, it feels organic and unique.
highly recommended.
Well, I took the plunge and ordered a 32gb pure edition (I have T-Mobile). Moto says it should be here by the 22nd but I have read there are delays in the 32gb
Selling the G3 and N5 should more than offset the cost of the moto X.
I just need a fluid experience and regardless of the bells and whistles of the G3, they don't mean crap if the user experience is crap.
Thanks for all the input.
gotzaDroid said:
Well, I took the plunge and ordered a 32gb pure edition (I have T-Mobile). Moto says it should be here by the 22nd but I have read there are delays in the 32gb
Selling the G3 and N5 should more than offset the cost of the moto X.
I just need a fluid experience and regardless of the bells and whistles of the G3, they don't mean crap if the user experience is crap.
Thanks for all the input.
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My 32gb I ordered last week shipped the next day. Depends on the configuration I think.
The benchmarks also prove how laggy and slow the G3 is compared to the X. In my opinion it doesn't even closely compare to the Moto X in design, ergonomics, performance, call quality or speaker output. Might have a slight edge on display and camera quality.
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The benchmarks also prove how laggy and slow the G3 is compared to the X. In my opinion it doesn't even closely compare to the Moto X in design, ergonomics, performance, call quality or speaker output. Might have a slight edge on display and camera quality.
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More than slight.
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Some times I want to throw this thing against the wall. It was my stupid fault getting this phone (G3). My wife got one and I liked some of the features like the IR blaster and knock on/off, but I didn't take time with it to see the lagging. My N5 battery seems to be draining fast, so I got the green eyed monster and hastily went with the G3.
I just hope I won't be waiting a month for my moto X to arrive.
I sold my g3 after less than a week having it. The 801 can't drive the screen and it's laggy as hell. Love my Moto X so far and hoping for better battery with L which you know we will be one of the first to get.
I left the LG G3 Verizon and got a Custom Moto X 2014 on VZW. I went White, Gold, Brown Leather 32GB. I need root but other then that im happy. The leather could be thicker and better but. Ordered 10/7 and got 10/13.
Am i the only here who loved g3 and it's linda missing him? Got a moto X 2014, and i miss a lot of the functionalities and the câmera quality, wich i proved yesterday that is not that good on x.

Why did you get the moto x instead of the nexus 6 ?

The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the trigger on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
I went with Moto X because I wasn't sure whether the Nexus 6 was going to be 5.2" or 5.9". I figured that with the delivery and the return period that I could check out the Moto X and return it if the Nexus 6 was a 5.2" phone. I love everything about the Nexus 6, except the size. I'll be keeping the Moto X. 5.2" is almost too big, 5.9" as your only offering is just completely stupid imo. I understand that there are some people out there think that bigger is better, but I'm willing to bet that a majority aren't interested in a phone that large. Polls have shown this.
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
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The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the plug on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
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I believe you meant pull the trigger. Pulling the plug implies taking somebody off life support to kill them.
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mattjacobson said:
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
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You just nailed it! If the new nexus was 5.2", it would be competing directly with the Moto X. You chose the option best for you, and for that, you are a good cat!
Size
Seriously, Motorola has 3 new devices. They only needed one.
Moto X design language and customization. Droid Turbo hardware including screen size and resolution, Nexus 6 pure android support and the 65 GB memory size availability. Put those elements of the phones together and the single device would be better than any one of the three.
Size, phablets are a blight on society :laugh: If the Nexus 6 were <5.2 I would've considered it, although it would be tough to give up my leather back
And the fact that, while Android L will add most of these, I find that the moto additions to stock android to be extremely value add.
Size is the true factor. In hind sight I would have likely gone with the turbo.
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Size and Bamboo!
Once I started reading that the Nexus would be designed based of the X, I figured why wait and also the bamboo back is just awesome.
You do lose quick Android updates, but to be honest, this thing stock is just as good as any phone I've ever used.
I've been spoiled by CM ever since I've had an Android device, but couldn't be happier with my choice to get the Moto X.
I went with the X for the size and close to stock Android feel. That nexus 6 is just too damn big.
5.9 too much, too expensive compared to the X, dont need all that battery, too much screen on QHD
The X is all i need, enough battery and moto maker.
And yes the 805 and the 801 are pretty much the same
I went with the Moto X since I needed a new phone. With today's announcement, I'm glad I bought it. The N6, being 5.96 inches in screen size is so darn big. The price is too high. For 64gb, I would be spending probably $700. I could get a financing plan through T-Mobile but still, that's expensive. Being a tech geek though, it's still tempting
The thing n6 has is the better camera sensor, imx214. Moto X has imx115 or whatever (older). N6 has OIS also. Also, the fact n6 has a 64gb option is good. Let's not forget lte band 12
I'll wait until 64bit chips and 4gb ram phones are out. QHD will probably be the standard next year
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As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
Verizon. Need I say more.
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GatorsUF said:
As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
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You could even say that theres the Moto X 2013 for someone looking for a cheaper, smaller and still very very good flagship phone.
So you have the Moto E & Moto G for budget/entry devices, the X 2013 for cheaper and smaller flagship, the X 2014 for the new flagship device and the Nexus 6 for a phablet
After all every Motorola phone its pretty much a Nexus device
For those who want woodback for their Nexus 6, ToastMade will eventually release a woodback for it, so no worry there.
I actually was looking forward to buying the Nexus 6 as backup device for my Moto X, to use as a tablet and backup phone. At $649 I would get it as my primary device, which I will not since it's too large, but not as a backup device. So I bought a used Nexus 7 for ablet instead.
For back up phone, I think I will just get the Sprint Moto X 2013 and GSM unlock it, or a Nexus 5.
6 inch screen is way too big. Super happy with my moto x and leather back and green accents. As everyone else said, I will miss the unlocked boot loader and all that but I can live without it. Stock moto x is a great phone.
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The design of the Moto X just really appeals to me more than the Nexus 6 did, from what I could tell of the many leaks and teasers. There's something wonderfully different about having a high-tech phone with a visibly wooden back. The Nexus 6 is just another plastic device. As soon as I found out the Nexus was going to be closer to phablet size I knew it wasn't for me. Moto X is a great size for me.
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No, you don't!
Previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S 3 International, originally decided to wait to see what the next Nexus was all about.
Saw that it was a phone for whales, bought Moto X.
Speaking of which, whats this Pure edition stuff people keep mentioning about?

Thoughts from those of you who switched from a Nexus 5. Is it a good upgrade?

I have had the N5 since last November and I love the phone but it looks like Google will not be releasing a phone with this screen size anytime soon. Would like the features that the Moto X has with regards to waking the phone and a few other tweaks that they do.
I have a code from cyber Monday so it would cost $400 today, which is a great price compared to the Nexus 6 and other devices. Do I need a new phone? No, but I would like a new one to play around with for the next year until something better comes along.
The only thing it looks like I would really miss is the wireless charging.
So, for those of you who have come from the N5, was it the right choice?
Thanks
I thought it was going to be mostly a sidegrade with a couple bonus features and it ended up feeling like a reasonable UPgrade. The build is far nicer and more robust feeling, the curved glass on front that wraps around the edges feels infinetly nicer on your face. The moto display is just as awesome as I thought it would be, battery life is much better. The speaker for ringing/media is WORLDS AND WORLDS better, louder, clearer, deeper.
I think its well worth it, add to that, I sold my 5 for $260 (16GB black)
The camera is barely an improvement. Everything else is a pretty significant improvement here even though the specs dont show much, go ahead, it will be money well spent! The nexus 6 is just too big and too expensive!
I have both. The N5 is still an amazing phone but the Moto X is in a class all its own. It's a definite upgrade and well worth every penny, ESPECIALLY with the cyber Monday discount.
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I traded my wifes N5 for a Moto X 2014 and i think it is a substantial upgrade. I benchmarked it even though it is an att phone with all of the att bloat and it still did 44000 antutu, whereas my N5 best score fully rom'd and custom kernel and everything only got 41750. I know some people think benchmarks are useless, but i like seeing higher scores from phones that have better specs.
I honestly think the camera on the x is not as good. I miss hdr+ and think the ois on the nexus is better, despite being a lower mp. The moto does feel better in hand to me and i didnt know how much i would love the dimple on the back. Its great to have to stabilize the phone with one hand.
Overall, the price is right, you can sell your N5 (i sold my n5 for $250 locally), and you are more up to date with the new phones out there.
Just my opinion.
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I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I was hoping the camera would be just as good or a little better than on the N5, one person says that it is and another says it is not. Of course I know this is all subjective and I will be the only person who can determine this. I wish the camera was definitely better and not so close in quality.
Looks like I am just going to go ahead and order the Moto X, I will keep the N5 for a little bit just in case I don't like it and then I will try and sell it.
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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I honestly feel like the Nexus 5 is a bit snappier plus the camera on my Moto x doesn't seem to focus easily. I still think it's worth the upgrade though due to the build quality and the extras like active display etc. I always felt like I was going to break my nexus 5 at any moment
I remember I used to love the AMOLED display on my old Moto x but I'm having a little trouble getting used to it again. I know that's just temporary though and eventually it will be vice versa. Just some things to consider though
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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I was very torn about spending the money but made a very last minute decision to buy the moto x last night before the coupon expired. It is going to be a fairly expensive toy/experiment to play around with at first to see if I like it better than the N5, but I am looking forward to it. I figure I can sell either one to make some money back in the end.
I also decided to get it engraved with "pure X moto", I may regret this later but I liked it at the time. doh!
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If you can afford it, I'd hang on to both phones, that's what I'm doing. I feel like the N5 is going to be a highly coveted phone a couple years from now, it's easily the best Nexus phone so far (yes, even better than the N6 IMO). Plus, if you are a fan of flashing custom ROMs and the like, you'll need the N5 for that because it's highly unlikely that the X will see much development.
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
I do agree that the camera on the Moto X leaves a bit to be desired but for my needs it's just fine. I do think it is a little better than the N5's camera but not by much. Both cameras are capable of producing some really nice shots, it just seems that conditions have to be just right in order to do so.
And yeah, the screen does take some getting used to. Both my N5 and my iPhone 6 have near perfect color calibration so whenever I pick up the Moto X it always looks excessively warm to me. But I'm using CF.Lumen to fix it so mine is a LOT better now. The Moto X does have waaaay better viewing angles than the N5 though so it's a trade off.
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Very true, the Moto X is easily the snappier of the two, and is probably the snappiest phone on the market right now. The problem with the camera seems to be with the focus, especially with a foreground and a background subject or macro shots, it struggles to focus correctly. I'm still hoping Motorola to bring some sort of worthy software upgrade to the camera now that lollipop allows more control over the camera hardware. With flash though, the Moto X does seem to perform better than the N5 almost every time. Overall, it seems to be on par with the N5 or a little bit better than the N5, but yes, we all wish that the camera was a little more better!
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There is no way the N5 is snappier than the Moto X. I use both phones daily and when side by side the Moto X is noticeably faster and more responsive than the N5. I'm running stock KitKat on both devices.
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I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
I love the new moto x. Just got it a couple weeks ago to replace my 5 and it's better in every way. I've always had nexus phones and shunned away from other customised android phones but the features Motorola adds in are actually useful and have a real world use unlike all the crap on galaxy phoned.
i prefer the moto x display, but the dev is literally nonexistent.
I switched from the Nexus 5 to the Moto X 2014 because Google ended up refunding me the cost of the Nexus 5 due to a defect under warranty. I posted my thoughts about the two on another forum and updated them below after having the Moto X for a week.
Build Quality
Overall, it feels more solid than the Nexus 5, not that the Nexus 5 was a poorly made phone. Both are fine here but I would give the edge to the Moto X. I got the royal blue back, and I will say that it's more slippery than my black Nexus 5, but not as slippery as my wife's white Nexus 5. I definitely prefer the soft touch of the black Nexus 5 though, as I really feel like I need to hold on to my phone.
Screen
I'd say it's a wash. You're basically looking at a middle of the road AMOLED screen vs a middle of the road LCD, with all the benefits and issues of each. Moto X has better blacks, brighter colors, no backlight bleed (since there's no backlight). But it has slightly pink whites unless you turn the brightness up. The Nexus 5 has more pure whites and gets a little brighter, plus you won't have to worry about burn-in.
Sound
Moto X is the clear winner here. Ignoring front vs bottom firing, the Moto X speaker is much louder and clearer than the Nexus 5. Headphone quality is about the same, though the Moto X response is lacking a bit in the sub-bass frequencies. I have the Sennheiser Momentum In-Ear and the ATH-M50, and the bass lacks some impact when using my Moto X headphone jack vs the Nexus 5. The Moto X headphone output also has more noticeable hiss than the Nexus 5.
Performance
Basically the same.
Camera
I don't think either of them have a great camera... but I also don't think the Note 4 has a great camera and that was rated as one of the best cameras on a phone. They just can't compare to even a cheap point and shoot. The lack of OIS is noticeable in low light though, especially when I was trying to take pictures of my Christmas lights. Neither camera took a great photo but the Nexus 5 was more acceptable.
Software
Again, very similar here. I like some of the Motorola tweaks but I don't make frequent use of many of them. Always listening is a neat gimmick but I don't find myself using it often "in real life." Active Display isn't that much of an improvement over a notification LED in my mind, but Approach triggering it is nice. "Sleeping" mode is a nice improvement over the complete lack thereof in KitKat but Lollipop implemented "Downtime" so it's not a killer feature. Only real annoyance so far is that Moto Display constantly triggers in my car even if I disable the Approach functionality.
Battery Life
Battery life is a wash. The Moto X gets better screen on time if I am actively using it, but the Nexus 5 seems to have better idle time.
Overall
I'm not really sure which I prefer. The better loudspeaker on the Moto X is a huge upgrade, but it's unfortunate that the headphone output isn't as good. The screens are about the same, though I do like the slightly bigger size of the Moto X. It's also unfortunate that the Moto X is not using soft touch plastic for its colors, despite saying that it has a "soft finish."
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I still have my Nexus 5 and use it from time to time, there is definitely some noticeable stuttering in some apps that I've never experienced on the Nexus 5. I know certain apps are a bad comparison, the Facebook app for example, however I still have never experienced any lag, ever on the Nexus.
Nexus 5 has the stock lollipop image and my Moto was updated to lollipop immediately after powering it on. Maybe it's due to the OTA update
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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I bought the N5 on launch day last year and loved it. I got bored with it around august and went with a G3. The G3 was great at first because it was new, but as the days went on, I couldn't stand the lag and the LG skin. So my dilemma was do I wait for a nexus 6, go back to the nexus 5 or try something new?
I started seeing all this hype over the moto X and I figured, "what the hell" and I ordered it. Best damn phone I've ever owned. Yes, there are some draw backs, like the camera (it's not bad, just no where near the G3), but overall, the look, the feel, the solidness, the pure android experience with moto add-ons (not moto trying to re-invent the wheel) and battery life make this phone awesome. I get double the SOT of my N5 and the same as the G3. Moto's voice assist is great and active display is second to none.
Well worth it.
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Yeah, the N5 is completely lag and stutter free, there's no arguing that. But so is my Moto X, I've never noticed a single stutter. Maybe in FB, but it's no worse than the N5, and in my experience it's better. The N5 is a ridiculously smooth device, but side by side with my X, the X is smoother yet. One thing I find hilarious is how so many people dislike Android because it's not as smooth as the iPhone, but I own an iPhone 6 (typing on it now) and both the N5 and Moto X are actually smoother (at least in the UI) than the iPhone 6 is. It's quite remarkable, really. Both are amazing devices, and that's why I'll never sell my N5, and I'll likely hang on to my Moto X forever as well.
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You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
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You have convinced me to do a factory reset on my moto x. Sounds like I might be having some issues from the 5.0 update
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I have no experience with 5.0 on the X, but I do with the N5... I'm not a fan. That's why I'm still running KK on both devices. Lollipop has just too many issues for me.
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Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
I have the Moto X on order and now the waiting begins, I guess I should have skipped the engraving...
Got a pure edition with slate back, black front and silver metallic accents and for the engraving: pure X moto
And I also ordered the Gelli case since I was able to get 30% off accessories with the cyber Monday coupon code.

Best phone to get next? (Small)

Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:
I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...
I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)
I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.
Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
Thanks!
me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.
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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..
I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.
Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.
My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.

Moto X 2014 or Moto Play

Hey guys,
After a year of exploring Windows Phone i am coming back to android.
I just love the looks of Moto X 2014 bamboo edition and I am skeptical wether it would be a wise move, or just buy Moto Play.
The size and the bamboo, just make me love this phone, buy would you say is a good buy or just buy the Play which should be better in many aspects, although no bamboo and bigger size, that I don't like.
I have both. Honestly it's a hard call for me. Bouncing back and forth between devices, they both have their strong points. If size is your concern, then go with the 2014. Battery? XPlay. Premium feel? 2014. Camera? XPlay. Speed? They are around the same, though the XPlay has micro lags time to time. Expansion? XPlay. IR sensors? 2014. In some regards, the 3rd generation G performs better than the XPlay. Really it all boils down to what your explicit needs are.
Ok thanks. Do you really feel that camera improved that much?
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Ok thanks. Do you really feel that camera improved that much?
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Low light it still isn't as good as the g4, and s6, but overall, I find it worlds better. I'm not doing anything crazy, but overall I find it to be a marked improvement over the 2014.
The phone overall doesn't have that same feel of speed, but I'm not sure if that's something that will be fixed with kernel optimizations. Why exactly is it that you want a Moto device vs from another manufacturer?
great thanks,
i always liked Moto, from my Moto MIlestone.
LG: i tried LG G2 but i had a horrible experience with their customer service and sold all devices i had at home (tv, soundbar etc). Samsung and Sony, i dont like their interface. Huawei, i hate their interface. I love Stock Android, but Nexus is way too big...
This is my story, and that is why i tried Windows for about a year now, cause i wanted someting different...
Fekish said:
Hey guys,
After a year of exploring Windows Phone i am coming back to android.
I just love the looks of Moto X 2014 bamboo edition and I am skeptical wether it would be a wise move, or just buy Moto Play.
The size and the bamboo, just make me love this phone, buy would you say is a good buy or just buy the Play which should be better in many aspects, although no bamboo and bigger size, that I don't like.
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Hi,
I tested both and ended sending back the play and keeping the x 2014, here are the reasons:
- got the x 2014 32 gb on an amazon deal for 299 euros against the 350 for the play
- the play was just too big for me, 5,2 inches is the biggest I can deal with
- the play's buttons felt way too cheap, they were loose and rattled all the time, for me that was not acceptable
- the play hasn't got gyroscope (no photosphere pictures) or IR sensors, and waving at the phone to turn it on is really comfortable
- the x 2014 feels much sturdier
- the x 2014 is snappier, I could notice the microlags on the play
Battery life is much better on the play, but now I carry an external battery with me just in case. The camera is also better, but the one from the x 2014 isn't that bad. The play has a SD card slot but 32 GB is enough for my use. The play display is fine, but so is the x 2014's.
If storage, battery life and camera is important for you and you are OK with the size go for the play.
So there it is, hope it helped!
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so after playing with both phones, i am feeling that Moto X Play is way to big for me, and i dont feel that i have a special phone in my hand, whereas i had this feeling with Moto X 2014.
i just wish there was a phone like Moto X 2014 out there in the market, with a better camera, external sd card, and slightly better battery.
Now i am searching for another brand, and maybe i will leave Motorola because of this.
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so after playing with both phones, i am feeling that Moto X Play is way to big for me, and i dont feel that i have a special phone in my hand, whereas i had this feeling with Moto X 2014.
i just wish there was a phone like Moto X 2014 out there in the market, with a better camera, external sd card, and slightly better battery.
Now i am searching for another brand, and maybe i will leave Motorola because of this.
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HTC One m8 or M9.
In terms of speed, HTC M8 and Moto X are tie as far as I can tell. HTC One M8 is way prettier than Moto and feels better in hand than moto.
So I would say M8 > Moto X 2014.
M9 is almost identical to m8 except chips and camera.
Lots of people say M9> M8 . But considering the price, I love m8 better.
From my hands on experience with all major Android phones, the overall best one in 2014 is M8.
2015 best phone hands down to S6/S6 edge. It blows everything else away. And yes, the new touchwiz is NOT slow at all.

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